Blu-ray looks better than the D-Theater version. Fewer artifacts sharper image. As it should be.

X- Men: The Last Stand both releases identical. Same encode. Any "pro" reviewer saying otherwise, well why don't you guys pass that around here. I may need some of that ;)

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D-Theater File size: 18.40 GB

Bitrate: 22.95 mbps

Sequence Summary:

File Size Processed: 18.48 GB, Play Time: 01h:45m:36s
1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps, 45.00 Mbps (22.95 Mbps Average).
Average Video Quality: 93.46 KB/Frame, 0.37 Bits/Pixel.
AC3 Audio: 3/2 Channels (L, C, R, SL, SR) + LFE, 48.0 kHz, 576 kbps.
Dialog Normalization: -27.0 dB, Center Mix Level: -3.0 dB, Surround Mix Level: -3.0 dB
5 of 189906 video frames found with errors.
1 of 198011 audio frames found with errors.
67006 corrupted video bytes in file.
0.066722 seconds of video timestamp gaps.
0.063989 seconds of audio timestamp gaps.




Blu-ray File size: 27.70 GB

Bitrate: 30.19 mbps


Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00013.MPLS AVC 1:44:20 29,834,698,752 39,611,449,691 38.13 30.19 DTS-HD Master 5.1 3746Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps


DISC INFO:

Disc Title: XMEN_D1
Disc Size: 39,611,449,691 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00013.MPLS
Size: 29,834,698,752 bytes
Length: 1:44:20 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate: 38.13 Mbps
Description:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 30189 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3746 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3746 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 33.880 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 25.121 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 26.291 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.328 kbps
Presentation Graphics Korean 24.436 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 28.544 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 28.279 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00074.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:44:20.295 29,834,698,752 38,126

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:01:19.287 26,291 kbps 37,589 kbps 00:01:11.404 33,520 kbps 00:01:07.108 33,204 kbps 00:00:06.589 136,999 bytes 437,022 bytes 00:01:11.905
2 0:01:19.287 0:02:58.845 30,660 kbps 37,221 kbps 00:02:14.008 33,594 kbps 00:02:37.740 33,257 kbps 00:03:13.234 159,849 bytes 414,526 bytes 00:04:18.132
3 0:04:18.132 0:01:37.889 33,112 kbps 36,065 kbps 00:04:23.763 33,824 kbps 00:04:19.926 33,414 kbps 00:04:29.519 172,632 bytes 453,070 bytes 00:04:19.968
4 0:05:56.022 0:02:00.036 32,505 kbps 37,844 kbps 00:06:28.304 33,908 kbps 00:06:24.342 33,511 kbps 00:06:19.379 169,464 bytes 281,922 bytes 00:07:56.058
5 0:07:56.058 0:01:27.629 33,073 kbps 36,776 kbps 00:08:09.447 33,484 kbps 00:09:03.834 33,375 kbps 00:08:58.704 172,426 bytes 361,826 bytes 00:08:10.114
6 0:09:23.688 0:02:14.008 31,605 kbps 36,152 kbps 00:10:57.698 33,614 kbps 00:10:53.694 33,407 kbps 00:10:48.689 164,773 bytes 395,824 bytes 00:10:39.013
7 0:11:37.697 0:03:00.805 29,399 kbps 33,820 kbps 00:11:39.740 32,505 kbps 00:12:23.993 31,952 kbps 00:12:20.906 153,273 bytes 328,150 bytes 00:14:38.502
8 0:14:38.502 0:03:23.161 31,890 kbps 35,240 kbps 00:15:42.942 33,656 kbps 00:15:38.938 33,400 kbps 00:15:37.019 166,261 bytes 385,864 bytes 00:15:47.738
9 0:18:01.663 0:02:48.001 32,448 kbps 39,491 kbps 00:20:47.579 34,755 kbps 00:20:43.575 33,824 kbps 00:20:38.570 169,171 bytes 367,593 bytes 00:20:48.205
10 0:20:49.665 0:01:19.454 28,210 kbps 33,825 kbps 00:20:57.047 31,690 kbps 00:20:55.712 30,878 kbps 00:21:25.575 147,073 bytes 286,512 bytes 00:21:15.148
11 0:22:09.119 0:01:49.526 32,950 kbps 35,020 kbps 00:22:51.745 33,509 kbps 00:22:38.690 33,307 kbps 00:22:23.008 171,787 bytes 246,111 bytes 00:22:19.338
12 0:23:58.645 0:04:47.203 31,393 kbps 35,017 kbps 00:27:27.562 33,446 kbps 00:27:45.163 33,303 kbps 00:27:47.123 163,666 bytes 387,258 bytes 00:28:26.454
13 0:28:45.849 0:01:09.319 31,762 kbps 35,647 kbps 00:28:58.945 33,381 kbps 00:29:23.636 33,283 kbps 00:29:16.463 165,590 bytes 247,921 bytes 00:29:31.394
14 0:29:55.168 0:02:11.339 32,942 kbps 35,645 kbps 00:31:25.842 33,810 kbps 00:31:22.881 33,510 kbps 00:31:17.917 171,745 bytes 262,761 bytes 00:30:30.119
15 0:32:06.507 0:01:31.174 32,927 kbps 44,233 kbps 00:32:38.539 34,750 kbps 00:32:34.535 33,982 kbps 00:32:29.530 171,668 bytes 321,735 bytes 00:32:39.415
16 0:33:37.682 0:02:59.554 29,966 kbps 35,252 kbps 00:36:15.840 33,615 kbps 00:36:17.508 33,204 kbps 00:36:12.712 156,227 bytes 269,786 bytes 00:33:44.647
17 0:36:37.236 0:01:47.941 32,616 kbps 36,045 kbps 00:38:23.843 33,468 kbps 00:38:19.839 33,275 kbps 00:36:44.327 170,045 bytes 237,309 bytes 00:38:24.510
18 0:38:25.177 0:02:46.708 29,209 kbps 37,693 kbps 00:39:10.598 33,386 kbps 00:40:23.504 33,284 kbps 00:40:23.504 152,284 bytes 303,906 bytes 00:39:16.896
19 0:41:11.886 0:03:01.973 29,944 kbps 36,424 kbps 00:43:22.516 33,532 kbps 00:43:18.512 33,390 kbps 00:43:28.147 156,114 bytes 348,767 bytes 00:44:13.859
20 0:44:13.859 0:01:36.596 33,114 kbps 34,249 kbps 00:45:19.466 33,399 kbps 00:44:25.287 33,304 kbps 00:44:33.879 172,643 bytes 342,527 bytes 00:44:15.861
21 0:45:50.456 0:02:51.087 31,454 kbps 36,548 kbps 00:46:03.093 33,845 kbps 00:45:59.089 33,525 kbps 00:45:54.084 163,984 bytes 431,106 bytes 00:47:16.917
22 0:48:41.543 0:01:40.892 31,968 kbps 35,003 kbps 00:49:54.574 33,528 kbps 00:49:47.109 33,336 kbps 00:49:42.145 166,664 bytes 332,892 bytes 00:49:52.114
23 0:50:22.436 0:01:43.394 30,229 kbps 34,448 kbps 00:52:01.785 32,640 kbps 00:52:00.826 31,863 kbps 00:51:24.790 157,602 bytes 228,223 bytes 00:51:24.831
24 0:52:05.831 0:02:52.380 30,954 kbps 38,110 kbps 00:53:43.678 33,343 kbps 00:52:40.073 33,207 kbps 00:52:32.524 161,380 bytes 307,251 bytes 00:54:15.919
25 0:54:58.211 0:03:12.942 32,122 kbps 35,084 kbps 00:57:59.684 33,482 kbps 00:55:04.300 33,231 kbps 00:55:00.005 167,472 bytes 330,036 bytes 00:58:00.185
26 0:58:11.154 0:01:08.610 30,314 kbps 34,439 kbps 00:58:15.533 33,342 kbps 00:58:15.575 33,117 kbps 00:58:11.696 158,044 bytes 250,681 bytes 00:59:18.388
27 0:59:19.764 0:02:35.196 32,477 kbps 35,333 kbps 01:00:45.224 33,589 kbps 01:00:56.569 33,335 kbps 01:00:51.689 169,319 bytes 256,107 bytes 01:00:20.742
28 1:01:54.961 0:01:22.665 32,725 kbps 35,934 kbps 01:03:04.113 33,425 kbps 01:03:08.034 33,291 kbps 01:02:45.136 170,614 bytes 229,344 bytes 01:02:44.177
29 1:03:17.627 0:02:44.747 32,381 kbps 37,781 kbps 01:04:13.432 33,548 kbps 01:05:35.640 33,377 kbps 01:05:30.635 168,819 bytes 297,465 bytes 01:04:14.141
30 1:06:02.375 0:02:37.407 28,923 kbps 38,339 kbps 01:06:18.307 33,409 kbps 01:08:30.439 32,937 kbps 01:06:57.722 150,790 bytes 384,056 bytes 01:06:19.100
31 1:08:39.782 0:03:41.596 30,211 kbps 35,626 kbps 01:11:48.721 33,386 kbps 01:09:09.228 33,263 kbps 01:09:04.265 157,507 bytes 288,799 bytes 01:09:07.351
32 1:12:21.378 0:05:42.425 32,452 kbps 42,164 kbps 01:14:33.177 35,030 kbps 01:14:29.214 34,070 kbps 01:14:24.168 169,191 bytes 355,428 bytes 01:16:07.229
33 1:18:03.804 0:02:49.419 30,332 kbps 36,723 kbps 01:18:30.914 33,470 kbps 01:20:07.177 33,257 kbps 01:20:42.212 158,137 bytes 348,518 bytes 01:20:12.098
34 1:20:53.223 0:03:34.839 30,770 kbps 36,508 kbps 01:21:57.203 33,308 kbps 01:21:35.223 33,072 kbps 01:21:31.177 160,420 bytes 265,421 bytes 01:21:52.741
35 1:24:28.063 0:02:30.358 31,647 kbps 36,364 kbps 01:26:42.322 33,889 kbps 01:26:40.069 33,450 kbps 01:26:34.397 164,994 bytes 309,360 bytes 01:26:43.907
36 1:26:58.421 0:02:10.088 26,435 kbps 35,068 kbps 01:26:58.838 32,780 kbps 01:27:01.966 32,345 kbps 01:26:58.838 137,823 bytes 277,564 bytes 01:28:06.823
37 1:29:08.509 0:02:38.700 32,981 kbps 34,216 kbps 01:31:21.434 33,434 kbps 01:30:37.515 33,327 kbps 01:30:54.282 171,950 bytes 278,491 bytes 01:31:29.609
38 1:31:47.210 0:01:25.668 33,051 kbps 35,815 kbps 01:32:01.182 33,537 kbps 01:31:57.220 33,396 kbps 01:31:52.173 172,315 bytes 338,569 bytes 01:33:12.128
39 1:33:12.878 0:01:59.244 31,740 kbps 36,481 kbps 01:35:04.949 33,802 kbps 01:35:00.903 33,521 kbps 01:34:55.940 165,478 bytes 293,320 bytes 01:34:01.594
40 1:35:12.123 0:09:08.172 19,165 kbps 33,766 kbps 01:38:10.509 33,229 kbps 01:38:09.842 32,494 kbps 01:38:08.465 99,924 bytes 391,140 bytes 01:43:25.616

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00074.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 6260.212 30,190 23,624,239,242 128,481,032
00074.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 6260.212 3,746 2,931,220,112 16,909,470
00074.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 6260.212 448 350,577,920 1,956,350
00074.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x81 AC3 fra (French) 6260.212 448 350,577,920 1,956,350
00074.M2TS 4355 (0x1103) 0x81 AC3 spa (Spanish) 6260.212 448 350,577,920 1,956,350
00074.M2TS 4356 (0x1104) 0x81 AC3 por (Portuguese) 6260.212 448 350,577,920 1,956,350
00074.M2TS 4357 (0x1105) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 6260.212 224 175,288,960 978,175
00074.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 6260.212 34 26,511,993 149,106
00074.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS spa (Spanish) 6260.212 28 22,129,577 125,099
00074.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS zho (Chinese) 6260.212 25 19,658,406 111,661
00074.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 PGS kor (Korean) 6260.212 24 19,122,395 109,151
00074.M2TS 4612 (0x1204) 0x90 PGS zho (Chinese) 6260.212 26 20,573,791 116,614
00074.M2TS 4613 (0x1205) 0x90 PGS por (Portuguese) 6260.212 29 22,336,986 126,049
00074.M2TS 4614 (0x1206) 0x90 PGS fra (French) 6260.212 0 256,830 1,442


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D-Theater File size: 22.70 GB

Bitrate: 21.47 mbps

Sequence Summary:

File Size Processed: 22.75 GB, Play Time: 02h:14m:31s
1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps, 45.00 Mbps (21.47 Mbps Average).
Average Video Quality: 87.46 KB/Frame, 0.35 Bits/Pixel.
AC3 Audio: 3/2 Channels (L, C, R, SL, SR) + LFE, 48.0 kHz, 576 kbps.
Dialog Normalization: -27.0 dB, Center Mix Level: -3.0 dB, Surround Mix Level: -3.0 dB
0 of 241905 video frames found with errors.
0 of 252234 audio frames found with errors.
0 corrupted video bytes in file.
0.000000 seconds of video timestamp gaps.
0.000000 seconds of audio timestamp gaps.



Blu-ray File size: 29.50 GB

Bitrate: 22.88 mbps


Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00013.MPLS AVC 2:13:47 31,697,897,472 34,383,193,599 31.59 22.88 DTS-HD Master 5.1 4075Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps


DISC INFO:

Disc Title: X2
Disc Size: 34,383,193,599 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00013.MPLS
Size: 31,697,897,472 bytes
Length: 2:13:47 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate: 31.59 Mbps
Description:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 22878 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 4075 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4075 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 41.161 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 32.284 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 34.528 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.731 kbps
Presentation Graphics Korean 25.920 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 28.138 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 31.707 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00074.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:13:47.477 31,697,897,472 31,589

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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1 0:00:00.000 0:01:50.527 19,290 kbps 47,612 kbps 00:00:36.327 36,955 kbps 00:00:32.323 35,091 kbps 00:00:27.360 100,530 bytes 514,406 bytes 00:00:37.078
2 0:01:50.527 0:03:31.419 23,713 kbps 32,024 kbps 00:03:32.795 29,508 kbps 00:03:22.243 28,111 kbps 00:03:17.488 123,629 bytes 270,736 bytes 00:02:47.250
3 0:05:21.946 0:01:50.318 24,500 kbps 36,018 kbps 00:06:40.983 33,934 kbps 00:06:40.983 32,820 kbps 00:06:41.734 127,731 bytes 405,347 bytes 00:06:50.618
4 0:07:12.265 0:05:14.856 24,399 kbps 35,187 kbps 00:11:23.432 33,027 kbps 00:11:20.805 29,507 kbps 00:11:17.134 127,204 bytes 456,852 bytes 00:12:27.121
5 0:12:27.121 0:03:07.103 22,839 kbps 32,553 kbps 00:12:27.997 27,512 kbps 00:12:27.121 25,247 kbps 00:13:56.460 119,074 bytes 385,096 bytes 00:12:28.122
6 0:15:34.224 0:02:23.101 19,234 kbps 27,388 kbps 00:15:35.184 23,526 kbps 00:16:13.097 22,239 kbps 00:16:10.302 100,278 bytes 359,196 bytes 00:15:35.225
7 0:17:57.326 0:01:28.379 25,428 kbps 32,844 kbps 00:19:06.728 29,668 kbps 00:19:04.351 28,209 kbps 00:19:04.351 132,568 bytes 250,507 bytes 00:18:21.809
8 0:19:25.706 0:03:21.910 23,368 kbps 36,072 kbps 00:20:14.630 29,656 kbps 00:20:14.046 28,073 kbps 00:20:14.004 121,828 bytes 245,399 bytes 00:22:38.690
9 0:22:47.616 0:03:22.076 25,738 kbps 36,815 kbps 00:24:13.869 33,072 kbps 00:24:10.031 32,425 kbps 00:24:13.160 134,184 bytes 350,216 bytes 00:24:10.073
10 0:26:09.693 0:03:06.269 20,464 kbps 36,838 kbps 00:27:38.573 30,541 kbps 00:27:35.862 28,055 kbps 00:27:35.862 106,691 bytes 360,574 bytes 00:27:39.366
11 0:29:15.962 0:01:54.322 19,344 kbps 34,776 kbps 00:29:45.867 27,807 kbps 00:29:29.601 26,301 kbps 00:29:29.601 100,849 bytes 256,198 bytes 00:30:47.011
12 0:31:10.285 0:02:31.401 24,363 kbps 33,625 kbps 00:31:42.066 30,349 kbps 00:31:39.731 28,668 kbps 00:31:40.940 127,018 bytes 285,063 bytes 00:32:27.195
13 0:33:41.686 0:01:27.837 25,659 kbps 36,631 kbps 00:34:35.865 32,019 kbps 00:34:35.865 30,326 kbps 00:34:35.865 133,772 bytes 275,249 bytes 00:34:19.515
14 0:35:09.524 0:04:40.655 21,934 kbps 36,273 kbps 00:36:42.158 33,182 kbps 00:36:41.490 29,758 kbps 00:36:38.446 114,356 bytes 277,909 bytes 00:36:43.701
15 0:39:50.179 0:05:45.553 22,211 kbps 36,043 kbps 00:42:25.000 32,316 kbps 00:42:23.666 31,259 kbps 00:42:23.874 115,800 bytes 305,226 bytes 00:42:31.465
16 0:45:35.733 0:01:42.602 23,948 kbps 30,604 kbps 00:45:35.733 29,093 kbps 00:46:41.715 28,240 kbps 00:46:36.710 124,853 bytes 252,346 bytes 00:47:18.335
17 0:47:18.335 0:03:05.768 23,274 kbps 31,771 kbps 00:48:45.255 28,032 kbps 00:48:53.430 25,885 kbps 00:48:51.053 121,341 bytes 230,371 bytes 00:50:07.921
18 0:50:24.104 0:02:53.882 22,498 kbps 28,610 kbps 00:52:24.766 26,853 kbps 00:51:27.209 25,394 kbps 00:51:24.706 117,294 bytes 229,971 bytes 00:52:25.517
19 0:53:17.986 0:02:22.433 23,801 kbps 35,756 kbps 00:53:48.266 32,699 kbps 00:53:46.556 31,493 kbps 00:54:33.979 124,090 bytes 321,371 bytes 00:55:00.547
20 0:55:40.420 0:01:34.511 22,703 kbps 27,327 kbps 00:56:41.356 25,215 kbps 00:56:58.832 24,861 kbps 00:56:58.706 118,362 bytes 281,780 bytes 00:56:15.330
21 0:57:14.931 0:02:06.876 21,627 kbps 29,353 kbps 00:57:33.366 27,749 kbps 00:57:29.404 26,806 kbps 00:57:28.820 112,755 bytes 252,645 bytes 00:59:21.808
22 0:59:21.808 0:05:34.083 24,718 kbps 36,378 kbps 01:02:35.209 35,100 kbps 01:02:30.997 32,039 kbps 01:02:30.079 128,870 bytes 360,203 bytes 01:02:58.399
23 1:04:55.892 0:04:27.809 22,399 kbps 30,017 kbps 01:08:08.209 28,355 kbps 01:08:37.363 26,823 kbps 01:05:53.324 116,780 bytes 274,350 bytes 01:09:10.855
24 1:09:23.701 0:05:25.033 20,305 kbps 29,927 kbps 01:12:44.902 27,965 kbps 01:12:43.984 25,761 kbps 01:12:43.901 105,863 bytes 350,851 bytes 01:12:18.125
25 1:14:48.734 0:03:29.751 23,961 kbps 34,752 kbps 01:14:55.991 31,411 kbps 01:14:55.157 28,408 kbps 01:14:55.157 124,923 bytes 329,374 bytes 01:18:18.485
26 1:18:18.485 0:06:34.060 24,757 kbps 35,070 kbps 01:22:27.025 32,433 kbps 01:18:32.374 30,761 kbps 01:18:31.081 129,071 bytes 291,567 bytes 01:18:19.486
27 1:24:52.545 0:02:23.893 21,713 kbps 28,259 kbps 01:24:53.379 27,284 kbps 01:26:23.636 25,635 kbps 01:26:21.593 113,200 bytes 253,333 bytes 01:26:23.678
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title: X-Men 3 1st rls
Disc Size: 24,434,402,742 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00002.MPLS
Size: 21,519,777,792 bytes
Length: 1:44:05 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate: 27.57 Mbps
Description:

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Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
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AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
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Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
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Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

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Presentation Graphics English 87.464 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.839 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 34.423 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.785 kbps

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CHAPTERS:

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2 0:05:14.313 0:04:04.994 24,772 kbps 49,219 kbps 00:07:24.569 42,517 kbps 00:07:21.232 38,182 kbps 00:05:26.909 129,149 bytes 463,771 bytes 00:07:25.111
3 0:09:19.308 0:02:58.094 20,398 kbps 33,726 kbps 00:09:28.985 32,199 kbps 00:09:26.524 30,886 kbps 00:09:23.729 106,345 bytes 384,645 bytes 00:12:17.403
4 0:12:17.403 0:05:33.666 17,084 kbps 29,485 kbps 00:13:35.064 25,761 kbps 00:13:33.729 24,975 kbps 00:17:02.688 89,068 bytes 385,236 bytes 00:12:18.320
5 0:17:51.069 0:05:16.065 20,100 kbps 38,275 kbps 00:21:34.293 37,029 kbps 00:21:33.625 34,755 kbps 00:21:32.499 104,791 bytes 410,140 bytes 00:21:34.459
6 0:23:07.135 0:07:48.759 20,088 kbps 44,304 kbps 00:24:09.406 30,864 kbps 00:24:09.406 27,256 kbps 00:29:21.593 104,732 bytes 362,490 bytes 00:24:09.448
7 0:30:55.895 0:02:59.596 24,396 kbps 42,396 kbps 00:33:33.886 40,267 kbps 00:33:33.886 34,327 kbps 00:33:29.674 127,189 bytes 405,525 bytes 00:33:33.928
8 0:33:55.491 0:04:04.869 20,529 kbps 39,292 kbps 00:36:24.515 32,445 kbps 00:36:32.231 29,065 kbps 00:36:27.226 107,029 bytes 316,033 bytes 00:36:39.906
9 0:38:00.361 0:05:45.803 18,796 kbps 38,182 kbps 00:42:03.979 31,788 kbps 00:42:24.542 24,369 kbps 00:42:20.037 97,993 bytes 285,470 bytes 00:42:04.063
10 0:43:46.165 0:06:48.574 20,948 kbps 42,970 kbps 00:47:17.668 34,730 kbps 00:47:38.605 32,423 kbps 00:47:38.897 109,216 bytes 379,380 bytes 00:44:02.222
11 0:50:34.739 0:05:00.341 16,366 kbps 46,100 kbps 00:52:01.243 42,828 kbps 00:51:59.282 39,994 kbps 00:51:57.989 85,326 bytes 518,066 bytes 00:51:21.703
12 0:55:35.081 0:02:25.770 16,282 kbps 45,819 kbps 00:55:39.669 37,065 kbps 00:55:39.669 32,294 kbps 00:55:39.669 84,889 bytes 493,087 bytes 00:55:39.711
13 0:58:00.852 0:03:11.024 19,067 kbps 37,404 kbps 01:00:38.343 33,402 kbps 01:00:38.343 31,332 kbps 01:00:35.506 99,405 bytes 440,884 bytes 00:59:54.799
14 1:01:11.876 0:02:42.871 18,798 kbps 38,143 kbps 01:02:10.935 34,157 kbps 01:03:31.224 31,111 kbps 01:03:26.177 98,004 bytes 319,004 bytes 01:03:26.219
15 1:03:54.747 0:04:20.051 19,361 kbps 42,948 kbps 01:06:24.772 32,661 kbps 01:08:05.998 28,193 kbps 01:08:04.246 100,937 bytes 357,533 bytes 01:04:02.088
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17 1:10:38.567 0:02:40.743 17,300 kbps 28,681 kbps 01:11:00.297 27,488 kbps 01:10:57.044 25,228 kbps 01:10:55.668 90,192 bytes 436,439 bytes 01:13:19.311
18 1:13:19.311 0:05:50.224 22,071 kbps 44,530 kbps 01:14:03.272 41,217 kbps 01:13:59.601 33,891 kbps 01:13:58.976 115,071 bytes 362,143 bytes 01:15:10.506
19 1:19:09.536 0:02:58.553 22,637 kbps 41,186 kbps 01:20:04.716 33,578 kbps 01:19:39.149 28,985 kbps 01:19:39.024 118,018 bytes 369,562 bytes 01:19:50.160
20 1:22:08.089 0:02:53.756 22,286 kbps 37,945 kbps 01:22:30.028 32,859 kbps 01:23:27.544 30,166 kbps 01:23:24.958 116,187 bytes 289,016 bytes 01:22:46.252
21 1:25:01.846 0:04:37.902 21,616 kbps 46,073 kbps 01:25:38.883 33,576 kbps 01:25:34.921 31,954 kbps 01:26:06.119 112,696 bytes 330,310 bytes 01:26:19.799
22 1:29:39.749 0:04:43.741 23,624 kbps 46,111 kbps 01:32:28.417 41,176 kbps 01:32:25.373 36,292 kbps 01:32:20.409 123,167 bytes 308,096 bytes 01:32:13.694
23 1:34:23.491 0:01:37.096 19,232 kbps 31,234 kbps 01:34:31.791 27,016 kbps 01:35:42.153 26,836 kbps 01:35:42.153 100,266 bytes 316,021 bytes 01:34:48.224
24 1:36:00.588 0:08:03.649 9,321 kbps 33,977 kbps 01:36:19.315 32,415 kbps 01:43:41.506 28,978 kbps 01:36:11.390 48,598 bytes 371,173 bytes 01:42:11.834
25 1:44:04.237 0:00:01.001 69 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 374 bytes 482 bytes 01:44:04.363

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Bitrate: 19.81 mbps


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DISC INFO:

Disc Title: X-Men 3 2nd rls
Disc Size: 28,105,693,649 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00013.MPLS
Size: 22,331,344,896 bytes
Length: 1:44:05 (h:m:s)
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Description:

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Codec Bitrate Description
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AUDIO:

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Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

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Presentation Graphics Portuguese 30.612 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 35.000 kbps

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2 0:05:15.189 0:04:04.118 24,782 kbps 49,212 kbps 00:07:24.569 42,511 kbps 00:07:21.232 38,175 kbps 00:05:26.909 129,203 bytes 463,737 bytes 00:07:25.111
3 0:09:19.308 0:02:58.094 20,392 kbps 33,719 kbps 00:09:28.985 32,193 kbps 00:09:26.524 30,879 kbps 00:09:23.729 106,313 bytes 384,611 bytes 00:12:17.403
4 0:12:17.403 0:05:33.666 17,078 kbps 29,479 kbps 00:13:35.064 25,755 kbps 00:13:33.729 24,969 kbps 00:17:02.688 89,036 bytes 385,202 bytes 00:12:18.320
5 0:17:51.070 0:05:16.065 20,093 kbps 38,268 kbps 00:21:34.293 37,022 kbps 00:21:33.625 34,749 kbps 00:21:32.499 104,758 bytes 410,106 bytes 00:21:34.459
6 0:23:07.135 0:07:48.759 20,082 kbps 44,298 kbps 00:24:09.406 30,858 kbps 00:24:09.406 27,250 kbps 00:29:21.593 104,699 bytes 362,456 bytes 00:24:09.448
7 0:30:55.895 0:02:59.596 24,390 kbps 42,390 kbps 00:33:33.886 40,261 kbps 00:33:33.886 34,321 kbps 00:33:29.674 127,156 bytes 405,491 bytes 00:33:33.928
8 0:33:55.491 0:04:04.869 20,523 kbps 39,286 kbps 00:36:24.515 32,439 kbps 00:36:32.231 29,059 kbps 00:36:27.226 106,997 bytes 316,002 bytes 00:36:39.906
9 0:38:00.361 0:05:45.803 18,790 kbps 38,176 kbps 00:42:03.979 31,781 kbps 00:42:24.541 24,363 kbps 00:42:20.037 97,961 bytes 285,439 bytes 00:42:04.063
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11 0:50:34.740 0:05:00.341 16,360 kbps 46,093 kbps 00:52:01.243 42,822 kbps 00:51:59.282 39,987 kbps 00:51:57.989 85,293 bytes 518,035 bytes 00:51:21.703
12 0:55:35.081 0:02:25.770 16,276 kbps 45,813 kbps 00:55:39.669 37,059 kbps 00:55:39.669 32,288 kbps 00:55:39.669 84,857 bytes 493,056 bytes 00:55:39.711
13 0:58:00.852 0:03:11.024 19,060 kbps 37,398 kbps 01:00:38.343 33,396 kbps 01:00:38.343 31,325 kbps 01:00:35.506 99,372 bytes 440,853 bytes 00:59:54.799
14 1:01:11.876 0:02:42.871 18,792 kbps 38,137 kbps 01:02:10.935 34,151 kbps 01:03:31.224 31,105 kbps 01:03:26.177 97,972 bytes 318,970 bytes 01:03:26.219
15 1:03:54.747 0:04:20.051 19,354 kbps 42,941 kbps 01:06:24.772 32,654 kbps 01:08:05.998 28,187 kbps 01:08:04.246 100,905 bytes 357,499 bytes 01:04:02.088
16 1:08:14.799 0:02:23.768 19,497 kbps 50,850 kbps 01:09:52.438 37,685 kbps 01:09:51.562 31,809 kbps 01:09:51.061 101,649 bytes 421,473 bytes 01:09:36.964
17 1:10:38.567 0:02:40.743 17,293 kbps 28,675 kbps 01:11:00.297 27,482 kbps 01:10:57.044 25,222 kbps 01:10:55.668 90,160 bytes 436,405 bytes 01:13:19.311
18 1:13:19.311 0:05:50.224 22,065 kbps 44,524 kbps 01:14:03.272 41,210 kbps 01:13:59.601 33,885 kbps 01:13:58.976 115,038 bytes 362,109 bytes 01:15:10.506
19 1:19:09.536 0:02:58.553 22,631 kbps 41,180 kbps 01:20:04.716 33,571 kbps 01:19:39.149 28,979 kbps 01:19:39.024 117,986 bytes 369,531 bytes 01:19:50.160
20 1:22:08.089 0:02:53.756 22,279 kbps 37,939 kbps 01:22:30.028 32,852 kbps 01:23:27.544 30,160 kbps 01:23:24.958 116,154 bytes 288,985 bytes 01:22:46.252
21 1:25:01.846 0:04:37.902 21,610 kbps 46,067 kbps 01:25:38.883 33,570 kbps 01:25:34.921 31,948 kbps 01:26:06.119 112,663 bytes 330,279 bytes 01:26:19.799
22 1:29:39.749 0:04:43.950 23,602 kbps 46,105 kbps 01:32:28.417 41,169 kbps 01:32:25.373 36,285 kbps 01:32:20.409 123,048 bytes 308,062 bytes 01:32:13.694
23 1:34:23.699 0:01:36.888 19,265 kbps 31,227 kbps 01:34:31.791 27,010 kbps 01:35:42.153 26,830 kbps 01:35:42.153 100,437 bytes 315,990 bytes 01:34:48.224
24 1:36:00.588 0:08:04.650 9,296 kbps 33,971 kbps 01:36:19.315 32,409 kbps 01:43:41.506 28,971 kbps 01:36:11.390 48,470 bytes 371,142 bytes 01:42:11.834

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I love these threads. Thanks Xylon.

I love these threads. Thanks Xylon.

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A million thanks for doing these, Xylon. Your posts were the reason I upgraded to HD. :)

To my eyes both X1 & X2 look better than their D-theater version. Thanks Xylon.

Yet again- 20% to 40% empty discs.
Hollywood's authoring houses really need to be introduced to application called calculator.
Big dissapointment, even if movies look quite well.
Why Disney can do it right?

Andrew

The 1st and 2nd releases of X-Men 3 look identical, which I would have expected.

you should note xylon's file sizes are JUST the movie which can be confirmed by doing the math (even though doing the math for X3 original bluray gets a little higher than 20GB (more like 21GB) using xylon's listed total bitrate)

((seconds*total bitrate in mbps)*.125)/1024=file size in GB

The 1st and 2nd releases of X-Men 3 look identical, which I would have expected.

Even the particular grain pattern seems identical in those shots.

Interesting because some reviewers were claiming the new version is slightly better.

I believe X1 got a shinny new transfer :)

here are some more comparisons I made:
X1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4781/
X2: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4784/

I believe X1 got a shinny new transfer :)

here are some more comparisons I made:
X1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4781/
X2: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4784/

These are very nice. The Blu version looks so much better in this shot...even though the avg bitrate of the discs are so similar. I assume it was encoded higher at these type of scenes or it just something else inherently superior with the encoder?

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4784/#

These are very nice. The Blu version looks so much better in this shot...even though the avg bitrate of the discs are so similar. I assume it was encoded higher at these type of scenes or it just something else inherently superior with the encoder? Remember D-Theater is MPEG2 and the Blu-rays are AVC. And ya, more complex scenes receive higher bitates on Blu-ray. D-Theater will have a constant bitrate of 22mbits, no matter how easy or hard the scene is. Also, the MPEG2 DTheaters were encoded 5+ years ago, and the Blu-rays were encoded a few months ago most likely. Compression techniques improve all the time, even if its the same format.

Yet again- 20% to 40% empty discs.
Hollywood's authoring houses really need to be introduced to application called calculator.
Big dissapointment, even if movies look quite well.
Why Disney can do it right?

Andrew

Diminishing returns. You only need so much space for a stellar 1080p transfer.

Diminishing returns. You only need so much space for a stellar 1080p transfer.

Disc Title: X-Men 3 2nd rls
Disc Size: 28,105,693,649 bytes

Average bitrate about 19Mbit.

It doesn't make sense for me. In this case they should reduce bitrate and make it BD25.
Otherwise they should do "perfect" 40Mbit CBR encoding.


Andrew

I believe X1 got a shinny new transfer :)

here are some more comparisons I made:
X1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/4781/

Doesn't look much better. The BD is even zoomed in slightly in a few shots.

Doesn't look much better. The BD is even zoomed in slightly in a few shots.

The Blu-ray has much better color rendition with more defined film grain & detail. The D-theater looks very filtered.

The bluray of Xmen 1 looks jacked. I just finished watching it.

Some scenes look stellar, others have very poor black levels which results in a very muddy look.

There is also something odd going on with the aspect ratio. At times it feels like they screwed this up and you get very weird geometric distortions in some scenes. Such as when Logan tries to "escape" the school and is running around the mansion. Very odd.

The bluray of Xmen 1 looks jacked. I just finished watching it.

Some scenes look stellar, others have very poor black levels which results in a very muddy look.

There is also something odd going on with the aspect ratio. At times it feels like they screwed this up and you get very weird geometric distortions in some scenes. Such as when Logan tries to "escape" the school and is running around the mansion. Very odd.

I think this "distortion" is in the original theatrical and DVD release; I would bet that it's intentional, meant to mirror the strange and skewed perspective Wolverine is experiencing from Xavier messing around with his mind.

Xylon, I think you meant to type X-Men: The Last Stand for post #6.

The Blu-ray has much better color rendition with more defined film grain & detail. The D-theater looks very filtered.

Both are way too soft for my taste but at least the BD has no blocking artifacts.

Xylon, I think you meant to type X-Men: The Last Stand for post #6.

Fixed

To my eyes both X1 & X2 look better than their D-theater version. Thanks Xylon.

As it should be. No extra DNR applied. No laziness.

Disc Title: X-Men 3 2nd rls
Disc Size: 28,105,693,649 bytes

Average bitrate about 19Mbit.

It doesn't make sense for me. In this case they should reduce bitrate and make it BD25.
Otherwise they should do "perfect" 40Mbit CBR encoding.


Andrew

I heard a rumor the upcoming Lawrence of Arabia Blu-ray will use CBR instead of VBR and will take up 10 discs ;)

Both are way too soft for my taste but at least the BD has no blocking artifacts.

X-Men is supposed to be soft or should I say it always has been, filmmakers don't make movies to please someone with sharpness :rolleyes:

-Gary

to be fair a constant 40mbps for X3 would be about 30.49GB for the video

a 40mbps encode for Lawrence of Arabia would be 66.8GB for the video (at the longest runtime listed on imdb)... hardly 10 discs even with audio...

to be fair a constant 40mbps for X3 would be about 30.49GB for the video

a 40mbps encode for Lawrence of Arabia would be 66.8GB for the video (at the longest runtime listed on imdb)... hardly 10 discs even with audio...

If they ever bring out that seemingly forgotten about 75gb Blu Ray disc then films like Lawrence and Dances With Wolves and all the other long films could be better served ( i think )

I wish people would stop saying films look soft when they have not been tampered with by the studio's. It's things like that which result in studio's adding their sharpening and we end up with annoying EE.

I say the above because studio's have employees working for them that do actually hang out at forums like this and i'd rather they didn't get it in their heads that sharpening is needed for HD movies.

I wish people would stop saying films look soft when they have not been tampered with by the studio's. It's things like that which result in studio's adding their sharpening and we end up with annoying EE.



Agreed.

I wish people would stop saying films look soft when they have not been tampered with by the studio's. It's things like that which result in studio's adding their sharpening and we end up with annoying EE.


Couldn't agree more.

To be fair, I noticed some very slight EE in X-2. But it's more than bearable!

I heard a rumor the upcoming Lawrence of Arabia Blu-ray will use CBR instead of VBR and will take up 10 discs ;)

You will be laughing (or not) when they will do it and video is going to be 8Mbit, becuase they will leave 40% space on BD50 :)
Your grabs shows a lot, but also there is missing key point- you have no acces to uncompressed source, so you can't fully judge quality of the transfer.

Give me any reasonable argument to have 28GB disc size and vidoe at 19Mbit??
You either go for 25GB to have BD25 or use as high bitrate as possible to fill up the disc. It doesn't cost more, even takes less time and it's easier to do at high bitrate- less tweaking.

I wouldn't be happy as a client for such a encoding- it doesn't make any sense for me (unless they've used existing encode).



Andrew

Andrew_HD,

1. FOX didn't have the need / desire(??) to re-encode.
2. Maybe, they wanted to save space for accommodating boat load of dubs and subs in the overseas release which they didn't as some geographies got DTS-HD HiRes audio instead of DTS-HD MA despite featuring similar count of dubs and subs like the U.S release.

The only good thing FOX did is to make the U.K BDs Region Free.

If they ever bring out that seemingly forgotten about 75gb Blu Ray disc then films like Lawrence and Dances With Wolves and all the other long films could be better served ( i think )

hopefully they will before they get the LotR extended editions on bluray

i want the movie on a single disc while maintaining respectable bitrate

but without hd dvd threatening to one up them with a 51GB disc i think they lost all motivation to get those triple and quad layer discs ready for duplication

hopefully they will before they get the LotR extended editions on bluray

i want the movie on a single disc while maintaining respectable bitrate

but without hd dvd threatening to one up them with a 51GB disc i think they lost all motivation to get those triple and quad layer discs ready for duplication

or it's possible those 3 layer discs for both companies were complete BS used to fuel the format war.

X-Men is supposed to be soft or should I say it always has been, filmmakers don't make movies to please someone with sharpness :rolleyes:

So I guess no one adjusts the focus on the set, right? ;)

I have no problem with films being soft if the actual film looks that way. I just don't like softness when it's the result of an old transfer or filtering like Warner does.

X-Men is supposed to be soft or should I say it always has been, filmmakers don't make movies to please someone with sharpness :rolleyes:

-Gary


I wish people would stop saying films look soft when they have not been tampered with by the studio's. It's things like that which result in studio's adding their sharpening and we end up with annoying EE.

I say the above because studio's have employees working for them that do actually hang out at forums like this and i'd rather they didn't get it in their heads that sharpening is needed for HD movies.

So true. I've loved the D-Theater encodes for years, and now own the BD's which are a significant improvement, and very faithful. I couldn't be more pleased.

hopefully they will before they get the LotR extended editions on bluray

i want the movie on a single disc while maintaining respectable bitrate

but without hd dvd threatening to one up them with a 51GB disc i think they lost all motivation to get those triple and quad layer discs ready for duplication


So now... 50GB isn't enough space for a movie?
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I just have to ask...
Is there ever anything that makes some of you people happy?
A lot of the usual suspects seem to exist, in thread after thread, solely to complain about the same stupid minutia... warranted or imaginary. Is there any proof that there is anything wrong with any one of these three titles?

Kram Sacul, I'm going to call you out... Do you ever like ANYTHING? You have got to be one of the most critical/negative people I've ever encountered. In looking over two pages of your previous posts, it was a chore to find you say something positive about almost anything. Anybody as disappointed in Blu-ray as you clearly (and repeatedly) are should probably find another hobby since the standards of the format are so clearly below those of your own. What evidence do you have that Fox softened the HD transfer used for the Blu-ray? That's essentially what you're saying, aren't you? If you have proof, I'm all ears. I also found both X-Men and X2 to be softer than I was expecting them to be, but I could see nothing to convince me it was anything other than the visual characteristic of both films. Somehow you apparently have more insight into these films... I'm all ears. You were complaining that it looked soft and that you don't like softness when it's the result of a new transfer, but you also commented that there looked to be some slight zooming in the shots eric.exe posted compared to the D-Theater. So what is it, a new transfer or the same old one from the D-Theater? (or maybe just the most obvious answer... that might be how the film looks natively). I remember going to see Talladega Nights opening night at the Cinerama Dome and being really surprised by how many shots in the film were flat out out of focus. Quite a lot actually for a big budget studio production.



Give me any reasonable argument to have 28GB disc size and vidoe at 19Mbit??
You either go for 25GB to have BD25 or use as high bitrate as possible to fill up the disc. It doesn't cost more, even takes less time and it's easier to do at high bitrate- less tweaking.

I wouldn't be happy as a client for such a encoding- it doesn't make any sense for me (unless they've used existing encode).
I'll give a reasonable argument...
It didn't need more. I see nothing in any of your posts about there being anything to your eyes visually wrong with these discs/encodes, yet you call them disappointments. If there's nothing wrong with the end result, how do manage to pervert logic into creating the rationale to label them as disappointments?

Andrew_HD, what do you do for a living? I'm genuinely interested. I'm also interested in whether or not you have people who don't know you or anything at all about the work you do, who go online and publicly bash what you do every day, even if you're doing it correctly.


I'm sorry for making this all sound so emotional, but I actually work with the people who do this stuff. I like them. They work hard to make these things great. They work nights. They work weekends. They actually care about these things (and if you don't think the encoders are the pickiest of the bunch, you're sorely mistaken). Yeah, sometimes mistakes happen. Sometimes there are circumstances or decisions that are out of their control. But don't ever for a second label them as lazy or incompetent. They're neither (and that goes for most of the studio people I know, as well).

There's a reason people like Robert Harris don't post here anymore. They didn't run off... They we're run off. There's nothing more annoying or completely useless than "Mark - the computer analyst from Vancouver" telling you how much smarter and better they are at work you've been doing for sometimes decades just because they got an anonymous AVS screen name and have amassed 5,000 useless posts. Some people are so busy talking they don’t have the good sense to shut the **** up, listen to what someone smarter than they are is saying, and actually learn something.

And for the record, I don't know who specifically did the encodes for the X-Men discs, I'm speaking very broadly because it seems, if you read AVS regularly, that there is no such thing as a perfect Blu-ray disc. I must be a real simpleton, because I actually enjoy quite a lot of them.

So now... 50GB isn't enough space for a movie?


I'll give a reasonable argument...
It didn't need more. I see nothing in any of your posts about there being anything to your eyes visually wrong with these discs/encodes, yet you call them disappointments. If there's nothing wrong with the end result, how do manage to pervert logic into creating the rationale to label them as disappointments?

Andrew_HD, what do you do for a living? I'm genuinely interested. I'm also interested in whether or not you have people who don't know you or anything at all about the work you do, who go online and publicly bash what you do every day, even if you're doing it correctly.


I'm sorry for making this all sound so emotional, but I actually work with the people who do this stuff. I like them. They work hard to make these things great. They work nights. They work weekends. They actually care about these things (and if you don't think the encoders are the pickiest of the bunch, you're sorely mistaken). Yeah, sometimes mistakes happen. Sometimes there are circumstances or decisions that are out of their control. But don't ever for a second label them as lazy or incompetent. They're neither (and that goes for most of the studio people I know, as well).

There's a reason people like Robert Harris don't post here anymore. They didn't run off... They we're run off. There's nothing more annoying or completely useless than "Mark - the computer analyst from Vancouver" telling you how much smarter and better they are at work you've been doing for sometimes decades just because they got an anonymous AVS screen name and have amassed 5,000 useless posts. Some people are so busy talking they don’t have the good sense to shut the **** up, listen to what someone smarter than they are is saying, and actually learn something.

And for the record, I don't know who specifically did the encodes for the X-Men discs, I'm speaking very broadly because it seems, if you read AVS regularly, that there is no such thing as a perfect Blu-ray disc. I must be a real simpleton, because I actually enjoy quite a lot of them.


I've been doing encodes every day for last 4 years and I spent all my time to tweak them and make them as good as possible and 28GB disc makes no sense for me .
X-Men does look good, but going from 19Mbit to eg. 30Mbit would make it better (not a lot, but it would- there is no magic) and still there would be a space for the other audio tracks or extras.

Look at Disney releases- they can do it "perfect" (in most cases).


Andrew

Kram Sacul, I'm going to call you out... Do you ever like ANYTHING? You have got to be one of the most critical/negative people I've ever encountered. In looking over two pages of your previous posts, it was a chore to find you say something positive about almost anything. Anybody as disappointed in Blu-ray as you clearly (and repeatedly) are should probably find another hobby since the standards of the format are so clearly below those of your own.

I might have to agree with you except I find nothing wrong with the format itself. The standard has been set really high with certain titles but for every title done right (Poltergeist, The Princess Bride, Pinnochio) there seems to be about 10 that are horribly wrong or have some silly flaws(The Arrival, Truman Show, Fargo, French Connection*, Friday the 13th, etc) and the rest fall in the mediocre or just okay category(Pitch Black, Batman, Silence of the Lambs etc). It's like this with every new format though. It's just that with HD the practice of recycling less than stellar transfers from years ago is even more obvious.

What evidence do you have that Fox softened the HD transfer used for the Blu-ray? That's essentially what you're saying, aren't you? If you have proof, I'm all ears. I also found both X-Men and X2 to be softer than I was expecting them to be, but I could see nothing to convince me it was anything other than the visual characteristic of both films. Somehow you apparently have more insight into these films... I'm all ears. You were complaining that it looked soft and that you don't like softness when it's the result of a new transfer, but you also commented that there looked to be some slight zooming in the shots eric.exe posted compared to the D-Theater. So what is it, a new transfer or the same old one from the D-Theater? (or maybe just the most obvious answer... that might be how the film looks natively).

It's obviously a different and probably newer transfer than what was used for the D-Theater. The BD has highlights that aren't blown out, different geometry, different framing, more neutral whites, etc. Personally I don't think filtering is the cause of it being soft. Like others have said it's most likely the film element and how it was shot but I still think the quality of the transfer isn't as good as it could've been. It's not like we're talking about a film from the 1970s.

I'll give a reasonable argument...
It didn't need more. I see nothing in any of your posts about there being anything to your eyes visually wrong with these discs/encodes, yet you call them disappointments. If there's nothing wrong with the end result, how do manage to pervert logic into creating the rationale to label them as disappointments?

I commented on X1 on BD and DVHS. I've seen the DVHS version. It was soft and IMO lackluster. From the screen captures the BD looks to be only a tiny bit better when it comes to definition. So yeah, I'm a little disappointed. I thought there would be a bigger difference. I also feel the same way about X2 but I guess it gets a pass since it's clearly the same transfer from years ago.

This forum or this *PIX* threads is not the place we sing "Kumbaya" to the studios or "insiders". I believe some people should know this by now. When we see a piece of crap shoved down to consumers we will call it like it is. No one is spared. Everyone including people claiming its a work of art instead of a piece of trash. They must never make criticism to their opinions as a personal attack. Claiming to be an "insider" is not a shield from a enthusiast forum.

If they can't take the heat what good are they here then?

could be the anamorphic lens zooming unzooming...
its the same effect you will get with LENS GLARE with anammorphic lenses... glares will look distorted or "oblong" in shape...

but i could be wrong cause i'm not sure if X1 was shot on anamorphic lens ?


The bluray of Xmen 1 looks jacked. I just finished watching it.

Some scenes look stellar, others have very poor black levels which results in a very muddy look.

There is also something odd going on with the aspect ratio. At times it feels like they screwed this up and you get very weird geometric distortions in some scenes. Such as when Logan tries to "escape" the school and is running around the mansion. Very odd.

This forum or this *PIX* threads is not the place we sing "Kumbaya" to the studios or "insiders". I believe some people should know this by now. When we see a piece of crap shoved down to consumers we will call it like it is. No one is spared. Everyone including people claiming its a work of art instead of a piece of trash. They must never make criticism to their opinions as a personal attack. Claiming to be an "insider" is not a shield from a enthusiast forum.

If they can't take the heat what good are they here then?

What are you so irritated about? I wasn't pointing my comments at you or your *PIX* threads (I actually find them rather interesting and love to see them), nor was I insisting on any sort of sing along. I was commenting on an increasingly destructive situation around the forum in general. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "just knowledgeable enough to be dangerous?" That's what I'm referring to. There's a lot of information around here that is nothing more than incorrect/unresearched opinion that gets presented as fact or pseudo-fact. And there's a lot of people around this forum who only know what they know from what they've read other people post. It's like a diseased version of Telephone, except it's not a sentence getting twisted along the way, it's facts.

I'm not saying people needed to be protected from criticism... I'm saying people need to be a bit more careful that when they criticize something, it should probably be true and warranted. People shouldn't criticize the work done on a title because they don't like how sharp the movie actually is or because they "assume" a full disc equates to a better picture. It's like the same people who report that DTS-MA is better sounding than PCM or TrueHD when anyone with a small amount of focus and brain power realizes that the end result should be the same no matter what.

If there's a problem with a release, people should say so (and loudly), but there are a lot of people who I have come to realize aren't nearly as knowledgeable as their reputations would have you believe. There's somebody very well respected around these parts who I recently discovered completely didn't understand the basics of how something in particular was photographed to tape/film, yet had an absolute and definitive opinion on how it should be presented on disc. How can you have a definitive opinion on the presentation of something when you don't understand the fundamentals of how it was created? I've had people tell me I was wrong about things I was in the room to hear the correct answer for.

In other words, there's a lot of "wolf" that gets cried out around here.

And by the way, the only reason anyone would need a shield is if they are under attack. Is that the kind of interaction you guys crave?

^^^^Great post.:)

I'm sorry for making this all sound so emotional, but I actually work with the people who do this stuff. I like them. They work hard to make these things great. They work nights. They work weekends. They actually care about these things (and if you don't think the encoders are the pickiest of the bunch, you're sorely mistaken). Yeah, sometimes mistakes happen. Sometimes there are circumstances or decisions that are out of their control. But don't ever for a second label them as lazy or incompetent. They're neither (and that goes for most of the studio people I know, as well).



Can you please ask your friends to get the studio's to pay up for new masters on ALL future HD releases as i feel a lot of problems people see on catalog titles on Blu Ray is because an old Master baked in DNR or EE is used for the Blu Ray.

If you have any friends working for New Line then please ask them to lay off the DNR tools.

Lastly i think perhaps you may be too close and may be too emotionally attached to the subject matter and if i am reading your post correctly you actually work in the business.

I do actually agree regarding your wolf statement but who knows maybe you consider me someone who cries wolf ( I don't know just a thought )

For example i wasn't totally happy with The Silence Of The Lambs and said so at the time but i also didn't consider it a major issue thing and also said at the time that a lot of people will enjoy that transfer and it was still watchable. Indeed i believe Robert Harris who you quote more or less said the same thing as i said.

What annoys me more than anything is people coming onto the boards and saying the film looks soft when it's an anamorphic production and yet some of these same people don't come onto the boards complaining about edge enhancement because they obvously think the film looks sharp. Those people need educated and need to listen more.

Oh and regarding your post on disc sizes. Yes Lawrence Of Arabia could fit easily on a 50gigabyte and should look great but if the technology allows then i don't see an issue with 75 gigabyte discs. Why not have an additional 25 gigs so that more bits can be thrown at difficult scenes in very long movies.

Both are way too soft for my taste but at least the BD has no blocking artifacts.

I bet the HD DVD version is the obligatory "tad bit sharper"...oh wait, there is no HD DVD comparison on this one.:p;)

Can you please ask your friends to get the studio's to pay up for new masters on ALL future HD releases as i feel a lot of problems people see on catalog titles on Blu Ray is because an old Master baked in DNR or EE is used for the Blu Ray.


I don't realistically expect this to happen, but, as a result, my practice is now to buy very, very few catalog releases on BD.

My guess is, in some cases, studios are using older masters for catalogs which have excessive processing baked into them as Foxy mentioned. I don't think the studios want to spend the money - especially in these economic times - to pay for new masters of titles which probably won't sell real well anyway. There are exceptions especially with bigger titles, of course, but I think this is sometimes the case. On the other hand, I think in many cases a lot of titles are never going to look great despite not having EE and DNR just due to the nature of how they were shot.

In regards to the X-men films - I've only seen the third version which looks very film-like, but I haven't seen X1 and X2 yet. However, based on what I've seen from the screenshots, I think Fox did a nice job and I don't see any issues. I will be picking these up at some point.

Well done to Fox then, X3 did not need a new transfer (runt of the litter as it it)

Is it worth to pay extra for the new X3 or just keep the older version?

Is it worth to pay extra for the new X3 or just keep the older version?

Keep the existing BD if you aren't a fan of extras.

Is it worth to pay extra for the new X3 or just keep the older version?

Well if it goes on sale . . . .

But they are the same encode.

Blu-ray looks better than the D-Theater version. Fewer artifacts sharper image. As it should be.

X- Men: The Last Stand both releases identical. Same encode. Any "pro" reviewer saying otherwise, well why don't you guys pass that around here. I may need some of that ;)

This is one reason why I like your comparisons so much - you can verify and decide for yourself. I think I've read about three reviews claiming the new X3 release looks better. You really can't trust these guys when it comes to making an informed decision on a purchase.

I'm not saying people needed to be protected from criticism... I'm saying people need to be a bit more careful that when they criticize something, it should probably be true and warranted.
You are absolutely spot on here, however this statement applies to not just the critics but also to the critics of the critics.

Anyway, thanks for the specs postings and pix thus far Xylon. This set is definitely on my radar to pickup, although I'll likely wait a bit to see if any better deals come around since it would be a double-dip from the DVDs for me.

I'm feeling a bit nostalgic all of a sudden :)

Brandon

BTW the individual movies are $16.99 each at Fry's.

Ends today.

Or if you have the Fry's ad pricematch it at Best Buy.

I just bought a 25.5" monitor and I can see a clear difference between DT and BD X-Men and X2 shots now. Wasn't so clear on older equipment.

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http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/th_e5b49b1b.png (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/e5b49b1b.png)http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/th_b90d81d5.png (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/b90d81d5.png)http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/th_6e28350d.png (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/6e28350d.png)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/e5b49b1b.png
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/b90d81d5.png
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/X-Men/6e28350d.png

The Wolverine eyes pic shows how good the dvd really was !
And the nightcrawler pic shows how good the BRD is !

Question: should I keep including the spoiler-tagged images or are external links preferred?

Before I continue with V for Vendetta and start on Constantine HD DVD vs Blu-ray, I want to pause and highlight what VC-1 at high bitrates is capable of.

I'll also be comparing Blu-ray US vs UK for the X-Men Trilogy whenever I get around to watching them.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/170/51xaasykk7lss400.jpghttp://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5044/dtsbluraydemodisc2008f.jpg

30.14Mbps AVC - Blu-ray - Fox - United Kingdom
35.48Mbps VC-1 - Blu-ray - DTS - 2008 High Definition Audio Demonstration Disc (http://www.demo-world.eu/demo-dvds/dts-blu-ray-demo-disc-2008.php)
= 5.34Mbps difference

The bitrate of the UK Blu-ray is the average over the whole movie since I'm not sure how to measure for just this scene.

Bitrate graphs for just the scene
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4833/x3ukdemoscene1sec.pnghttp://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3641/x3ukdemoscenesizes.png
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4282/x3dtshddemo1sec.pnghttp://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1503/x3dtshddemosizes.png
Mouseovers here (http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/11728/) | ImageShack gallery here (http://img90.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=046241.png)

http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-24_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-24_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-25_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-25_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-26_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-26_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-27_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-27_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-54_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-46-54_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-47-31_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/ukdts/0-47-31_2.png
Both are very impressive reproductions of this highly detailed and grainy master. :)

Most of the time during playback, the VC-1 is slightly "mushier" but it's really a very small difference. And I don't want to make too much of it since this is from an AUDIO demonstration disc. :D

Most of the time during playback, the VC-1 is slightly "mushier" but it's really a very small difference. And I don't want to make too much of it since this is from an AUDIO demonstration disc. :D
Pic #3 makes this more pronounced IMHO (I've only looked at #1 through #3). Notice how #3 is softer, despite having a larger frame size.

I'll take the one with the finer grain.

I hope the difference with Fight Club is as evident.

Art

Most of the time during playback, the VC-1 is slightly "mushier" but it's really a very small difference. And I don't want to make too much of it since this is from an AUDIO demonstration disc. :D
The Fox Encode does define the grain a bit better, just slightly, but it is noticeable in those screen shots...I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in playback though.

I would recommend a Starship Troopers comparison but it looks like sony used an inferior master, parts of it might be good though.

msgohan can you keep the spoiler pics and the external links?

I would recommend a Starship Troopers comparison but it looks like sony used an inferior master, parts of it might be good though.

msgohan can you keep the spoiler pics and the external links?

There is more grain in the Sony version of Starship Troopers.

The UK (H.264) version beats the DTS-HD demo disc in comparisons #1 (only minutely), #3 (decent margin), #4 (again a decent margin) and #6 (grain is more finely retained).

On the other hand, the DTS-HD demo disc totally destroys the UK version in cap #2.

Comparison #5, for all intents and purposes, is identical. I could nitpick, but nearly 99% of the frame is the same (minus the vertical shifting).

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9003/5152utsc9klsl500aa240.jpghttp://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1069/51bjetjceqlsl500aa240.jpg

30.189Mbps AVC | Blu-ray | Fox | United States
27.993Mbps AVC | Blu-ray | Fox | United Kingdom
= 2.196Mbps difference

US bitrate and frame size/type graphs
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/668/xmenus00013bitrate01s.pnghttp://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5151/xmenus00013framesize.png
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4286/xmenus00013frametypecou.pnghttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8319/xmenus00013frametypesiz.png
UK bitrate and frame size/type graphs
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7141/xmenuk00001bitrate01s.pnghttp://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7444/xmenuk00001framesize.png
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9573/xmenukframetypecount.pnghttp://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5989/xmenuk00001frametypesiz.png
PiP window video (480p23.976): http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/992/xmenukpip00001bitrate01.png
Screencap comparison - Mouseovers here (http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13212/) (click Stop on this thread to not waste time downloading from both servers)
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-03-22_A.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-03-22_B.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-04-49_A.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-04-49_B.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-29-22_A.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-29-22_B.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-52-51_A.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/0-52-51_B.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/1-34-00_A.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen1comp/1-34-00_B.png
Frankly, the screencaps are a waste of space and bandwidth. There's no way to tell these two encodes apart during playback.

They must have been created by the same software at about the same time. Look at the graphs (easier to see if you open them in new tabs). All they did was lower the ceiling for the UK encode, shifting the max and average frame sizes downwards.

Some X3 US vs UK comparisons (not mine): http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13213/

There's no way to tell these two encodes apart during playback.

I think that was my conclusion when I eye-balled all 3. The extras on the 2nd discs for all three are the same. The UK set does have some extras I still can't figure out.:o

Do you have comparisons for #3?

Not even gonna waste everyone's time with X2: X-Men United. It's the same deal as the first movie except the UK version is the higher bitrate one for X2. Though some frames are actually larger on the US encode.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2104/51otyhgosclsl500aa240.jpghttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7122/51qan8ooeclsl500aa240.jpg

19.81Mbps AVC | Blu-ray | Fox | United States
30.15Mbps AVC | Blu-ray | Fox | United Kingdom
= 10.34Mbps difference

US bitrate and frame size/type graphs
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9913/x3us00002bitrate01s.pnghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5259/x3us00002framesize.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9246/x3us00002frametypecount.pnghttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3708/x3us00002frametypesize.png
UK bitrate and frame size/type graphs
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/147/x3ukbitrate01s.pnghttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4500/x3ukframesize.png
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3774/x3ukframetypecount.pnghttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8802/x3ukframetypesize.png
PiP window video (480p23.976): http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4324/x3ukpipbitrate01s.png
Screencap comparison - Mouseovers here (http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13230/) (click Stop on this thread to not waste time downloading from both servers)
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-00-10_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-00-10_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-00-26_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-00-26_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-06-09_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-06-09_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-24-21_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-24-21_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-47-17_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/0-47-17_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-07-29_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-07-29_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-27-41_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-27-41_2.png
http://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-31-47_1.pnghttp://chidragon.thedessie.com/bdcomp/xmen3comp/1-31-47_2.png
Note the lowered horizontal resolution of the Fox logo on the UK encode. Not sure why that is.

Overall the UK encode is clearly superior, but since it has lower peaks, some frames occasionally look better on the US encode.

Thank you very much for the comparisons msgohan. ;)

It's about the same impressions I had while switching the discs back and forth.

I coulnd't tell 1 and 2 apart, but on the third I'd give a slight edge to the UK version.

Actually, I used the brazilian discs instead of the US ones. But they are identical in this case (mirrors of each other). The only difference is that the Brz version is pressed in Austria, like the UK, so it has finer disc label printing.

Yep, the UK Last Stand disc is slightly better, finer grain and a tad more detail.

My initial impressions were spot on. I assumed X3 was resolving the grain better, but I wasn't even a little sure. I'm actually surprised that the difference is that noticeable in those caps.:eek: