View Full Version : Web-connected electronics sales to double in four years - Consumers to buy > 100 Mill


PSound
05-06-09, 06:45 PM
DIGITAL: Consumers will buy more than 100 million components in 2013

Worldwide annual sales of Web-connected electronics components will double within the next four years as more people try to take advantage of a broadening range of digital-content services, according to a Parks Associates report released yesterday.

Global consumers will buy more than 100 million televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, videogame consoles and other Web-connected electronics components in 2013, according to the report. The typical household also will boost its electronic storage capacity substantially as people download more content.

"Consumers are very interested in bringing Internet content to the television," Kurt Scherf, principal analyst at Parks, said in a statement. "For devices to offer a compelling value proposition, they will have to feature connectivity within the home network and to the services coming to the home."

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6656799.html

Nosferax
05-06-09, 09:01 PM
Wow such a definite and set in stone number. I wonder if they use a physical crystal ball or if they use one online... :p

PSound
05-06-09, 09:29 PM
Wow such a definite and set in stone number. I wonder if they use a physical crystal ball or if they use one online... :p

You have it all wrong.. the crystal ball method is what people who try to dismiss an entire robust distribution model without any supporting research or data use!

Nosferax
05-06-09, 09:38 PM
You have it all wrong.. the crystal ball method is what people who try to dismiss an entire robust distribution model without any supporting research or data use!

Only in your world... Oh I forgot !!!! !! and ! :D

42Plasmaman
05-06-09, 10:34 PM
Wow. Talk about a misleading thread title.

"Web-connected electronics sales to double in four years - Consumers to buy > 100 Mill"

What is double of ______ ?

When the article says:
"Global consumers will buy more than 100 million televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, videogame consoles and other Web-connected electronics components in 2013"

No where does it say the entire 100M is SPECIFIC for web-connected devices but 100M for OVERALL digital media devices.
Also, just because some of these devices have web-connectivity ports does not mean they will all be connected.
A TV can be used without web-connectivity.
A blu-ray player can be used without web-connectivity.
A game console can be used without web-connectivity.

fpconvert
05-06-09, 11:31 PM
Wow. Talk about a misleading thread title.

"Web-connected electronics sales to double in four years - Consumers to buy > 100 Mill"

What is double of ______ ?

When the article says:
"Global consumers will buy more than 100 million televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, videogame consoles and other Web-connected electronics components in 2013"

No where does it say the entire 100M is SPECIFIC for web-connected devices but 100M for OVERALL digital media devices.
Also, just because some of these devices have web-connectivity ports does not mean they will all be connected.
A TV can be used without web-connectivity.
A blu-ray player can be used without web-connectivity.
A game console can be used without web-connectivity.

Yeah, i'm not sure about this either. I have alot of things that can connect to the web but I don't w/ the exception of my pc. Seems everything has an ethernet port these days.

PSound
05-07-09, 10:59 AM
Article is titled:

Web-connected electronics sales to double in four years - DIGITAL: Consumers will buy more than 100 million components in 2013


And from the article:

Global consumers will buy more than 100 million televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, videogame consoles and other Web-connected electronics components in 2013, according to the report.

"Consumers are very interested in bringing Internet content to the television," Kurt Scherf, principal analyst at Parks, said in a statement.



I do enjoy seeing the denial of the news from the usual suspects. :p

Nosferax
05-07-09, 11:39 AM
And where is it written that those 100 millions devices will really be used to access web content with it?

PSound
05-07-09, 11:50 AM
And where is it written that those 100 millions devices will really be used to access web content with it?

The article is only ambiguous if you are trying really hard to be ignorant.

I am quoting the entire article here, and highlighting a few points. The message is very clear, unless you are in denial.


Web-connected electronics sales to double in four years
DIGITAL: Consumers will buy more than 100 million components in 2013

By Danny King -- Video Business, 5/6/2009

MAY 6 | DIGITAL: Worldwide annual sales of Web-connected electronics components will double within the next four years as more people try to take advantage of a broadening range of digital-content services, according to a Parks Associates report released yesterday.

Global consumers will buy more than 100 million televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, videogame consoles and other Web-connected electronics components in 2013, according to the report. The typical household also will boost its electronic storage capacity substantially as people download more content.

"Consumers are very interested in bringing Internet content to the television," Kurt Scherf, principal analyst at Parks, said in a statement. "For devices to offer a compelling value proposition, they will have to feature connectivity within the home network and to the services coming to the home."

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6656799.html

PSound
05-07-09, 11:55 AM
And just in case it still doesn't click.....


The market for connected CE includes networked TVs, Blu-ray players, game consoles, home media servers, and set-top boxes. Through network and Internet connections, these devices can access and display home network content such as photos and music and retrieve online content such as widgets, games, and video from Hulu and YouTube.

http://parksassociates.blogspot.com/2009/05/connected-consumer-electronics-sales-to.html

Nosferax
05-07-09, 01:00 PM
People buy all sort of device with web enable fonctionnality. That doesn't mean with a 100% certainty that said functionality will be use. If joe wants a BR player and all the model available to him come with web functionnality he will buy one of those. But joe doesn't use the internet, and doesn't want to. So how can you say that all those 100 million device will be use for web access when there are a big bunch of joe around that doesn't use the net and don't care to?

Same thing for web enable TV or video console. The fact that they can doesn't mean that they will. You can cite or c&p a lot of those speculative article but the fact remain that they are only that, speculation.

This sound like deja vue. We already had this argument a while ago.

Web enable device != will be 100% use to access the web.

Hell, I have a hitch on my car and never hauled a trailer and never will but it did come equiped with.

PSound
05-07-09, 01:06 PM
People buy all sort of device with web enable fonctionnality. That doesn't mean with a 100% certainty that said functionality will be use. If joe wants a BR player and all the model available to him come with web functionnality he will buy one of those. But joe doesn't use the internet, and doesn't want to. So how can you say that all those 100 million device will be use for web access when there are a big bunch of joe around that doesn't use the net and don't care to?

With all those "joes" with no interest in the internet, it is amazing that the web doesn't just close it's doors due to lack of use! ROFL!

Same thing for web enable TV or video console. The fact that they can doesn't mean that they will. You can cite or c&p a lot of those speculative article but the fact remain that they are only that, speculation.

This sound like deja vue. We already had this argument a while ago.

Web enable device != will be 100% use to access the web.

Hell, I have a hitch on my car and never hauled a trailer and never will but it did come equiped with.

Who said anything about 100%? That is a strawman argument since neither I or the article ever stated that 100% of them will be used to access online video.

That said...

The fact is that web-enabled devices that connect directly to the TV do drive streaming usage. Netflix themselves discussed that they had a very strong attach rate with the Netflix-enabled Blu-ray players.

Having the functionality will drive growth. Simple and obvious.

Nosferax
05-07-09, 02:02 PM
With all those "joes" with no interest in the internet, it is amazing that the web doesn't just close it's doors due to lack of use! ROFL!



Who said anything about 100%? That is a strawman argument since neither I or the article ever stated that 100% of them will be used to access online video.

That said...

The fact is that web-enabled devices that connect directly to the TV do drive streaming usage. Netflix themselves discussed that they had a very strong attach rate with the Netflix-enabled Blu-ray players.

Having the functionality will drive growth. Simple and obvious.

There was an article not that long ago stating that quite a few weren't interested in high speed internet and quite a few said they didn't even want access.

And come on... strawman... You are the one implying that those device will be connected and use to access the web with certainty by the buyers. This is the whole point of you posting this type of material.

If the article said that 100 million of TV, BR and game console would be sold without mentioning the web access you wouldn't have posted it here in the first place.

I know you are trying to sell the online services and as such you are presenting it in the best light possible, but come on... Strawman... lol...

PSound
05-07-09, 02:26 PM
There was an article not that long ago stating that quite a few weren't interested in high speed internet and quite a few said they didn't even want access.

Good for them. It doesn't mean that broadband speed and penetration are not growing. One does not need 100% buy-in for there to be robust growth.

And come on... strawman... You are the one implying that those device will be connected and use to access the web with certainty by the buyers. This is the whole point of you posting this type of material.

If the article said that 100 million of TV, BR and game console would be sold without mentioning the web access you wouldn't have posted it here in the first place.

I know you are trying to sell the online services and as such you are presenting it in the best light possible, but come on... Strawman... lol...

Making an argument against 100% of those devices being used for streaming is absolutely a strawman argument. Neither I or the article ever made that claim. Heck, 100% of PS3s are not used for gaming and that is the machines primary marketed use.


The entire message of the article is that online functionality is becoming a core feature of video devices. This includes access to the expanding options for consuming long form video content over the internet. This is the Video Download Services and Hardware forum. It is what we discuss and what we share news and info about.

It happens to be that we are fast approaching the time where the vast majority of TVs, game consoles, Blu-ray players, etc will ALL be Video Download hardware. And as has been demonstrated in the market, with attached hardware to display devices (or enabled display devices) comes increased usage and acceptance.

Welcome to the forum!

42Plasmaman
05-07-09, 02:29 PM
People buy all sort of device with web enable fonctionnality. That doesn't mean with a 100% certainty that said functionality will be use. If joe wants a BR player and all the model available to him come with web functionnality he will buy one of those. But joe doesn't use the internet, and doesn't want to. So how can you say that all those 100 million device will be use for web access when there are a big bunch of joe around that doesn't use the net and don't care to?

Same thing for web enable TV or video console. The fact that they can doesn't mean that they will. You can cite or c&p a lot of those speculative article but the fact remain that they are only that, speculation.

This sound like deja vue. We already had this argument a while ago.

Web enable device != will be 100% use to access the web.

Hell, I have a hitch on my car and never hauled a trailer and never will but it did come equiped with.

Correct.
I have a built in satellite receiver in my stereo but I have yet to enable it because of the reoccurring monthly fees for access but my stereo still plays CD's, has iPod dock of iPod playback & receives free OTA radio, the main intent/use/function of the stereo.

Nosferax
05-07-09, 03:16 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Feeew... I thought you were going to say "welcome to my world"... That would have been scary :p

PSound
05-07-09, 03:57 PM
Feeew... I thought you were going to say "welcome to my world"... That would have been scary :p

Reality does bite for some. :cool:

PSound
05-07-09, 04:02 PM
Another article on the report:

Consumer demand for digital media and online content will push worldwide annual sales of connected CE to more than 100 million units by 2013, according to the new report from Parks Associates.

The market for connected CE includes networked TVs, Blu-ray players, game consoles, home media servers and set-top boxes.

Through network and Internet connections, these devices can access and display home network content such as photos and music and retrieve online content such as widgets, games, and content from Hulu and YouTube.

“Key consumer trends are aligning to drive this market,” said Kurt Scherf, VP and principal analyst for Parks Associates. “People want whole-home access to their personal content. At the same time, consumers are very interested in bringing Internet content to the television.”

Scherf said for Web-connected devices to offer compelling value to consumers, they will have to feature connectivity within the home network and third-party services, including Netflix and Blockbuster.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/electronic-delivery/report-web-enabled-ce-product-top-100m-units-2013-15646