HI Guys,
First post here. I have a a WDTV media player for a few weeks, and have been lucky enuf to have had in my possession some really good films
*Blu Ray Rips (Mkv), which were encoded in AC3 format.
Was able to watch these without any problems on the unit.

Didnt really understand, that you couldnt hear DTS audio on the unit, until I had done abit more reading up on the subject. Used The Popcorn convertor 2night, and had some success after converting the audio to ac3 format.

This played on the WDTv mp, but only after changing the Audio output on the unit from DIGITAL to STEREO, in the settings menu.

Is this what you have to do in such cases ?

.
The reason i am asking is,
on the HD Films i have downloaded with an ac3 format,
i have never had to change the settings on the box from Digital to stereo to watch these films before.

Can someone educate me a little on this ?

cheers
Tom

For DTS you need an external DTS decoder...

are you sure you converted the audio to ac3 and not something else? can you post mediainfo information on the file with the converted audio?

Not sure about the WDTV, but on my SageTV HD Theater media player, AC3 will be decoded to analog and go out the analog outputs, but a DTS signal is only 'pass-thru' and thus you must use the digital (in my case optical) output and play it into a digital audio receiver that decodes the DTS signal. Maybe the WDTV gurus can clarify if this is so with the WD unit or not

It is so as far as DTS is concerned, AC3 should go out of HDMI as AC3 when set to digital, and as 2-channel PCM when set to analog settings..

I convert lots of audio from dts to ac3 and never have to change it out of digital using an hdmi cable. Like someone said above are you sure you didnt have an odd box checked and changed it to something else?

on the WDTV section, this is information was stated:

"An audio receiver is required for surround sound output. AAC/Dolby Digital decodes in 2 channel output only"

here is something if you used the Popcorn converter, you may have both DTS and AC3 in your mkv file. The AC3 file may be he second audio track - try that.

here is something if you used the Popcorn converter, you may have both DTS and AC3 in your mkv file. The AC3 file may be he second audio track - try that.

that's right! i've tried this and it's really simple. but you have to have DTS audio to begin with, from there it will convert to AC3. there's option to delete the DTS or add AC3 too.

Other option is just to get popcorn hour a-110 (can decode DTS internally) or DTS capable receiver.

WD HD media player doesn't support DTS audio.

While playing the mkv file with the deafult DTS track, WD HD media player will not play audio and video after that further media files will not be able to play till we swicth off and on the player.

Did anyone tried this.

Thanks in advance.

WD HD media player doesn't support DTS audio.

While playing the mkv file with the deafult DTS track, WD HD media player will not play audio and video after that further media files will not be able to play till we swicth off and on the player.

Did anyone tried this.

Thanks in advance.

I dont know about turning the player on and off never had to do that.

Hey everybody, than you very much for all your replies.
When i first load the mkv file, which is a small sample with DTS audio, below is the info that loads onyo the popcorn screen


C:\Documents and Settings\Thomas Welsh\My Documents\POPCORN AUDIO CONVERTOR>"C:\Documents and Settings\silvershadow68\My Documents\POP
CORN AUDIO CONVERTOR\AudioConverterTools\MKVtoolnix\mkvinfo.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\silvershadow68\Desktop\Quantum.of.Solace.7
20p.BluRay.x264-REFiNED\refined-qos-blu720p-sample.mkv" >C:\DOCUME~1\THOMAS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\MKVINFO.OUT

Video Track:
Stream: 1280x536 @ 23.976fps
Aspect Ratio: 1:2.3880597015
Running time: 00:00:29
Codec: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Audio Track #1:
Format: DTS
BitRate: 1536
Language: eng
Subtitle Track #1:
Format: S_TEXT/UTF8
Language: eng

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

after processing with popcorn in which i selected
*ticked the box which says Convert DTS tracks
*ticked the box which say, Convert to dolby digital.
(when you hover the mouse over this it says
(if selected DTS tracks are converted to ac3 tracks)
bitrate is 448
dts decoder library is libav

output is

Progress log:

Extracting Information for file "C:\Documents and Settings\silvershadow68\Desktop\Quantum.of.Solace.720p.BluRa y.x264-REFiNED\refined-qos-blu720p-sample.mkv"
Video Track:
Track Number: 1
Codec: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Pixel Resolution: 1280x536
Aspect ratio: 2.39
Display Resolution: 1280x536
Frames per second: 23.976
Audio Track #1
Track Number: 2
Codec: A_DTS
Language: eng
SampleRate: 48000
Channels: 6
Subtitle Track #1
Track Number: 3
Codec: S_TEXT/UTF8


================================
Ps ,
only use HDMI between tv and box

thanks everyone

Hi guys,
thanks for all the replys. I spent ages getting alot of info together, and used the quick reply option, and all the stuff just dissapeared.
Hell know were it went.
anyhow,

when i load the sample mkv with dts audio in popcorn, this is the first data output

C:\Documents and Settings\Thomas Welsh\My Documents\POPCORN AUDIO CONVERTOR>"C:\Documents and Settings\Thomas Welsh\My Documents\POP
CORN AUDIO CONVERTOR\Tools\MKVtoolnix\mkvinfo.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\Thomas Welsh\Desktop\Quantum.of.Solace.720p.BluRay.x26
4-REFiNED\refined-qos-blu720p-sample.mkv" >C:\DOCUME~1\THOMAS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\MKVINFO.OUT

Video Track:
Stream: 1280x536 @ 23.976fps
Aspect Ratio: 1:2.3880597015
Running time: 00:00:29
Codec: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Audio Track #1:
Format: DTS
BitRate: 1536
Language: eng
Subtitle Track #1:
Format: S_TEXT/UTF8
Language: eng

------------------------------------
I then select the
convert DTS tracks
convert to dolby digital
bitrate left at 448

Nothing else is selected

Have include a print screen att, of what the output is

also HDMI cable is being used between wdtv box and tv

on the WDTV section, this is information was stated:

"An audio receiver is required for surround sound output. AAC/Dolby Digital decodes in 2 channel output only"


Guys,
thankyou very much, and especially to the above poster.

After ticking the section in Popcorn *downmix to stereo*

6ch, is downmixed to 2ch,
and the audio is now there, even when the *Digital selection* is selected on the wdtv player options

thanks everybody

tom

Guys,
thankyou very much, and especially to the above poster.

After ticking the section in Popcorn *downmix to stereo*

6ch, is downmixed to 2ch,
and the audio is now there, even when the *Digital selection* is selected on the wdtv player options

thanks everybody

tom
PCH and WDTV in same sentence im confused

PCH and WDTV in same sentence im confused

Software he is using is originally from Popcorn. Free at http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=20887

Hi,

every DTS and AC3 file plays fine on my WDTV (optical out on seperate receiver), however one mkv gives me trouble. Its DTS track stutters every 5 seconds. On VLC it plays fine. I therefore converted the track to AC3 6 channels and remuxed it.

But whatever tool I use (popcorn converter or mkvtoolnix) the wdtv always just plays the track as PCM stereo. Why? I made sure not to downmix to 2.0. Mediainfo shows the remuxed ac3 track is ac3, 6 channels. Why then does the WDTV only send pcm stereo through the optical out? anyone else had this problem? the stuttering is gone, but I want preserve the 5.1.

any ideas?

tiantian

ps: the audiosettings of WDTV are set to digital and every other 6channel track (dts and ac3) play just fine. I am talking about audiotrack #2 (English).

Format : Matroska
File size : 8.11 GiB
Duration : 2h 1mn
Overall bit rate : 9 533 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-05-01 23:31:52
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.7.0 ('Do It Again') built on Apr 15 2009 00:27:10
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate : 8 253 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 443 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.224
Stream size : 7.02 GiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1125M 10d6ef0
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=8443 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Stream size : 390 MiB (5%)
Language : German

Audio #2
ID : 5
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 558 MiB (7%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : French

I have a related question: Can you tell me if the WDTV passes AC3 Dolby through the optical output so a receiver can decode it while playing video files with AC3 audio such as .mkv and .ts (h.264). I am new to this product and the documentation confuses me on this subject. If so, this looks like just what I was looking for. Thanks.

I have a related question: Can you tell me if the WDTV passes AC3 Dolby through the optical output so a receiver can decode it while playing video files with AC3 audio such as .mkv and .ts (h.264). I am new to this product and the documentation confuses me on this subject. If so, this looks like just what I was looking for. Thanks.

Of course. As it does with DTS audio btw., unlike what the rather confusing discussion in this thread suggests.

WD TV -HD -> pass through (bitstream) of Dolby Digital AC3 and DTS, both via optical out and HDMI.

It can also decode AC3 and downmix it to stereo, if 'stereo' is chosen in the settings. However, it will not decode (and downmix) DTS audio (licensing issues).

Software he is using is originally from Popcorn. Free at http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=20887

Oh hello duh sorry I'm a dumb ass

When I initally set up my WDTV I'm pretty sure I didn't have an issue at all with MKVs that had DTS audio. Now I get no sound. It just says Audio Track 1 (Digital) when the movie begins, but no sound.

I have the player hooked up to an external receiver via optical and hdmi. Audio is set to digital.

Any ideas? I really don't feel like converting everything with popcorn hour when the player seemed to work fine before.

EDIT: Receiver decodes DTS.

If it worked properly before, it should still work with the newer firmwares. Nothing regarding DTS audio was changed. Are you sure that you didn't change anything about your setup? WD TV-HD audio set to 'digital', the correct input selected by your receiver etc.?

If that isn't the problem, post the MediaInfo details of that file, and give more details about your AV setup.

I tried converting to AC3 and that doesn't work either. .AVI files are fine though... I'm not sure where to get the MediaInfo details. I haven't changed any WDTV settings. It's on digital.

Stream 1
Codec: dts
Language: Japanese
Channels: 6
Sample Rate: 48000 Hz

As far as my setup goes, it's a Sony STR-DG720. The SAT inputs, optical and HDMI, and being occupied by the WDTV. A.F.D. is set to auto, though i've tried other settings.

On the receiver's lcd screen "HDMI" is lit up. No speakers are lit up on mkv files, on AVIs and music the speakers are lit up.

You can get MediaInfo here, it's a free tool: http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net

Try to switch your receiver to 'optical input' manually. If your receiver can handle audio via HDMI, and it apparently doesn't, you only need to connect the WD TV-HD via HDMI to your receiver, the additional optical connection is not necessary. If it can't decode audio via HDMI, the optical input should be enough, and you can connect your WD TV-HD to your TV directly, using the HDMI port.

Example:

TV with HDMI input, receiver with (proper) HDMI audio support, WD TV-HD

Setup: WD TV-HD (HDMI out) <---> receiver (HDMI in), receiver (HDMI out) <---> TV (HDMI in)


TV with HDMI input, receiver with no HDMI audio support (or ports), WD TV-HD

Setup: WD TV-HD (optical out) <--> receiver (optical in), WD TV-HD (HDMI out) <--> TV (HDMI in)

It works now! Hooked the HDMI up to my TV, now the audio is going via optical for sure. I don't know why it wasn't decoding through HDMI- My Blu Ray player is running through HDMI.

Oh well, all is good.

Thanks for the help high_definitely, much appreciated.

Hi,

every DTS and AC3 file plays fine on my WDTV (optical out on seperate receiver), however one mkv gives me trouble. Its DTS track stutters every 5 seconds. On VLC it plays fine. I therefore converted the track to AC3 6 channels and remuxed it.

But whatever tool I use (popcorn converter or mkvtoolnix) the wdtv always just plays the track as PCM stereo. Why? I made sure not to downmix to 2.0. Mediainfo shows the remuxed ac3 track is ac3, 6 channels. Why then does the WDTV only send pcm stereo through the optical out? anyone else had this problem? the stuttering is gone, but I want preserve the 5.1.

any ideas?

tiantian

ps: the audiosettings of WDTV are set to digital and every other 6channel track (dts and ac3) play just fine. I am talking about audiotrack #2 (English).

Format : Matroska
File size : 8.11 GiB
Duration : 2h 1mn
Overall bit rate : 9 533 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-05-01 23:31:52
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.7.0 ('Do It Again') built on Apr 15 2009 00:27:10
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate : 8 253 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 443 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.224
Stream size : 7.02 GiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1125M 10d6ef0
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=8443 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Stream size : 390 MiB (5%)
Language : German

Audio #2
ID : 5
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 558 MiB (7%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : French


I would guess because stereo is stream 1. Not sure about selecting which audio stream to use on the WD, never had to do it myself, but you can run it trough a demuxer and remove the stereo track, and leave just the 5.1 then it should play no problem.

It works now! Hooked the HDMI up to my TV, now the audio is going via optical for sure. I don't know why it wasn't decoding through HDMI- My Blu Ray player is running through HDMI.

Oh well, all is good.

Thanks for the help high_definitely, much appreciated.

You are welcome, glad I could help.

You probably have configured your Blu-Ray player to decode the audio stream, and send decoded, uncompressed PCM audio over HDMI to your receiver. That could be an explanation, but since I'm not familiar with your receiver, I can't say for sure.

You are exactly right. :)

I am definately having problems recoding High Def DVD's to my hard drive and playing them back through WDMP and getting Surround sound through the opticle port to my Bose receiver. I've tried NERO 8, Super, Handbrake and still seem to get just 2 ch stereo. The Bose receiver only will handle Dolby or DTS codex through the optical input. The WDMC will pass this codex through to the Dolby unit. It seems all that is needed is a DVD recode program that will handle High Def TV and code the audio in Dolby or DTS format. Does anybody have any suggestions on which will do the job?

I am definately having problems recoding High Def DVD's to my hard drive and playing them back through WDMP and getting Surround sound through the opticle port to my Bose receiver. I've tried NERO 8, Super, Handbrake and still seem to get just 2 ch stereo. The Bose receiver only will handle Dolby or DTS codex through the optical input. The WDMC will pass this codex through to the Dolby unit. It seems all that is needed is a DVD recode program that will handle High Def TV and code the audio in Dolby or DTS format. Does anybody have any suggestions on which will do the job?

High Def DVD = Blu-Ray? :D
WDMP/WDMC = WDTV HD? :D

anyway, here's what you need to do if I understood correctly:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1156588

Hi All,

Does the WDTV output(bitstream) 5.1 AC3 and 5.1 DTS via the HDMI? I have a Pioneer AV receiver that can decode both formats.

Cheers,
K.

Hi All,

Does the WDTV output(bitstream) 5.1 AC3 and 5.1 DTS via the HDMI? I have a Pioneer AV receiver that can decode both formats.

Cheers,
K.
It should, but I'd say it doesn't - at least for me.

It outputs AC3 via HDMI, but DTS only works through optical out for me

Hi there,

Thanks for the reply. Can anyone confirm if people can output DTS via HDMI?

It's possible that this is already said, but after hours and days seeking answers I will share my experience, in the hope that someone find it useful.

For those of you with ONLY HDMI from WD MP to your TV:

Dolby Digital AC3 and A/52 works just fine through HDMI (6 channels downmixed to stereo) Set WD MP sound to Digital, and everything's groovy.

DTS on the other hand will not work in any combination of settings. Here you need some extra hardware or converting your file to AC3/A52. (This may cost you a lot of money or take up precious time)

So be good to your self. As long as you only use HDMI you should only count on movies without DTS.

Hope all you rookies (like myself) can save time and frustration by reading this "to the bone" post.

All the best, and good luck.

Iv got this problem with no sound when useing a hdmi cable. the sound works fine when useing a scart cable. so i need a optical cable to decode the sound? do i just need an optical cable or do i need an adapter too?:confused: