View Full Version : Here we go again..HDMI 1.4
Alan Gouger 05-14-09, 04:34 PM For those expecting your manufacture to update your product to HDMI 1.3 or if you are on the fence waiting for the next product release with 1.3 you are behind the times.
HDMI 1.4 is on the way. Some good news it will support 3d and 4096x2160.
2010 first products!
Cool! Max cable length= 10 inches! :)
They will have to move to fiber HDMI for this. Wired interfaces at 50 feet will never work. This and deep color...forget about it!
All you people who justified the outrageous cost of some of the HDMI cables out there on the basis that you were future proofing your theaters can throw your "investments" in the garbage if it is true that new cables are really needed. Thank you Monoprice.
I guess we will see 4k stuff in homes. People will say it is a waste and no one needs it and can't see the difference. That said, we will happily buy them when they come out.
mark haflich 05-14-09, 06:05 PM Hell. There is already a whole mess of no longer used RGB cables in my ceiling and many of my clients. But the new wires will be cheap compared to our shortly out of date projectors and our 1080p optimized screens and those obsoleted bluray discs Might as well skip 1.3 for what it gives you, really nothing of any practicality.I think it will help our economy recover though.
SteveMo 05-14-09, 07:12 PM Among movies slated for release with the new format is including the new Harry Potter movie shot by IMAX.
http://current.com/items/89210692_imax-to-release-a-harry-potter-replacement.htm
R Harkness 05-14-09, 07:31 PM I've just been "wired" for my new home theater room. I used the Blue Jeans Belden HDMI cables. Unfortunately I have a long cable run from my equipment room to my projector - 50 feet for the HDMI. Both my 50 foot and 60 foot HDMI cables pass all the HD signals. But I'm worried that at my cable lengths I might be sh#t outta luck if standards change and I have to pass even higher bandwidth/bit rates over 50 feet. :(
HDMI 1.4? We'll cross that bridge when it gets here. :)
SteveMo 05-14-09, 08:06 PM I've just been "wired" for my new home theater room. I used the Blue Jeans Belden HDMI cables. Unfortunately I have a long cable run from my equipment room to my projector - 50 feet for the HDMI. Both my 50 foot and 60 foot HDMI cables pass all the HD signals. But I'm worried that at my cable lengths I might be sh#t outta luck if standards change and I have to pass even higher bandwidth/bit rates over 50 feet. :(
I beleave that the down-coversion devices which will pass the signal to our non 1.4 HDMI or non 1480P devices will pass a similar 1.3a HDMI signal with 1080P.
Its never ending I will do my next upgrade when hdmi releases its 2.0 version!
troglobite 05-15-09, 12:42 AM . Some good news it will support 3d and 4096x2160.
2010 first products!
That's good news indeed! Now all we need is video processors which support said 4096x2160.
Begs the question. There is a new JVC Super HiVision prototype. I wonder what kind of connection is needed for 7680x4320?
Jason Turk 05-15-09, 09:56 AM Cool! Max cable length= 10 inches! :)
They will have to move to fiber HDMI for this. Wired interfaces at 50 feet will never work. This and deep color...forget about it!
Precious. :)
Stew4msu 05-15-09, 10:27 AM Already being discussed HERE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1144572)(and other threads).
Will it pass 120hz just in case by some miracle we get a VP that does it? :eek:
TF Ghost 05-15-09, 03:47 PM I've heard Monster cables are HDMI 1.5 certified.
Alan Gouger 05-15-09, 04:46 PM If 1.4 supports 3d and 4096x2160 I would take that as a sign good things are coming our way. Lets hope its not far distant.
W.Mayer 05-15-09, 05:10 PM at 4k seams 30 frames are the max.with hdmi 1.4
to bad i like to have 4k IN 3D at 2x 72 hz :)
more serious.
this will be the start for 4k pr. as this is the only possible way
that one cable will do 4k and no consumer pr. manufacturer
will release a pr. that need 2 or 4 dvi cables to display 4k content.
lets see what the prof. market will have for 4k content in future.
may sony will demo a first sample of a consumer 4k pr. this cedia.
if not they will have it 2010.
mark haflich 05-15-09, 07:35 PM Skipping S, why not? We went from composite to 3,4, and 5 composit wires to make the various incarnations of RGB and then more or less required three composite wires to make component. What's wrong with two hdmi wires? The problem would be making them the exact same length but that could be done internally with respect the various internal wires required to be the same length. We wouldn't blink at requiring two HDSI cables for the bandwidths we might need.
HDMI is what, already 19 conductors? At this point I would not really care if we needed 2 cables instead of one. I'd much rather increase the number of wires then try to increase the bit rate of the current wires. I just wish HDMI was optical to begin with. A pair of fiber cables could get us 10 Gbit/sec (in both directions) and likely way beyond, and we could have lengths would satisfy any installer.
Robert Whitehead 05-15-09, 07:42 PM Ghost-
Better yet, each Monster Cable is personally tested and certified by Noel Lee, using the Monster Cable Testing and Certification Machine.
mark haflich 05-15-09, 09:04 PM No it isn't. But hey Robert, let me know when they let you name a major city stadium after you. Seriously, I don't sell much monster but Noel is a good friend who I have known before the days he started Monster. He is a very successful marketer but his companies have introduced many innovations over the years and he has a history of helping out many in the audio industry during hard financial times with employment and consulting jobs. He is a tough financial competitor who tries to crush his competition and he is a tough guy to work for. He offered me a good job once and I turned him down. Why? Because we have been friends for over 25 years and if I went to work for him our friendship would end shortly thereafter.
RapalloAV 05-15-09, 11:06 PM Yes all the retailers will have another Field day!
mark haflich 05-16-09, 02:43 PM Hardly. HDMI was a big big pain in the early days. Most of the problems have been solved. A lot more wires were required in the pre HDMI days Analog transmissions are much more effected by wire parameters than digital by HDMI cable differences. Basically HDMI cable needs to be properly installed and be capable of carrying the required resolution (i.e., 1080p 60), the required distance.
I haven't had a HDMI issue (knock on wood) in quite some time... :eek:
All you people who justified the outrageous cost of some of the HDMI cables out there on the basis that you were future proofing your theaters can throw your "investments" in the garbage if it is true that new cables are really needed. Thank you Monoprice.....
Whew! I'm sure glad I'm running my signal via wire coat hangers. Guess I'll need to buy thicker hangers to take advantage of 3D.:)
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