My company is trying to unload an XGA high definition monitor (made by Monivision) it doesn't want any more. I think they'll might sell it to me for about $20. It's a 32 inch screen, and heavy, so I assume it's a CRT type of screen.

It looks like the port I need to use is a VGA port (15 pins shaped like a trapezoid).

If I get a universal VGA box, can I put that in between my TiVoHD and the monitor, and it'll work? Will the monitor display HD quality? (I don't own any HD TVs, so this would be my first experience with HD.)

I do notice though that the screen ratio looks like 4:3, not 16:9, so I wonder will be a problem with attempting to see HD content on it.

I also see that the monitor has stereo audio inputs, so it looks like I can get sound from it too.

My company bought this monitor in late 2001 after the 9-11 scare, because they had plans on replacing airplane trips with video teleconferencing, but they kind of flaked out on that idea, and they're back to airplane trips, and they don't want this monitor anymore. They tried selling it on Craigslist but got no takers, so I'm wondering if I should snag it.

In any case get the monitor. The VGA input can do 1080p+ resolutions, and i believe this HDFury (http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDfury-1080P-HDMI-Converter-Transcoder/dp/B000SOPWS8) should do the trick.

16:9 will not be a problem. It's a monitor, it can be calibrated. :)

Question, I've been using this HDfury chip for a long time now, and it works great, but now I want to be able to connect a VCR and or DVD to my monitor, so I need some kind of adapter that accepts the red/white/yellow wires as input and feed it to my monitor.

the HDfury chip converts HDMI to VGA, so I guess depending on where I'd stick the new adapter, it would need the ability to convert the red/white/yellow either VGA or HDMI.

I found this interesting adapter: http://www.curtpalme.com/RTC2200.shtm

But it looks like red/green/blue (component input)... I need the red/white/yellow.

The three red/yellow/white cables are one intended for composite video, one for left audio and one for right. With yPbPr the red/green/blue wires are all for video and usually there'll be two more for audio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

The colour of the RCA plug is cosmetic only and doesn't make any difference to what's being carried over the cable, although RCA cables made for yPbPr component are sometimes of a higher production quality than those made for composite. yPbPr and composite may both go over RCA but the quality of composite is substantially inferior to yPbPr. yPbPr can handle HD and progressive scan whereas composite is limited to 480i/576i.

Are you sure your monitor doesn't support composite? The specifications for a 34" model of Monovision XGA says it does support AV-in on the front panel. If not, there are plenty of composite to VGA, and composite to HDMI adaptors out there to hook up your VHS.

DVDs and Blu-rays over composite would be nasty and even worse with a composite to VGA adatper.

If you got a cheap Blu-ray player with HDMI you may be able to pair that with the HDFury to play DVDs. Don't get a Samsung as those are infamous for forcing 1080p over HDMI. This can be a problem if your display doesn't support 1080p but your STB forces it because the HDFury says its available - the HDFury3 has a disable-1080p switch and the HDfury2 could do this via a hack. Your display may manage 720p and 1080i if you're moderately lucky but I doubt it'll do 1080p.

The HDFury3 is supposed to give better display quality than the original. There's a HDFury4 supposed to come out next month too so the price might drop.

based on your decription, I googled and found this dirt cheap adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/VGA-Adapter-S-Video-Cable-Video/dp/B003QNFHWE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1314809045&sr=8-4

It's only $2.70 Can somebody confirm is this does what I suspect, which is take a composite signal out of an old style VCR and convert it to VGA, which I can then send to the monitor?

I know it sounds like an antiquated thing to so on an HD monitor like this, but we just moved to a new house, and my wife wants this monitor in the main living room, so not only will we use it to watch HD content through our TiVo, but my 11 year old son has a large collection of VHS tapes and old pre-bluray-technoligy DVD discs he like to play. (He rarely watches live TV or the TiVo.) Those recordings are already low res, so cheap composite wires is all I need to carry the signal.

This this $2.70 adapter will do the job, then the next thing I'll be looking for is a A/B VGA switch so we can choose if the signal source is coming from the VCR, DVD, or through the HDfury chip/TiVo.

Oh, it looks like this A/B switch costs $14.65, so that seems affordable.

http://www.amazon.com/2-1-VGA-Switchbox-DB15/dp/B000BSN1NE/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314809587&sr=1-2

Oh, reading the description on the adapter, it converts VGA to composite + S-video, but I want to go the opposite direction. I wonder if those converters are bidirectional, so that I can convert from composite to VGA.

Oh, reading the description on the adapter, it converts VGA to composite + S-video, but I want to go the opposite direction. I wonder if those converters are bidirectional, so that I can convert from composite to VGA.
That is just a cable, will not work since the VGA, SVideo and Composite signals are different. You need an actual conversion or upscaler box to change the signals electronically. As for the VGA A-B switch, they work fine for selecting a VGA source.

Okay, after doing some more googling, I found this one for $33.60 + zero shipping:

http://www.amazon.com/Composite-S-Video-Converter-Screen-Version/dp/B003NUN7DG/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314813428&sr=1-18

It says it's a converter, so I'm hoping this fits the bill. I see it only converts the yellow composite (video), which is fine really, because I can always connect the red and white outputs from my device to the stereo, and get the sound to play through the stereo. It also coverts S-video, which I don't care about.

Of course this means now I'll not only need a VGA A/B switch, but also a composite A/B switch, so when we switch from TiVo to VCR, we'll have to flip both A/B switches, which is kind of cumbersome. Wait, since I have a DVD and VCR, maybe I need an A/B/C composite switch. I guess it can be the audio from TiVo, DVD, and VCR all going to this A/B/C switch, and the output straight to the stereo. But the video can come from DVD and VCR, with the third yellow port unused, and the output go to the VGA converter.

So it sounds like it can all be done by flipping two switches: a VGA A/B switch, and a composite A/B/C switch.

I see it only converts the yellow composite (video), which is fine really, because I can always connect the red and white outputs from my device to the stereo, and get the sound to play through the stereo. It also coverts S-video, which I don't care about.

So it sounds like it can all be done by flipping two switches: a VGA A/B switch, and a composite A/B/C switch.
Yes you can switch the differnet components first before going into the convertor box. However, Composite is not that good, I would try to get at least SVideo.

Does your TIVO support Component or HDMI output? Those are the best since they can do 480p up to 1080p. A cleaner signal to convert to the monitor. Why not play the DVD movies with direct VGA cleaner signal from your PC?

I converted my N64 game console to a VGA monitor. It supports SVideo and looked okay converted. The Dreamcast which supports 640x480 VGA looked so much better, not because of a newer console but in the crispness of the video.

based on your decription, I googled and found this dirt cheap adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/VGA-Adapter-S-Video-Cable-Video/dp/B003QNFHWE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1314809045&sr=8-4
That is a mechcanical adapter meant for specific PC video cards. It won't work with anything else.

I know it sounds like an antiquated thing to so on an HD monitor like this, but we just moved to a new house, and my wife wants this monitor in the main living room, so not only will we use it to watch HD content through our TiVo, but my 11 year old son has a large collection of VHS tapes and old pre-bluray-technoligy DVD discs he like to play. (He rarely watches live TV or the TiVo.) Those recordings are already low res, so cheap composite wires is all I need to carry the signal.
I need to emphasise that composite and S-video won't carry HD. They won't even carry progressive scan.
Composite is fine for VHS as that is the best output for nearly all VHS players.

Watching DVDs or general digital broadcasts on a big screen TV hooked up via composite would be crazy. Doing so when the composite is being transcoded to VGA is even worse. Interlaced, dot-crawled, transcoded, rescaled SD video on a 32" monitor is going to look really bad and does not do either the source material of the monitor justice. If this display does not do internal reprocessing, it isn't going to obscure defects like composite's dot crawl either.

Could you please tell us what model of Monovision this is? Because from what I am seeing they typically have connectors other than VGA already. Usually presentation monitors were aimed at professionals and had a wide selection of inputs.

If your Tivo has HDMI or DVI then you could make use of the HDFury. Even 480p/576p via that route would look so much better than composite.

A computer with VGA, or DVI or HDMI + HDFury and set to 640x480 output should be ok for DVDs, although now I think of it your Monovision probably supports 1024x768 progressive from VGA. Some PC video chipsets are bad at VGA though. Personally I would get a Blu-ray player with HDMI to pair with a HDFury (they also play DVDs).

I do notice though that the screen ratio looks like 4:3, not 16:9, so I wonder will be a problem with attempting to see HD content on it.
Nearly all equipment will let you letterbox 16:9 material on a 4:3 display. There were 4:3 HD televisions. Not many, but they exist.

The model of my monitor is: model DM-6952S

I don't remember seeing any other inputs on it beside the VGA. So you're saying there's a way to get an SD DVD to connect through the HD fury chip? I haven't bought any adapters yet, so there's still time for me to do this the right way.

Oh, I just reread your point about getting a blueray with HDMI. That's certainly an idea. If I did that, I'd want a way to select the source (maybe there's such a thing as an HDMI A-B switch I could buy), but I'd still be left without a way to get the VCR to work. (Unless I buy the equipment in my above post. Not the one you say is a cable only, but the second link I posted, which claims it's a converter.) Plus my existing DVD player burns as well as plays, so I don't know how expensive it would be to get a blueray DVD burner.

Still, I figured if I'm going to solve the VCR problem, I can use that solution to also solve the DVD problem, but I infer from your comments that using the same solution will yield bad video quality on the DVDs, so that ideally I should use different solutions for each.

My mother-in-law likes to complain about all the complicated wiring and switch pressing needed to watch my equipment (I think she worries about my autistic 11 year old son figuring it out), but I think she underestimates my son's intelligence.

Sorry, I did not notice this thread came from three years ago! I also came across your post on Curtpalme about how you're using the TiVo in HD via the HDFury.

I've found the manual for the Monivision DM-6952S. Were you not given a copy? According to the manual, your television has composite and S-video inputs on the back panel. The specifications also list support for YPbPr aka component but that isn't shown on the back-panel diagram so I am not sure about that one.

The diagram also lists RCA stereo-out which you can use to connect up an external sound system or headphones with less fuss.

The composite should be good for the VHS, and the S-video or YPbPr could be used for the DVD. YPbPr is preferable but S-video is Ok. The main advantage to YPbPr is that players that support it usually do progressive aka 480p/576p-out over it which gives better quality for all but the worst discs. S-video will be 480i/576i-only.

It is possible to buy HDMI switches. There are even ones with remote controls.

The manual says it supports 1080i and 720p so you should be able to play Blu-rays in HD on it. Now I think of it, there were DVD Recorder / VHS all-in-one units with HDMI-out that should be fairly cheap second hand if your display really has no connectors but VGA + your HDFury.

You're lucky to have this display. Presentation displays are rare and sought after by videophiles and gamers. It's a really a high-end TV / computer monitor combo. It's something I'd want to fix instead of dispose of if it ever broke down.

I think I might have a manual but I'm not sure, but I haven't yet found it; I just moved to a new house, and I have many boxes packed away, and I don't know what box it's in. (I probably have several dozen boxes to unpack.)

If I remember correctly, these extra connecters you speak are part of an optional package I don't have. I looked again, and I really see no input at all but the VGA input, which is in the back of the monitor. There's a few outputs, like a VGA output, and audio output, but no extra inputs.

Well, I'm trying to find a DVD burner / VCR combo with HDMI output, and my local fryes electronics that supposedly has a large selection doesn't sell it.

But I found a "Magnavox Refurbished DVD Recorder and VCR Combo With Remote - Magnavox RZV427MG9" on amazon.com for $64.99 + $7.19 shipping

But when I look at the manual, it says the HDMI is for DVD only, but it has the red/white/yellow output I can used for VHS.

Question: Do they even make combos like this where both VHS and DVDs can play via HDMI? Because if they don't, I'll still need a way to convert the VHS signal to either HDMI or VGA.

I think I just found the answer to my question. the "Samsung DVD-VR375/DVD-VR375A Tunerless DVD Recorder VHS Combo" available on amazon.com for $72.00 refurbished + $12.99 shipping, according to the owners manual, can play back both DVD and VHS through the HDMI cable. It claims that it handles an internal analog to digital conversion of the signal to accomplish this. That sounds great to me.

I notice it also has composite output as well, so I'm assuming I can use that for the audio, since I want to route the audio to my stereo via composite.

So with this setup, I think all I'll need is an HDMI A/B switch to handle the input coming from this unit vs from TiVo, and also a composite A/B switch (which I already have one) to handle choosing the audio source to to my stereo.

So I guess my total cost for this project should be about $72 + $12.99 + cost of an HDMI A/B switch, so this seems acceptable.

Edit: I found a used one for $39.99 + shipping, which claims to be fully functional, showing only the very slightest signs of use/wear. It doesn't include the manual or original box, but does include the remote, so this might be a good deal. (I can download the manual for free.) I read the reviews of the seller and they seem good and reputable.

It's surprising they would sell a presentation monitor with only VGA.

I recommend spending a little more and getting an HDMI switch with a remote control and 5 inputs as that gives more convenience and future options.

Wait, as I look I see something else that might be an alternate input. It's labeled "video converter IO", and it looks like a long thin rectangle with a 2 x 15 grid of small holes. It's not trapezoidal like computer monitor ports usually are; it's perfectly rectangular, and the two rows of holes are orthogonally lined up, not diagonally. There's a label next it that says:

WARNING: The connector only can be connected to the "power and signal connector" of our visionbox. Incorrect connection may cause device damaged.

I think that visionbox thing they're talking about is some kind of equipment that my employer had that went with the monitor - it was part of a video teleconferencing system they had.

I don't know if that wierd connector port would be useful to me or not.

I also just realized today that I'm going to want to hook up my wii to this monitor. I have an idea that might work. The way the wii outputs is from a port that contains what looks like a small card with 8 pins on each side, and there's a special cord that came with the wii that has a socket on one end that plugs into that slot, and the other side of the cord is the regular red/white/yellow composite.

This DVD burner/VHS combo unit I'm buying has composite inputs and outputs, and also HDMI output. I wonder if I could plug the wii video (yellow) cable into this combo unit, and have it pass through and out to the HDMI cable and onto my monitor, and then also pass the red/white wires to a video selector that then goes to my stereo.

One problem with this is that the red/white/yellow connectors on the wii cable are fairly close together, but the DVD/VHS combo probably won't be close enough to my video selector to make this work. I suspect there's such a thing as a coupler that will extend the length of the yellow wire that could solve the problem. I do have an extra video-only composite cable lying around, but no coupler.

On another note, my wife and her mother both suggest I dump the monitor and buy a regular HD TV that has more common inputs, but I kind of like this monitor, and why spend a bunch of money buying an HD TV? I think all these wires and connectors is a less expensive solution than buying a whole new TV. And I already own most of the wires I need. I might have to buy a coupler and an HDMI switch. I might have to buy an HDMI switch anyway, even were I to replace the monitor with and HDTV, unless I were to distribute the signal all with composite wires (since I already own composite video selectors and composite wires), but I have a feeling that that wouldn't do justice to an HD signal. So really, the accessories are kind of moot, and it's a waste of money to buy an HD TV when I already have this monitor.

Ah, that Visionbox may have had the alternative connectors on it. I don't know what kind of connector that is.

I also just realized today that I'm going to want to hook up my wii to this monitor.
That should be easy as the Wii natively supports 480p output over VGA. The quality is far better from VGA than from composite. You only need to buy a Wii VGA cable and set 480p and the aspect ratio in the preferences. There seem to be many Wii cable options out there of poor quality so be selective.

On another note, my wife and her mother both suggest I dump the monitor and buy a regular HD TV that has more common inputs, but I kind of like this monitor, and why spend a bunch of money buying an HD TV?
What you have got actually is a HD TV - it does 1080i and 720p natively. It probably has nearly no delay for gaming with the Wii unlike most available today. Nearly all LCD TVs and cheaper plasmas won't give a picture as realistic as a HD CRT.


This lists info about Monivision monitors
www.tronlink.com/svgamoni.htm

Thanks for that handy advice. I didn't know wii could output to VGA.

You're lucky to have this display. Presentation displays are rare and sought after by videophiles and gamers. It's a really a high-end TV / computer monitor combo. It's something I'd want to fix instead of dispose of if it ever broke down.no

that monitor is 1024x768 4:3 not even close to hd. not worth messing with IMO.

^HD is technically 720p and any monitor capable of doing 1024x768 can do any resolution 1xxx x 720p so that monitor IS 720p compatible and therefore a HDTV. 1080p is useless anyways when u are 10 feet away. Unless you are an eagle, you won't be able to see any difference.

And by the way 4:3 Monitors have complete advantages over 16:9 ones. A 4:3 32" monitor has over 50cubic inches more screen area than a 32" 16:9. You'd need a 34" 16:9 to equal the 4:3 one. And that also means a perfectly filled screen on older games and any console able to output 4:3 content. No need to mess around with the service menu in monitors. U change size, width, etc, etc. all on the remote or the on-screen menu.

Zindar, get an amplified VGA switch box and plug your PC, the WII, an XBOX 360, etc. etc. in VGA and also u can have RGB to VGA converters for the SNES, the N64 and consoles like the dreamcast. A monitor is always better than any CRT or LCD or plasma cause u have no digital loss in scaling and the like.

no

that monitor is 1024x768 4:3 not even close to hd. not worth messing with IMO.
It is a 52KHz multisync monitor. 1080i only needs 33.75KHz, which is the fixed native frequency of Sony HD CRT TVs like the XBR960. They were advertising 1024x768p because that was the highest standard PC display mode at the time it could do; even a few years ago many display drivers didn't list 720p as an option. Progressive modes on CRTs require the display to do more work than interlaced display modes. Few CRT TVs were either multisync or able to do HD in progressive.

Generally computer monitors from the Windows 3.1 era onwards were progressive because early interlaced monitors were horrible for word processing. The larger the monitor, the harder to have a high KHz rate, so 52KHz on a bigscreen TV is a rarity.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14543983#post14543983
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=206854

Zindar, your monitor should be able to manage quite high resolutions in interlaced mode when plugged into a computer. Powerstrip is supposed to be good for that.

The larger the monitor, the harder to have a high KHz rate, so 52KHz on a bigscreen TV is a rarity.

Yep! That's why I cherish my 100Khz NEC XP37 Xtra :D (36'' viewable)

yea hd starts at 1280x720 and that monitor is not so its not hd .its Extended Graphics Array.Just because it will accept a hd signal dose not mean it is HD.

It takes a multisync CRT less effort to do 1080i than 1024x768p.

I'm happy: my DVD/VCR combo I just bought works, and both media types do go through the HDMI output successfully to my monovision.

I also by the way, noticed that if I plug my Wii red/white/yellow into the DVD/VCR composite input, it pipes the audio out to my stereo and the video through the HDMI correctly, so my Wii is playable as is. I realize that if I take the advice of this thread and buy a wii VGA output cable and go straight to the monovision, maybe I'll get a better quality signal though.

I would because through VGA you can set the Wii to do 480p whereas composite is limited to 480i and has dot crawl and is going through an unnecessary conversion step.

yea hd starts at 1280x720 and that monitor is not so its not hd .its Extended Graphics Array.Just because it will accept a hd signal dose not mean it is HD.
If it supports 768 lines vertical it is HD. Horizontal resolution has no meaning whatsoever. The monitor can easily accept 1280x720p and has enough pixels to render it after adjusting heigt and width for 4:3. The max horizontal resolution is determined by horizontal frequency. 1280x720 requires 45khz horizontal and 60hz vertical. Your max is 52khz so no problem there.

Here's a nice chart to know what resolutions your monitor supports. always check the horizontal frequency. You will see that it tops at 1024x768 at 60hz.... but it can easily do 720p @ 60hz at 45khz horizontal.
http://www.bolandeurope.com/more/Supported%20Modes/SupportedModes.pdf

If it supports 768 lines vertical it is HD. Horizontal resolution has no meaning whatsoever. The monitor can easily accept 1280x720p and has enough pixels to render it after adjusting heigt and width for 4:3. The max horizontal resolution is determined by horizontal frequency. 1280x720 requires 45khz horizontal and 60hz vertical. Your max is 52khz so no problem there.

Here's a nice chart to know what resolutions your monitor supports. always check the horizontal frequency. You will see that it tops at 1024x768 at 60hz.... but it can easily do 720p @ 60hz at 45khz horizontal.
http://www.bolandeurope.com/more/Supported%20Modes/SupportedModes.pdf
720p is the shorthand name for a category of HDTV video modes having a resolution of 1280×720 (for a total of 0.92 megapixels or 921,600 pixels) and a progressive scan. The number 720 stands for the 720 horizontal scan lines of display resolution (also known as 720 pixels of vertical resolution), while the letter p stands for progressive scan or non-interlaced. When broadcast at 60[note 1] frames per second, 720p features the highest temporal (motion) resolution possible under the ATSC and DVB standards.

720i (720 lines interlaced) is an erroneous term found in numerous sources and publications. Typically, it is a typographical error in which the author is referring to the 720p HDTV format. However, in some cases it is incorrectly presented as an actual alternative format to 720p.[2] In fact, no proposed or existing broadcast standard permits 720 interlaced lines in a video frame at any frame rate.[3

your wrong-

In what way am I wrong hahahahah :D I did not talk about any 720i resolution. Nobody uses 720i and it never existed as far as I know. I don't care for nonexistent TV resolutions. 1280x720 is ALWAYS PROGRESSIVE in VGA, DVI, or RGB or YPbPr (component).

And by the way, we are not talking about a fixed pixel TV like Plasma or LCD here. This is multisync CRT. Max resolution is determined by the Max horizontal frequency in Khz (which is 52khz in his case). These kinds of monitors have no maximum resolution.. it depends on the drivers on the CRT and the processors.

Remember that his monitor supports 1024x768 PROGRESSIVE not interlaced. Interlaced is only for 480i or 1080i. No monitor EVER uses interlaced, its just useless.

720p
One of three currently used formats designated as high-definition television in the ATSC DTV standard, this technology comprises 720 vertical pixels and 1,280 horizontal pixels. The p stands for progressive, as opposed to interlaced, scanning, which is used in one of the other accepted HDTV standards, known as 1080i. Contrary to myth, 720p is not inferior to 1080i; 720p has fewer lines but also has the advantages of progressive scanning and a constant vertical resolution of 720 lines, making it better able to handle motion. Read more on HDTV resolution.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6029_7-6301006-1.html
those 1,280 horizontal pixels are gonna be a problem now arent they:rolleyes:

1024x768 is 4:3 and 1280x720 is 16:9 you put any wide screen res in a crt monitor it gets scaled to 4:3(and looks like crap).

Because a CRT uses electron beams to create images on a phosphor screen, it supports the resolution that matches its physical dot (pixel) size as well as several lesser resolutions. For example, a display with a physical grid of 1280 rows by 1024 columns can obviously support a maximum resolution of 1280x1024 pixels. It also supports lower resolutions such as 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480. As noted previously, an LCD monitor works well only at its native resolution.

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/monitor8.htm

those 1,280 horizontal pixels are gonna be a problem now arent they

I understand your point but like I said horizontal pixels on a monitor have no meaning. The monitor can display 2000x768 or almost any res as long as it has no more than 768 vertical lines(and the horizontal frequency doesn't go over 52Khz). 1280x720 is easy as can be on this monitor and any monitor with over 45khz horizontal capabilities.

2nd. Yeah 16:9 content on 4:3 means black bars on top and bottom. It's not distortioned and its terribly better than 4:3 on a 16:9 monitor in my opinion even if u adjust the height to remove the bars.

quote from wiki on display resolution : In analog connected picture displays such as CRT TV sets, the horizontal scanlines are not divided into pixels, but by the sampling theorem, the bandwidth of the luma and chroma signals implies a horizontal resolution.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution)

2nd. Yeah 16:9 content on 4:3 means black bars on top and bottom. It's not distortioned and its terribly better than 4:3 on a 16:9 monitor in my opinion even if u adjust the height to remove the bars.

no, it is distorted and stretched you have to adjust the height to put the bars in it,you have to go from half value height (50% on mine,normal for 1024x768 res)to zero for say 1280x720.

your continuing to say that"horizontal pixels on a monitor have no meaning"is just wrong.
A pixel on a monitor is a number of red, green, and blue phosphor dots. These dots are "excited" to varying degrees by the monitor's three electron guns, and the results mix additively to generate a specific color. By manipulating large numbers of pixels in precise ways, patterns emerge to make up an identifiable picture.

A monitor's resolution refers to the number of pixels in the whole image, because the number of dots per inch varies depending on the screen's dimensions. For example, a resolution of 1,280 by 1,024 means that 1,024 lines are drawn from the top to the bottom of the screen, and each of these lines is made up of 1,280 separate pixels--and in turn, each dot may have any number of combinations of red, green, and blue intensities.

A display normally can support resolutions that match the physical dot (pixel) size as well as several lesser resolutions. For example, a display with a physical grid of 1280 rows by 1024 columns can obviously support a maximum resolution of 1280x1024 pixels. It usually also supports lower resolutions such as 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.

the "it dosnt matter" and" yes it can" argument gets old.

http://bugclub.org/beginners/history/MonitorsHistory.html

I don't want to get into a heated discussion u know, but u have to know the difference between aperture grill techology and shadow mask technology.

Read a bit before shooting out stuf flike that.
Aperture grill displays have no fixed pixels. It consists of vertical phosphor bands and has no direct pixels.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/CRT_mask_types_en-de.svg/300px-CRT_mask_types_en-de.svg.png

I know what u are trying to say... and like i said.. we are talking about aperture grills not shadow mask, LCD or plasma or any other tech. Your sources all cited normal monitors. Yes, in shadow mask techs and slot mask, you can't display more than the number of pixels.

Like i said i don't want a battle of words and the like. I was not talking about ALL monitors but specifially aperture grills displays that have no fixed pixels.

of course it is shadow mask(not aperture grill )-there is no -tron suffix.(Full flat Invar shadow mask)monovision uses shadow mask.
Additionally, aperture grille displays tend to be vertically flat and are often horizontally flat as well, while shadow mask displays usually have a spherical curvature.

The first patented aperture grille televisions were manufactured by Sony in the late 1960s under the Trinitron brand name, which the company carried over to its line of CRT computer monitors. Subsequent designs, either licensed from Sony or manufactured after the patent's expiration, tend to use the -tron suffix, such as Mitsubishi's DiamondTron and ViewSonic's SonicTron.

Cromaclear is an improvement of the aperture grille technology, pioneered by the NEC Corporation; one of its advantage is the lack of the damping wires.
here is a review of one of their monitors(note Full flat Invar shadow mask)I have seen pallets of these going to ewaste and all were shadow mask.
http://www.laaudiofile.com/dm5952sf.html

So, based on that review, the monovision monitor you have is capable of displaying 720p and therefore does not have a fixed beam sweep rate. It does not have a native resolution at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel
(Resolution of computer monitors
Computers can use pixels to display an image, often an abstract image that represents a GUI. The resolution of this image is called the display resolution and is determined by the video card of the computer. LCD monitors also use pixels to display an image, and have a native resolution. Each pixel is made up of triads, with the number of these triads determining the native resolution. On some CRT monitors, the beam sweep rate may be fixed, resulting in a fixed native resolution. Most CRT monitors do not have a fixed beam sweep rate, meaning they do not have a native resolution at all - instead they have a set of resolutions that are equally well supported. To produce the sharpest images possible on an LCD, the user must ensure the display resolution of the computer matches the native resolution of the monitor.)

it has 786432 groups of sub pixels

it only has no resolution if you ignore
The XGA resolution (1024x768) limits the finest details of high-definition images