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Pugnax555 04-22-09, 09:53 AM It looks like Warner Bros has finally launched a HD DVD to Blu-ray trade in program (red2blu.com (http://red2blu.com/)).
For $4.95 per title (+ $6.95 shipping per order, up to a total of 25 discs), you can upgrade your WB HD DVDs to Blu-ray copies. All you need to do is send in the cover art from your HD DVD discs.
So basically, you get to keep the red discs (minus covers), and step up to Blu. I have 9 WB titles, so the total cost to upgrade for me is $52. Not particularly bad at all.
EDIT: WB will also send you a $15 off $50 purchase coupon when you do this.
It looks like Warner Bros has finally launched a HD DVD to Blu-ray trade in program (red2blu.com (http://red2blu.com/)).
For $4.95 per title (+ $6.95 shipping), you can upgrade your WB HD DVDs to Blu-ray copies. All you need to do is send in the cover art from your HD DVD discs.
So basically, you get to keep the red discs (minus covers), and step up to Blu. I have 9 WB titles, so the total cost to upgrade for me is $52. Not particularly bad at all.
Meh.
While certainly a nice gesture, many of the WB titles are available for even less than $4.95, and with shipping that's quite a bit less than $6.95...unless that $6.95 would be for ALL discs they'd send out in an order, which would seem unlikely.
If anyone has done this, let us know what the $6.95 shipping really covers.
Doug Schiller 04-22-09, 10:10 AM I wonder if they send you the super fancy Casablanca Blu-Ray or just the disc?
Does anyone have a list of the WB Blu-Rays that are superior to the HD DVDs?
Earlier release HDDVDs were superior to their BluRay counterparts (the Superman movies, 300, etc.)
I have a bunch of these but I won't upgrade unless their is a reason.
For instance, the Sopranos set is exactly the same.
It might be worth it for future proofing, but I'm not sure.
Ultimate Matrix has some extras in HD that weren't on the HD DVD version.
kdssrugby 04-22-09, 10:29 AM What annoys me is that this program is only open to residents of the united states and not Canada. I tied placing my order and got to the billing form and it only accepts American addresses and credit cards (says the same in the rules in fine print). Anyone willing to help me out?
JBlacklow 04-22-09, 10:29 AM Meh.
While certainly a nice gesture, many of the WB titles are available for even less than $4.95, and with shipping that's quite a bit less than $6.95...unless that $6.95 would be for ALL discs they'd send out in an order, which would seem unlikely.
If anyone has done this, let us know what the $6.95 shipping really covers.According to the original thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1141128), the $6.95 is for all discs, not a per-disc basis.I wonder if they send you the super fancy Casablanca Blu-Ray or just the disc?Again, the above thread mentions you get the UCE version of Casablanca.
Does anyone have a list of the WB Blu-Rays that are superior to the HD DVDs?Off the top of my head:
The Matrix
Ultimate Matrix collection
Casablanca
I Am Legend (I think)
The Perfect Storm
Earlier release HDDVDs were superior to their BluRay counterparts (the Superman movies, 300, etc.)
I have a bunch of these but I won't upgrade unless their is a reasonActually, the original Superman movies had the exact same specs on both formats. Superman Returns Blu-rays now come with PCM/TrueHD tracks like the HD DVD. 300 is IIRC the same AV specs, no IME.
Does anyone have a list of the WB Blu-Rays that are superior to the HD DVDs?
Off the top of my head:
The Matrix
Ultimate Matrix collection
Casablanca
I Am Legend (I think)
The Perfect Storm
I thought the complaint was that the Matrix used the same encode as the HD DVD. I never understood the complaint because to this day, I think it's one of the better titles available. In fact, I think the third movie on BD had some macro-blocking issues that the HD DVD didn't have due to some damaged files on storage, or something like that...the time stamps people provided I checked out on the HD DVD, and didn't see the problem that was so evident on BD.
Someone correct me if WB fixed that problem, or if I misunderstood.
wallst32 04-22-09, 11:05 AM Does anyone know if they'll send you a complete retail package? Or might they tear out the UPC or try to mark it? I'm not looking to try and store return or resell the items, but I don't want to have "vandalized" items sitting in my collection either.
RodChester 04-22-09, 11:11 AM I have about 16 or so titles that I wouldn't mind trading in for the Blu-ray. The price isn't too bad either especially if you just print out new covers for the HD-DVDs and sell them on ebay. Could turn out to cost only a couple of bucks per disc.
dad1153 04-22-09, 11:21 AM I'm a diehard HD-DVD fan (but also purple in my high-def purchases) and I think this is a great idea for (a) people that want as many titles in their high-def media collection in one format and (b) high-def media consumers reluctantly owning a handful of HD-DVD's (as gifts, burned purchase during 'the war,' etc.) that (c) don't want to blow a small fortune upgrading to Blu-ray copies that offer no visible/audible upgrade from HD-DVD. Only my "Harry Potter" HD-DVD's tempt me for a trade-up to BD (since the series will continue there) but not most of my other Warner titles. Besides, if red cases in your blue case bother you then the problem won't go away until Universal, Paramount and the other studios implement a similar trade program. Maybe Warner's is a test program to see if enough HD-DVD media owners trade to Blu for the other studios to justify the expense of a similar program.
user4avsforum 04-22-09, 11:27 AM For $4.95 per title (+ $6.95 shipping)
$12 per disk? Err... that should be the average retail price of a BD, not the "trade in price".
cnickersonjr 04-22-09, 11:28 AM The price isn't too bad either especially if you just print out new covers for the HD-DVDs and sell them on ebay. Could turn out to cost only a couple of bucks per disc.
Have you checked the completed listing on Ebay for HD-DVD's? Not getting a lot of bids these days!
cnickersonjr 04-22-09, 11:29 AM $12 per disk? Err... that should be the average retail price of a BD, not the "trade in price".
The shipping is per order folks!
J Brinkley 04-22-09, 11:30 AM Very interesting, thanks for posting the link. I don't think I'd do this for every title, but in the case of Harry Potter, where some will end up being blu with the older ones red, I'd like to make the swap for consistency across the set.
For the rest, there's absolutely no reason that I can't simply fire up the hd-dvd player to watch discs in the rare times I'll revisit those movies.
BZiggyZ 04-22-09, 11:34 AM No Complete Matrix Trilogy? Boo. Is WB planning on releasing Reloaded and Revolutions individually?
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 11:37 AM No Complete Matrix Trilogy? Boo. Is WB planning on releasing Reloaded and Revolutions individually?
It's $15 to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix Collection. And it looks like you only send in the paper that's glued to the back of the package for that one.
RodChester 04-22-09, 11:38 AM Have you checked the completed listing on Ebay for HD-DVD's? Not getting a lot of bids these days!
True it may not be much, but what else are you gonna do with all those HD-DVDs once you have the Blu Ray copies?
BZiggyZ 04-22-09, 11:39 AM Nah, I'm talking about just the trilogy set, not the 7 disc Ultimate box.
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 11:40 AM Nah, I talking about just the trilogy set, not the 7 disc Ultimate box.
Ahh, gotcha. Maybe give them a call and see what they say. I'm gonna call them about Full Metal Jacket to see what they say. I have the crappy original version of that, not the deluxe edition re-release.
cnickersonjr 04-22-09, 11:56 AM True it may not be much, but what else are you gonna do with all those HD-DVDs once you have the Blu Ray copies?
I'm keeping my copies! I'm fine with having both HD-DVD & Blu-ray in my HT. To each his own.
You already have the player and the movies! No need to trade, what do you gain?
lemming75 04-22-09, 12:09 PM I called about the program and learned the following:
They launched the program the 1st of April.
You will get a new complete package. (case, disc and art in blu)
Its unknown whether the UPC code will be vandalized or not.
Takes about a month to get your new discs.
They are still trying to account for all the various titles. I asked about the Matrix (Complete and Ultimate.) and they said they would contact me back.
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 12:11 PM I'm keeping my copies! I'm fine with having both HD-DVD & Blu-ray in my HT. To each his own.
You already have the player and the movies! No need to trade, what do you gain?
For me I would gain better sound by upgrading. My hd-dvd player is an hd-a3 which cannot output the lossless audio formats like Dolby trueHD. My Samsung BD-P1500 can and this is the audio that all the Harry Potter movies have and I would like to be able to hear it. I will probably be upgrading the Potter movies.
tripleM 04-22-09, 12:16 PM For me I would gain better sound by upgrading. My hd-dvd player is an hd-a3 which cannot output the lossless audio formats like Dolby trueHD. My Samsung BD-P1500 can and this is the audio that all the Harry Potter movies have and I would like to be able to hear it. I will probably be upgrading the Potter movies.
Doesn't the A3 do PCM which is lossless no?
cnickersonjr 04-22-09, 12:16 PM For me I would gain better sound by upgrading. My hd-dvd player is an hd-a3 which cannot output the lossless audio formats like Dolby trueHD. My Samsung BD-P1500 can and this is the audio that all the Harry Potter movies have and I would like to be able to hear it. I will probably be upgrading the Potter movies.
Good point! I didn't think about that. Well it is a good deal after all for some.
I have the A-35 & PS3. Also in some cases the audio quality on the blu-ray discs, I have, is lower than the hd-dvd. Ex. Happy Feet HD-DVD has TrueHD and Blu-ray has Dolby Digital 5.1.
kdssrugby 04-22-09, 12:19 PM I have the Harry Potter 1-5 collection but they have custom cases without slipcovers, would I have to send those in?
shadowrage 04-22-09, 12:19 PM I wonder if they send you the super fancy Casablanca Blu-Ray or just the disc?
My ticket from them says Ultimate Edition. And WBshop doesn't have any other version up. I already sent in my cover. Guess I'll find out $10 for the HDDVD + $11 upgrade/shipping is pretty good for a gift set.
cobolisdead 04-22-09, 12:23 PM Since they closed this topic in the other forum, let me repost this here:
So what do you send back to Warner to switch out the HP boxset? There wasn't any cover art for that, just a thing that wrapped around the chest, and I might have thrown away a few months ago.
cnickersonjr 04-22-09, 12:26 PM Since they closed this topic in the other forum, let me repost this here:
So what do you send back to Warner to switch out the HP boxset? There wasn't any cover art for that, just a thing that wrapped around the chest, and I might have thrown away a few months ago.
You would have to submit the "Year One" Case! NOT INCLUDING THE DISC!!
F.Y.I. that trade is $15! Go to the link from the original post.
gschrock 04-22-09, 12:32 PM Have to admit, I am kinda tempted to do it for the Harry Potter set at least. I'm not sure I own any of the others besides Phantom of the Opera, and not sure I'm going to do it for that (although if I'm already paying for the shipping to do the HP set, I might just throw that one in too).
cobolisdead 04-22-09, 12:39 PM You would have to submit the "Year One" Case! NOT INCLUDING THE DISC!!
F.Y.I. that trade is $15! Go to the link from the original post.
Cool. that would work for me.
AmishFury 04-22-09, 12:53 PM i might do this for casablanca and a few others... think about it this way... you still have the discs
print a new cover and sell it
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 12:53 PM Doesn't the A3 do PCM which is lossless no?
No. It converts the 640 kbps DD audio to PCM and DTS MA core at 1.5 mbps to 640 kbps PCM. It cannot do lossless audio.
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 01:22 PM No. It converts the 640 kbps DD audio to PCM and DTS MA core at 1.5 mbps to 640 kbps PCM. It cannot do lossless audio.
Incorrect. The A3 decodes the TrueHD soundtrack to PCM. However, it does not decode DTS-HD MA, it only uses the core DTS soundtrack.
It's $15 to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix Collection. And it looks like you only send in the paper that's glued to the back of the package for that one.
I rarely keep those boxes. And if I had I would have probably removed the sticker anyway. Any way around that. I would definitely like to upgrade that and Harry Potter to Blu.
Tom
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 02:00 PM Incorrect. The A3 decodes the TrueHD soundtrack to PCM. However, it does not decode DTS-HD MA, it only uses the core DTS soundtrack.
Woohoo. Looks like you are correct. I was under the impression that it couldn't do lossless at all. Great news. Now I'm not sure I will doing any exchanges at all.
JaylisJayP 04-22-09, 02:08 PM Do any of the Warner blu-rays even ugrade the audio? If not, I'm keeping mine. I still have an HD DVD player and enjoy it quite a bit. Not worth it.
Darknight 04-22-09, 02:08 PM Anyone know if you can trade in the copy of 300 that came free packed in with the Toshiba A3? It doesn't have a UPC code on it so I'm not sure how they'll handle it. Also damn I almost checked out with the Ultimate Matrix Collection checked off butthen realized there was a difference between the Matrix Complete Trilogy box set and the Ultimate. Wonder what would have happened if they received that slip instead.
jrcbandit 04-22-09, 02:12 PM This sounds like a good deal if you order a number of discs, especially for the Harry Potter giftset. Plus, I only have the xbox 360 HD-DVD player which doesn't do lossless audio.
Anyway, I was wondering about the quality of Blu-rays vs HD-DVD for some of the discs. Are Planet Earth, Superman Returns, and 300 all good on Blu-ray? However, I am not sure if I want to bother with Superman Returns since the movie was blah... Also, I think a special edition of 300 is rumored to be released on Blu-ray soon? I might just transfer over Batman Begins, Harry Potter gift set, and Planet Earth.
One disc that was odd was Blade Runner - why is the upgrade $15 when you can buy the Blu-ray disc for $25 off Amazon.
Finally, I would love to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix collection, but the deal sounds like you need to have kept the flimsy piece of paper that was attached to the boxset via a small thing of puddy.... Who actually keeps such pieces of paper? ;p I always throw those away - it just sounds like Warner doesn't want to trade in that release...
dad1153 04-22-09, 02:17 PM Finally, I would love to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix collection, but the deal sounds like you need to have kept the flimsy piece of paper that was attached to the boxset via a small thing of puddy.... Who actually keeps such pieces of paper? ;p
I did! :D
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 02:21 PM This sounds like a good deal if you order a number of discs, especially for the Harry Potter giftset. Plus, I only have the xbox 360 HD-DVD player which doesn't do lossless audio.
Anyway, I was wondering about the quality of Blu-rays vs HD-DVD for some of the discs. Are Planet Earth, Superman Returns, and 300 all good on Blu-ray? However, I am not sure if I want to bother with Superman Returns since the movie was blah... Also, I think a special edition of 300 is rumored to be released on Blu-ray soon? I might just transfer over Batman Begins, Harry Potter gift set, and Planet Earth.
One disc that was odd was Blade Runner - why is the upgrade $15 when you can buy the Blu-ray disc for $25 off Amazon.
Finally, I would love to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix collection, but the deal sounds like you need to have kept the flimsy piece of paper that was attached to the boxset via a small thing of puddy.... Who actually keeps such pieces of paper? ;p I always throw those away - it just sounds like Warner doesn't want to trade in that release...
Me too!:D I always keep everything so that if I decide to sell it later I get the most money possible. Keep in mind that you get to keep the discs so If you have to spend $15 to exchange, it might still be worth it. I'm keeping my copy of Blade Runner as I have the Briefcase version and have no desire to sell it. I wonder if they would exchange it for the Blu-ray version.:) I would probably do that as the Blu version is getting much more on Amazon and E-bay.
sharkcohen 04-22-09, 02:23 PM I guess this would make sense if my HD DVD player died, but outside of that I'm not sure why I would give Warner even more money for titles I already own.
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 02:26 PM I guess this would make sense if my HD DVD player died, but outside of that I'm not sure why I would give Warner even more money for titles I already own.
Agreed. I will only exchange if the Blu-ray offers something that the Hd-dvd didn't.
Fightsong22 04-22-09, 02:27 PM I just ordered 15 movies from that site and in the email order confirmation right next to the Superman Returns order (Superman Returns (BD) (TrueHD Audio). Now I can't wait to send off my movies.
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 02:30 PM I wonder what Warner is going to do with all those returned Hd-dvd's?
sharkcohen 04-22-09, 02:33 PM Agreed. I will only exchange if the Blu-ray offers something that the Hd-dvd didn't.
For some people there will be an audio upgrade on some titles that they will take advantage of. Personally, I'm not convinced that I hear a difference between lossy and lossless tracks on my system.
trent82 04-22-09, 02:34 PM blah, i already re-purchased all of my warner titles...
3 kubrick movies, 4 harry potter, the matrix set, blade runner, v for vendetta, training day, good night, and good luck, million dollar baby, and maybe a few others.
the only hd-dvds that i have left are all from universal because they are taking a ridiculously long time to release their blu-ray catalog titles.
xradman 04-22-09, 02:36 PM I did 36 titles (including Matrix boxset, Ocean's Boxset, HP set, That's Entertainment Boxset) for $167. Not bad at all. Now what to do with all the coverless HD DVDs?:)
I wonder what Warner is going to do with all those returned Hd-dvd's?
You just need to send the covers, not the discs.
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 02:36 PM I wonder what Warner is going to do with all those returned Hd-dvd's?
Absolutely nothing because you get to keep the HD DVDs. They only want the paper sleeve as proof of purchase.
Brajesh 04-22-09, 02:39 PM I did 36 titles
The site says the limit is 25 titles.
MOrlando 04-22-09, 02:43 PM I contacted customer support about the Complete Matrix trilogy. I spoke with a Melissa, and she told me that they would not take the Complete box set. Just a heads up.
Finally, I would love to upgrade the Ultimate Matrix collection, but the deal sounds like you need to have kept the flimsy piece of paper that was attached to the boxset via a small thing of puddy.... Who actually keeps such pieces of paper? ;p I always throw those away - it just sounds like Warner doesn't want to trade in that release...
Found this on their website in a rules PDF
Collections: You may also order select Blu-ray collections. For payment of the
corresponding price (click here for a list of “Participating Collections” and
corresponding prices), plus $6.95 shipping & handling (or $8.95 in the case of
shipping and handling to Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico), plus taxes, you may
choose to obtain a Participating Collection on Blu-ray in exchange for providing
to Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Inc. each original HD DVD artwork
packaging sleeve (i.e., each individual sleeve in the Collection) of the same
Participating Collection.
EDIT::
But the special instructions on the website say to submit the paper glued to the back....
I'll be royally pissed if they deny box set owners the trade in over a piece of paper that most considered trash.
xradman 04-22-09, 02:47 PM The site says the limit is 25 titles.
25 titles count boxset as 1 title. But by my count,
HP set has 5 titles.
Matrix set has 4 titles.
Ocean's set has 3 titles.
That's Entertainment set has 3 titles.
Beerstalker 04-22-09, 02:48 PM I just submitted my order for 8 movies, my total was $48.41 including tax and shipping. Now if we can only convince Universal and Paramount to offer a similar program I'll be able to sell off both my HD-DVD players and all the movies.
giantchicken 04-22-09, 02:52 PM This is great news! I am going to take advantage of this for sure--and as others have said, let's hope Universal is listening...
I just wish that Terminator 3 would have been included. I was looking at my HD DVD just the other day.
(I already replaced the Potter set and the Matrix set, but didn't throw out the old versions. It think I will trade in for the two Blu boxed sets and stick them on eBay. Might even come close to breaking even for my entire red to blue swap.)
dlbsyst 04-22-09, 02:54 PM You just need to send the covers, not the discs.
That's right. I don't know what I was thinking.:o
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 02:54 PM I just submitted my order for 8 movies, my total was $48.41 including tax and shipping. Now if we can only convince Universal and Paramount to offer a similar program I'll be able to sell off both my HD-DVD players and all the movies.
I think it'll be quite a while before Universal ports over the rest of their titles. I remember reading somewhere that some movies like Lost in Translation and Fear and Loathing only sold a few thousand copies on HD DVD. If those are the types of numbers they have to look forward to with the BD releases, I can understand why porting them over would be a low priority for them.
I wish they would send back my covers once they are processed. I am going to scan all my covers before I send them and then print copies.
RockyMountainD 04-22-09, 03:00 PM ...I think this is a great idea for...(b) high-def media consumers reluctantly owning a handful of HD-DVD's (as gifts, burned purchase during 'the war,' etc.)...
That's me. Got 8 free discs with my A3, bought Planet Earth and someone gave me Polar Express. The A3 is now in the bedroom.
Looks like 6 discs for under $44, including Planet Earth. More goodies for my S550!
Isn't there a thread comparing all of the titles? I would definitely upgrade any titles that are better on Blu-Ray.
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 03:19 PM Isn't there a thread comparing all of the titles? I would definitely upgrade any titles that are better on Blu-Ray.
Almost all of the titles that WB released on both formats feature identical video encodes and comparable/equivalent audio (for instance, the Kubrick's use PCM on BD and TrueHD on the HD DVDs). There were a few movies that had slightly different features (like the PIP/IME on the HD DVD of 300), but for the most part the trade-ins will be format swaps with identical content.
giantchicken 04-22-09, 03:30 PM Some of these will actually be a downgrade in audio from Dolby Digital Plus to Dolby Digital, and some will lose special features like the PIP commentaries (green screen version of 300). But for me, it will still be nice to have these movies on Blu-ray--especially considering that I won't be sending back the HD DVDs.
Smarty-pants 04-22-09, 03:36 PM Some of these will actually be a downgrade in audio from Dolby Digital Plus to Dolby Digital...
Like what? I thought all of the audio downgrades were primarily Paramount titles. What WB titles are a downgrade in audio from red->blu? :confused:
JBlacklow 04-22-09, 03:41 PM Some of these will actually be a downgrade in audio from Dolby Digital Plus to Dolby DigitalDoubtful. The reason DD+ was needed on the HD DVDs was to reach higher bitrates (due to the reuse of DVD specs) that Blu-ray could reach with DD. Unless any of the DD+ tracks used bitrates higher than 640kbps as Paramount did (and from what I can see they don't), it's the same track and not a downgrade.
giantchicken 04-22-09, 03:51 PM Well, then that's good news. I remember early titles like Training Day having a DD+ track. But if the bitrate is higher on the Blu-ray then I have nothing to worry about.
I'm also glad to be getting the TrueHD version of Superman Returns! Almost paid $25 for it just this week, and $5 sounds a lot better. Glad I waited.
TCARCIO 04-22-09, 04:04 PM Dumb idea, By the time my HD dvd players die,if they do, I will be able to buy the BD version in the 5 dollar bin anyway. Maybe if they would trade straight up disc for disc but to give them a movie I already have to get the same movie back and then pay them a fee????? DUMB..........
Stinky-Dinkins 04-22-09, 04:12 PM How long does it take them to send you the email? Is it nearly instant?
I think I might have F'ed up when I typed my email address in, hoping I didn't.
Dumb idea, By the time my HD dvd players die,if they do, I will be able to buy the BD version in the 5 dollar bin anyway. Maybe if they would trade straight up disc for disc but to give them a movie I already have to get the same movie back and then pay them a fee????? DUMB..........
You don't give them your HD-DVD's, you give them them the case insert.
You keep all your HD-DVD's.
Agreed. I will only exchange if the Blu-ray offers something that the Hd-dvd didn't.
Same here and besides I want to keep a few war momentos around for "old time sakes."
How long does it take them to send you the email? Is it nearly instant?
I think I might have F'ed up when I typed my email address in, hoping I didn't.
I thought the same thing - it just took a little while to come in.
Finch106 04-22-09, 04:33 PM You're not losing the disks, I don't understand why some of you are so adamant about keeping the hddvds when you're not getting rid of them to begin with. The only reason I'm doing this is because I don't want my series' split between formats, like the HPs and Nip/Tuck series. Besides, HP GOF hddvds functionality was much better than the bluray version, and I'll still have the hddvd, so its a win win for me.
txfilmguy 04-22-09, 04:46 PM Meh.
While certainly a nice gesture, many of the WB titles are available for even less than $4.95, and with shipping that's quite a bit less than $6.95...unless that $6.95 would be for ALL discs they'd send out in an order, which would seem unlikely.
If anyone has done this, let us know what the $6.95 shipping really covers.
6.95 covers all discs which will ship together.
haha thanks for the delay Warner. Makes me feel like a sucker for selling off all my discs during Christmas to buy some of the same ones on Blu-ray. (I don't have the shelf space for both players, nor the patience) Oh well..can't win them all.
txfilmguy 04-22-09, 04:57 PM How long does it take them to send you the email? Is it nearly instant?
I think I might have F'ed up when I typed my email address in, hoping I didn't.
You don't give them your HD-DVD's, you give them them the case insert.
You keep all your HD-DVD's.
Nah, I think you did it correctly. I signed up this morning and I'm still waiting for my email as well.
This is a pretty sweet idea although I wish they had it available in Canada. Looks like I either wait to see if they offer it here or mail the covers to a couple of my buddies living below.
I'll just give my HD-DVDs to a co-worker.
Kudos to Warner for this. Anyone who trashes them for this is nuts since they could do nothing or ask you send the discs in.
lemming75 04-22-09, 05:25 PM Anyone know if you can trade in the copy of 300 that came free packed in with the Toshiba A3? It doesn't have a UPC code on it so I'm not sure how they'll handle it. Also damn I almost checked out with the Ultimate Matrix Collection checked off butthen realized there was a difference between the Matrix Complete Trilogy box set and the Ultimate. Wonder what would have happened if they received that slip instead.
No: (300) It has to have UPC code. You can send either Complete or Ultimate Matrix. There is no difference in price!
I'm keeping my copies! I'm fine with having both HD-DVD & Blu-ray in my HT. To each his own.
You already have the player and the movies! No need to trade, what do you gain?
In my case, I'm trying to simplify my set up which means getting rid of my XA2. I only have 6 HDDVDs that I would replace with Bluray versions (9 if I can get the individual Matrix series swapped) as I usually bought blu if there was a choice. If Universal and Paramount get in on this, I'll replace them all - minus a few dogs :D
HDphile22 04-22-09, 05:42 PM WOW Awesome Can I upgrade the Matrix HD DVD Trilogy to Blu, as well?
kdssrugby 04-22-09, 05:46 PM I just got off the line with the Red2Blu support and here's what I found out:
1. It would seem that quite a few people have contacted them about missing back covers for the Ultimate Matrix Set and will release a statement in the next little while about whether there will be another way to send it in.
2. This program is basically a trial and there is a possibility that if it is successful it might be expanded later (possibly to Canada).
rolltide1017 04-22-09, 05:46 PM Does the Blu-Ray version of "Phantom of the Opera" have the same audio problem that the HD-DVD has (audio encoded really low on the HD-DVD)?
Also, anyone know when this might end or if it will end? I have 14 disc I'd love to trade but need to wait until I have the cash.
budeone 04-22-09, 05:49 PM I think it is a great deal and im going to order mine today. :D:D
I only had a few HD-DVDs and bought most Warner titles on Blu to begin with, but this was a great way for me to get Casablanca on Blu for cheap :)
Now if only Universal would set up a similar program so I could get similarly cheap Blu copies of the Bourne trilogy...
JudgeSmails 04-22-09, 06:16 PM I just got off the line with the Red2Blu support and here's what I found out:
1. It would seem that quite a few people have contacted them about missing back covers for the Ultimate Matrix Set and will release a statement in the next little while about whether there will be another way to send it in.
I went ahead and took my chances. Like most normal people (I kid, I kid :) I trashed the little piece of glued on paper. I went ahead and sent in my four Matrix disc cover-arts with a nice little note saying I didn't have the paper. We'll see what happens. I'll either get the BR or I'll get my money back.
I think this is a great program for them and us. While I LOVE my HD-DVD player getting a chance to swap my media for the most current format out there is a win-win.
I ended up just getting 4 titles out of about 25 that I have. I'm exchanging Blade Runner, Ultimate Matrix, Batman Begins, and A Clockwork Orange. The rest I decided to take my chance that my 2 HD-DVD players will last long enough to make not doing the exchange worth it. Plus, a lot of those titles are movies that I may never even watch again (I got them cheap as closeouts when HD-DVD died).
I went ahead and took my chances. Like most normal people (I kid, I kid :) I trashed the little piece of glued on paper. I went ahead and sent in my four Matrix disc cover-arts with a nice little note saying I didn't have the paper.
I didn't have the little piece of paper either. But I was only going to send the inserts in from the 3 HD-DVD's. The Disc 4, 2-disc set is just a standard DVD. Maybe I should do what you're doing, and send all 4 and a note stating that these are from the Ultimate Collection.
I talked with there support also. The guy said the following:
They are getting lots of calls and positive feedback about the offer
The offer will most likely be good until december so there is no rush
They will be updating the ultimate matrix special instructions because no one has the piece of paper
They will be updating the Oceans 11 box set instructions since the instructions mention a upc code which does not exist
He also said they are adding more titles to the site
He mentioned that they will not be sending the hd-dvd cover art back to you
You will get a brand new shrink wrapped copy of the Blu-Ray
They are doing this to boost Blu-Ray player sales
Stinky-Dinkins 04-22-09, 06:40 PM He mentioned that they will not be sending the hd-dvd cover art back to you
Figured they wouldn't otherwise people would probably try to send it back multiple times to resell the BluRay's.
HDphile22 04-22-09, 07:04 PM Put a list which Blu-ray is BETTER than the HD DVD, please.
giantchicken 04-22-09, 07:10 PM How long does it take them to send you the email? Is it nearly instant?
I think I might have F'ed up when I typed my email address in, hoping I didn't.
Check your spam folder, that's where mine was. Came within about ten or fifteen minutes.
The site says the limit is 25 titles.
He traded some box sets, which have multiple movies... Harry Potter set = 5 movies, for example, but counts as 1 trade-in!
I'm working on a list of mine... probably won't just upgrade everything (have a few titles that I'm ok with)... but my favorites like Batman Begins and a few others... definitely.
I'm going to call too and ask about the Matrix as I have the "Complete" and not the "Ultimate" set... so not sure what they are going to offer on that one.
Matt_Stevens 04-22-09, 07:14 PM Interesting. I'm going to check this out and see what I can do.
Did Warner fix the out of sync sound for the first MATRIX film for BD? I cannot do lossless with BD (yet) and unfortunately, the HD-DVD lossy track had sound sync issues with numerous players, including mine.
Here's hoping Universal does the same. I have tons of their releases.
This is certainly a nice gesture from Warner, but I'll hang on to my HD DVDs. Since I greatly prefer the performance of my PS3 over that of my HD-A2, I generally only bought the HD DVD versions if they were better than the Blu-ray counterparts anyway. The only exceptions would be Casablanca and Batman Begins; one I got for free and the other has already been replaced, so I won't bother paying $12 just to get the identical BD.
Now if, say, Universal were to do something similar, I'd be tempted to trade up the Bourne flicks and the other releases they didn't bungle with DNR on Blu-ray.
Pugnax555 04-22-09, 07:23 PM This is certainly a nice gesture from Warner, but I'll hang on to my HD DVDs.
I'm not sure how many times this needs to be stated, but you get to keep your HD DVDs even if you do take advantage of this offer.
I spoke with a nice woman named Maurine when I just called and got clarification on something I've seen discussed in different forums
-Ultimate Matrix: I luckily have my glue on piece of paper, and that is all you need to submit in order to get the set (i.e. you don't need to send in all of the coverart's from the set, I didn't think that was the case, but some on here thinking this was the case, so i wanted to clarify)
-Oceans 11/12/13: They only want the slip cover that goes over the cardboard, not the cardboard holder... this is because the slip is what has the UPC.
-They have got MANY complaints about the paper for the Ultimate Matrix trilogy and have forwarded the concerns to management (I for one love how it is right now, because I can finally get rid of that paper and leave my whole set in tact, but i understand how folks aren't happy if they scraped it long ago)
So far, i'm pretty pumped about this. Looking to replace my box sets and a few HD's (Batman Begins, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and a couple other combo discs)
gorthocar 04-22-09, 07:30 PM Forbidden Planet isn't available on BD yet and doesn't appear to be a part of the program. (Yes, I do own the basic version of it on HD DVD, not the Ultimate Collector's Edition.)
At least I can get the upgraded version of Casablanca.
I'm not sure how many times this needs to be stated, but you get to keep your HD DVDs even if you do take advantage of this offer.
:o I'm sorry, I knew that. My wording was poor. My point was that I would have no use for a second copy that isn't even as good as the one I already own.
Stinky-Dinkins 04-22-09, 07:35 PM WHat ones aren't as good?
Not meant to be sarcastic, I'm asking because I don't need to get copies of something that aren't at least identical in video quality to ones I already own? How many "aren't as good," which ones are they? If there are some that aren't as good I won't bother to get a worse copy.
I figured they were all at least identical.
WHat ones aren't as good?
Not meant to be sarcastic, I'm asking because I don't need to get copies of something that aren't at least identical in video quality to ones I already own? How many "aren't as good," which ones are they? If there are some that aren't as good I won't bother to get a worse copy.
I figured they were all at least identical.
Most of them are identical, but some movies like 300 and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire had exclusive Picture-in-Picture features that weren't carried over to the Blu-ray versions. There were also some titles that got TrueHD audio on HD DVD but only Dolby Digital on BD, though I don't have any of them. Picture quality was identical across the board, except for maybe the first handful of releases that used MPEG2 on the BDs.
WHat ones aren't as good?
Not meant to be sarcastic, I'm asking because I don't need to get copies of something that aren't at least identical in video quality to ones I already own? How many "aren't as good," which ones are they? If there are some that aren't as good I won't bother to get a worse copy.
I figured they were all at least identical.
Off the top of my head, Training Day (no TrueHD track), the early 300 pressings (no PiP).
Stinky-Dinkins 04-22-09, 07:46 PM OK, good. I don't own Training Day and I have no real use for PiP.
Matt_Stevens 04-22-09, 07:51 PM OK, wait, so those of us with the original Complete MATRIX Trilogy are shite out of luck? :mad:
Do the BD versions for Batman Begins and V For Vendetta have lossless sound?
OK, wait, so those of us with the original Complete MATRIX Trilogy are shite out of luck? :mad:
No, I'm hearing from multiple people at HDD that have called customer service that you are eligible for the BD upgrade from either the Complete or Ultimate HD DVD editions.
OK, good. I don't own Training Day and I have no real use for PiP.
Yeah. There are a few others on the list that Warner did the same with, so I'd double-check with some reviews to make sure on the ones you do have.
Off the top of my head, Training Day (no TrueHD track), the early 300 pressings (no PiP).
Wait, later pressings of 300 have PiP?
Jwilly019 04-22-09, 07:59 PM OK, wait, so those of us with the original Complete MATRIX Trilogy are shite out of luck? :mad:
Do the BD versions for Batman Begins and V For Vendetta have lossless sound?
That's what I'd like to find out.
Also, both of those titles come with lossless sound.
AmishFury 04-22-09, 07:59 PM my 300 is the non combo version so i'm going to have to ask if they will do it (while i like the PiP track the disc just won't play on my A20... it gets to the WB logo then stops)
casablanca... well i like collectors boxes full of useless swag and i didn't even pay for my hd dvd copy to begin with (5 free offer and the cover wasn't molested)
maybe batman begins just for format consistency with TDK (considering the blu does have all the bonus from the red)
and i'll see what they say about the matrix trilogy (if i can luck out and upgrade to the ultimate through this... unlikely but i can always hope)
i'm not sending them my year one case from the HP set... i can deal with 3 blu cases next to 5 red
BenjaminKing 04-22-09, 08:20 PM Looks like they are currently missing U-571 and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. If they include those, my Warner collection will be completely moved.
Wait, later pressings of 300 have PiP?
I'm not sure if this is true... someone in another forum mentioned this in passing... but I have no knowledge of this, so I just listed "early pressings" as a catch all just in case.
giantchicken 04-22-09, 08:28 PM Looks like they are currently missing U-571 and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. If they include those, my Warner collection will be completely moved.
U-571 is a Universal title.
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, Forbidden Planet, Poseidon and Terminator 3 will be the only remaining Warner HD DVDs in my collection after this offer.
obispo21 04-22-09, 08:36 PM The PiP feature of 300 hasn't been replicated on Blu-ray yet. There was some talk of a double-dip coming in the future though.
There are a couple WB HD DVDs that are "better" than the BD counterpart in some way... Lady in the Water and Happy Feet (and previously Superman Returns) had TrueHD tracks on HD, but only DD on BD.
I have the Matrix and Harry Potter 1-5 sets in HD, but ended up getting the BDs later on as well when i found them for a good price.
I guess those of us that may have already bought in both formats could trade-in and sell the second BD copy... probably only end up with a couple dollars per disc though :(
BenjaminKing 04-22-09, 08:40 PM U-571 is a Universal title.
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, Forbidden Planet, Poseidon and Terminator 3 will be the only remaining Warner HD DVDs in my collection after this offer.
Dang, you're right! Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is key for us because my 8 yr old always wants to watch it, but it freezes up half-way through the movie...
Here:
http://www.red2blu.com/products.html
There are some great deals to be had even if you don't have an HDDVD player there are stores (on-line) selling HDDVDs on this list REALLY inexpensive (and note some HDDVDs are a combo including the regular DVD version on it too) and after calculating in the $5 to get the BD title it works on (on some titles) to be less expensive than buying the BD 'normally'. You can get the HP and Matrix HDDVD set really inexpensive and then use the 'labels' to get the BDs at pricing lower than buying the BDs 'only'.
ChrisPC 04-22-09, 08:49 PM What a great idea! I have about 15 or 16 movies I can switch over, including the Harry Potter films. I had a couple more, but sold them on eBay.
EDIT: I do still have Casablanca, still shrink wrapped.
Bozster 04-22-09, 08:56 PM This is really great. I have a over 100 HD DVDs and was thinking to rip them and sell the copies but now I don't have to. I have the most of Warner ones and for low price I can switch them to Blu and have everything on one format as backup.
$4.95 is not bad.
schick85 04-22-09, 08:58 PM Trading in the Ultimate Matrix Collection seems to be the best deal on there.
I'm might consider doing this.
I'm not sure if this is true... someone in another forum mentioned this in passing... but I have no knowledge of this, so I just listed "early pressings" as a catch all just in case.
The PiP feature of 300 hasn't been replicated on Blu-ray yet. There was some talk of a double-dip coming in the future though.
Oh okay then. I remember hearing about the double-dip but nothing's come of it yet.
Smarty-pants 04-22-09, 09:13 PM This is really great. I have a over 100 HD DVDs and was thinking to rip them and sell the copies but now I don't have to. I have the most of Warner ones and for low price I can switch them to Blu and have everything on one format as backup.
$4.95 is not bad.
Well, at least 25 of them, but not 100 :rolleyes:.
(I roll the eyes at Warner, not you.)
giantchicken 04-22-09, 09:18 PM The double dip version of 300 is likely to hit in July alongside Watchmen.
I would love to see Universal make an offer like this, but looking through my collection today made me realize how far behind they are in bringing their HD DVD titles to Blu-ray. Since they weren't neutral like WB, it's not as easy to offer a Blu version of the old titles. Paramount would be a more likely possibility, since they were also neutral for most of the format war and a similar offer would be far easier for them than Universal.
super390 04-22-09, 10:22 PM The Warner exchange program will make things easier for me.
However, I can see some problematic discs.
I have the earlier release of Full Metal Jacket with the white cover. What is shown on the Warner website is the remaster with the black cover. Will I be covered?
I also want to turn in a Casablanca, but the Casablanca Blu-ray edition is deluxe edition only. What exactly will I get?
If this program just started I guess I will wait and see what happens to other people.
Off to look for a Planet Earth hd-dvd for less than 20 bucks.
AmishFury 04-22-09, 10:39 PM except all of paramount's HD-DVDs during their neutral days had better audio than the bluray versions
now i'd trade in transformers and maybe beowulf
ranmaniac 04-22-09, 10:48 PM I finally got a Blu Ray player over a week ago, and this deal was pretty much a no-brainer, as my 6 WB HD-DVDs are collecting dust. My envelope goes out tomorrow, hopefully it's really around 5 weeks and not 3+ months.
DeathKnight 04-22-09, 11:21 PM I also want to turn in a Casablanca, but the Casablanca Blu-ray edition is deluxe edition only. What exactly will I get?
They have a special version only for this program. You'll get just the movie in its own case.
colombianlove41 04-22-09, 11:51 PM I wonder what Warner is going to do with all those returned Hd-dvd's?
sell them at the grocery store....
ChrisPC 04-23-09, 12:00 AM sell them at the grocery store....
They're not taking the discs, just the covers. However, I did buy a couple from Kroger a few months ago. :D
I've done some thinking. Anyone think WB is doing this to eliminate competition from bargain priced HD DVDs floating around?
They get no profit from clearance priced HD DVDs, which compete with the BD versions.
I guess they'd rather sell the BDs for effectively $5 and make the clearance HD DVDs worth even less.
There's already a glut of them on eBay, etc. This might be the final nail in the coffin. :(
Brent Madden 04-23-09, 12:00 AM No, I'm hearing from multiple people at HDD that have called customer service that you are eligible for the BD upgrade from either the Complete or Ultimate HD DVD editions.
I e-mailed them tonight for clarification so hopefully I'll get a response tomorrow. If it's allowed, I'm definitely sending in the paper(which I kept for some inexplicable reason) from my Complete Matrix Trilogy so I can upgrade to the Ultimate Matrix set on Blu. :cool:
shadowrage 04-23-09, 12:09 AM They have a special version only for this program. You'll get just the movie in its own case.
My receipt says Ultimate Edition, and that's the only version I can find on the WBshop site.
The box art on the page seems to be just place holders, there's a pic of Bonnie and Cylde in a normal elite case(which isn't available in the US).
I sent my cover off this morning I'll report back whenever my item shows up.
giantchicken 04-23-09, 12:16 AM I've done some thinking. Anyone think WB is doing this to eliminate competition from bargain priced HD DVDs floating around?
They get no profit from clearance priced HD DVDs, which compete with the BD versions.
I guess they'd rather sell the BDs for effectively $5 and make the clearance HD DVDs worth even less.
There's already a glut of them on eBay, etc. This might be the final nail in the coffin. :(
I would say that this is going to drive up the sales of old HD DVDs, actually. People can pick up a cheap HD DVD and then send it in for a Blu-ray with this offer instead of buying the Blu-ray outright at normal price.
Let's say that you want the TrueHD version of Superman Returns--now instead of paying $23-25, you can get a copy of the HD DVD for between 2-5 bucks used, then add five bucks for the Blu-ray upgrade. This will make the clearance HD DVDs even more attractive than this time last week, when there was zero demand for them.
Smarty-pants 04-23-09, 12:21 AM They have a special version only for this program. You'll get just the movie in its own case.
How do you know that??? That is not what is listed on the red2blu site. If that is the case, they will have a TON of upset customers. A lot of people are doing the Casablanca exchange because of getting the Ultimate Edition, just like it is listed on the red2blu website.
moviegeek 04-23-09, 12:40 AM Anybody else see that this will create a black market for HD DVD covers(or copies)?
I'm not saying for people to do this but you can get high quality color copies for $.35.
In fact I bet these covers will be all over the internet in a few days allowing anyone to print them and get a new BD for $4.95,if Warner was smart they would at least ask for the case.
Big Worms 04-23-09, 12:41 AM How do you know that??? That is not what is listed on the red2blu site. If that is the case, they will have a TON of upset customers. A lot of people are doing the Casablanca exchange because of getting the Ultimate Edition, just like it is listed on the red2blu website.
Exactly. Plus the people doing the Matrix set, and the Harry Potter set, and others.
Cinema Squid 04-23-09, 01:17 AM They have a special version only for this program. You'll get just the movie in its own case.
This doesn't seem entirely outside the realm of possibility since a basic edition of Casablanca is available from Warner in Germany at least:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B001G429TE
Smarty-pants 04-23-09, 01:47 AM Anybody else see that this will create a black market for HD DVD covers(or copies)?
I'm not saying for people to do this but you can get high quality color copies for $.35.
In fact I bet these covers will be all over the internet in a few days allowing anyone to print them and get a new BD for $4.95,if Warner was smart they would at least ask for the case.
They are paying for shipping, they don't want to pay for all that extra shipping. If they were smart, they'd ask for the discs, not the cases, but that is not their goal anyway. They are trying to saturate the market with Blu-ray... period. They could give a rat's ass about bootleg cover art.
eapleitez 04-23-09, 02:15 AM Meh, pay money for non-upgrades? And in several titles, downgrades in audio? I'm using my money for titles I don't have, either red or blu.
ChrisPC 04-23-09, 02:34 AM I would say that this is going to drive up the sales of old HD DVDs, actually. People can pick up a cheap HD DVD and then send it in for a Blu-ray with this offer instead of buying the Blu-ray outright at normal price.
That's part of my point. It will for a while, at least until all the old HD DVDs are traded in. All the online stores will soon be out of stock. By the time the promotion ends, all that will be left are HD DVDs without covers. No retailers will sell those, and they won't even be worth selling on eBay. Voila, the clearance discs are gone. :rolleyes:
The only title I have that I would want to trade in would be ones with upgraded audio on blue ray. Otherwise paying 5 dollars to switch to the same disc with same pq and sound, and same features does not make much sense to me.
I could put that 75 dollars to other titles to purchase.
tw1zt3d 04-23-09, 04:23 AM I would say that this is going to drive up the sales of old HD DVDs, actually. People can pick up a cheap HD DVD and then send it in for a Blu-ray with this offer instead of buying the Blu-ray outright at normal price.
Let's say that you want the TrueHD version of Superman Returns--now instead of paying $23-25, you can get a copy of the HD DVD for between 2-5 bucks used, then add five bucks for the Blu-ray upgrade. This will make the clearance HD DVDs even more attractive than this time last week, when there was zero demand for them.
i was looking at the titles available for the upgrade, and started thinking about running to frys, and seeing if purchasing from frys, and paying for the upgrade (since i'd already be paying the flat 6.95 regardless for the other titles i'd be sending in) and seeing if it was worth it.
for example, take alexander. its like 5 bucks at frys, and 5 bucks to send in the paper... so 10 bucks for alexander as opposed to 30...
SugarBowl 04-23-09, 04:57 AM Trading in the Ultimate Matrix Collection seems to be the best deal on there.
I'm might consider doing this.
I wish i still had that flimsy piece of paper that was half glued to the case...
Will they take the cardboard box instead?
There are some great deals to be had even if you don't have an HDDVD player there are stores (on-line) selling HDDVDs on this list REALLY inexpensive (and note some HDDVDs are a combo including the regular DVD version on it too) and after calculating in the $5 to get the BD title it works on (on some titles) to be less expensive than buying the BD 'normally'. You can get the HP and Matrix HDDVD set really inexpensive and then use the 'labels' to get the BDs at pricing lower than buying the BDs 'only'.
Hmmm... how about HD-DVDs which are ordered from say Australia, Amazon.co.uk or Canada (inetvideo eg)? The FAQ did not state about HD-DVDs bought from outside the States.
Blacklac 04-23-09, 06:58 AM If the Blu's were actually any upgrade at all, I'd be all over this. Unfortunely, most of the time, the HD DVD was slightly superior, being that it used VC-1 over MPEG2 or DD+ over DD. Bummer.
I still have 2 players and 2 PC drives, no hurry to get rid of my HD DVD's.
I wish i still had that flimsy piece of paper that was half glued to the case...
Will they take the cardboard box instead?
We are still waiting to see what Warner says on this. In an earlier post in this thread, it was said that Warner is looking into updating the special instructions on what to do in the cases that people don't still have the glued piece of paper.
I thought about sending in all of the individual disc inserts, a photocopy of the box cover showing that they came from the 'Ultimate Matrix', and a note indicating that I no longer had the glued paper that was on back of the box. But at this moment, I will just wait to see what the new instructions are.
thebland 04-23-09, 07:44 AM I e-mailed them tonight for clarification so hopefully I'll get a response tomorrow. If it's allowed, I'm definitely sending in the paper(which I kept for some inexplicable reason) from my Complete Matrix Trilogy so I can upgrade to the Ultimate Matrix set on Blu. :cool:
There is no UPC code on my COMPLETE MATRIX BOX..? So, do you send individual UPCs??
THANKS!!
Tes7769 04-23-09, 07:58 AM Considering that i own both the Matrix boxed set and the Harry Potter 2007 1-5 boxed set, and the nominal upgrade fee cost on both, i'm definitely going to upgrade those as well as a few more WB HD-DVDs i have left.The few that are actual downgrades in sound and the like i'm not going to bother trading in as that would be a waste of money imo.
I find this offer favors those who bought HD-DVD boxed sets from WB but is still a decent offer for those of us that still have a decent ammount of WB HD-DVDs that we don't use much, if at all anymore as most of us have already long switched our loyalty to BluRay.
As for the paper backing that was on the Matrix HD-DVD boxed set, i sure hope WB comes up with another way for us to send in proof of purchase so we can upgrade these sets.As those above have stated, we could always send in the 3 individual case covers as well as a photocopy or the like of the box they came in.Most folks don't keep those extra papers that come "spirit-glued" to the back of the boxed sets and thus won't have any way to qualify for the upgrade.
William 04-23-09, 08:09 AM If the Blu's were actually any upgrade at all, I'd be all over this. Unfortunely, most of the time, the HD DVD was slightly superior, being that it used VC-1 over MPEG2 or DD+ over DD. Bummer...
Warner only used 448Kbps or 640Kbps DD+ and it's the same on BD's using DD.
MOrlando 04-23-09, 08:39 AM There is no UPC code on my COMPLETE MATRIX BOX..? So, do you send individual UPCs??
THANKS!!
Sending them the covers for each of the three films will suffice, per Customer Service this morning.
This is just what the doctor ordered, I sold my Toshiba A2 six months ago (for a profit no less) ;) and now I can upgrade my Red collection to Blu for five bucks apiece.
Thanks Warner Bros.
What no one has discussed on this thread is YES it 'costs' you $5 to get the BD disc BUT one thing HDDVDs are well known for is their ease of getting scratched and unplayable. If anything, getting the BD for $5 is a good 'investment' should the HDDVD ever become unplayable OR just sell the BD on eBay since it'll be shrinkwrapped etc. BDs have a far superior coating on them that are much more forgivable than HDDVDS.
I've done some analysis on buying HDDVDs cheap (inetvideo.com, amazon.com resellers, etc.) and you can buy 'some' HDDVDs at a low price of @$6 (that includes shipping) - factor in the $6 (on average including shipping) from WB (if you have several titles) that means you could have the HDDVD, BD and, on some titles, the DVD version for a total of $12 - you can NOT beat that.....
I've got several HDDVDS in a 'cart' at one website but even if I don't buy those I have @10 HDDVDs i'll 'upgrade' including the HP Box Set ($15 for the BD set - that would make a great xmas gift too!)
dougotte 04-23-09, 09:52 AM I finally got a Blu Ray player over a week ago, and this deal was pretty much a no-brainer, as my 6 WB HD-DVDs are collecting dust. My envelope goes out tomorrow, hopefully it's really around 5 weeks and not 3+ months.
Let us know how it works out. I only have two WB titles I can convert (a HP and Casablanca). I'm particularly interested in Casablanca if they give us the huge new box, but I've heard bad things in the past about interminable delays after purchasing things from WB.
Doug
BZiggyZ 04-23-09, 10:00 AM Sending them the covers for each of the three films will suffice, per Customer Service this morning.
Am I getting this right? I can send the inserts for the complete Matrix box and get the Ultimate Matrix box for $15? Sounds good.
Now they just need to add Terminator 3 (as well as releasing both Willy Wonka films and Caddyshack already).
bdizzle 04-23-09, 10:49 AM Cool, i got ~15 movies ima send in. Hopefully Uni does the same thing. I'm glad most my movies are from WB :)
JudgeSmails 04-23-09, 10:53 AM Sending them the covers for each of the three films will suffice, per Customer Service this morning.
Thanks for verifying that MO. I sent them in that way yesterday afternoon hoping it would work :) I'll let the folks here know if it works or not.
cobolisdead 04-23-09, 11:11 AM Well, last night i went ahead and ordered a few switches.
Batman Begins, Casablanca, Ultimate Collector's Edition, Harry Potter 1-5 Limited Edition Giftset, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, Phantom of the Opera, and V for Vendetta. I figure that I should have some of my favorite films in the format that is going to be going on for a while. Batman and HP mainly so I can have the entire series on one format. I'm hoping that the BD Harry Potter Set is the chest one and not the slimline version.
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Bossjon 04-23-09, 11:16 AM I've deceided to order 5, only because I have the x-box add on and it still sounds like a jet engine while I am watching them, and I cannot get the HD audio.
1) Troy
2) Departed
3) HP box set
4) Constantine
5) 300
Too bad I've already upgraded my Batman Begins last summer.
Matt_Stevens 04-23-09, 11:35 AM Is there a list of Warner BD titles lacking the TrueHD audio that is available on the HD-DVD's?
My Warner titles are BATMAN BEGINS, ENTER THE DRAGON, EXCALIBUR, LETHAL WEAPON, MUTINY on the BOUNTY, SPACE COWBOYS, SUPERMAN I & II, V For VENDETTA and PLANET EARTH (got that one for free!). Most DD+, of course, but BB and VforV are TrueHD on HD-DVD.
It's a shame EXCALIBUR and MUTINY are not available on BD yet. :( Excalibur is one of my top three favorite films and Mutiny has one of the most mind blowingly detailed transfers ever seen.
Oh, I have LAST SAMURAI, but lost the case, so I cannot trade that one in. D'OH!!
newguy416 04-23-09, 11:43 AM I decided on 3 of my 24. They really picked a tempting price to “upgrade”. Initially I wanted to change all of mine but after thinking about it I picked 3. I was really excited about adding to my blu ray collection but I realized that I would just be duplicating what I already have and works.
Planet Earth (I can give the HD version to my Dad)
Bonnie and Clyde (just takes the paper from the back that is not attached)
Casablanca (I want the Ultimate)
Bigfame 04-23-09, 11:44 AM I just spoke with a gentleman in Customer Service about the Matrix issue (I have the Complete Set and did not keep the Paper on the back of the box). He told me that they have received many calls about this and they are informing people to send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box and send the three Sleeves in a manila envelope and I would then receive the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set. I am going to do this.
Brent Madden 04-23-09, 12:02 PM I just spoke with a gentleman in Customer Service about the Matrix issue (I have the Complete Set and did not keep the Paper on the back of the box). He told me that they have received many calls about this and they are informing people to send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box and send the three Sleeves in a manila envelope and I would then receive the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set. I am going to do this.
So now they're saying that just sending the paper sleeve from the back of the set won't get you the upgrade? :confused:
I just spoke with a gentleman in Customer Service about the Matrix issue (I have the Complete Set and did not keep the Paper on the back of the box). He told me that they have received many calls about this and they are informing people to send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box and send the three Sleeves in a manila envelope and I would then receive the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set. I am going to do this.
Oops. I already dropped mine in the mail box, and I didn't include the box (I only sent in the 3 individual disc inserts).
Nothing I can do about it now. I will just have to see what they send me back.
giantchicken 04-23-09, 12:13 PM I sent mine in yesterday, and included the inserts for each of the three Matrix movies plus the bonus disc. The Matrix box was pretty sturdy and didn't fold up as easily as the Ocean's slipcover, so I cut the front of the carboard box off and stuck it in there. If all of the covers and the slab of cardboard that says "Ultimate Matrix Collection HD DVD" isn't enough, I don't really have much more to offer them, lol.
Stinky-Dinkins 04-23-09, 12:13 PM send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box
Hahaha, I have no idea why but that seems ridiculous to me.
jeffden 04-23-09, 12:13 PM I just spoke to customer service about having to send the box in. I never keep the boxes when the movies come in an actual case. They said not to worry, they will take it with just the covers for teh three movies as others have stated previously.
I also hope that they include more movies soon. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Mutiny and Excalibur are three more I would like to get.
Pugnax555 04-23-09, 12:19 PM I also hope that they include more movies soon. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Mutiny and Excalibur are three more I would like to get.
They would need to release those on BD first...
MISSY QUICK 04-23-09, 12:24 PM i might do this for casablanca and a few others... think about it this way... you still have the discs
print a new cover and sell it
OKAY!!!! How do you go about printing a new cover?
Thank You.
MissyQuick
Bigfame 04-23-09, 12:35 PM If you have a printer at home, just put the cover on the printer bed and print out a new cover. Take that piece of paper and then cut out the cover. If you have a color printer that is better
Scott_lb 04-23-09, 01:11 PM Figures. I sell my remaining HD-DVDs on eBay and two days later they announce this. Doh!
quack724 04-23-09, 01:14 PM I sent in mine yesterday for Planet Earth. The website clearly shows the picture for "Planet Earth: The Complete BBC Series" and the title underneath shows "Planet Earth: The Complete..." After I sent in my covers yesterday I got scared that I might in fact receive the US Discovery Channel version which I do not want!
I did call R2B customer service and the CS rep did not sound 100% confident in her answer that I would receive the BBC version but did say that I would receive as shown on the R2B site. And she didn't think there would be any returns allowed if I was unhappy.
Question - Can WB only send the BBC version or do they have rights to the Discovery Channel version ?
AmishFury 04-23-09, 01:17 PM I just spoke with a gentleman in Customer Service about the Matrix issue (I have the Complete Set and did not keep the Paper on the back of the box). He told me that they have received many calls about this and they are informing people to send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box and send the three Sleeves in a manila envelope and I would then receive the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set. I am going to do this.
so they are giving people who only have the trilogy set the ultimate edition? excellent
and i kept the paper from the back of the box so i don't even have to ditch the cover art from the cases
Brent Madden 04-23-09, 01:22 PM OK, I just spoke w/ a CS rep and he told me the ONLY thing I needed to send in from the "Complete Matrix Collection" to upgrade to the "Ultimate Matrix Collection" is the paper sleeve with the UPC on it. I specifically asked if I needed to send anything else(individual artwork or box) and he said no, only the paper sleeve. So, that's the only thing I'm going to send in for the upgrade and I'm expecting that they'll honor it.
Ianscloset 04-23-09, 01:23 PM I went ahead and picked every single Warner title that I own to "upgrade"... so about 35 titles. I will feel a lot better when I have more Blu in my collection... worried that my A35 my die out soon.
However, I have a question regarding boxsets and wonder if anyone knows the answer here... I going to send in my 2 Sopranos Seasons and the Ocean's Boxset... under the special instructions on them it says just send in the cardboard cases that hold the discs... so in the case of the Sopranos do they want the outside of the box or the flip book that is inside with all of the trays? And then in the case of Oceans, do they want to outside slip cover, the box holding the discs, or the cover art for all 3?
Thanks in advance!
Why are Batman Begins and Casablanca better on Blu-Ray?
What other titles are better?
Thanks.
Well I think this is a pretty good deal. I will be sending 17 HD DVD covers for the corresponding 17 BD discs for $84.15 + shipping and tax. Now my WB movies will be future proofed when my XA2 eventually gives up the ghost.
I have a question though. My HP Order of the Phoenix HD DVD is actually a british import. Do you think that will make a difference?
Pugnax555 04-23-09, 01:28 PM I sent in mine yesterday for Planet Earth. The website clearly shows the picture for "Planet Earth: The Complete BBC Series" and the title underneath shows "Planet Earth: The Complete..." After I sent in my covers yesterday I got scared that I might in fact receive the US Discovery Channel version which I do not want!
I did call R2B customer service and the CS rep did not sound 100% confident in her answer that I would receive the BBC version but did say that I would receive as shown on the R2B site. And she didn't think there would be any returns allowed if I was unhappy.
Question - Can WB only send the BBC version or do they have rights to the Discovery Channel version ?
You have nothing to worry about. The ONLY version of Planet Earth that WB sells is the BBC version. WB handles manufacturing/distribution for 2entertain, which is the company that has the rights to the BBC version of the show. Discovery Corp. holds the rights to the Discovery Channel version.
obispo21 04-23-09, 01:33 PM I went ahead and picked every single Warner title that I own to "upgrade"... so about 35 titles. I will feel a lot better when I have more Blu in my collection... worried that my A35 my die out soon.
Remember that they limit you to 25 different trade-ins total per household.
schick85 04-23-09, 01:47 PM I just spoke with a gentleman in Customer Service about the Matrix issue (I have the Complete Set and did not keep the Paper on the back of the box). He told me that they have received many calls about this and they are informing people to send in the Sleeves from Each Movie AND also the box itself. He said I could Flatten out the box and send the three Sleeves in a manila envelope and I would then receive the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set. I am going to do this.
Is there something printed on the paper that's not on the box? I find it awfully weird that they're making people who don't have the paper slip with them go an extra step. I'm saying this 'cause I want to keep the covers-- it's the box that I don't need.
xradman 04-23-09, 02:06 PM Is there something printed on the paper that's not on the box? I find it awfully weird that they're making people who don't have the paper slip with them go an extra step. I'm saying this 'cause I want to keep the covers-- it's the box that I don't need.
They are offering replacement Blu-rays at extremely low cost. I am frankly surprised they are making these exceptions. You could in theory by using multiple names and addresses, get 3 Matrix Ultimate Blu-ray Set from 1 HD DVD Collectors/Ultimate Set by sending the back slip, outer box, and individual cover sheets.
jrcbandit 04-23-09, 02:08 PM Is there something printed on the paper that's not on the box? I find it awfully weird that they're making people who don't have the paper slip with them go an extra step. I'm saying this 'cause I want to keep the covers-- it's the box that I don't need.
The box is rather useless to WB. They want the UPC symbols, which you either get from the individual covers or the paper slip that was loosely attached to the box via puddy/glue.
quack724 04-23-09, 02:08 PM You have nothing to worry about. The ONLY version of Planet Earth that WB sells is the BBC version. WB handles manufacturing/distribution for 2entertain, which is the company that has the rights to the BBC version of the show. Discovery Corp. holds the rights to the Discovery Channel version.
Thanks Pugnax555. :)
Blacklac 04-23-09, 02:37 PM Granted I haven't read a ton about DD+, what I have read has led me to believe DD+ is a better and more efficient codec than regular old DD.
Warner only used 448Kbps or 640Kbps DD+ and it's the same on BD's using DD.
JBlacklow 04-23-09, 02:48 PM Granted I haven't read a ton about DD+, what I have read has led me to believe DD+ is a better and more efficient codec than regular old DD.Better than the original DVD implementation, yes. But Roger Dressler (a Dolby engineer who posts here) has said that DD on Blu-ray at 640Kbps or less is equivalent to a DD+ track at the same bitrate. Since Warner used 640Kbps for both DD (on Blu-ray) and DD+ (on HD DVD), there's no difference.
Am I getting this right? I can send the inserts for the complete Matrix box and get the Ultimate Matrix box for $15? Sounds good.
Now they just need to add Terminator 3 (as well as releasing both Willy Wonka films and Caddyshack already).
no - it must be the Ultimate Box set (I have just the trilogy box set) :mad:
Dr_Kn0w 04-23-09, 03:39 PM For any Canadians out there, I emailed the red2blu customer service and asked if this is coming to Canada, and they said:
"Thank you for your email.
At this time our program is only available in the United States. As far as I know there are no plans to extend the areas."
Brent Madden 04-23-09, 04:02 PM no - it must be the Ultimate Box set (I have just the trilogy box set) :mad:
The CS rep I spoke to today said you can send in the paper insert with UPC from the Complete Trilogy and still receive the Ultimate Collection in return.
The two I'd be most interested in exchanging are Ultimate Matrix and Blade Runner. Think I'll pass though.
1. I didn't keep the paper glued to the back of the Matrix box. It seems that I need to send in the artwork AND the box. Ugh.
2. Why is Blade Runner $15 to exchange? They seem to base price based on # of disks when I would think MSRP is a better indicator. While true that BR is 5 disks it can be had for $24.86.
I know I know...you can still consider this a deal. In my case the savings seems minimal given the hassle for the ones I'm interesed in.
xfileed916 04-23-09, 05:21 PM Am I the only one who thinks $14.95 for Blade Runner is a bit much? That's more than the full seasons of Sopranos and Smallville. I am glad they are offering this program though. Hope Universal follows suit.
schandorsky 04-23-09, 05:26 PM Am I the only one who thinks $14.95 for Blade Runner is a bit much? That's more than the full seasons of Sopranos and Smallville. I am glad they are offering this program though. Hope Universal follows suit.
When I purchase Blade Runner (Five-Disc Complete Collector's Edition) [Blu-ray] last year from Amazon it was $14.95 with free shipping. This whole thing is a ripoff.
txfilmguy 04-23-09, 05:28 PM WOW Awesome Can I upgrade the Matrix HD DVD Trilogy to Blu, as well?
Yes. I'm sending mine in.
Phil Tomaskovic 04-23-09, 05:28 PM The CS rep I spoke to today said you can send in the paper insert with UPC from the Complete Trilogy and still receive the Ultimate Collection in return. I wonder if they understand the difference between the Complete and Ultimate? The web site special instructions say the UPC must be 085391167877. Obviously Complete Matrix has different #.
I wonder if they understand the difference between the Complete and Ultimate? The web site special instructions say the UPC must be 085391167877. Obviously Complete Matrix has different #.
and if i got a paper backing w/my Complete Trilogy i don't remember it nor do i have it. i'd be really surprised if they offer the same deal for just the Complete Trilogy when they offer the ability to get the 'upgraded' BD for The Matrix first HDDVD.
and if i got a paper backing w/my Complete Trilogy i don't remember it nor do i have it. i'd be really surprised if they offer the same deal for just the Complete Trilogy when they offer the ability to get the 'upgraded' BD for The Matrix first HDDVD.
I don't remember getting a paper backing with my Complete Matrix neither, and I never throw those things away.
giantchicken 04-23-09, 06:47 PM When I purchase Blade Runner (Five-Disc Complete Collector's Edition) [Blu-ray] last year from Amazon it was $14.95 with free shipping. This whole thing is a ripoff.
If the current Amazon price was still $15, then I would agree with you, but it's currently $25. I'd rather add $15 to my swap if I wanted a BR version than pay $25.
It does seem like it should be $10 along with Smallville and Planet Earth, etc. But it's still cheaper than the current price elsewhere for those who are interested.
solidgator 04-23-09, 06:48 PM I have an unopened complete Matrix, it has a paper slip on the back
Brent Madden 04-23-09, 07:36 PM I wonder if they understand the difference between the Complete and Ultimate? The web site special instructions say the UPC must be 085391167877. Obviously Complete Matrix has different #.
They understand the difference because the guy I spoke to clearly knew there were two different Matrix sets produced.
As for the paper, it was glued to the back of the box and listed the specs, special features, etc. and had the UPC code. That's what needs to be sent in for the upgrade.
ti-triodes 04-23-09, 07:39 PM Just pulled the plug on the Ultimate Matrix and SE Casablanca. It's not worth trading anything else, at least for me.
fatherom 04-23-09, 07:52 PM This was briefly mentioned in the HD-DVD forum, but I will mention it here too...
On the page where you select the titles you want, it says to send in the glued-on-paper from the back of the Ultimate Matrix Collection.
But when I placed my order, it specifically said to send in the cover art from Matrix Revolutions only.
I ended up sending both things (I still had the glued-on-paper), just to be safe.
I didn't send the cover art for the first two films...we'll see what I get back from WB. :)
Also, yesterday I called and the customer service rep was trying to convince me that it was the DISCOVERY version of Planet Earth...but after doing some net research, I am convinced (as others are) that I will be receiving the BBC version.
Chris
ricwhite 04-23-09, 09:18 PM I went ahead and traded in 9. I had The Ultimate Matrix Collection back cover sheet, so I sent that in. I try to keep all paperwork on my BDs or HD DVDs. The back sheet on The Matrix was loose so I just wedged in against the box on my shelf. Hopefully, everything will work.
I decided against sending in my 300 HD DVD cover to get a replacement since it was a bundled movie and didn't have a UPC. According to the directions, the covers or papers MUST have a UPC on it and be the "correct" number. That is also why I didn't send it the cover of my imported Harry Potter movie as well. I'm sure it would have the wrong UPC number.
Does any know if the titles imported from foreign websites are eligible? I have quite a fair bit of titles bought from inetvideo and amazon.co.uk, as well as Australia.
Thanks
moviegeek 04-23-09, 10:26 PM Does any know if the titles imported from foreign websites are eligible? I have quite a fair bit of titles bought from inetvideo and amazon.co.uk, as well as Australia.
Thanks
They're eligible as long as they are on the Warner website and they have a UPC.
The only restrictions are you must live in the US and you can only redeem up to 25 titles.
mike171979 04-23-09, 10:34 PM Now, if only Universal will do this
On the page where you select the titles you want, it says to send in the glued-on-paper from the back of the Ultimate Matrix Collection.
But when I placed my order, it specifically said to send in the cover art from Matrix Revolutions only.
I just spoke with Customer Service about this. Their original plan was to require the paper from the back of the box. But since so many people have called to complain that they didn't keep the paper, they're now saying that they will take the sleeve from Matrix Revolutions instead. So this means that they will take the paper from the box OR the sleeve from Revolutions. If you have both, just send the paper. If you don't have the paper, send the sleeve from Revolutions.
Smarty-pants 04-23-09, 11:11 PM I just spoke with Customer Service about this. Their original plan was to require the paper from the back of the box. But since so many people have called to complain that they didn't keep the paper, they're now saying that they will take the sleeve from Matrix Revolutions instead. So this means that they will take the paper from the box OR the sleeve from Revolutions. If you have both, just send the paper. If you don't have the paper, send the sleeve from Revolutions.
What do you mean by "sleeve"?... the cover art?
If it IS the cover art, I'd assume you could just use your cover art from the the "complete" set as opposed to the "ultimate" set? ;)
In for 12 movies. We'll see how this goes. I haven't got a confirmation email back yet though. How long after you order is the email supposed to come in?
geoffrsc 04-23-09, 11:30 PM I sent in the art for 20 movies this afternoon. The confirmation email took about 15 minutes.
I sent in the art for 20 movies this afternoon. The confirmation email took about 15 minutes.
WTH? I submitted my order 2 hrs ago and haven't received anything yet. :mad:
geoffrsc 04-23-09, 11:36 PM Mine went to my spam folder. Did you check there?
eapleitez 04-23-09, 11:40 PM The only titles I'm considering on taking up this offer is exhanging my Complete Matrix for the Ultimate Matrix set on blu, but only because the Animatrix is HD. But I have a big reservation about this because I don't know if the Matrix Revolutions Neo-Smith fight glitch (on the blu-ray) has been corrected. Otherwise I'd jump on it.
Mine went to my spam folder. Did you check there?
Thanks man!! That was exactly it.
The only one borderline not worth doing is Blade Runner. I am not likely to upgrade my copy since I know I've seen it for $20 before, so one day it'll be there again.
Everything else is easily worth doing if you either want Blu ray just "in case" your HD player dies, or you have a friend with HD and you can give/sell your HDs to him and get Blus for yourself, or especially the Complete-to-Ultimate upgrade for the Matrix Set.
I do have some HD movies that were not the greatest (Firewall for example) that are not worth the $5 for me to upgrade, so I won't be doing ones like that.
stumlad 04-24-09, 12:27 AM I called twice about Matrix with regards to "Complete" instead of "Ultimate" . 1st person told me to send all 3 covers. 2nd person told me all they would need is the cover to Revolutions. I think I'm going to send in all 3 to be sure.
rolltide1017 04-24-09, 12:49 AM The website says that you can only have a total of 25 trade-ins per household. So, does this mean I can place more then one order as long as it doesn't add up to more the 25 trades? Say I only want to do 5 this month and another 5 next month when I have more money.
geoffrsc 04-24-09, 12:55 AM The website says that you can only have a total of 25 trade-ins per household. So, does this mean I can place more then one order as long as it doesn't add up to more the 25 trades? Say I only want to do 5 this month and another 5 next month when I have more money.
I think that would be OK but they will charge the $6.95 shipping per order.
RobertR1 04-24-09, 03:08 AM Sounds like a good deal for some people. For me, it doesn't work out. It'd cost me $150 and I don't see the benefit. My HD A35 is an excellent player and doesn't seem to be having any issues. One day, it'll fail and by then, I'll be able to pick up the movies I'd be trading in now, from the bargain bin.
$155.76 shipped for 25 titles = no brainer = done with my x-mas shopping for at least 10 people. Planet Earth for $10 and Ultimate Matrix for $15, should balance the prices paid originally for the red versions!
I still love my red collection, though. Making copies of the red covers and keeping them for my A2, AX2, A30 and 3 Xbox add-ons in the family! ;-)
gringer 04-24-09, 05:50 AM Thanks for verifying that MO. I sent them in that way yesterday afternoon hoping it would work http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif I'll let the folks here know if it works or not.
Interesting.. lemme know if it works for you.. :rolleyes:
They understand the difference because the guy I spoke to clearly knew there were two different Matrix sets produced.
As for the paper, it was glued to the back of the box and listed the specs, special features, etc. and had the UPC code. That's what needs to be sent in for the upgrade.
So I have the COMPLETE HD DVD set. I never remove the shrinkwrap on box sets, but just slit the opening. Am I to understand that the paper being talked about is part of the box cover packaging, with graphics etc., that would be under the shrinkwrap, and can be peeled off intact? Then you send this in as proof of your purchase, plus what amount of money(?), the get back the ULTIMATE MATRIX set on Blu?
On the five disc COLLECTOR'S EDITION of BLADE RUNNER, you send in the whole graphic sheet that serves as the cover (sitting loose under the connected clear plastic sleeve which is part of the case assembly), with what amount of money (?), and get what set in Blu?
Thanks for clarifying this.......
Pugnax555 04-24-09, 07:50 AM Sounds like a good deal for some people. For me, it doesn't work out. It'd cost me $150 and I don't see the benefit. My HD A35 is an excellent player and doesn't seem to be having any issues. One day, it'll fail and by then, I'll be able to pick up the movies I'd be trading in now, from the bargain bin.
That was initially my thought. Maybe one day in a few years you'll find some of these titles in a bargain bin...for 5 bucks each.... :p
I decided several months ago that I would like to reduce/eliminate my HD DVD collection. Mainly to reduce the amount of equipment in my HT, bedroom and living room. This certainly helps in that direction.
Victor Bergman 04-24-09, 12:00 PM I do hope this gets extended to Canada. I'd be willing to trade in some of my Warner's, especially if there is an upgrade or extras involved. I'm one of those who has audio sync issues with my HD DVD Ultimate Matrix set, and the bonus of getting the Animatrix in HD is worth it. I'd likely send for Casablanca too. I'm not sure if I'd bother for other titles that don't offer anything different, though, like Batman Begins.
I'm in no rush to offload my HD DVD collection. I just bought three more last week at the great sale that Zeller's (Canada) is having (from $4.99-6.99). For that matter, I'm still buying the odd laserdisc, too! But if I can get an upgrade, audio problem correction, or more bonus features, then I'm definitely into this.
Warner, hurry up with the Canadian web page for this offer!
Brent Madden 04-24-09, 12:23 PM So I have the COMPLETE HD DVD set. I never remove the shrinkwrap on box sets, but just slit the opening. Am I to understand that the paper being talked about is part of the box cover packaging, with graphics etc., that would be under the shrinkwrap, and can be peeled off intact? Then you send this in as proof of your purchase, plus what amount of money(?), the get back the ULTIMATE MATRIX set on Blu?
That's what the CS rep I spoke with yesterday told me so that's what I did. Apparently other people have been told you have to send in the cover art for Revolutions. I think this is one of those instances where a lot of different information is floating around and nobody really knows what the hell is going on. :(
Stinky-Dinkins 04-24-09, 12:41 PM Sounds like a good deal for some people. For me, it doesn't work out. It'd cost me $150 and I don't see the benefit. My HD A35 is an excellent player and doesn't seem to be having any issues. One day, it'll fail and by then, I'll be able to pick up the movies I'd be trading in now, from the bargain bin.
Even then though, it'll probably be tough to find most of these titles for under 5 bucks.
Matt_Stevens 04-24-09, 12:49 PM I don't know if the Matrix Revolutions Neo-Smith fight glitch (on the blu-ray) has been corrected.
What glitch? Please explain. :eek:
airborn007 04-24-09, 12:53 PM I'm out of luck...tossed away all my covers for my HD DVD...called customer service & they will not accept the disk but only sleeve cover :mad: Mainly wanted to upgrade Matrix Trilogy only.
AmishFury 04-24-09, 01:15 PM What glitch? Please explain. :eek:
authoring error causing some frames to skip or show up as a blocky mess... there's a thread with screenshots which can be found by searching
moviegeek 04-24-09, 02:14 PM Even then though, it'll probably be tough to find most of these titles for under 5 bucks.
In a few years when my XA2 breaks I will be able to buy a used Warner BD for $5 or rent it,that's the reason the upgrade isn't worth it for me.When that happens I will sell my HD DVD collection...with original covers.
AmishFury 04-24-09, 02:55 PM for anyone wondering about the non-combo version of 300 here's the email i just got from them... also one more confirmation that they are upgrading the matrix complete trilogy to ultimate collection
Thank you for your interest in Warner Bros.Unfortunately, for the copy of 300, we would need the cover art with UPC code in order to do an exchange.
The FAQs for the Matrix are as follows:
The Complete Matrix Trilogy (on HD-DVD) can be upgraded to The Ultimate Matrix Collection (on Blu-ray).
Simply complete your transaction online as if you have The Ultimate Matrix Collection.
you'd think they would let you do the non-combo version... i'm just going to buy the combo version and see if it works in my A20
Stinky-Dinkins 04-24-09, 03:28 PM You just confused the crap out of me.
Does the non-combo version of 300 not come with cover art or something?
Pugnax555 04-24-09, 03:33 PM You just confused the crap out of me.
Does the non-combo version of 300 not come with cover art or something?
The non-combo version of 300 only came as a pack-in "free" disc with some HD DVD players. Since this version was never intended for sale separately, it didn't have a UPC barcode on the package. Thus WB won't accept it as a trade-in.
OTOH, a retail copy of 300 can be bought from inetvideo for $1.99 right now (+ shipping).
AmishFury 04-24-09, 03:39 PM 1.99 plus shipping (for just 300) came to $4.94 total... like i said... hopefully it works on my A20... but since the non-combo doesn't i'm not putting any money on it
jbjbjbjb 04-24-09, 04:06 PM Looks like they increased the price of the Casablanca upgrade to $9.95 and the Ultimate Matrix and HP box set to $19.95. These new prices show up when you go to checkout.
Thank goodness I sent mine out yesterday.
Smarty-pants 04-24-09, 04:52 PM Looks like they increased the price of the Casablanca upgrade to $9.95 and the Ultimate Matrix and HP box set to $19.95. These new prices show up when you go to checkout.
Thank goodness I sent mine out yesterday.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Looks like they increased the price of the Casablanca upgrade to $9.95 and the Ultimate Matrix and HP box set to $19.95. These new prices show up when you go to checkout.
Thank goodness I sent mine out yesterday.
Doh! I guess I should've jumped. I wasn't sure it was going to be the whole set or just the disc, but this price increase seems to indicated it'll be the whole set.
nikeajax 04-24-09, 05:47 PM The price of Planet Earth is also increased to $14.95.:mad:
Originally Posted by Emaych:
"So I have the MATRIX COMPLETE HD DVD set. I never remove the shrinkwrap on box sets, but just slit the opening. Am I to understand that the paper being talked about is part of the box cover packaging, with graphics etc., that would be under the shrinkwrap, and can be peeled off intact? Then you send this in as proof of your purchase, plus what amount of money(?), the get back the ULTIMATE MATRIX set on Blu?"
Brent Madden answer:
"That's what the CS rep I spoke with yesterday told me so that's what I did. Apparently other people have been told you have to send in the cover art for Revolutions. I think this is one of those instances where a lot of different information is floating around and nobody really knows what the hell is going on."
Thanks Brent,
I guess now it has changed anyway -- appears to be up to $20 now?..........but still this does not involve sending in the discs right? Just the back cover sheet?
laugsbach 04-24-09, 06:46 PM ...but still this does not involve sending in the discs right?
That is correct...you keep the discs.
AmishFury 04-24-09, 07:00 PM the price didn't go up i just got off the phone and it's a glitch with the website
the guy told me to hold off on the order for now
Looks like they increased the price of the Casablanca upgrade to $9.95 and the Ultimate Matrix and HP box set to $19.95. These new prices show up when you go to checkout.
Thank goodness I sent mine out yesterday.
Whoa, that was close! I'm glad I ordered my Ultimate Matrix and Planet Earth yesterday. :)
eapleitez 04-24-09, 08:14 PM the price didn't go up i just got off the phone and it's a glitch with the website
the guy told me to hold off on the order for now
You better be right! Though I can't see how a price would automatically "glitch" its way higher.
the price didn't go up i just got off the phone and it's a glitch with the website
the guy told me to hold off on the order for now
I'm pretty sure he was wrong. The product pages now show the higher prices. Casablanca is listed at $9.95 and has an additional note indicating that it is indeed the Ultimate Collector's Edition.
Lemonade727 04-24-09, 09:11 PM Glad I got my order put in this morning before the price jumped up, hopefully, for those who didn't buy yet, it is just a glitch and they will get the prices back down.
eizenga13 04-24-09, 09:40 PM Looks like they increased the price of the Casablanca upgrade to $9.95 and the Ultimate Matrix and HP box set to $19.95. These new prices show up when you go to checkout.
Thank goodness I sent mine out yesterday.
WOW Casablanca for 10 bucks
Ultimate Matrix for 20
Harry Potter for 20
Oceans Trilogy (My HD DVD's ALWAYS froze up on these ones)
Anyone know the difference in Superman Returns (is it Audio?!)
Pugnax555 04-24-09, 10:39 PM And they removed Planet Earth from the list. Oh well, I've been planning on getting the UK BD version anyways.
AmishFury 04-24-09, 11:28 PM I'm pretty sure he was wrong. The product pages now show the higher prices. Casablanca is listed at $9.95 and has an additional note indicating that it is indeed the Ultimate Collector's Edition.
i'll be calling them again i was assured that the prices were not going up
Phil Tomaskovic 04-25-09, 12:21 AM And they removed Planet Earth from the list. Oh well, I've been planning on getting the UK BD version anyways.
Gallapagos and a few others are also gone. I wonder if they sold out or just decided to remove them?
ilovenola2 04-25-09, 12:44 AM The price of Planet Earth is also increased to $14.95.:mad:
Guess I'm lucky. I compiled my list and mailed it out with covers right before noon Central time US. The prices for both Planet Earth ($9.95) and Casablanca ($4.95) were not increased at that time.
I haven't been back to the site. All I can say is, "Whew!
And-- Galapagos was available at that time and I added it as well.
ChrisPC 04-25-09, 01:58 AM I don't have The Matrix, Planet Earth, or the Harry Potter box, but I do have Casablanca. I'm going to send about 15 or 16 covers in, so 5 extra bucks isn't gonna ruin it for me.
Stinky-Dinkins 04-25-09, 02:33 AM In a few years when my XA2 breaks I will be able to buy a used Warner BD for $5 or rent it,that's the reason the upgrade isn't worth it for me.When that happens I will sell my HD DVD collection...with original covers.
Sounds like a plan.
For me I'll keep my A2 and trade my WB HD-DVD's for BluRays while this offer is still open. Nothing against the format, I enjoyed it while it was going - it's gone though.
The competition was good, for everyone. HDDVD had better quality out of the gate, forced BD to follow suit. I don't regret buying any of my HDDVD s,hit, but I'm glad Warner is doing this. Giving paying customers good options is always a good thing in my book.
Anyone know the difference in Superman Returns (is it Audio?!)
I believe the only difference is the BD has the Dolby Digital track and the HD DVD has the TrueHD track.
giantchicken 04-25-09, 11:33 AM The deleted scenes were in HD on the HD DVD. I think they might be standard def on the Blu-ray, if I recall some comments correctly.
dbburns 04-25-09, 01:21 PM Damn, I can't believe that Planet Earth is gone. I wonder if I should wait a few days to see if it comes back or if I should hurry up and submit the other HD DVDs that I have before they get pulled from the offer, too. I think I'll wait it out. I believe someone earlier in this thread said that this offer is supposed to run through December.
I think I will just go for Casablanca and the Matrix Trilogy. I have a few other HD DVDs that I paid close to $5 to begin with -- so upgrading would mean paying double the original price just to get a blue case.
tw1zt3d 04-26-09, 02:10 AM i tried to hit up my local Fry's today to get a few titles... there wasn't a single WB title to be had...and i was there a couple weeks ago and they still had a decent selection of titles
so i wonder if they got a heads up to pull them... but then that doesnt make sense either... you'd think they'd jump at the chance to unload a few dozen titles
switch42 04-26-09, 09:23 AM Originally Posted by Emaych:
"So I have the MATRIX COMPLETE HD DVD set. I never remove the shrinkwrap on box sets, but just slit the opening. Am I to understand that the paper being talked about is part of the box cover packaging, with graphics etc., that would be under the shrinkwrap, and can be peeled off intact? Then you send this in as proof of your purchase, plus what amount of money(?), the get back the ULTIMATE MATRIX set on Blu?"
Brent Madden answer:
"That's what the CS rep I spoke with yesterday told me so that's what I did. Apparently other people have been told you have to send in the cover art for Revolutions. I think this is one of those instances where a lot of different information is floating around and nobody really knows what the hell is going on."
Thanks Brent,
I guess now it has changed anyway -- appears to be up to $20 now?..........but still this does not involve sending in the discs right? Just the back cover sheet?
It now states on red2blu to send in the Matrix Revolutions cover. I am sure they will allow either the Revolutions cover or the back piece of paper with the UPC from the set.
rktcyntst 04-26-09, 12:18 PM It now states on red2blu to send in the Matrix Revolutions cover. I am sure they will allow either the Revolutions cover or the back piece of paper with the UPC from the set.
It also now calls out that this applies to folks that purchased either the 'Ultimate' set or the 'Complete' set. Nice! :)
natecorn 04-26-09, 12:46 PM With regards to the HP box set, was the cover art different inside the case then if you purchased the titles separately? I ended up buying all 5 titles on HD-DVD but not as a box set because at the time it cose $50 instead of $100. I want to upgrade to the blu-ray box set but I'm not sure if they would let me. Any ideas?
AmishFury 04-26-09, 01:13 PM the box set didn't include normal cases... it had little digipak cases made to look like school books
to get the HP set in bluray you need to send the year one case which is the blue one in the pic below
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/SgtPnkks/hpset/hpset2.jpg
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