i checked amazon, walmart, and hubbs. this game is a launch title...it didn't sell very well...resistance was a launch title, it can be had for 20. i haven't played heavenly sword. but i'm certain that it being a launch title, that the game should not be anymore than 30

You can rent it for $8 and beat it in about 6 hours.

this game is a launch title

It wasn't. If the price bothers you, buy it on ebay. Tons of games should have lower prices but they don't.

the price wouldn't bother me if it was newer game with great replay value

my mistake, this wasn't a launch title. still, two years is a long time

i wouldn't even play it. i'm a collector as well as a gamer

Ah, I see. I agree that the price should be lower. Uncharted should be lower as well, even though that is a really good game.

the price wouldn't bother me if it was newer game with great replay valueif the price bothers you, don't buy it. :rolleyes:

otherwise, pick up a used copy from ebay or amazon. you should be able to find it for ~$20.

yeah do what i did and just rent it over a weekend and beat it in 2 days... not worth buying..

video game collector? Whats the point of buying something if your not going to use and enjoy it? Even then, I only keep things around if I feel it will bring me some sense of nostalgia when I pull it out of a box 30 years from now.

But if you really need it in order to fill that giant void between HAZE and Hot Shots Golf, why not just wait until its for sale for 25 cents on half.com?

FYI, Heavenly Sword is on clearance at Sears for $19.97. The game might have a full price sticker on it, but when it's scanned at the register the clearance price will come up.

video game collector? Whats the point of buying something if your not going to use and enjoy it? Even then, I only keep things around if I feel it will bring me some sense of nostalgia when I pull it out of a box 30 years from now.

But if you really need it in order to fill that giant void between HAZE and Hot Shots Golf, why not just wait until its for sale for 25 cents on half.com?

you have to be one in order to understand

a lot of the game i've bought, i buy second copies of. i keep them sealed...i don't want a used copy of this game. i want a sealed one. i suppose i'll have to wait until the end of this generation for heavenly sword to come down.

tell me something, do you know what a sealed copy of final fantasy VII goes for?:D

I'll admit I haven't replayed it, but I thought it was a lot of fun and a great game! I too have wondered why it's still full price when I browse Walmart's game case.

you have to be one in order to understand

a lot of the game i've bought, i buy second copies of. i keep them sealed...i don't want a used copy of this game. i want a sealed one. i suppose i'll have to wait until the end of this generation for heavenly sword to come down.

tell me something, do you know what a sealed copy of final fantasy VII goes for?:D

FF7 is considered one of the best RPGs of all time and is easily the most storied of the FF series. It's also a game you'll probably end up running through more than once. Heavenly Sword is a game you can finish in 5-8 hours with zero replay value. Also, the game ended up being a much weaker version of God of War and received lukewarm, disappointing reviews. Unless the game receives some cult following as a "misunderstood work of art" like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus (I have beaten it and I can attest that it certainly won't), Heavenly Sword really has no place in a collection of sealed games.

The game goes on sale periodically. On Black Friday they had it for $19.99 on Amazon (i got it then, but it was still $59.99 eveywhere new, 16 months after release), and I think that an occational Gold Box event has it on sale as well. Overall, I would agree that I am a little disappointed with PS3 game pricing in general, as thier 1st party games rarely are on sale, even a long time after release and even then get slightly discounted. I am still waiting for Drakes, LBP and MGS to hit the sub $20.

FF7 is considered one of the best RPGs of all time and is easily the most storied of the FF series. It's also a game you'll probably end up running through more than once. Heavenly Sword is a game you can finish in 5-8 hours with zero replay value. Also, the game ended up being a much weaker version of God of War and received lukewarm, disappointing reviews. Unless the game receives some cult following as a "misunderstood work of art" like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus (I have beaten it and I can attest that it certainly won't), Heavenly Sword really has no place in a collection of sealed games.

that's not the point

i'm just a collector

i don't collect ALL games. i just pick and choose for my collection. some are a must...metal gear solids, final fantasy titles, gears of war, halo...things like that

my mistake, this wasn't a launch title. still, two years is a long time

Well..you're getting closer, but we're still 5 months away from it being out for 2 years.

Alot of PS3 exclusives tend to stay high priced for a while. Unchartered is still pricey, as is Ratchet and Clank. Hell, Resistance 1 only dropped substantially when the sequel came out, and that WAS a launch game.

Seems to be a trend with most exclusives; Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is still sitting at $50. Ridiculous.

Originally posted by Myth
it didn't sell very well
According to some estimates, it sold over 1.3 million copies. I liked the game and was hoping the developers would make a sequel, but maybe not if 1.3 million isn't a lot.

I don't get how people can complain about game pricing this generation. I own 30 disc based games for the ps3 and have paid over $45 new for maybe 5 of them. Most I have picked up for far less than that. Here are some of the new prices I've paid Uncharted $20, Valk Chron $30, Guitarhero IV $44, RB2 $44, LBP $40, Buzz $40, End war w/BT $40, Folklore $20, Stranglehold SE $20, Fallout3 $40, Burnout $20, I could go on but I can't remember all of them without staring really hard at them. Even new releases usually are usually available on amazon or other online outlets for $55 or less the first week and $10+ off by 3 months out. Unless you are the kind that has to reserve a copy at Gamestop and pick it up midnight of release you shouldn't have to pay full price.

I don't get how people can complain about game pricing this generation. I own 30 disc based games for the ps3 and have paid over $45 new for maybe 5 of them. Most I have picked up for far less than that. Here are some of the new prices I've paid Uncharted $20, Valk Chron $30, Guitarhero IV $44, RB2 $44, LBP $40, Buzz $40, End war w/BT $40, Folklore $20, Stranglehold SE $20, Fallout3 $40, Burnout $20, I could go on but I can't remember all of them without staring really hard at them. Even new releases usually are usually available on amazon or other online outlets for $55 or less the first week and $10+ off by 3 months out. Unless you are the kind that has to reserve a copy at Gamestop and pick it up midnight of release you shouldn't have to pay full price.

I guess it is all relative. The only games that I have bought at launch have been the big hyped games, that have multiplayer and then only when I have gotten a significant discount. I got Halo 3, Bioshock, GTA4, Mass Effect, GoW 1-2, CoD4, CoD5 all for $39.99-$44.99 at launch for example. I have well over 100 games, but the majority I have paid between $10-$15 new. I just bought 8 games today from best buy, all were $9.99. With that said, I (personnally) do not feel compelled to buy games that cost $39-$59 that have been released over 1 year ago, and certainly not that price when there is only a single player campaign. My reasoning is that multiplayer games will have many people playing within the 1st few months and then fizzle, thus getting it a launch makes sense since many of my friends will be playing it. But single player games will offer the same gameplay experience even years latter, thus I wait for the significant discount. Like I mentioned above, I am willing to pay a 'premium' and get Drakes, R&C, MGS, Heavenly Sword (I got that one recently) for under $20, but I have yet to see that price. They are still close to the $30 range when on sale, thus I will keep waiting.

they're really slacking this gen when it comes to correctly pricing games. for one, they shouldn't cost sixty dollars. well, games that are heavy in terms of paid dlc shouldn't, anyway.

tell me something, do you know what a sealed copy of final fantasy VII goes for?:D
- I'd rather invest in stocks. :)

- I'd rather invest in stocks. :)

His point is that this is what he likes and his complaint about a game that was a pretty big disappoint is correct. It should be priced lower by now without the need to go hunting for deals. I should be able to walk into Best Buy and get that game for around 30 bucks by now. I'm not saying the game sucks or anything as it's at least entertaining but to be priced just below new release games is a bit absurd.

I'm a collector as well but I will collect used and opened games as there are very few I deem worthy of keeping sealed. Saying that I won't purchase that game until I can go it Best Buy and get it for under 30 bucks, maybe not even then.

Heavenly Sword would be a strange game for a true game collector to go out of their way for. It doesn't have any of the typical traits of a collectible game. It wasn't a region-specific release. It didn't have any collector's editions. It wasn't a cult hit. It wasn't a quirky release. And so on. It was just a mediocre title that sold decently well and was decently reviewed. There are many copies in circulation. It's still in print. It's not particularly desirable.

Strange title to feel compelled to "collect." You really should only buy it if you want to play it. Otherwise, it's not valuable, and probably won't be in the future.

they're really slacking this gen when it comes to correctly pricing games. for one, they shouldn't cost sixty dollars. well, games that are heavy in terms of paid dlc shouldn't, anyway.That's one way to think about it. But the other way is from a developer's perspective: most games these days don't pull a profit (~20% of released titles actually make money). From that standpoint, games are ridiculously cheap and most are sold at great financial loss.

I remember buying Virtua Racer for the Genesis new at Best Buy for $70. I've always been surprised that game prices have hovered around the same price for as long as they have. Most thing in the entertainment industry (movies, etc) have gone up.

I paid $35-$40 for Pitfall on the Atari at KayBee Toys several years after the game had come out, there was no discounting games as they aged. Until Sony started the Greatest Hits collection games rarely came down in price until the next generation came out and games were clearanced off. As for Heavenly Sword, I've seen it for @$30 several times in the last 6 months or so, but pricing this generation is in general YMMV. For example at one walmart here in lincoln 6 months ago I found Drakes for $20 clearanced the next week I went to a different walmart at it was still in the locked case (and is to this day) for $60.

That's true todrigo. I remember when I wanted SimCity and Mario Kart on the SNES, they were out of print and I couldn't find them! And if I did want them, they would've been full price even years after they came out! Well, eventually I got SMK, after Nintendo started up their player's choice line, and it was awesome and only $39.99. This was like 1994 or 1995 and the game came out in 1992.

Sony did a LOT to lower game prices. When the PSX came out games were $59.99 like they are today (I have old mags with EB Games inserts that say this, so its not just my memory).

Eventually FF7 came out and Sony priced it aggressively at $49.99 which became the mainstream price. Then they released a lot of first party games at $39.99. Then they expanded on Nintendo's idea and aggressively priced cheaper games. This was to keep Nintendo off guard; Nintendo with their expensive carts couldn't match Sony on pricing, but obviously gamers loved it and bought more software than ever before.

check your local blockbuster. they are clearing out new games like uncharted, bioshock and ratchet and clank: future and many others for 19.99 or less.

Right now, half.com (owned by ebay) lives up to it's name: you can buy this game new for $30.

See: http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ46929480QQcpidZ1328451893

I know the OP wants sealed copies, sometimes I've lucked out with trades on Goozex or SwapTree for sealed games: but that was completely random and people have reported wildly different experiences from good to bad with these trading systems.

That's one way to think about it. But the other way is from a developer's perspective: most games these days don't pull a profit (~20% of released titles actually make money). From that standpoint, games are ridiculously cheap and most are sold at great financial loss.

Hey, Captain Obvious here! You know which of those games are that are in the 20% group that make money? The GOOD ones. Maybe developers should stop shoveling out garbage in order to concentrate on games that people will PAY for. Most of us are in agreement, without ever having played the game yet, that Uncharted 2 could be sold for $65.99 (and up) and people WILL pay for it. Same for Final Fantasy XIII. But how can a reasonable price be set (where the consumer feels it's fair and the developers/publishers can make money to continue on more projects) for another yearly iteration of your favorite sports game (MLB:The Show being the recent exception), yet another Need for Speed/Fast and Furious racer clone, or one of the 100's of first person shooters when another one will be shoveled out in 3-4 weeks time?

I paid $35-$40 for Pitfall on the Atari at KayBee Toys several years after the game had come out, there was no discounting games as they aged.

I still have some sealed 2600 and 7800 games. Honestly, it's not on purpose though, I used to work for an Atari store and I ended up with some copies of games still in the box that I had on-hand and played. I have no idea what they are worth, although I do recognize there is a collector value to many of them. To me the value is in the game itself, do I get something from playing it. On the same vein, we drive our classic cars too. Just looking at them in a garage is no fun.

Believe it or not until Undercover NFS was one of gaming's top selling franchises. I think ProStreet sold like 6 million copies. So of course the issue of making good games is pretty tricky or else every game would be good.

I wouldn't pay $65.99 for Uncharted 2 (it's cool if you would) but I would have paid a lot more than $59.99 for SF4. Of course one way publishers are tackling this problem is by releasing collectors editions and what not.

I won't pay full retail unless it's a game I really feel good about. Fallout 3 is the last game I've payed full retail for and I don't regret it because it's given me so much entertainment value. I could see paying full retail for Madden if I had a hardcore group of friends who played the game religiously, regardless of what I actually think the game is worth. I'm a collector and go for special editions if one is available (outside of Fable 2, they can kma if they think I'll pay for that butchered release).

Believe it or not until Undercover NFS was one of gaming's top selling franchises. I think ProStreet sold like 6 million copies. So of course the issue of making good games is pretty tricky or else every game would be good.

I wouldn't pay $65.99 for Uncharted 2 (it's cool if you would) but I would have paid a lot more than $59.99 for SF4. Of course one way publishers are tackling this problem is by releasing collectors editions and what not.

True that. Different strokes for different folks but both are good games (likely) and I'd consider in the same 20% group.

i won't even go into detail about how much i would pay for remakes of certain games lol

One thing about the UK, games drop in value quickly, making buying them at launch essentially pissing away money. I bought Fallout 3,DC vs Mortal Kombat, And Quantum of Solace for half the price only a month after they were launched. Even used games, a game like Unchartered or MSG 4 sells for $20-25 equal, while they're what, $40-50 stateside? Also, taking into consideration the current value of the pound against the U.S dollar, games like Resident Evil 5,Killzone 2 or Street Fighter 4 are the equal of $40-45 here.

I guess it is all relative.

It really is. I mean, my brother and I were only 11 years old back in 1989 when we forked over $65 for Mega Man 2. Today you pay 10 bucks for a game like that. (Mega Man 9)

Most games these days seem like a good deal to me, so long as they don't completely suck. ^_^

That's true todrigo. I remember when I wanted SimCity and Mario Kart on the SNES, they were out of print and I couldn't find them! And if I did want them, they would've been full price even years after they came out! Well, eventually I got SMK, after Nintendo started up their player's choice line, and it was awesome and only $39.99. This was like 1994 or 1995 and the game came out in 1992.

Sony did a LOT to lower game prices. When the PSX came out games were $59.99 like they are today (I have old mags with EB Games inserts that say this, so its not just my memory).

Eventually FF7 came out and Sony priced it aggressively at $49.99 which became the mainstream price. Then they released a lot of first party games at $39.99. Then they expanded on Nintendo's idea and aggressively priced cheaper games. This was to keep Nintendo off guard; Nintendo with their expensive carts couldn't match Sony on pricing, but obviously gamers loved it and bought more software than ever before.

Part of the reason for Sony being able to price the games lower also was because it simply cost more to manufacture cartridges vs the Playstation's CDs.

You gotta admit though, putting up with loading screens on the PS1 for some games was brutal after the zero load time era of cartridges. ^_^

Part of the reason for Sony being able to price the games lower also was because it simply cost more to manufacture cartridges vs the Playstation's CDs.

You gotta admit though, putting up with loading screens on the PS1 for some games was brutal after the zero load time era of cartridges. ^_^

It didn't seem that bad, especially when PS1 started moving away from sprite games to 3d ones. Something cartridges games didn't catch up to until the 64, and even then didn't do as well (textures, geometry complexity, cd quality sound).

Anyways guys, don't forget inflation. Even at $60, were paying less then we did back then because of inflation on the dollar. Overall, it's cheaper and easier to get into gaming then it used to be.

It seems PS3 exclusives and in particular, Sony published ones, keep their prices alot higher than other games alot longer. At least that's what I've observed.

It seems PS3 exclusives and in particular, Sony published ones, keep their prices alot higher than other games alot longer. At least that's what I've observed.

Too bad it doesn't reflect their quality.

Too bad it doesn't reflect their quality.


lmfao

that's terrible man...though only somewhat true:p

Too bad it doesn't reflect their quality.

Well, quality wise HS was up there. It was short, but they hit it spot on, on what they were trying to do; a polished short game is always better in my opinion then a longer game that was thrown together.

I've been pretty happy with Sonys 1st and 2nd party releases so far, and there's a good lineup on the way this year.

FYI, Heavenly Sword is on clearance at Sears for $19.97. The game might have a full price sticker on it, but when it's scanned at the register the clearance price will come up.

Why is this thread still open?

lmfao

that's terrible man...though only somewhat true:p

Yeah, mainly talking about this game. I did really dig the first time through but later on the fighting controls just bugged me and not being able to jump plus it was pretty damn short. I guess I was hoping for more GOW and less throw sheilds at gongs. The graphics were nice though.

It's still $60 because it's in like the top 1000 best games ever made! duh!!!

Well, quality wise HS was up there. It was short, but they hit it spot on, on what they were trying to do; a polished short game is always better in my opinion then a longer game that was thrown together.

I've been pretty happy with Sonys 1st and 2nd party releases so far, and there's a good lineup on the way this year.

umm, 2nd party is yourself.

If SOE publishes it, that's first party. Doesn't matter who developed it.

Also, part of the reason Sony doesn't lower the prices is because...they're Sony. Their genius marketing team doesn't want to "cheapen the brand" or some crap like that. The effect is that games like HS have a thriving resale market, but a tiny primary market. Sony would make probably multiples on their revenues and profits if they just lowered their older games to $20 as that is impulse-purchase pricing. $60 isn't unless you're a single guy with a college degree making good money.

Also, part of the reason Sony doesn't lower the prices is because...they're Sony. Their genius marketing team doesn't want to "cheapen the brand" or some crap like that.

Not really. The big 3 all do this sort of thing. Like I said earlier, Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess is still $50

Just buy'em used for half price.

umm, 2nd party is yourself.

No, no it's not.

For the most part it's independent developers (http://www.ninjatheory.com/about.php) that get the dev costs [or most of them] taken care of by Sony, and get it distributed through Sony. Although, Sony would usually own the IP as a result, it's not always the case.

Eat Sleep Play for example is currently a 2nd party dev.