View Full Version : Harmony for PS3 is here


Ericdj
05-11-09, 02:40 PM
Best Buy
Distributor: Logitech
Model: 943-000029
Sku: 9274714
Upc: 0-97855-05916-1
Street date: 05.31.09

RYANtheTIGER
05-11-09, 03:29 PM
Is there a link for it?

TedSeattle
05-11-09, 06:50 PM
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/05/11/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-ps3-gets-real-coming-at-end-of-may/

RYANtheTIGER
05-11-09, 07:35 PM
So the Harmony remotes only work with the PS3 if you have the adapter?

bairda
05-11-09, 09:07 PM
So the Harmony remotes only work with the PS3 if you have the adapter?

You can get a Harmony to work with a PS3 but you will need an external bluetooth to IR remote (like the Nkyo Blu-Wave) to make it work. It works most of the time but it is clunky and doesn't give you some options, like using the PS button.

A direct bluetooth adapter for the Harmony will be great assuming it works right.

-Alex-

RYANtheTIGER
05-11-09, 10:23 PM
gotcha. why doesn't the ps3 just use IR? why make things difficult??

Darkneo
05-12-09, 02:59 AM
gotcha. why doesn't the ps3 just use IR? why make things difficult??

Ask Sony lol

najaboy
05-12-09, 05:52 AM
You can get a Harmony to work with a PS3 but you will need an external bluetooth to IR remote (like the Nkyo Blu-Wave) to make it work. It works most of the time but it is clunky and doesn't give you some options, like using the PS button.

A direct bluetooth adapter for the Harmony will be great assuming it works right.

-Alex-

To correct and clarify, the Nkyo is not BT to IR. It is merely an IR remote and dongle that utilizes a usb port to provide limited control of the PS3. The commands are transmitted via the usb port and are not converted to DT packets.

Numerous IR to BT converters are already available that provide full control of the PS3 via IR remotes such as the Harmony. Logitech is only the latest player to the game. What they will have going for them, besides brand recognition, is the lowest overall price point at $59.99, save for perhaps the IR4PS3.

bairda
05-12-09, 06:47 AM
To correct and clarify, the Nkyo is not BT to IR. It is merely an IR remote and dongle that utilizes a usb port to provide limited control of the PS3. The commands are transmitted via the usb port and are not converted to DT packets.

Numerous IR to BT converters are already available that provide full control of the PS3 via IR remotes such as the Harmony. Logitech is only the latest player to the game. What they will have going for them, besides brand recognition, is the lowest overall price point at $59.99, save for perhaps the IR4PS3.

I stand corrected!
-Alex-

acegamer
05-12-09, 07:35 AM
The logitech is up for sale on Amazon now! :)

logitech adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=amb_link_84307351_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_r=12GTWSWWF8G0QSPMVJ5K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=477083191&pf_rd_i=507846)

stephenju
05-12-09, 08:28 AM
The logitech is up for sale on Amazon now! :)

logitech adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=amb_link_84307351_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_r=12GTWSWWF8G0QSPMVJ5K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=477083191&pf_rd_i=507846)

Ordered one. Thanks.

coopasonic
05-12-09, 11:24 AM
I read an article on engadget about this and they said it would only work for with harmony remotes. Is that even possible?

I have a harmony 550 I use in my family room and an URC MX-900 I use for my media room (where the PS3 is the BD player). If I programmed my 550 with the controls for the harmony ps3 adapter, I should be able to learn the commands on my MX-900, right?

averse
05-12-09, 11:37 AM
The logitech is up for sale on Amazon now! http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif

logitech adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=amb_link_84307351_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_r=12GTWSWWF8G0QSPMVJ5K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=477083191&pf_rd_i=507846)

confirmed.
Visited the site.
Planning to have one.

chufly29
05-12-09, 12:08 PM
I read an article on engadget about this and they said it would only work for with harmony remotes. Is that even possible?

I have a harmony 550 I use in my family room and an URC MX-900 I use for my media room (where the PS3 is the BD player). If I programmed my 550 with the controls for the harmony ps3 adapter, I should be able to learn the commands on my MX-900, right?

the blog post states that it wasn't designed to work with other remotes, but didn't specifically say it won't work with other remotes (maybe it's Logitech's version of a disclaimer)

bryansj
05-12-09, 12:14 PM
the blog post states that it wasn't designed to work with other remotes, but didn't specifically say it won't work with other remotes (maybe it's Logitech's version of a disclaimer)

I'm sure it just has unique IR codes already in the Harmony database. It is just a matter of either learning them from any Harmony remote or someone dumping the hex codes.

MikeSRC
05-12-09, 01:49 PM
I'm sure it just has unique IR codes already in the Harmony database. It is just a matter of either learning them from any Harmony remote or someone dumping the hex codes.

Which already has been done. Get them here (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/ps3/thread.cgi?3).

focker240
05-12-09, 02:27 PM
Ordered one as well. Thanks!

Darkneo
05-12-09, 04:30 PM
Ordered:)

MikeCandler
05-12-09, 04:40 PM
Done ordered mine as well from Amazon...anyone think this will power on and off the Wii as well?? Would think so if not now moving forward it should.

chufly29
05-12-09, 05:26 PM
Done ordered mine as well from Amazon...anyone think this will power on and off the Wii as well?? Would think so if not now moving forward it should.

I do not believe it will, the bluetooth commands are specific to the PS3 (I have no idea how that's possible, but that's what's in the blogpost on logitech)

here's the snippet:
Can I use it to control other components that use Bluetooth wireless technology, such as the Wii game console?
No – in a nutshell, the adapter speaks a Bluetooth language using hardware and software that is specific to PS3, in the same way that Sony’s game controllers are specific to the PS3.

cntr_ice_junkie
05-12-09, 07:07 PM
Which already has been done. Get them here (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/ps3/thread.cgi?3).

So in looking at this, it appears that the Logitech one does not have a discrete off command that is working. Is there any solution out there that has discrete on/off commands? Even this option doesn't seem to have discrete commands but attempts to solve it by "power sensing".

http://www.schmartstuff.com/ps3ir1k.html

Murilo
05-13-09, 04:57 AM
Yea im about to pull the trigger on the schmart, the power sensing is a must, i constantly accidently turn the ps3 on when i put in a game instead of using the remote, and then it gets out of sync.

I dont see a power sensing cord, or an option how the harmony would accomplish this.

Looks like Im going to go with the schmart.

Unless someone can confirm the off button wont turn on the ps3, if its out of sync, but i dont know how this would be possible, since you need to hit the ps button to turn it on, and hit it to turn it off. Unless you had power sensing like schmart.

MikeCandler
05-13-09, 09:57 AM
I do not believe it will, the bluetooth commands are specific to the PS3 (I have no idea how that's possible, but that's what's in the blogpost on logitech)

here's the snippet:
Can I use it to control other components that use Bluetooth wireless technology, such as the Wii game console?
No – in a nutshell, the adapter speaks a Bluetooth language using hardware and software that is specific to PS3, in the same way that Sony’s game controllers are specific to the PS3.

Hmm that's strange, you would think Logitech would have made it so it would work in any IR to BT application...huh odd to say the least.

paerley
05-13-09, 10:58 AM
Bluetooth is just a wireless communication layer, like 802.11a/b/g/n are. There are a few pre-defined protocols that are supported(L2CAP is likely the one used in this case, with RFCOMM being runner up, and with BNEP and OBEX being the most common), but what is spoken using those is the 'magic bits'. Just because the remote is a bluetooth device, doesn't mean it has to speak some magic common language that all bluetooth devices agree on.

Think of bluetooth as the HDMI cable between your PS3 and your AVR. Bluetooth really only requires that the devices be able to detect that the other is there. There's no requirement that they be able to work with each other in any guaranteed way. Now with HDMI being a much more targeted spec, odds are VERY VERY high that 2 devices talking to each other over HDMI will be able to work together. Bluetooth, in contrast, is a very generic spec.

Anyways, where I was going with that...

The wii may use bluetooth, and the ps3 may use bluetooth, and both may have similar features, the only thing that their bluetooth implementations likely have in common are what they're used for.

MikeSRC
05-13-09, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=cntr_ice_junkie;16448420]So in looking at this, it appears that the Logitech one does not have a discrete off command that is working. Is there any solution out there that has discrete on/off commands? Even this option doesn't seem to have discrete commands but attempts to solve it by "power sensing".

There is no discrete off command for the PS3 to my knowledge. That's why it's either done with an "Off" macro (like I'm doing with my IR2BT) which is not reliable in all occasions, or by using power sensing (the better option).

cntr_ice_junkie
05-13-09, 12:37 PM
There is no discrete off command for the PS3 to my knowledge. That's why it's either done with an "Off" macro (like I'm doing with my IR2BT) which is not reliable in all occasions, or by using power sensing (the better option).

So just to be clear, something like the PS3IR-1000 which supposedly has power sensing does offer a discrete on/off code even though the PS3 does not. It just uses power sensing to detect whether it really has to do the requested discrete action, otherwise it ignores it. Do I have that right?

Just want to make sure I got it 100% correct before dropping the extra cabbage for the more expensive option.

RYANtheTIGER
05-13-09, 01:16 PM
So the adaptor sits somewhere, correct? Does that mean I can place my PS3 in one of the cabinets of my media stand and still be able to control it while watching movies??

bryansj
05-13-09, 01:29 PM
So the adaptor sits somewhere, correct? Does that mean I can place my PS3 in one of the cabinets of my media stand and still be able to control it while watching movies??

Yes, you just need line-of-sight to your IR to BT adapter.

So just to be clear, something like the PS3IR-1000 which supposedly has power sensing does offer a discrete on/off code even though the PS3 does not. It just uses power sensing to detect whether it really has to do the requested discrete action, otherwise it ignores it. Do I have that right?

Just want to make sure I got it 100% correct before dropping the extra cabbage for the more expensive option.

The discrete code is still just a macro, but it is built into the IR to BT device and is triggered by a unique command from the remote. The sensing tells the device whether or not to transmit the macro.

T100
05-13-09, 03:34 PM
I ordered one from logitech here's what there blog said http://blog.logitech.com/

jonathanR
05-13-09, 05:30 PM
Harmony PS3 Adapter setup manual (http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/fattach_get.php?p_sid=G1P_XJxj&p_li=&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_tbl=9&p_id=11656&p_created=1240254125&p_olh=0)

mmmccall
05-13-09, 11:48 PM
I have a little problem here. I have a japanese ps3 so the "accept" and "back" buttons are reversed on my ps button menu. In other words, when I press the "ps" button, the menu comes up and I have circle to accept and x to back out as oppose to the other way around like everyone else has it.

So, my issue is turning off using the ps3 adapter. The "off" key for the harmony database is essentially a macro that hits the ps button, then cycles down to "turn system off" and hits "x" to accept. Well, for me this actually backs it out and doesn't turn it off. This "off" button cannot be reporgammed by me to reflect a circle at the end instead of x. Do you think Logitech support could do this for me or am I basically screwed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

remoteshoppe
05-14-09, 09:48 AM
I have a little problem here. I have a japanese ps3 so the "accept" and "back" buttons are reversed on my ps button menu. In other words, when I press the "ps" button, the menu comes up and I have circle to accept and x to back out as oppose to the other way around like everyone else has it.

So, my issue is turning off using the ps3 adapter. The "off" key for the harmony database is essentially a macro that hits the ps button, then cycles down to "turn system off" and hits "x" to accept. Well, for me this actually backs it out and doesn't turn it off. This "off" button cannot be reporgammed by me to reflect a circle at the end instead of x. Do you think Logitech support could do this for me or am I basically screwed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I haven't played with the Harmony unit yet but I know the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 allows you to us a little software utility to create your own macros so getting the power down sequence the way you need would be a piece of cake!

mmmccall
05-14-09, 04:13 PM
I haven't played with the Harmony unit yet but I know the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 allows you to us a little software utility to create your own macros so getting the power down sequence the way you need would be a piece of cake!
yea, its not really like that because I didn't make the macro, its part of harmonys database as the "off" command. Since there is no discrete "off" for ps3, they created a macro to shut the system off and labeled it as their "off" key. Since my buttons are a little different, it doesn't work for me but I can't edit it because it is in the Harmony database.

remoteshoppe
05-15-09, 12:03 AM
yea, its not really like that because I didn't make the macro, its part of harmonys database as the "off" command. Since there is no discrete "off" for ps3, they created a macro to shut the system off and labeled it as their "off" key. Since my buttons are a little different, it doesn't work for me but I can't edit it because it is in the Harmony database.

That's exactly what I expected. Did you get the Harmony adapter from some place that accepts returns?

gagaliya
05-15-09, 12:44 PM
SHIPPING!!!

After 2 years and many wars, the world is now finally at peace as everyone around the globe cheered for ps3 to be controllable by infrared

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-official-real-an/

TheMoose
05-15-09, 04:50 PM
Mine just arrived!
I'll post how it was to set up later.:cool:

TheMoose
05-15-09, 05:10 PM
It's actually much smaller than I expected it to be from the pics I'd seen, it's just a bit larger than a mouse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/TheMoose/Home%20Theater/DSC02285.jpg

OK setup was easy took less than 1 min since I'd already added the PS3 to my device & made an activity!

Since I gave my Dad a PS3 for Blu-Rays & I gave him a 880 for his Birthday I'll probably get him one of these for fathers day!

crazed_z06
05-15-09, 06:08 PM
Just got my adapter today..

Got it all setup and it's working great.

gagaliya
05-15-09, 09:51 PM
you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

Graham N
05-16-09, 05:25 AM
you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

You have been able to do that for ages with the better adaptors such as IR4PS3 & IR2BT etc.

Graham

gagaliya
05-16-09, 05:52 AM
You have been able to do that for ages with the better adaptors such as IR4PS3 & IR2BT etc.

Graham

but it's not shiny and harmony like the logitech!

crazed_z06
05-16-09, 04:02 PM
you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

Yes, it runs a Macro though.

TheMoose
05-16-09, 04:38 PM
you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

Yes it does, as mentioned the off function is a macro & it is mislabeled in the customize buttons area as power off but it will also power it on.

focker240
05-16-09, 05:44 PM
Got mine yesterday. Works great and looks sexy! Well worth the money!

T100
05-19-09, 08:59 AM
Mine came yesterday and it works great, it is actually on the floor about 3ft away from my PS3 (because of wall plug) and works all the commands that I need perfect. I did have a connection problem at first and called, she confirmed it was correctly set up and still would not work, so she asked me to unplug it and replug and it started working after that. Hope that helps someone if there setup doesn't work immediately.

Homebrew Racing
05-19-09, 05:22 PM
Forgive me if I missed the answer to this, but is the harmony unit firmware/software upgradeable? That's one thing I really like about the the schmart stuff adapter, is that I wouldn't have to worry about a PS3 update permanently breaking the IR adapter's functionality. Right now I'm torn between this and the schmart stuff adapter.

JChin
05-19-09, 05:56 PM
It's actually much smaller than I expected it to be from the pics I'd seen, it's just a bit larger than a mouse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/TheMoose/Home%20Theater/DSC02285.jpg

OK setup was easy took less than 1 min since I'd already added the PS3 to my device & made an activity!

Since I gave my Dad a PS3 for Blu-Rays & I gave him a 880 for his Birthday I'll probably get him one of these for fathers day!

The picture of the Sony Playstation 3 remote, does that not turn on and off the PS3?

remoteshoppe
05-19-09, 09:58 PM
Forgive me if I missed the answer to this, but is the harmony unit firmware/software upgradeable? That's one thing I really like about the the schmart stuff adapter, is that I wouldn't have to worry about a PS3 update permanently breaking the IR adapter's functionality. Right now I'm torn between this and the schmart stuff adapter.

The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.

remoteshoppe
05-19-09, 10:01 PM
The picture of the Sony Playstation 3 remote, does that not turn on and off the PS3?

The PS3 remote does give you full control but that defeats the purpose for having a universal remote. The purpose of the Harmony Adapter and the other IR to Bluetooth adapters is that you can now put that PS3 remote away and make your universal remote control everything - including the PS3.

JChin
05-19-09, 10:45 PM
The PS3 remote does give you full control but that defeats the purpose for having a universal remote. The purpose of the Harmony Adapter and the other IR to Bluetooth adapters is that you can now put that PS3 remote away and make your universal remote control everything - including the PS3.

Thanks shoppe but another question, can the PS3 remote be able to be program to control other components?

remoteshoppe
05-19-09, 11:04 PM
Thanks shoppe but another question, can the PS3 remote be able to be program to control other components?

Nope.

JChin
05-19-09, 11:56 PM
Nope.

Ok thanks.

The Tophinator
05-20-09, 03:35 AM
Mine is also on the way, that and a Harmony One to replace my 880. :D

Homebrew Racing
05-20-09, 07:27 AM
The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.

Much appreciated, I think that pretty much rules out the harmony for me. I don't know what the odds are of a PS3 update breaking things, but I'd rather not chance it.

TheMoose
05-20-09, 12:25 PM
The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.

Much appreciated, I think that pretty much rules out the harmony for me. I don't know what the odds are of a PS3 update breaking things, but I'd rather not chance it.

Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

MikeCandler
05-20-09, 01:26 PM
Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

True and if something did change I am sure they could work around it simply sending a different IR command to the unit so either way you look at it, it should be fine.
I got mine this morning will be testing it out after work.

Homebrew Racing
05-20-09, 02:43 PM
Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

I'm not sure what they could do to mess it up, but I could have a sworn an update killed some things in the early run of ir2bt adapters. I thought that was the big reason the updatability of the schmart stuff pro unit was such a big deal. I'll have to go back and read, but again I could have sworn it had happened in the past.

bryansj
05-20-09, 02:46 PM
Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

Something like what already happened with a device that is pretty much identical to this one.

http://www.ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189

I wonder if Bruce sold the IR2BT design to Logitech? That would explain the discontinuation of that unit and the upgraded IR2BTci.

I'm not sure what they could do to mess it up, but I could have a sworn an update killed some things in the early run of ir2bt adapters. I thought that was the big reason the updatability of the schmart stuff pro unit was such a big deal. I'll have to go back and read, but again I could have sworn it had happened in the past.

It isn't the IR codes that is the big deal, it is the BT pairing that can kill it.

remoteshoppe
05-20-09, 04:03 PM
Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

That's not true. The Sony controllers may be connected to a USB port on the PS3 and may be updated along with the PS3 unit itself. The Harmony has no upgrade capability at all.

Please don't misunderstand me... I'm not trying to sound like chicken little and scream "the sky is falling." I don't think Logitech would release a product like this unless they had some assurances from Sony that it would not be obsoleted in the near future. I was just trying to point out that there is in fact a reason that the Schmartz unit is more expensive. It's compatible with any remote, it's upgradeable, can store macros and has power sensing. Some people will pay more for those features, other's won't, I'm just trying to help everyone make an informed decision.

DeadPixelBuddy
05-21-09, 08:14 AM
Received my Harmony Adapter last night, and it worked perfectly with my Harmony One. I removed and re-added the PS3 to my device database, paired the adapter to the PS3, and ran through all the commands (On, Off, etc.). Another winner from Logitech (though I do wish it was about $20 cheaper).

There's nothing better than the wife's thumbs up when everything just works...it also guarantees more gadget purchases in my near future ;)

jeffthx
05-21-09, 02:04 PM
Has anyone tried this with a non-Harmony remote yet? I use a URC MX-3000 in my theater, and I'm currently using the Nyko IR USB receiver. I'd like to be able to add power and eject commands into my remote if possible.

It seems to me that this should be able to work with a non-Harmony remote, shouldn't it? If it receives IR commands (which are common), then I'd just need to enter the hex codes into my programming setup. I may try one out to see if I can get it to work (and return it if it doesn't), but I'd be interested to know what kind of results people are getting with a Pronto or URC.

jj

bryansj
05-21-09, 03:24 PM
Has anyone tried this with a non-Harmony remote yet? I use a URC MX-3000 in my theater, and I'm currently using the Nyko IR USB receiver. I'd like to be able to add power and eject commands into my remote if possible.

It seems to me that this should be able to work with a non-Harmony remote, shouldn't it? If it receives IR commands (which are common), then I'd just need to enter the hex codes into my programming setup. I may try one out to see if I can get it to work (and return it if it doesn't), but I'd be interested to know what kind of results people are getting with a Pronto or URC.

jj

Read post #16 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16446172#post16446172

ImaGoob
05-21-09, 03:32 PM
I love the PS3 adapter!! I initially had to go in and tweak the settings with some pauses to get things perfect. I also added an eject command for the off sequence. Works very nice, it ejects the disk then turns off.

Shame we have to spend $59 for a true PS3 solution but it does work nicely.

skro
05-21-09, 03:37 PM
I find it very odd (cheap) not to include the cable for connecting directly to the RF module.

I mean, I just purchased an 890 and the PS3 adapter, and they couldn't include the RF connection cable in either purchase. In fact, they don't even tell you what you need, they just tell you it isn't included. Thanks Harmony!

I did some digging and it looks like you need to purchase a 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable (not sure if it should be stereo or mono, or if that makes a difference). Pretty lame on harmony's part....such a cheap part that is going to be a minor heachache to anyone wanting to use it.

I'm just using IR from the RF module right now, but why even include the RF connection capability if you aren't going to include a cable, or even document what you need.

Other than that, it works really well!

bryansj
05-21-09, 03:59 PM
I did some digging and it looks like you need to purchase a 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable (not sure if it should be stereo or mono, or if that makes a difference). Pretty lame on harmony's part....such a cheap part that is going to be a minor heachache to anyone wanting to use it.

I don't have the Harmony PS3 adapter, but just take one of your IR emitter cables and plug the 3.5mm end into the PS3 adapter. If that fits then you need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm male/male stereo cable. If not then it would probably be 2.5mm to 3.5mm, but I doubt that is the case. 3.5mm is pretty much the standard for IR input/output jacks.

And you don't have to look beyond the PS3 itself for the definition of a company being cheap. At $399 you would think that a system marketed as the HD device of the future would include some sort of HD connecting cable!

skro
05-21-09, 05:47 PM
Yeah, it is definitely smaller, so it is a 2.5.

I still think this is worse than not including an HDMI cable....i'm sure they can be found, but i'll probably need to buy a cable (3.5) + adapter...a lot of annoyance for a ~$1 part.

Really, though, it isn't a big deal, I'll just keep using an IR extender cable from the RF module....basically, my point is that it seems odd to include the input, but to not include the cable, since you can just run one of the IR repeaters to the PS3 unit.

remoteshoppe
05-22-09, 12:18 AM
At $399 you would think that a system marketed as the HD device of the future would include some sort of HD connecting cable!

What about building the $399 unit without a simple IR receiver built into it - now THAT's cheap.

The Tophinator
05-22-09, 03:59 AM
I got mine in the mail tonight, set it up with my 880 and paired it to my PS3 and it works like a champ. I like it so much better than the Niko remote I had before.

Now I am patiently waiting for my Harmony one to arrive.

MikeCandler
05-22-09, 09:09 AM
Set mine up last night could not have been easier. Paired it, re-added the PS3 as a device and everything works perfectly. I moved around a few buttons but for the most parts is literally plug and play.

itsloud
05-22-09, 09:33 AM
Set mine up last night could not have been easier. Paired it, re-added the PS3 as a device and everything works perfectly. I moved around a few buttons but for the most parts is literally plug and play.

Ditto. Super happy. Works great even with my meager Harmony 360 Remote.

As for it not coming with the RF cable, 97% probably don't need it, so why incure any extra manufacturing cost?

skro
05-22-09, 02:40 PM
As for it not coming with the RF cable, 97% probably don't need it, so why incure any extra manufacturing cost?

I don't want to argue this too much, but why add the cost of adding the port on the unit, and not include a simple and cheap cable. No one needs it (IR works just fine), so why add the port? But since they did add it, why then ask the consumer to go out and buy a 3.5 mm cable, and a 2.5 - 3.5 mm adapter.

Either leave it out all together, or throw in the cable. It isn't a big deal, i'll just skip using it (and other would have no idea what to buy since they don't even tell you what you need in the documentation).

Enough of my complaining though...it is an awesome device.

JakiChan
05-23-09, 12:39 AM
Just out of curiosity, if I have the original IR2BT is there any reason to get this?

bryansj
05-23-09, 04:36 PM
Just out of curiosity, if I have the original IR2BT is there any reason to get this?

No.

taxman48
06-02-09, 02:07 PM
just ordered mine today, now if we could only find a remote that can take the movie out of the PS3 :D.. Using the Harmony 1000 for my remote..

Update: Amazon site said it will ship on 6/8, why the delay from the original order date of 6/2?

TomsHT
06-07-09, 01:34 PM
Has anyone got the PS3 adapter up and working with the Logitech Wireless Extender?

TomsHT
06-07-09, 06:36 PM
I have a ps3 in an mid atlantic equipment rack with faceplate. If im understanding this adapter correctly, its not actually connected to the PS3 and you have to put the adapter in front of the PS3, is this correct?

I was hoping to put the ps3 adapter behind the PS3 and then connect that adapter to the wireless extender.

SaltiDawg
06-07-09, 07:06 PM
I have a ps3 in an mid atlantic equipment rack with faceplate. If im understanding this adapter correctly, its not actually connected to the PS3 and you have to put the adapter in front of the PS3, is this correct?

I was hoping to put the ps3 adapter behind the PS3 and then connect that adapter to the wireless extender.
You do not have to put the Harmony PS3 adapter in front of the PS3. In fact you could put it in your pocket or any place else as long as it can receive your IR control signals.

The device receives IR and emits BT. BT is radio frequency energy and within reason will go thru walls or whatever on its way to the PS3.

Again, you can put the adapter behind the PS3 as long as it is able to receive the Harmony IR - either directly from the remote or RF wireless extender (either via blaster or wired emitter.)

taxman48
06-10-09, 01:32 PM
having trouble setting this up..Got the connection via PS3 and green light.. How do I add PS3 to Harmony remote account?

re-installed software,updated account and now it works perfect. Forgot to upgrade new tv..:D All commands work great..

TomsHT
06-10-09, 06:04 PM
In the software click add new device, game console, sony, PS3 done... enjoy

wbcollegekid
06-17-09, 12:29 PM
I tried using a 2.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable to connect the 2 together. I then went into device controls and told it to operate via the RF extender at the corresponding IR port. However, it did not work at all. Has anyone successfully connected the PS3 adapter to the RF extender. If so, what were your methods.
Thanks for any help.

TomsHT
06-17-09, 12:37 PM
I tried using a 2.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable to connect the 2 together. I then went into device controls and told it to operate via the RF extender at the corresponding IR port. However, it did not work at all. Has anyone successfully connected the PS3 adapter to the RF extender. If so, what were your methods.
Thanks for any help.

Do you really even need to connect it at all? Outside of my equipment rack I have the rf extender mounted with the emitter wires running into the rack and other components besides the ps3. I have the ps3 adapter mounted right beside the rf extender with nothing connected to it at all. The extender picks up the rf signal, transfers it to the adapter right beside it and then the adapter broadcasts in blutooth which goes thru the rack the same as an rf signal.

wbcollegekid
06-17-09, 12:51 PM
The purpose of RF is to hide everything and to remove line of sight. I suppose I could just use a repeater to send the signal.

TomsHT
06-17-09, 12:55 PM
The purpose of RF is to hide everything and to remove line of sight. I suppose I could just use a repeater to send the signal.

To clarify yes you can keep the rf extender out of sight, just put the ps3 adapter out of site right next to it.... the ps3 adapter doesnt need to sit right next to the ps3

sticks1839
06-17-09, 06:32 PM
I tried using a 2.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable to connect the 2 together. I then went into device controls and told it to operate via the RF extender at the corresponding IR port. However, it did not work at all. Has anyone successfully connected the PS3 adapter to the RF extender. If so, what were your methods.
Thanks for any help.

I just talked to Logitech about this issue. You need a mono 3.5mm cable for this work according to them. Most likely you were trying to use a stereo cable, since I can't seem to find 3.5mm mono cables anywhere.

Let us know if you get this working using mono cables.

djgcue
06-18-09, 04:19 PM
Monoprice is your best friend.

Just get the 3.5mm stereo cable, they will work fine.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218

bryansj
06-18-09, 04:24 PM
Monoprice is your best friend.

Just get the 3.5mm stereo cable, they will work fine.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218

I failed to find a 2.5mm to 3.5mm male/male mono cable from your link or anywhere on their website. Not that monoprice is bad, but read what the problem is next time.

Here is what I found:

"3.5mm female to 2.5mm male mono adapters"
http://www.provantage.com/cables-go-40630~7CBT918H.htm
http://www.summitsource.com/product_info.php?ref=1&products_id=8711

This whole thing is pretty stupid of Logitech. Would it have been that difficult to increase the plug size by 1mm?

djgcue
06-19-09, 04:18 PM
I failed to find a 2.5mm to 3.5mm male/male mono cable from your link or anywhere on their website. Not that monoprice is bad, but read what the problem is next time.

Here is what I found:

"3.5mm female to 2.5mm male mono adapters"
http://www.provantage.com/cables-go-40630~7CBT918H.htm
http://www.summitsource.com/product_info.php?ref=1&products_id=8711

This whole thing is pretty stupid of Logitech. Would it have been that difficult to increase the plug size by 1mm?

Take the stick out your ass! There's a 2.5mm adapter on the site but since your ingrate go find it yourself.

bryansj
06-19-09, 04:42 PM
Take the stick out your ass! There's a 2.5mm adapter on the site but since your ingrate go find it yourself.

Since you seem so willing to be helpful how about providing a link to the MONO 3.5mm female to 2.5mm male adapter that you speak of? And don't bother to PM me another reply since I have no need for this adapter.

I'll help your search a bit: This one is STEREO and not MONO http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040109&p_id=2780&seq=1&format=2

remoteshoppe
06-24-09, 09:59 AM
I failed to find a 2.5mm to 3.5mm male/male mono cable from your link or anywhere on their website. Not that monoprice is bad, but read what the problem is next time.

Here is what I found:

"3.5mm female to 2.5mm male mono adapters"
http://www.provantage.com/cables-go-40630~7CBT918H.htm
http://www.summitsource.com/product_info.php?ref=1&products_id=8711

This whole thing is pretty stupid of Logitech. Would it have been that difficult to increase the plug size by 1mm?

Hi Bryan- Did you try either of those adapters with any success? I'm especially curious about the Steren adapter from Summit because if I get confirmation that it works perfectly I'll do what Logitech neglected to do and just include one of them with every Harmony PS3 adapter we sell. I have a good source for Steren cables and I like to make sure customers have everything they need.

bryansj
06-24-09, 10:21 AM
I don't have the Logitech adapter, only the IR2BT (original). I was just trying to help out and find the correct part per the Logitech support call.

rolltide1017
06-28-09, 12:13 AM
I just bought the PS3 adapter and it is working great with my H1.

I noticed one weird thing though, when pressing "stop" the command sent last for 5 seconds (like you are holding the button down but, I'm not). Anyone know why they may have done this? Not a big deal, especially when watching a BD or DVD (anything on a disc) because it takes about that long fo the XMB to reload. However, when you watch a video stored directly on the PS3s hard drive, the XMB loads instantly and you can't use the remote until it is done sending the stop command (about 5 seconds). Is there a way to change this?

BlueHurricane
06-30-09, 09:22 AM
I am using an IR blaster system which is repeating the IR signals to another room. My question is can I use the 2.5 mini jack to hardwire the Harmony to my IR repeater which uses 3.5 mini on its blaster out ports? Or is that only good for RF?

TomsHT
06-30-09, 09:28 AM
I am using an IR blaster system which is repeating the IR signals to another room. My question is can I use the 2.5 mini jack to hardwire the Harmony to my IR repeater which uses 3.5 mini on its blaster out ports? Or is that only good for RF?

Logitechs RF wireles extender receives in RF but converts it and transmits IR to the components. So I would think this could work.

ImpetuousRacer
08-11-09, 03:39 AM
How can I setup the "Play DVD" activity to do additional steps?

The "Play DVD" activity is setup to power on TV, Receiver, Switch Receiver to DVD, power on PS3...

How do I add the Macro to then within the PS3, go to the DVD, and press play?

Would like to alleviate those couple of extra steps when I hit the Play DVD button.

Have the Harmony 720 and PS3 adapter.
Thanks in advance.

MikeCandler
08-17-09, 02:09 PM
Has anyone had issues with the PS3 losing sync with the Harmony unit? Not sure if it's actually because of the Harmony but it never happened in the past.
At least 3-4 times in the past month I have not been able to turn on the PS3 with the remote, everything else switches over...go over grab a standard remote and even it wont sync. Usually a power off/on solves the problem but just wanting to see if anyone else has had similar problems or not?

Legairre
08-17-09, 03:32 PM
Has anyone had issues with the PS3 losing sync with the Harmony unit? Not sure if it's actually because of the Harmony but it never happened in the past.
At least 3-4 times in the past month I have not been able to turn on the PS3 with the remote, everything else switches over...go over grab a standard remote and even it wont sync. Usually a power off/on solves the problem but just wanting to see if anyone else has had similar problems or not?I've had this problem too. My solution is to turn the PS3 on by touching the front power button. After that it's back in sync and will turn off with the 890's off button. Then, next time it turns on with the remote as it should. I think someone at the Logitech forums said that a router sitting too close to the PS3 adapter can cause this to happen from time to time. My router is about 4 ft away.

SaltiDawg
08-17-09, 04:37 PM
...
How do I add the Macro to then within the PS3, go to the DVD, and press play?

Would like to alleviate those couple of extra steps when I hit the Play DVD button. ...

My PS3 automatically plays any DVD when it is powered on. If yours does not, I'd poke around in the PS3 "Settings" menu.

MikeCandler
08-17-09, 04:51 PM
I've had this problem too. My solution is to turn the PS3 on by touching the front power button. After that it's back in sync and will turn off with the 890's off button. Then, next time it turns on with the remote as it should. I think someone at the Logitech forums said that a router sitting too close to the PS3 adapter can cause this to happen from time to time. My router is about 4 ft away.

Interesting, my router is about 15 feet away good to know I am not the only one seeing this happen from time to time.
The strange thing is this problem started after I hooked up the Harmony adapter previous to that I had my PS3 for well over a year without issue.

Legairre
08-17-09, 05:41 PM
My PS3 automatically plays any DVD when it is powered on. If yours does not, I'd poke around in the PS3 "Settings" menu.If you'd like the PS3 to log you in automatically and then auto play a disc these two links will to the trick.

Auto login is only needed if you have multiple users.

Auto Login:
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/users/login.html

Auto play (see: Disk Auto- start under System Settings)
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/index_system.html

Legairre
08-17-09, 05:52 PM
Interesting, my router is about 15 feet away good to know I am not the only one seeing this happen from time to time.
The strange thing is this problem started after I hooked up the Harmony adapter previous to that I had my PS3 for well over a year without issue.I've had my PS3 since launch and never had this issue either. It's a problem with the PS3 adapter messing up our PS3's from time to time.

MikeCandler
08-18-09, 09:23 AM
I've had my PS3 since launch and never had this issue either. It's a problem with the PS3 adapter messing up our PS3's from time to time.

Thanks, good to know I'm not alone and that its like you said something with the adapter. Its hardly a huge deal either

Legairre
08-18-09, 10:56 AM
Not a big deal for me either. For me it only happens a few times a month.

franlo10
08-18-09, 01:38 PM
I think someone at the Logitech forums said that a router sitting too close to the PS3 adapter can cause this to happen from time to time. My router is about 4 ft away.

I'll agree with the "this happens a few times a month". When I do have issues the PS3 turns on each time, but I don’t have any control over it after that with my remote(1100+RF wired directly to PS3 adaptor). My solution has also been to reboot the PS3 and everything works fine the next time. I just assumed that the adapter lost its Bluetooth sync with the PS3. My router is on another level of the house and not even remotely close to the PS3.

Louie

TomsHT
08-19-09, 07:09 AM
Ive had it happen a few times also but think it was more related to the PS3 not fully shutting off previously. One of the things I did to fix it was I changed one of the menu buttons on my activity screen to control the PS3 power command. Its a simple extra button to push if the PS3 doesnt turn on with the activity.