Has anyone used a subwoofer with the Kuro PRO-111FD using the subwoofer outlet sans receiver. Until I have the financial resources to get a HTS I'm leaning towards using a subwoofer with the Elite and was wondering if anyone could give me some ideas, suggestions...point me towards some products. Budget $300. Thanks!

I looked at the manual and it says very little about the sub out other than you don't need it if you are connecting to a receiver. It doesn't say if there are any controls or if the output is full range or low passed. You will probably need a sub with a built in crossover or get a receiver with bass management and use the optical optput.

I use the 151fd sub out into the lfe sub in on the subwoofer. I run the volume of the sub around 20, and then it changes with the tv's volume. I am using a DD18 that has been eq'd to match the tv, and room.

Look for a sub with lfe input, as without a reciever, it will not sound good off the tv speaker rca outputs.

I am etremely happy with the sound from the elite in 2.1, it puts some home systems to shame. It is missing a bit of mid bass, but the bottom, mid, and top is sweet.

300 bones is going to get you a cheap sub. So your results need to be put into perspective for that price. 10" with lfe is likely best for you.

I use the 151fd sub out into the lfe sub in on the subwoofer. I run the volume of the sub around 20, and then it changes with the tv's volume. I am using a DD18 that has been eq'd to match the tv, and room.

Look for a sub with lfe input, as without a reciever, it will not sound good off the tv speaker rca outputs.

I am etremely happy with the sound from the elite in 2.1, it puts some home systems to shame. It is missing a bit of mid bass, but the bottom, mid, and top is sweet.

300 bones is going to get you a cheap sub. So your results need to be put into perspective for that price. 10" with lfe is likely best for you.Are there and settings for bass management, distance, or channel volume for the sub out on the TV? I searched the manual for 'subwoofer' and only found where to connect. Is the signal low passed or full range? Without any obvious settings on the TV, I assume you had to use all the settings on the DD.

The subwoofer out is an lfe channel. It sends a variable output based on tv volume. It is 80hz and under channel. I am not using the subs crossover. With movies only low sound effects come through the lfe, so it is not directional at all. I tried using the subs crossover, and I was getting too much main channel information on the sub. Even with the subs filter at 80 hz, I was getting some directional information from the sub. Maybe the slope was not steep enough.

Without a reciever, it was night and day. For now the lfe blows the other connection out of the water. Likely with a 5.1 and a reciever the reciever setup to sub will be the best choice.

Does anyone here know if there exists a subwoofer that matches with the Pioneer PRO-111FD stylistically? You know, sharp lines/corners, all black, maybe glossy?

Does anyone here know if there exists a subwoofer that matches with the Pioneer PRO-111FD stylistically? You know, sharp lines/corners, all black, maybe glossy?

Like this?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/Speakers/Plasma+Matching+Speakers/ci.S-LX70.Kuro