Kind of a technical question (which will help me choose a new dvd player so I've also posted there as well)

If a subs specs says it goes down to 20hz or 16hz or whatever the case may be, can it ever reach that low if the DVD frequency on the player is listed as 30hz-20khz? Or is that not what that DVD frequency spec means? Confusing because that spec is on some DVD player listings and some are not.

For those of you hearing (feeling) deep, deep bass, what players are you playing it with? Does the low low bass come from blu ray only?

Thanks for the help, and feel free to let me know if this is a stupid question (just please include the answer :D)

The DVD player should have no effect at all. Are you using a digital cable to to connect it to your receiver?

Right now I am using composite but have a digital coax cable on order and will use that as soon as it gets here. (My current player is old and does not have HDMI - nor optical)

What does the freq response that DVD players list indicate then?

Thanks.

I've never seen a DVD player with such weak specs, but if if yours has those specs, it will certainly limit the performance of your sub in the deep bass area.

Right now I am using composite but have a digital coax cable on order and will use that as soon as it gets here. (My current player is old and does not have HDMI - nor optical)

What does the freq response that DVD players list indicate then?

Thanks.

Does it even have component? Id highly suggest getting a new player. Pretty cheap nowadays.

Right now I am using composite but have a digital coax cable on order and will use that as soon as it gets here.What do you mean by "composite"? Do you mean you are using a R/L analog audio connection? If so, the LFE channel is being dropped.

I've never seen those specs on a DVD player. The player is just a source component. It should reproduce the DVD as is, nothing more, nothing less. What DVD player are you referring to?

I'm currently using a Philips DVP3140. Its is currently hooked up using R/L analog because I had a 15 year old TV that only had R/L analog connections. I recently got a new TV :) (along with a new (used) sub and receiver :D) and have a digital coax on order.

The specs on the DVP 3140 say this in the "Sound" section:

D/A converter 24 bit, 192 kHz
Frequency response 30-20000 Hz
Signal to noise ratio 90
Distortion and Noise (1kHz) 65 dB
Crosstalk (1kHz) 70 dB
Dynamic Range (1kHz) 80 dB
Sound System Dolby Digital
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/ca/consumer/cc/_productid_DVP3140_37_CA_CONSUMER/DVD-player+DVP3140-37

The Oppo 970HD lists this as "Audio Characteristics (Nominal specification)":

* Frequency: 20Hz – 20kHz (±1dB)
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio: >100dB
* Total Harmonic Distortion: < 0.01%
http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd_spec.html

Am I missing something? Maybe these specs don't mean what I think they mean?

Am I missing something? Maybe these specs don't mean what I think they mean?

They won't once you hook it up with a digital coaxial cable.

They won't once you hook it up with a digital coaxial cable.Agreed. Besides, the Philips FR specs are meaningless.

He he he, what a fool I've been. I just hooked up my cheapo dvd player with digital coax. Oh my, what a difference! I can't wait until my sub gets here.

How much of a difference would an expensive dvd player (like a used Oppo, not a $1000s one) make in terms of overall sound (not just bass), over a cheapo one? Anyone have experience going from a cheapo to a good player?

Thanks.

How much of a difference would an expensive dvd player (like a used Oppo, not a $1000s one) make in terms of overall sound (not just bass), over a cheapo one?

none. The cheapest player will output the same quality as an expensive one, as long as you stay with digital. Basically, the player is not doing anything to the signal, just sending it out to your recevier for processing. Expensive dvd player can play more kinds of dvds and output better picture, but will not change the audio at all.

Oh? What about the player's ability to decode Dolby, etc?

For blu rays, I've read some threads where its been written that as long as you have a player that does all the decoding (I'm assuming including 7.1), that your AV receiver doesn't need the ability to do it? I guess decoding is different than the audio signals that will actually come out of the player? Or is blu ray different?

Oh? What about the player's ability to decode Dolby, etc?

For blu rays, I've read some threads where its been written that as long as you have a player that does all the decoding (I'm assuming including 7.1), that your AV receiver doesn't need the ability to do it? I guess decoding is different than the audio signals that will actually come out of the player? Or is blu ray different?

Bluray is different, because the bandwidth required for full digital trasnsfer of 8 channels (7.1) in high-resolution lossless (24 bit/96kHz) is much higher than you need for redbook CD (16 bit/44kHz).

The issue is that while the BD player may be able to decode the lossless codecs (TrueHD, dts-MA, etc.), the "standard" digital link doesn't have the bandwidth to carry the lossless info. You need HDMI 1.3 at both ends for that, or you need to have a high-end player that has analog outs and a good internal decoding and D/A system.