urbeenjammin
05-01-09, 08:31 AM
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View Full Version : Grease review!!! urbeenjammin 05-01-09, 08:31 AM http://www.nt2099.com/J-ENT/news/blu-ray-dvd-reviews/blu-ray-reviews/grease-rockin-rydell-edition-a-j-ent-blu-ray-disc-review/ mzupeman 05-02-09, 08:17 PM I think the review was heavily biased. Undoubtedly this is the best Grease has ever looked, but I think there's been a little scrubbing to scrape away the fine grain, and although they were able to keep most of the great definition and detail that's on the transfer, there are so many shots that suffer due to softness, and there's also some minor edge enhancement that can be seen occasionally, although it's not bad or distracting by any means. Using the same master for the Rockin' Rydell edition that was already put out on DVD is understandable considering how much time they put into that master to clean up the older 2002 DVD release. The color restoration really shines on Blu-ray now. I think they could have done a little better though in the end, but again, this is still the best Grease has ever looked. Some may want to rent this first to see if the upgrade is really worth it to them though. joerod 05-02-09, 08:45 PM We've been waiting for this one. Either way on Blu ray it should still be the best it has ever been... mzupeman 05-02-09, 09:12 PM Well there's no 'should be' about it. It IS the best it's ever looked. I'm just saying, there are shots in the transfer (which appears to be the masters fault, as this was also apparant in the DVD version of Rockin' Rydell) that lack any depth or clarity. There's touching of edge enhancement here and there. That's it. For me, the picture quality is improvement enough for a purchase. However, many people that are your average joe don't always want to upgrade to a Blu-ray if they already own a DVD unless the difference is startling, and I'm not sure that's the experience you get with Grease on Blu-ray. The fact there's evidence that there might be some digital scrubbing to take away some of the grain is kind of lame, too. At least they didn't do it to the point where it really affected the detail. Cristobal 05-03-09, 12:15 PM I'll be picking this one up this Wed. -the day it gets released where I live. I'm not expecting it to be knock-out perfect, heck, it was always soft in that gauzy 70s style anyway. Although she was quite the babe, Olivia Newton-John was pushing 30 when they filmed Grease (I think she was 29) and Stockard Channing was no High School senior either, not surprising that some of the shots are soft. I'm guessing that not only will this be the best that Grease has ever looked, but also the best it's ever going to look. I'm sure I'll be pleased as punch with this one on my big screen. mzupeman 05-03-09, 12:23 PM You're right, there. It's definitely the best Grease could possibly look. It's possible they might be able to find alternate film negatives that don't have that hazy look in certain spots, but Grease even though not a perfect looking film for Blu-ray, is certainly more than suitable. Dex Robinson 05-03-09, 03:40 PM Although she was quite the babe, Olivia Newton-John was pushing 30 when they filmed Grease (I think she was 29) and Stockard Channing was no High School senior either... That's part of the great appeal of this movie. Actually HUGE appeal for me. GREASE is a very highly stylized look at the era. It's not one of the "literal" interpretations like High School Musical where you have...well...high school kids in a musical :). GREASE has adults...people may age; people I can identify with paying homage to an era that I love. I was born in the 50's but I'm too young to remember it. Likewise, the actors in GREASE were born in the late 40's and 50's. The movie gives me a chance to live vicariously through them. It's adults having fun as teenagers. It's my contemporaries living it up in the 1950's. I will be camped outside the video store to get this one. alfbinet 05-04-09, 09:48 AM That's part of the great appeal of this movie. Actually HUGE appeal for me. GREASE is a very highly stylized look at the era. It's not one of the "literal" interpretations like High School Musical where you have...well...high school kids in a musical :). GREASE has adults...people may age; people I can identify with paying homage to an era that I love. I was born in the 50's but I'm too young to remember it. Likewise, the actors in GREASE were born in the late 40's and 50's. The movie gives me a chance to live vicariously through them. It's adults having fun as teenagers. It's my contemporaries living it up in the 1950's. I will be camped outside the video store to get this one. I was born January 1956 and I agree with all your comments. I am looking forward to this as well! At least we had the 70's, disco balls and Saturday Night Fever! Dex Robinson 05-04-09, 10:51 AM I just did a quick calculation of the ages of the major cast members when GREASE was released and I come up with an average age near 29. Stockard Channing was, in fact, born in 1944! However, when you think about it (or, at least, when I think about it), this movie just can't work with real teenagers. No matter how hard I try to imagine of all the talented young music stars of today, you can't make Grease with the Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift and Mylie Cyrus. :) 357 05-04-09, 11:47 AM LOL @ you guys being excited for Grease. Cristobal 05-04-09, 03:07 PM However, when you think about it (or, at least, when I think about it), this movie just can't work with real teenagers. No matter how hard I try to imagine of all the talented young music stars of today, you can't make Grease with the Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift and Mylie Cyrus. :) No, they would have had to use Shaun Cassidy and Kristy McNichol! http://www.stuckinthe70s.com/images/tb1078.jpg Matt_Stevens 05-04-09, 03:42 PM Is the ORIGINAL soundtrack included on this? The remix is inferior. They sucked all of the life out of it with so much hiss reduction. Tom Monahan 05-04-09, 07:18 PM Anyone get a shipping notice from Amazon yet? I preordered it 3 months ago so you would think it wouldn't be sold out before I ordered. Both Saturday Night Fever and Ferris have been shipped out. Paul Arnette 05-04-09, 09:25 PM Anyone get a shipping notice from Amazon yet? I preordered it 3 months ago so you would think it wouldn't be sold out before I ordered. Both Saturday Night Fever and Ferris have been shipped out. Still awaiting on mine as well. In fact, Ferris says 'Shipping Soon' but hasn't yet either. General Kenobi 05-05-09, 12:01 PM So which B&M is the place to go for picking this up today? Looks like BB is $24.99:rolleyes: Tom Monahan 05-05-09, 12:16 PM $19.96 at Walmart. ZenAmako 05-05-09, 01:44 PM Amazon hasn't shipped my copy, either. The product page for Grease states that it will be in stock on May 7th, so I guess Amazon will be receiving this release a little late. The same goes for Benjamin Button. Unfortunately, I can't just cancel and pick it up at Wal-Mart because they already shipped part of my order (Ferris). Maxx_75 05-05-09, 02:27 PM Amazon hasn't shipped my copy, either. The product page for Grease states that it will be in stock on May 7th, so I guess Amazon will be receiving this release a little late. The same goes for Benjamin Button. Unfortunately, I can't just cancel and pick it up at Wal-Mart because they already shipped part of my order (Ferris). I am in the same situation but you should still be able to cancel it. If I see it when I go out this afternoon I am going to cancel mine. My Ferris and SNF have already shipped. ZenAmako 05-05-09, 03:52 PM I can't cancel Grease because I ordered it with Ferris Bueller and used the free shipping, and Ferris Bueller already shipped. An order has to be at least $25 to qualify for the free shipping, and if I canceled Grease, my order total would be $20.99. Since FB shipped separately, I can only wait for Amazon to get Grease in stock. Maxx_75 05-05-09, 04:48 PM I can't cancel Grease because I ordered it with Ferris Bueller and used the free shipping, and Ferris Bueller already shipped. An order has to be at least $25 to qualify for the free shipping, and if I canceled Grease, my order total would be $20.99. Since FB shipped separately, I can only wait for Amazon to get Grease in stock. Ahhh, I get it. I forget that some people dont use Prime. They are getting some in on the 7th and many people are cancelling so you should be fine in a couple days. AVSSVA 05-05-09, 05:43 PM I just received "Grease" and "Saturday Night fever" today from netflix. I'm going to watch both of them this evening. I love Netflix, save a lot of money this way by seeing which Blu-ray films are worth buying. General Kenobi 05-05-09, 07:56 PM $19.96 at Walmart. Thanks! Printed out the Walmart ad and got BB to price match. :cool: Dex Robinson 05-05-09, 09:44 PM I just watched GREASE and I'm delighted with it. It was contrasty and saturated...the way I like it and remember it. Print damage seemed non-existent. Edge enhancement was minor and not distracting...on that note, sometimes I'm not even sure if the perception of low-level EE is actually the transfer or ringing artifiacts from my TV (there are no obvious halos ala some Universal transfers). I couldn't detect any DNR. In short, it looked right. It's not perfect but there are a lot of ways to screw up a 31 year movie and it looks like Paramount avoided most of the pitfalls. I'll add that the bitrate was consistently high. It always seemed to be in the mid 30 MBPS when I checked. The sound is a bit more difficult for me to judge against previous versions. Within the last month I finally got an HDMI receiver so I'm starting to hear the HD soundtracks.I can tell you that I actually managed to decipher a few lines of dialogue that I had not previously been able to understand before. For the most part, I thought the music was excellent. The dialogue seemed a bit muddy at times although it was never garbled. That being said, I complain about the dialogue in most BDs so don't read too much into that :). GREASE will be entering heavy rotation at my house. I might even watch it again tonight! General Kenobi 05-06-09, 01:54 AM GREASE will be entering heavy rotation at my house. I might even watch it again tonight! lol, I just posted similar sentiments in Ralph's review thread! You know a movie really holds a special place in your heart when you are actually sad when the credits roll. That was me tonight, finding myself wanting to watch it again as soon as it had ended. I grew up on this movie but haven't watched more than bits and pieces on TV in several years. I never owned the DVD only VHS so this was a real treat! I heard things I never heard before in the audio track and thought it looked and sounded by far the best I'd ever seen/heard it. Yes the PQ was inconsistent (big time) and yes the audio as a whole was mediocre but the music sounded fantastic! I'm not at all one for watching extras on discs (with the exception of the occasional gag reel) but I really enjoyed the DVD launch party on this... btw - had Frenchy aged, she looks great I really hope we start seeing more musicals on blu, what great replay value they have (fingers crossed for Moulin Rouge). Thanks again for a great review on a timeless classic Ralph. mzupeman 05-06-09, 06:41 AM I just watched GREASE and I'm delighted with it. It was contrasty and saturated...the way I like it and remember it. Print damage seemed non-existent. Edge enhancement was minor and not distracting...on that note, sometimes I'm not even sure if the perception of low-level EE is actually the transfer or ringing artifiacts from my TV (there are no obvious halos ala some Universal transfers). I couldn't detect any DNR. In short, it looked right. It's not perfect but there are a lot of ways to screw up a 31 year movie and it looks like Paramount avoided most of the pitfalls. I'll add that the bitrate was consistently high. It always seemed to be in the mid 30 MBPS when I checked. The sound is a bit more difficult for me to judge against previous versions. Within the last month I finally got an HDMI receiver so I'm starting to hear the HD soundtracks.I can tell you that I actually managed to decipher a few lines of dialogue that I had not previously been able to understand before. For the most part, I thought the music was excellent. The dialogue seemed a bit muddy at times although it was never garbled. That being said, I complain about the dialogue in most BDs so don't read too much into that :). GREASE will be entering heavy rotation at my house. I might even watch it again tonight! Unless your sharpness is jacked up, it ain't your TV. There is EE. JeffY 05-06-09, 06:44 AM Some TV's add sharpness even at the minimum setting, I know my Sony does. Dex Robinson 05-06-09, 09:58 AM I see that highdefdigest digest has just posted their review and they give both the audio and video four stars. It's a glowing review. **Regarding sharpness...I just set-up an new Samsung LCD for my aunt (she was replacing a 25 year old set!). That damn thing was producing halos with the sharpness turned to almost nothing. We live in the same neighbourhood with the same cable service and those halos were on everything on her set but not on mine. joerod 05-06-09, 10:40 AM We are planning it for this weekend! :) Can't wait... Art Sonneborn 05-06-09, 11:47 AM I have few musicals that I like. This and My Fair Lady are films which I can enjoy over and over. Glad to see that for the most part it is done well. Art Tom Monahan 05-06-09, 12:45 PM I watched this last evening and had a smile on my face the entire time. To watch it on a scope fp screen in hd was as enjoyable a movie experience as I have I had in my dedicated ht room. I felt like I did when I saw it at the theater in grade school. Watching it on a tv doesn't do this film justice. I can't get those darn songs out of my head. As long as I don't start singing beauty school dropout out loud at the office I should be OK.:D Malcolm_B 05-06-09, 01:06 PM Okay, now move along... BTW, off to go buy this "horrible" movie later today! Dex Robinson 05-06-09, 01:24 PM As long as I don't start singing beauty school dropout out loud at the office I should be OK.:D Or even worse: Look at Me, I'm Sandra Dee BigDad 05-06-09, 05:44 PM Just got finished watching this one - although there were several soft shots, the majority of the film looked great. Most of those are on optical effects shots and cannot be helped. The TrueHD soundtrack was pretty good, too - considering the film's age. One thing I never noticed before - when Sandy and Lorenzo Lamas' character are in the soda shop, there's a Coca-Cola poster on the wall behind them, and it's been blurred out. Anyone know the story behind that? EDIT -- A quick google search revealed the following: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s70grease.html I guess I just never noticed it on any DVD version before. MattGuyOR 05-06-09, 11:33 PM Loved it! I was sad to see more than a few soft shots, but it appears that is an original photography issue. But there is SO much to like as well! Some shots looked so good, it was like watching Grease for the first time again! I will definitely be playing this often! Dex Robinson 05-07-09, 12:50 AM Loved it! I was sad to see more than a few soft shots, but it appears that is an original photography issue. I'd bet money that this is a photography issue. GREASE is the only movie I've owned on VHS, both DVDs and BD. I don't subscribe to the idea that, someday, we will magically discover sharper versions of some individual shots. I think if that was possible, it would have already happenned in the intervening 30 years. I look at the silver lining...we dodged a bullet. Paramount could have taken those shots and cranked up a triple dose of EE. The fact that we can actually see soft shots is not necessarily a bad thing. mzupeman 05-07-09, 06:25 AM It is a photography issue. The minor digital scrubbing however is not. Malcolm_B 05-07-09, 10:33 AM This one was such a pleasant experience in my HT. Best I've seen it at home. Sure, some soft spots, but I could live with it overall. Well worth the $19.95! Grease will go into my heavy rotation pile of Blu Rays. jaaguir 08-03-09, 07:54 AM I watched "Grease" last night and I was astonished by the sharpness of the image. Most daytime exterior shots look stunning with amazing sharpness and detail. I wasn't expecting it to be so good, especially after reading some reports. There are plenty of out of focus or inferior shots, but like others have pointed out, I'm sure it's due to photographic or printing issues in the original source. I wouldn't expect this movie to look any better for a long time, if ever. A must buy for anyone who likes the movie. |