Hello,
Im planning to get some GIK Acoustics bass traps for my room and have been wondering how many to get.. there are 3 corners in my room and one passage to get out of the room(photos attached) Im thinking one bass trap per corner right now.. My question is if i should treat the area leading out of the basement with the bass trap as well and if so what would be the ideal location for its placement. Thanks in advance!!

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I see at least 11 corners.

I see at least 11 corners.

Not to be rude, but how does that answer help? I think its pretty obvious on which corners im referring to.

Well, it should help on a couple of fronts.

1. You said you had 3 corners. That's not true.
2. You said you wanted 1 bass trap per corner and were wondering how many to get. The answer is between 3 - 11.

Put them in the largest corners i think those Gik traps would be too big to fit in those little ones. Also try to put a few in the wall to ceiling corners. This might help too http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acoustics/gik-tri-trap

Since I am basically really cheap, I would start with one, probably in a rear corner. Then keep going until whatever issue you are working on is resolved. VERY nice room.

Since I am basically really cheap, I would start with one, probably in a rear corner. Then keep going until whatever issue you are working on is resolved. VERY nice room.

And your advice is based on what?:rolleyes:

Shipping prices alone are enough to make you rethink that plan.
Peaks, nulls and dips are what bass traps help alleviate.....all rooms have this problem.
1 bass trap....why would you even bother? That wouldnt even begin to help with the acoustical issues.


Daman, did you email GIK with pics of your room and see what they recommend? Take that into consideration and go with what your budget allows.

Good luck

Sweet looking room...love the colors, lighting, and setup.

Excellent advice given by Yosh70

Yosh,
Based on just basic trial and error type engineering. No description of the magnitude or specifics of the problems. No mention the OP has measurement capabilities. Would one trap do anything? Answer is : it depends. No info presented on shipping one vs more etc. No information on the performance of the trap he mentions. So, without more data, I would go slow. Just my way of doing things. Overkill has it's advantages, but it has disadvantages too.

Another question, Yosh, if you have some experience to suggest how many square feet trap exposure per size or configuration, or any other guideline from experience or testing, I would love to see your recommendations. I am planning an in-attic trap for my main room with about 50 sq ft exposure along the rear ceiling corner. I have no idea how effective it will be other than some encouragement from one respected manufacturer.

Yosh,
Based on just basic trial and error type engineering. No description of the magnitude or specifics of the problems. No mention the OP has measurement capabilities. Would one trap do anything? Answer is : it depends. No info presented on shipping one vs more etc. No information on the performance of the trap he mentions. So, without more data, I would go slow. Just my way of doing things. Overkill has it's advantages, but it has disadvantages too.

I've been taught that trapping for bass is very difficult to go overkill on. Ya know, a couple of AVSers who are pretty serious about measuring the impacts of treatments, and their placement, have mebbe 40 panels!

The smaller the room, the more bass trapping becomes imperative.

I've read on at least one occasion that if trapping only occurs on one wall, the front wall might benefit the most.

The GIK tritrap looks like it could fit at the corner between floor and front wall. Maybe even two of them?

I'd definitely contact GIK. bpape works for them, and he has a pretty solid grasp on this kind of thing. You can try PMing him here.

Daman, have you ever considered replacing your center speaker with an identical speaker to the mains. If it was me, there is no doubt, at all, that is what I would do. Even if that meant moving the screen up a bit, or even changing out all three to a shorter set of three. I would if I didn't have an enormous screen.

Put them in the largest corners i think those Gik traps would be too big to fit in those little ones. Also try to put a few in the wall to ceiling corners. This might help too http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acoustics/gik-tri-trap
Thanks a lot.. well i think the Tri traps are a bit costly for me so i was aiming for their 244 bass traps instead that i can corner mount. I can get 6 of those(and treat 3 corners with them) for 50 bucks more than 2 tri traps.

Since I am basically really cheap, I would start with one, probably in a rear corner. Then keep going until whatever issue you are working on is resolved. VERY nice room.
:) Thanks a lot for the comment about the room.. well they sell them in set of 2 traps per box. I have not had the chance to run True RTA yet but will do so soon. I'm very sure the room will benefit some from the traps even before measuring it.
And your advice is based on what?:rolleyes:

Shipping prices alone are enough to make you rethink that plan.
Peaks, nulls and dips are what bass traps help alleviate.....all rooms have this problem.
1 bass trap....why would you even bother? That wouldnt even begin to help with the acoustical issues.


Daman, did you email GIK with pics of your room and see what they recommend? Take that into consideration and go with what your budget allows.

Good luck
Thanks a lot Yosh, yes i did email GIK but have not heard back from them yet. I agree with your comment about 1 bass trap, i aim to treat at least 3 corners and might end up getting 6 244's to cover from floor to ceiling.

Sweet looking room...love the colors, lighting, and setup.

Excellent advice given by Yosh70
Thanks Max!
I've been taught that trapping for bass is very difficult to go overkill on. Ya know, a couple of AVSers who are pretty serious about measuring the impacts of treatments, and their placement, have mebbe 40 panels!

The smaller the room, the more bass trapping becomes imperative.

I've read on at least one occasion that if trapping only occurs on one wall, the front wall might benefit the most.

The GIK tritrap looks like it could fit at the corner between floor and front wall. Maybe even two of them?

I'd definitely contact GIK. bpape works for them, and he has a pretty solid grasp on this kind of thing. You can try PMing him here.

Daman, have you ever considered replacing your center speaker with an identical speaker to the mains. If it was me, there is no doubt, at all, that is what I would do. Even if that meant moving the screen up a bit, or even changing out all three to a shorter set of three. I would if I didn't have an enormous screen.
Thanks Josten.. I did contact GIK, hoping to hear back from them soon. If i don't then ill ping bpape, thanks for the info!

I do intend to trap the front left corner of the room but wondering what/where to place the traps on the right front side of the room as there is no actual corner there.
I have read about the debate/argument for the center being the same as mains but honestly im very happy with its performance and it's basically the same as the mains(same drivers-just horizontal configuration). Plus its kind of hard to find a single main's as Dali sells them in pairs. But i do appreciate the advice !

Went to look at the specific trap the OP mentioned, but the GIK site hangs my browser.

Went to look at the specific trap the OP mentioned, but the GIK site hangs my browser.

Try this direct link maybe http://www.gikacoustics.com/gik_244.html

Yosh.. Bryan(bpape) did email me back and im discussing with him on what he thinks will work the best with my room and within my budget. Once i settle on something ill update this thread with his recommendations! Thanks a lot for the help.

Thanks a lot.. well i think the Tri traps are a bit costly for me so i was aiming for their 244 bass traps instead that i can corner mount. I can get 6 of those(and treat 3 corners with them) for 50 bucks more than 2 tri traps.


Make your own and save $$$$...For around $400 you can have the best corner traps period...with nice fabric.

Hi Daman

In addition to what we've discussed, the idea of potentially adding some Tri Traps horizontally along the front wall is a good one. I know we're being budget conscious right now - just something to consider down the road.

Bryan

Hi Daman

In addition to what we've discussed, the idea of potentially adding some Tri Traps horizontally along the front wall is a good one. I know we're being budget conscious right now - just something to consider down the road.

Bryan

Thanks a lot for your help Bryan, i guess we will be going in with 2 244's at the front and one tri trap each in the rear corners of the room. I can hardly wait but the wife insists :(

I will report back in this thread with my impressions once i get it.

Somehow I don't understand how a 5 inch thick panel will be effective as a bass trap below 80 Hz as it says, unless it traverses a corner and has some filling behind it. Not disparaging the product, just I don't understand. When I think of a bass trap, I think of a 2 foot diagonal across the corner of solid compressed mn or fg.

If you're referring to the 24 panel, it's 4" of insulation with a 1.5" air gap behind it. We also work a bit of a damped membrane into the picture.

That has been tested to be effective down into the subwoofer range via standardized tests in accredited labs.

While corners are good places since they're at the end of multiple room dimensions, there are other places in the room that can help specific bass response issues. Sure, if the panel was a foot thick it would reach deeper yet - but that's not terribly WAF friendly ;) This is a good compromise between performance and aesthetics at a reasonable cost.

Bryan