kitkat99
06-08-09, 12:34 AM
My legacy store is getting the dlp 82837, the internet for misu shows a 82737 and it say' not diamond, looks like diamond though. Any thoughts on the new 82 " though.
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View Full Version : New Mitsu 82" dlp, Diamond series? kitkat99 06-08-09, 12:34 AM My legacy store is getting the dlp 82837, the internet for misu shows a 82737 and it say' not diamond, looks like diamond though. Any thoughts on the new 82 " though. georule 06-08-09, 01:52 AM It is the top of the line for the bulb models, but they appear to not be applying the "Diamond" name to the 837s. It does have the iris (aka "Dark Detailer"), an extra hdmi, a usb port, and a blue accent light compared to the 737s Speculation is they will be moving the "Diamond" brand to the LaserVues. ordo 06-08-09, 05:06 PM Are the 837's for sale in the 82's? If so, where? I just looked at the Mitsu website and only the 737's are for sale... Also, I would be interested if anyone has or has seen the 82 in and model? If so, could you tell me your impressions of the brightness of theswe sets as they use the same bulb as the 73 inchers. I am concerned because I saw mitse's old 82 inchers about six years ago and they were very very dark.... kitkat99 06-09-09, 12:49 AM my legacy store said they are getting it in on saturday and it is the 82837 DIAMOND, they showed me there computer, it says DIAMOND.????? georule 06-09-09, 12:55 AM The 837s showed up on Mitsu's website today, and they don't say "Diamond" anywhere. ordo 06-09-09, 03:39 PM my legacy store said they are getting it in on saturday and it is the 82837 DIAMOND, they showed me there computer, it says DIAMOND.????? Just saw the Mitsu website. The 82837 is NOT listed. The other 837 models are listed and NONE of them is reported to be the Diamond model. This is reserved this year for the Laservue. ordo 07-20-09, 04:07 PM The 837s showed up on Mitsu's website today, and they don't say "Diamond" anywhere. As of last saturday the 82837's were still not on the official Mitsu's website. (usa site) Still they seem to be not only on sale at stores but some members have actually purchased them. These members seem to post to other sites on this forum. Would like to see their opinions here so as to compare with other 82inch owners... George Omoregie 07-20-09, 10:30 PM As of last saturday the 82837's were still not on the official Mitsu's website. (usa site) Still they seem to be not only on sale at stores but some members have actually purchased them. These members seem to post to other sites on this forum. Would like to see their opinions here so as to compare with other 82inch owners... hi: Mine came in last thursday... it is heavy, and nice. gto ordo 08-06-09, 04:44 PM My legacy store is getting the dlp 82837, the internet for misu shows a 82737 and it say' not diamond, looks like diamond though. Any thoughts on the new 82 " though. Have always thought that the 82 inchers have a difficult time with "whites," brightness and even resolution. Others seem to feel otherwise. However, was in my local tv store and as luck would have it the Mitsubishi Rep. was on the phone. Here is what I was told by him. 1. He confirmed that all of the 2009 Mitsu's have the same TI chip. He would NOT confirm that the 82 inchers had this same chip. He claimed that they have never told him what chip was in these two 82 inchers. He seemed disinterested what I asked to find out. Doers anyone know for sure? 2. He confirmed that all of the 2009 Mitsu's have exactly the same viewing angle EXCEPT the 82 inchers. He said they made a decision for whatever reason that these sets needed a broader viewing angle. They changed the screen to accomodate this. He was not specific about how and I didn't get the feeling that he was that technically oriented. 3. He would not confirm or deny that the above mentioned changes could or would change the picture either as to brightness or contrast or anything else. All he would confirm was that the screen was somehow different allowing for a wider viewing angle. Any thoughts? Darin 08-06-09, 04:55 PM 1. He confirmed that all of the 2009 Mitsu's have the same TI chip. He would NOT confirm that the 82 inchers had this same chip. Doesn't the first part answer the second part? There's no reason for them to NOT use the same chip. I still don't know where these rumors that it does came from. He confirmed that all of the 2009 Mitsu's have exactly the same viewing angle EXCEPT the 82 inchers. He said they made a decision for whatever reason that these sets needed a broader viewing angle. They changed the screen to accomodate this. He was not specific about how and I didn't get the feeling that he was that technically oriented. 3. He would not confirm or deny that the above mentioned changes could or would change the picture either as to brightness or contrast or anything else. All he would confirm was that the screen was somehow different allowing for a wider viewing angle. Any thoughts? They could certainly use a lower gain screen, which would give it a wider viewing angle at the expense of brightness. Perhaps they felt that people wouldn't necessarily be sitting farther away than they would from smaller screen, and a wider viewing angle is necessary to maintain consistent image brightness over the greater range of viewing angles due to the larger area. Wider viewing angle is always a good thing, but between that and the larger surface area, I would think a brighter bulb would have been warranted. ordo 08-07-09, 04:37 PM Doesn't the first part answer the second part? There's no reason for them to NOT use the same chip. I still don't know where these rumors that it does came from. They could certainly use a lower gain screen, which would give it a wider viewing angle at the expense of brightness. Perhaps they felt that people wouldn't necessarily be sitting farther away than they would from smaller screen, and a wider viewing angle is necessary to maintain consistent image brightness over the greater range of viewing angles due to the larger area. Wider viewing angle is always a good thing, but between that and the larger surface area, I would think a brighter bulb would have been warranted. Any thoughts about the lack of knowledge about the TI chip within the 82 inchers? I don't recall if the Darkchip4 in all the other 2009 Mitsu's was revealed by forum members or by someone opening up these sets or my Mitsu iteslf. However, when I told the rep that all other 2009's had the dc4 inside he did not deny it. He claimed that they have not told him even as late as Aug. 5th what chip are in the 82 inchers. Does anyone know if Mitsu keeps this info to themselves until some forum member or other insider breaks the news? Any thoughts on why they would or would not want this info out there? You don't suppose they put an older chip inside? Darin 08-08-09, 10:48 AM As far as how they communicated it: it was mentioned in most of the write-ups at various press sites when the 2008 models were released, so I would assume it was in some press release that Mits put out last year. Once they switched to that version, it would not make sense to revert back to the older version for an individual model. It's much easier for them to keep everything standardized to the extent possible. They often market that kind of thing at trade shows, but not so much to consumers. Sounds like it's a detail that rep just doesn't know much about. But I would be extremely surprised if it was anything different. cpto 09-04-09, 09:00 PM I have a question about the 82" brightness uniformity. I saw one today at Best Buy and the picture looked very good. The set was on a stand about 28" high. When I sat down to view the picture both a friend and I saw a noticeable drop-off in brightness at the top of the screen. It was dimmest at the top gradually lightening until about 1/3 way down, where the brightness remained constant. The screen didn't go to black or anything drastic, however, the effect was very obvious on a constant-brighness background. I have an old CRT RP and I've never noticed any brightness fall-off whether standing or sitting. Is this standard for the 82" Mits or did Best Buy have a bad unit? If the falloff when sitting it a given for this set then it would never work out for me. Thanks. Darin 09-04-09, 09:56 PM That is pretty standard in rear projection in general. My previous RP CRT is worse in that respect than my current 73" Mits. But if that was on a 28" stand, and you were sitting in a standard height chair, I would expect the effect to be exaggerated. You typically want your eyes level with the middle of the screen. In that situation, they must have been level with the bottom of the screen. If you have to have the screen that high, it's recommended to tilt the screen down a bit. But we play games in front of ours standing up, and the image is very usable. wuzzzer 09-05-09, 01:17 AM http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1142582 GoCaboNow 09-24-09, 06:39 PM I was at the local Fry's today and they have two of these "set up". One was in a darkened viewing room with a bluray feed but something was messed up and it did not look good at all. The other unit was out in the middle of the floor with the overhead light glaring on to it. Looked bad as well. These were posted in the store as $4000-5000 tv's. Do they try to make them look bad? |