I have a 50g15 coming in tommorow,

ill post pics asap

I have a 50g15 coming in tommorow, ill post pics asapWow, you may be the first one on the forum to get a G15. Where did you buy it from, Panasonic direct? I'm considering getting a 46" G15 in a few months. Let us know if your 50 incher has the "one-sheet-of-glass" design like the 50V10 if you would :)

Edit - looks like PowerStrokeHD below beat ya to it :o

Good deal!

I just checked the EPP pricing and surprisingly, the G15 is only $80 more than the G10.

Don't tell me your dad or uncle works for Panasonic. I need more relatives. :D

Don't tell me your dad or uncle works for Panasonic. I need more relatives. :D

Actually, my mother-in-law works for a company that has an EPP program. :p The prices are good but you can usually find deals just as good online. The problem with EPP is you still have to pay tax (shipping is free on Panny displays though).

Wow, you may be the first one on the forum to get a G15. Where did you buy it from, Panasonic direct? I'm considering getting a 46" G15 in a few months. Let us know if your 50 incher has the "one-sheet-of-glass" design like the 50V10 if you would :)


My 42G15 was delivered this afternoon. I ordered it Tuesday evening through Panasonic Direct EPP. Now I just have to wait for my new wall mount to come since Panasonic changed the dimensions of the mounting holes. I guess thats what I get for using a dedicated mount rather then a universal... :rolleyes:

Good deal!

I just checked the EPP pricing and surprisingly, the G15 is only $80 more than the G10.

Yeah..the 50 inch G15 is $80 more than a 54 inch G10.

Yeah..the 50 inch G15 is $80 more than a 54 inch G10.

Sorry, no. The 54G10 is $240 more than the 50G15. The 50G15 is $80 more than the 50G10.

Cleveland Plasma now shows the G15 in stock and available ! I'm surprised to see this because Panasonic had said that the G15 was going to be reserved for regional retail sales, unlike the G10 that is available nation-wide.

Now the only question i have is this: Does the 42", 46", and 50" G15s all have the one-sheet-of-glass design like the V10? Every indication is that it does, but can owners please verify this?

Cleveland Plasma now shows the G15 in stock and available ! I'm surprised to see this because Panasonic had said that the G15 was going to be reserved for regional retail sales, unlike the G10 that is available nation-wide.

Now the only question i have is this: Does the 42", 46", and 50" G15s all have the one-sheet-of-glass design like the V10? Every indication is that it does, but can owners please verify this?


The 42G15 does not have a single sheet of glass design. It has a bezel like the G10...

The bezel is thinner than the G10 though isn't it? The silver in it puts me off though, there's nothing tackier looking than a black bezel with silver trim. :(

The 42G15 does not have a single sheet of glass design. It has a bezel like the G10...That's what i was afraid of. I wonder if maybe the 46" and 50" versions will also have a G10 bezel as well. Does your 42G15 at least have the thinner 2.2" thick upper rear cabinet like the V10 (see pic below) or is it consistently 4" thick all the way to the top like on the G10 and S1?

Early on, Panasonic's Ideas For Life website specifically stated that the new G15 series will have a Slim 2" panel with premium "one sheet of glass design". Then CNet and the HD Guru both said the G15 would have the thinner 2" thick panel so all that, along with Panasonic using the picture of the V10 on the G15 spec sheet and web page made me think that it would indeed have the "one-sheet-of-glass design" like the V10.

And ever since CES, Panasonic has been stating that the G15 has a "slim design" and "slim style" and all the pictures they show of the G15 are the exact same as the V10 picture, but the height x width dimensions for the 50G15 are exactly the same as on the 50G10. The 50V10 on the other hand is a little taller and about an inch wider. Since the specs for the G15 don't show the 3.3" and 2.2" thickness spec for the 50G15 like they do on the 50V10 then i'm starting to think that by "Slim Design" and "Slim Style", Panasonic is actually talking about how the plastic bezels are thinner (like on the S1 and G10) than last year's models and doesn't actually mean it has the 2" thick upper rear cabinet with One-Sheet-of-Glass like the V10 does. I'm starting to picture it as a G10 but without the silver strip along the bottom. I really really like the infinity glass front facia of the V10 and PZ850U models but i'm not a fan of the cheap look of the shiny plastic G10 and S1 bezels.

>>> Link to Comparison Chart of 50G10, 50V10, and 50G15 <<< (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelComparisonResults?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&catGroupId=103502&surfCategory=All%20VIERA%26%23174%3B%20Flat-Panel%20HDTVs&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702&items=330261|352746|349745|)

Does the upper rear cabinet on your 42G15 look like this picture of the thinner 2" thick area on the upper rear cabinet of the V10/V1 on the right?:

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090203/pana2_11.jpg

Are there any big differences between the G15 and G10 or is it just cosmetic?

I just received my 50g15 yesterday. The bezel is almost the same thing as the g10 but the silver strip in the bottom is a little bit smaller. It is also a litlle bit slimer. Anyway i paid the same price as the g10. I Bought it a futureshop in montreal. Coming from a 50s1 i can tell right out from the box that there is a actual difference, less grain and noise!

Anyway im actually doing the breakin and will post pics as soon that i find my camera.

**no single sheet of glass design, even in the 50s :( *****

anyway the picture is awesome, who care !

I just received my 50g15 yesterday. The bezel is almost the same thing as the g10 but the silver strip in the bottom is a little bit smaller. It is also a litlle bit slimer. Anyway i paid the same price as the g10. I Bought it a futureshop in montreal. Coming from a 50s1 i can tell right out from the box that there is a actual difference, less grain and noise!

Anyway im actually doing the breakin and will post pics as soon that i find my camera.

**no single sheet of glass design, even in the 50s :( *****

anyway the picture is awesome, who care !


nice - waiting for those pics :)

Are there any big differences between the G15 and G10 or is it just cosmetic?From what i can tell from a few reviews and the downloadable PDF spec sheets, the difference appears to be that the upper rear portion of the back panel is thinner like the way they do it on the V10, and it has a smaller silver accent strip along the bottom of the bezel. The spec sheets for the G10 and G15 have a good picture of the front of the TVs and if they're using the actual correct pictures, then it looks like both TVs have the exact same plastic front bezel, with the only visible difference being the G10 has a long silver strip along the full width of the bottom, while the G15 has a much shorter silver strip about the width of the stand. Otherwise they look absolutely identical from the front. This is different from their various web pages since CES where they've been using the V10 picture when talking about the G15. This is really a let down; i was really hoping that the G15 had that nice one-sheet-of-glass design like the V10 and now my hopes are dashed :(

The G15 sheet specifically says it has a 2" Thin Design - Provides a contemporary, low-profile design and in in the list of features it also lists a 2" Thin Design (*At thinnest part) and the thickness is stated as 3.9" [2.4": exclusive of protruding portion]. So i'm gathering that the G15's front bezel is borrowed from the G10, and the upper portion of the rear panel is thinner than the bottom part similar to how the V10's rear panel is. CNet said the G15's picture quality and features are identical to the G10.

So, I guess than the internals are the same. It doesn't seem to me any benefit to buy the G15 unless someone doesn't like the looks of the G10.

I am looking at the 42" G10/G15 or the S1. Is their any benefit to go to the G10/G15 over the S1 in the 42" screen size?

So, I guess than the internals are the same. It doesn't seem to me any benefit to buy the G15 unless someone doesn't like the looks of the G10. That about sums it up. I don't think the slightly thinner upper rear panel and shorter silver strip on the front are worth paying another $100 (MSRP). Now if it had the nice one-sheet-of-glass design then i would pay another $300 over the G10 :)

I am looking at the 42" G10/G15 or the S1. Is their any benefit to go to the G10/G15 over the S1 in the 42" screen size?Some of the extra features and abilities of the G10 may be worth the higher price regardless of screen size:

>>> G10 vs S1 Post <<< (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16292910&highlight=play+avchd+mpeg2+video+sd+card+slot#post16292910)

The G15 Owners Manual has just become available for download:

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP42G15.PDF

If the area that fans are placed is thinner, I'd guess they'd have to use smaller fans, and logically there'd be less fan noise? I'm very sensitive to things like this. Got rid of 2 Pioneers for buzzing.

Doesn't the G15 have DLNA and the ability to play multiple video formats from SD a la the samsung 6/8 series?

Well, this certainly is curious. Comparing the manuals of both the G10 and the G15 series, the specifications show that the sets are nearly identical in size -- not even a half of an inch difference in depth and both series have identical weights (42", 46" and 50"). The photos of the TV's on the cover of the manual look identical, as well.

If the cosmetic differences are subtle, and the innards are the same, one wonders what Panasonic goofball gave the OK to confuse the market with a redundant model. Market research must show that flooding the market with models must be good for something.

I'm hoping that the folks who write the specs in the manuals are just as confused as we are -- I'd like to have a 46" model that is LESS than 30" on its stand so that it'll fit in my cabinet. And if 96hz playback was unintentionally left out of the manual for the G15, that'll be just fine by me.

G15 owners -- photos and precise measurements of your sets are much appreciated. And a virtual high five for the first person to find a substantial difference between the G10 and G15.

Cheers.

People I know ordered the 50" G15 (I was there at the store)

Sale rep from Panasonic was there on site at the mega store.

He said the different was the G15 had the Plus anti glare, which was one level better.

I was also just a little thinner, not much though.

Price difference was $40 due to a discount given for not being in stock yet.

TV wont be delivered till June 30th

Parents ordered the 50" G15

Sale rep from Panasonic was there on site at the mega store.

He said the different was the G15 had the Plus anti glare, which was one level better.

I was also just a little thinner, not much though.

Price difference was $40 due to a discount given for not being in stock yet.

TV wont be delivered till June 30th

Is that the same antiglare on the Z1? If so, that alone would be worth the price difference if you do a lot of daytime viewing.

nice - waiting for those pics :)

OK, I dropped the bomb on a 50G15. (Merely "pulling the trigger" doesn't seem like a LARGE ENOUGH cliche for buying one of these babies!)

I went to 4 stores on Sunday, walked in and announced that I wanted to see only TH50PZ85Us (which I did see in all the stores). Eventually I came back to store #2 and walked out with the TCP50G15.

Here's some photographs of dimensions and stuff. These pics were taken fairly quickly to get y'all an idea of some of the shapes involved. After all . . . I was in a hurry to watch some TV !

Mainly these are pictures of dimensions of the case, because it seems like people are looking for those. Overall, the case DOES look like the V on the right-hand-side of the photo in Post #12 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16647518#post16647518) above, with a bump-out about 1/3 of the way down.

Pics 1 & 2 are the oval stand.

Pic 3 is the depth at the very top of the TV.

Pic 4 is the depth of that bumpout.

Pic 5 is also a pic of the bumpout that I included because it shows a little better how the curve of the bumpout looks. Don't go by the dimension you (think you) see on the tape measure, I was shooting from pretty close and the parallax is bad.

Pic 6 (next post) is the dimension from the back of the chassis (that'd be where it is already bumped out) and the back of the oval stand.

Pic 7 is what I saw on the screen right after I plugged in an ethernet cable. Well, actually, I think it asked permission to update first.

Pic 8 is a quick sample of the VieraCast. You know it's silly, and I have soooo many places available to get a weather forecast, but I think that it's just cool that I could enter in my ZIP code into my TV, and it would figure out the name of the little city I live in and give me a 1.5 day forecast, HaHa!

All these pics are JPGs and are compressed pretty heavily. I've put the dimensions in the title of the pics, though, so you don't need super vision to see the tape measure. If anybody needs 'em, I can zip up the full size pics and put them on a fileshare site.



First impressions:

The picture is, of course, beautiful.

When I move around to a position where something bright is reflected in the shiny black bezel the reflection is still visible on the screen but it is much attenuated and has much less detail to draw the eye. I'm sorry, but I don't know how the Z1 looks to compare it with.

The piece of silver trim is centered at the bottom of the front of the TV, on the curve, and is only about half the width of the TV. [ subjective ] I didn't find it to be objectionable at all. [ /subjective ]

In a silent room, late at night, after everyone but me was asleep, I could just barely hear the fans if I brought my ear to within about 9" of the screen. Further away than that, I could hear nothing. (BTW, I have really LOW quality hearing but really HIGH quality hearing aids and with them I can hear "20/20". I had my hearing aids dialed up all the way when listening for the fans.)

Something that bothered me about the TH50PZ85U was radiant heat from the screen, and I guess heat dissipation overall. Every time I'd examine one in a store, I'd hold my hand in front of the screen, palm out about 2 or 3 inches from the screen. I didn't like how much heat I felt. On the G15 when I hold my hand the same distance, I can barely feel any heat. Maybe that ties in with the lack of fan noise, too..

SD Card has ability for JPEGs and also MPEGs.

Zero pixel defects that I could see when running the 120 break-in images (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16013999#post16013999).

And a virtual high five for the first person to find a substantial difference between the G10 and G15.

I just did a side-by-side of the user's guides. The difference? 50G15 is 0.4 inches shallower than the 50G10 at it's thickest point. (3.4" vs 3.8"). And the user's guides list a 54G10 but no 54" in the G15 series. If you look at the line art drawings in the user's guides, they do have a different depiction of the G15 versus the G10, but you might practically have to have seen one to notice the difference.

Joe

Some more pics

Can you post a pic of the complete back?
thanks

Can you post a pic of the complete back?

Sure. You mean a straight-on view of the back? I'll do that tonight and I'll also take some isometric pics and some pics of the connectors.

But it DOES look A WHOLE LOT like the V on the right-hand-side of the photo in Post #12 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16647518#post16647518) above.

Doesn't the G15 have DLNA and the ability to play multiple video formats from SD a la the samsung 6/8 series?

I don't know about DLNA or about samsung, but here's scoop on G15 SD card formats from the User's Guide.

Photo: Still images recorded with digital still cameras compatible with JPEG files of DCF* and EXIF** standards
Data format-Baseline JPEG (Sub-sampling: 4:4:4, 4:2:2 or 4:2:0)
Max. number of files - 9,999 Image resolution - 160 x 120 to 10,000,000
Movie: SD-Video Standard Ver. 1.2 [MPEG-2 (PS format)] and AVCHD Standard compatible files with an audio format that is
either MPEG-1/Layer-2 format or Dolby Digital format
(A modified data with a PC may not be displayed correctly.)
* DCF (Design rule for camera file system): A Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industries Association’s standard
** EXIF (Exchangeable Image File Format)
Note
Format the card with the recording equipment.
The picture may not appear correctly on this TV depending on the recording equipment used.
Display may take some time when there are many files and folders.
This function cannot display Motion JPEG and still image not DCF formatted (i.e. TIFF, BMP).
Data modified with a PC may not be displayed.
Images imported from a PC must be compatible with EXIF 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2.
Partly degraded files might be displayed at a reduced resolution.
All “.JPG” extension datas in the card will be read in Photo View Mode.
The folder and file names may be different depending on the digital camera used.
Do not use two-byte characters or other special codes.
The card may become unusable with this TV if file or folder names are changed.
For the suitable SD Memory Cards, please confirm the latest information on the following website.
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs (This site is in English only)

Congrats on the G15. I have one that's supposed to arrive next Tuesday.

According to everything I've read, the G15 and G10 are the same except for cosmetic differences. If you go to the Panasonic web site and do a side by side comparison of features, they're basically the same. That doesn't necessarily mean they're the same though. My hunch is they're probably not identical on the inside since the G15 has to fit in a slimmer case. It may be that they just had to rearrange a few things as opposed to using smaller electronics and/or fans. The question is if the difference will result in anything visible. The manuals are basically the same, but since the features are identical, that would be expected.

I really wonder why Panasonic would have a G15 model if it's the same as the G10. Was there demand for a slimmer version of the G10?

Someone would need to do a side by side comparison from the same video source with the same picture settings to see if there is any difference.

Congrats on the G15. I have one that's supposed to arrive next Tuesday.

According to everything I've read, the G15 and G10 are the same except for cosmetic differences. If you go to the Panasonic web site and do a side by side comparison of features, they're basically the same. That doesn't necessarily mean they're the same though. My hunch is they're probably not identical on the inside since the G15 has to fit in a slimmer case. It may be that they just had to rearrange a few things as opposed to using smaller electronics and/or fans. The question is if the difference will result in anything visible. The manuals are basically the same, but since the features are identical, that would be expected.

I really wonder why Panasonic would have a G15 model if it's the same as the G10. Was there demand for a slimmer version of the G10?

Someone would need to do a side by side comparison from the same video source with the same picture settings to see if there is any difference.I woudn't expect the G15's picture quality to be any different than the G10. There is nothing in the specs or the marketing info or anywhere else to indicate that the G15 will look any different than the G10.

CNet's G15 article says: In terms of picture quality and features, the TC-PG15 series is identical to the TC-PG10 series. It will be available in June.

I bought the Samsung PN50-A760 from Costco a month ago but am considering switching to the TC-P50G15.

I love the Samsung's PQ - the color reproduction is awesome. I have a lot of ambient light in my living room, and the anti-reflective coating tries hard to reduce glare - but I'm not completely convinced. I do notice a buzz when I play HD channels that render in 4:3 format. The blacks seem pretty deep - no complaints there.

I have two compelling incentives to switch to the G15:
1. Better anti-reflective coating/filter.
2. I save $250!

So, there. Any suggestions/recommendations/pointers?

I bought the Samsung PN50-A760 from Costco a month ago but am considering switching to the TC-P50G15.

I love the Samsung's PQ - the color reproduction is awesome. I have a lot of ambient light in my living room, and the anti-reflective coating tries hard to reduce glare - but I'm not completely convinced. I do notice a buzz when I play HD channels that render in 4:3 format. The blacks seem pretty deep - no complaints there.

I have two compelling incentives to switch to the G15:
1. Better anti-reflective coating/filter.
2. I save $250!

So, there. Any suggestions/recommendations/pointers?

I narrowed down my choices to the panasonic G10 amd the Samsung B650. I went to best buy and took a good close look. The Samsung was more vibrant and the panasonic looked more realistic but also looked kind of dull. I chose the more realistic picture over the pixar'ish looking picture. Just a personal preference. I also talked to several sales people at different internet sites and they all said the Panasonics have fewer returns due to defects. I was set on buying on line to save $ so not having to worry as much about defects was a bigger deal than if I bought from Sears or Best Buy. If you buy from Costco, returns are easy, so defects shouldn't be a big issue.

I just did a side-by-side of the user's guides. The difference? 50G15 is 0.4 inches shallower than the 50G10 at it's thickest point. (3.4" vs 3.8"). And the user's guides list a 54G10 but no 54" in the G15 series. If you look at the line art drawings in the user's guides, they do have a different depiction of the G15 versus the G10, but you might practically have to have seen one to notice the difference.

Joe

Every spec sheet I have ever read lists the G10 at 4 1/8 inch deep. Yet you report the G10 as being 3.8 inches at its thickest point. Which is it? I had a G10 in my home recently (arrived damaged so I sent it back) and I didn't bother to get out the tape measure.

Every spec sheet I have ever read lists the G10 at 4 1/8 inch deep. Yet you report the G10 as being 3.8 inches at its thickest point. Which is it? Actually both specs are correct. I measured the thickness of my new 46G10 (i checked to see how much thinner it is than my 42PZ700U on an arm mount) and the vast majority of the cabinet is 3.8" deep, but that silver lip that scoops outward below the front of the screen increases the depth right at that point so that's apparently where the 4.3" spec comes into play. If you look at the G10 owners manual the line drawing shows both measurements.

...If you look at the G10 owners manual the line drawing shows both measurements.

Agreed.

Can you post a pic of the complete back?
thanks


Here you go.

If the cosmetic differences are subtle, and the innards are the same, one wonders what Panasonic goofball gave the OK to confuse the market with a redundant model. Market research must show that flooding the market with models must be good for something.

Probably the same "goofball" that decided we don't need a 42" or 46" V10...

Probably the same "goofball" that decided we don't need a 42" or 46" V10...

+1


...instead of confusing people with G10 versus G15, they should have made only one of these (let's say G10), and then they should have started V10 line at 42". My guess is they would have made more money that way.

For example, I would have paid extra for a 42" V10 for the no-pull-down / no-judder / no-flicker cinema mode alone.

Note, that I am talking purely marketing. Whether I could see 2:3 pull down on such TV is another topic.

IIRC, the G10 and G15 weigh the same; I don't know why that is.:confused:

If the area that fans are placed is thinner, I'd guess they'd have to use smaller fans, and logically there'd be less fan noise? I'm very sensitive to things like this. Got rid of 2 Pioneers for buzzing.
Which Pioneer(s)?

Another nice thing about the G15 is it uses a lot less electricity supposedly...

Some of these new panels like the Samsung 8xx series feel like BBQ grills on high from 10 inches.

Anyone want to post their G15 picture settings? I keep going back and forth on them and am investigating the patterns others have chosen. I love my G15 I just wish I could tell I'm getting the best picture possible without a pro calibration.

been watching the new 50G15 for a few few days now. got it hard wired to my router, haven't been able to get the wireless working, but since I started playing with VieraCast, figured out how to watch youtube. UI can't however, get the weather info to display MY city. I am able if I drill into it, and choose the my city (which is a favorite), but everytime I go back to the full scrreen that shows Bloomberg, amazon, youtube, picasso, etc, I get New York.

any ideas?

Anyone want to post their G15 picture settings? I keep going back and forth on them and am investigating the patterns others have chosen. I love my G15 I just wish I could tell I'm getting the best picture possible without a pro calibration.Other people's settings won't necessarily look good to you because everybody has a different environment, different sources, different signal quality, different eyesight, different preferences, etc.

Since the G15 is internally identical to the G10, just run a search in the G10 thread for other people's settings. So far about 12 people have posted their settings there including myself the last time i searched that thread. I've tried several people's settings and while some come close, none of em look as good as the setting i came up with on my own.

+1


...instead of confusing people with G10 versus G15, they should have made only one of these (let's say G10), and then they should have started V10 line at 42". My guess is they would have made more money that way.

For example, I would have paid extra for a 42" V10 for the no-pull-down / no-judder / no-flicker cinema mode alone.

Note, that I am talking purely marketing. Whether I could see 2:3 pull down on such TV is another topic.

A very small amount of people would have wanted a 42v10 at the price they would have put it at. They know more about what people want and what is going to make money than forum members.

In terms of the channels you get on Viera cast; are they the same for both the G10 and G15? Or do you get more Viera cast channels on the G15? I was told by a salesman (before the release of the G15) that the G15 was going to have more of them than the G10.

In terms of the channels you get on Viera cast; are they the same for both the G10 and G15? Or do you get more Viera cast channels on the G15? I was told by a salesman (before the release of the G15) that the G15 was going to have more of them than the G10.Don't ever believe anything a salesman tells you. Viera Cast is Viera Cast.

A very small amount of people would have wanted a 42v10 at the price they would have put it at. They know more about what people want and what is going to make money than forum members.

Either that or it's pro-European bias. I would have been very very keen for a North American 42 or 46" V10 like Panasonic released in Europe. (UK review of the 42V10: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p42v10-tx-p50v10-20090602153.htm.) I'm still hoping (probably futilely) they release them here late in the season.

I thought seriously about the 42/46 G10 but the lack of 96Hz just kills it. As it stands, all the sub-50" sets in NA with watchable 24fps playback are LCDs. Ah well, maybe next year.

I gave up on my own and called in a pro. Chad B is coming today to turn this thing into the beast it should be. So for you G15 owners out there, I'll report back just how much a difference a pro can make. I'm pretty psyched that I can put down the remote now.

I thought I would report back to this thread Post Chad B. calibration. First off during his initial measurements he indicated there was some white crushing and the Reds were pushed too high and the blues to low. At least I believe this was what he told me. He said there was definitely room for some calibrating improvement. He spent about three hours calibrating my cable, xbox, blu-ray, and Wii component inputs. Once he was done we previewed a couple Blu-Rays and everything seemed to look great. Like the G10, one downside of the G15 is the inconsistent brightness pending on the sources and scenes. Overall he adjusted the brightness to a higher level in the service menu but his measurements left the setting at 50 in the menu upon upping the service brightness. I showed him a scene in the Dark Knight where Alfred's jacket collar edges wasn't distinguishable on his coat, as it all blended black together. We could turn up the brightness some more, but he said it would greatly reduce the contrast ratio, that I was better off making the compromise for the greater good of the picture. I agreed. This issue was more with the Blu-Ray mastering and the TV itself, and not the calibration. In spite of that, the picture quality was definitely improved. He calibrated the custom mode as he, like me, was not a fan of the THX. After he was done, I compared the THX mode (uncalibrated) with the Custom mode. Interestingly so, the Custom looked like a more polished THX. It was slightly brighter with more natural color as opposed the yellow tint. Custom mode is just more consistent and authentic in my opinion. What was most noticeable about the set is how much better standard definition analog and digital looked. Seriously the digital 480i looked really good and natural, whereas before the calibration it was unwatchable. In the evening time we were checking out Jeopardy in HD on our local CBS affiliate and WOW it was incredible. My brother came over a little skeptical but his jaw dropped when he saw a true HD source and what it looked like following a calibration. My wife and I watched LOST in Blu-Ray later in the night and it took some getting used to as it definitely looked different than before. The dark scenes in the caves and hatch before looked glossy and grainy in the backgrounds. Whereas now, the dark scenes look soft and smooth with no grain. The grainy area is now a shade of grey. The overall look is more like the original source and the look of a THX setting. I am sure after time the overall look will be what I will come to expect. I realize now I had the set way too bright and not very representative of the directors vision.

In conclusion, for anyone in Chad's service area, you should call him to tap into what you should be watching. I tried for weeks on my own to get it right and couldn't do it. He was extremely helpful and friendly during his visit and you can tell he has a passion for what he does. He answered my questions in a language that was easy to understand. He is a professional, and if you own a plasma that is what it takes to truly get it right.

Thanks Chad for coming on short notice.

Hello guys have you relised that G10 and G15 have poor moving processor?
Try titles at the end of the movie (cast, director, etc... i do not know how to call it).

Moves are not smooth it is kind of jumping....

Upon further review I put the Dark Knight Blu-Ray's digital copy in my MacBook and the same issue happens there as it does on the Plasma. Its not really a color flaw in the TV, its the Blu-Ray itself. I went back and checked out some reviews of the Blu-Ray and sure enough the black crushing was mentioned in almost all of them. I feel better now knowing it wasn't on my end.

[QUOTE=RandyWalters;16647518]That's what i was afraid of. I wonder if maybe the 46" and 50" versions will also have a G10 bezel as well. Does your 42G15 at least have the thinner 2.2" thick upper rear cabinet like the V10 (see pic below) or is it consistently 4" thick all the way to the top like on the G10 and S1?

Early on, Panasonic's Ideas For Life website specifically stated that the new G15 series will have a Slim 2" panel with premium "one sheet of glass design". Then CNet and the HD Guru both said the G15 would have the thinner 2" thick panel so all that, along with Panasonic using the picture of the V10 on the G15 spec sheet and web page made me think that it would indeed have the "one-sheet-of-glass design" like the V10.

And ever since CES, Panasonic has been stating that the G15 has a "slim design" and "slim style" and all the pictures they show of the G15 are the exact same as the V10 picture, but the height x width dimensions for the 50G15 are exactly the same as on the 50G10. The 50V10 on the other hand is a little taller and about an inch wider. Since the specs for the G15 don't show the 3.3" and 2.2" thickness spec for the 50G15 like they do on the 50V10 then i'm starting to think that by "Slim Design" and "Slim Style", Panasonic is actually talking about how the plastic bezels are thinner (like on the S1 and G10) than last year's models and doesn't actually mean it has the 2" thick upper rear cabinet with One-Sheet-of-Glass like the V10 does. I'm starting to picture it as a G10 but without the silver strip along the bottom. I really really like the infinity glass front facia of the V10 and PZ850U models but i'm not a fan of the cheap look of the shiny plastic G10 and S1 bezels.

>>> Link to Comparison Chart of 50G10, 50V10, and 50G15 <<<
Does the upper rear cabinet on your 42G15 look like this picture of the thinner 2" thick area on the upper rear cabinet of the V10/V1 on the right?:

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In the post #12, that link for the comparison of 50G10, 50V10, 50G15 , the G15 spec for the Panel is G12 Progressive HD Plasma Display Panel and not G12 Progressive 1080p HD NeoPDP (Plasma Display Panel). Is this a mistake?

In the post #12, that link for the comparison of 50G10, 50V10, 50G15 , the G15 spec for the Panel is G12 Progressive HD Plasma Display Panel and not G12 Progressive 1080p HD NeoPDP (Plasma Display Panel). Is this a mistake?It's just another typical mistake on Panasonic's website (they make a lot of em and they should be embarassed about it).

The S1, G10, G15, and V10 all share the exact same NeoPDP panel. They just left this little detail out of the G15 listing (which was added way after the G10 and V10 had become available).

The pic is a little fuzzy, but it finally arrive.(TC-P46G15) 46inch plasma
http://i29.tinypic.com/2j6ahcy.jpg

Well I tried a bit my computer on it & my SD card from my Canon SD780is. I can say it is not that great for static picture since you see the color shifting to prevent image retention. It does indeed do 1:1 pixel ratio in 1080P which is a good thing but kind of look weird in comparison to my 32inch LCD such as my Panasonic LZ800.

There's the 48hz(kind of like 120hz with interpolation trick) option when you are running movies in 24P & I can tell that you sure do feel the backlight flicker as hell when you're used to run 60hz which I guess most people will just leave it at 60hz. The movie does seem look smoother but there's isn't much improvement & I believe that the original content at 24hz is enough.

When you use it you can tell that the color gradation is a lot better & viewing Standard Definition is a charm with it. The scaling is great under 480i & PlayStation 2 games look great even as a 1080P panel that does 1:1 indeed. I noticed lag under 480i in normal mode & unlike the LZ800, in game mode I felt it does reduce the lag which I will do the lag test to confirm if it really does reduce the lag. Though I believe it should range around 45~30ms in normal mode with the Plasma G15 & in game mode it should be around 30~15ms. Don't forget to track me cause it will be a direct comparison to the TC-32LZ800 & the TC-P46G15 along with a CRT monitor in 480i & 1080P.

As for the contrast, under dark setting it does look a lot darker than an LCD screen & you don't lose detail at all which is a great panel for dark scene. The defaut setting of the contrast is at 50% which may not look as bright as an LCD screen, but you know... When you pump it closer to 100% it look about the same.

Well I'll post later, tomorrow or today when I'll use my 360 on it when I'll have the time. I can see that Plasma & LCD have advantage & disadvantage in the end that it really depend of what you like about in a High Definition panel.

Hello All I did some searches on the Web and some say that the G15 V and Z series of viera support DIVX. Will I be able to stream DIVX movies from the LAN or SD card?

Second question: someone above mentioned wireless. Does the G15 come with a wireless card built in or is this an add on?

I want the G15 bad but like the network features of the Sammy B650

Thank you.

Does anyone one who already has one of these 50 inch G15 give me a measurement from the front of the stand to the front( including that little jut out) of the TV. I have been told it is 6 inches. Can anyone confirm that?
I am placing this in an existing cabinet and do not want the curve of the stand to hang over the front ledge of my cabinet...thanks in advance for your help

Does anyone one who already has one of these 50 inch G15 give me a measurement from the front of the stand to the front( including that little jut out) of the TV. I have been told it is 6 inches. Can anyone confirm that?
I am placing this in an existing cabinet and do not want the curve of the stand to hang over the front ledge of my cabinet...thanks in advance for your help

I measured my G15 and it is actually 7-inches from the front bezel to the end of the stand at the center point.

I would also like to note that I have tried countless formats of video on my SD card with no luck of playing them on TV. Also as a Mac user its kind of annoying to have to use a program to kill the Fork files associated with the .jpg pictures. Otherwise it shows an unreadable duplicate.

Is that normal that the filter get odd rainbow. The coating doesn't look uniform.
click on the pic to view full size
http://i29.tinypic.com/20zuzv5.jpg (http://i29.tinypic.com/25808r6.jpg)

Here a front view of the panel turned off.
Click to see full size
http://i26.tinypic.com/fuupz8.jpg (http://i29.tinypic.com/714v14.jpg)

I haven't noticed it on mine, but I'm sure its nothing out of the ordinary if the set plays fine.

please post a picture of the side and back! I get mine at the end of August and need some eye candy!
Thanks

please post a picture of the side and back! I get mine at the end of August and need some eye candy!
Thanks

Jokester posted pics on page 1 post #25 and page 2 post #37.

please post a picture of the side and back! I get mine at the end of August and need some eye candy!
ThanksDude, read the thread :D Pics have already been posted ;)

I think he meant some good looking picture quality pics...not the ones posted earlier questioning the line thing.

I think he meant some good looking picture quality pics...not the ones posted earlier questioning the line thing.

WHAT?!? :eek: My pictures weren't good looking enough?!?!?
Totally kidding, I know what you meant. The PQ here is great, well beyond my photographical ability to record.

Now here's some images you don't see every day, Chauncy:

You can see the two vertical box beams in the middle that are bent to reduce the thickness of the overall TV at the top. The electronics below the bend are thicker than the electronics above the bend. In fact, above the bend, it's mainly fans.

hey guys
I bought a 42g15 today.....

I was told that it's got vieracast on it which will let me watch youtube and crap but I just looked at a specsheet and it says this is only for US?

is this true, is it not available in Canada?


Either way it's not a dealbreaker since I can just watch that stuff on my PS3 but I thought I'd check before I got buy an ethernet cable

Sale rep from Panasonic was there on site at the mega store.

He said the different was the G15 had the Plus anti glare, which was one level better.

Can anyone please confirm this, that the G15 has better anti-glare than the G10, or does anyone disagree?

Does your remote have the green viera cast button on it? If not, then you probably wouldn't have it. If so, push it, if anything the menu would come up for it.

The antiglare upgrade, I've heard this too...not sure of its truth. I notice glare mirror effect on mine in daytime because I have a window in the back of the room that causes problems.

I noticed that the Panasonic site lists the 50G15's weight with carton at 119 lbs, but the 50G10's at 90 lbs. I assume the site is in error on the G15?

I noticed that the Panasonic site lists the 50G15's weight with carton at 119 lbs, but the 50G10's at 90 lbs. I assume the site is in error on the G15?Panasonic's website always has some errors. According to the Specs in their respective Owners Manuals, the 50G15 weighs exactly the same as the 50G10 - 70.6 lbs without stand, 75 lbs with stand. This makes sense since they are virtually the same TV aside from the two cosmetic differences. Don't just trust their website - it's had various mistakes and errors every year. Even their press releases have had errors that had to be corrected with updated releases. Their CSRs and store representatives tend to be full of misinformation as well. It's astounding that such a great company has such stupid people that can't provide accurate product information. They really need to let the engineers proof-read all their documentation before releasing it to the public.

My favorite Panny CSR experience was when i Live Chatted with one asking what kind of scaler does the PX50U have, and his reply was that their Plasmas don't have a scaler :o And the reps that i talked to in a few stores were downright stupid about their TVs - they were obviously just marketing guys with no technical knowledge who couldn't remember their scripts and just made some stuff up. Morons.

Oh and i answered in the other thread, but aside from this one comment from that rep, there is no other official documention or specs or press notes and basically nothing to indicate that the G15 has a different AR filter than the G10. The AR filter on the G15 i saw was identical to that of the S1 and G10.

WHAT?!? :eek: My pictures weren't good looking enough?!?!?
Totally kidding, I know what you meant. The PQ here is great, well beyond my photographical ability to record.

Now here's some images you don't see every day, Chauncy:

You can see the two vertical box beams in the middle that are bent to reduce the thickness of the overall TV at the top. The electronics below the bend are thicker than the electronics above the bend. In fact, above the bend, it's mainly fans.


Thanks for the awesome pics.... you had the guts to remove the back panel..good job...

I picked up my G15 50" last week...haven't had the time to break it in yet... I have a satellite feed going to it..these days you can't trust anything and you just can't leave the set on unattended weather you running the SD card for breaking it in or the DVD.... they could freeze and create burn in problems...It was thundering outside and my satellite feed froze to 'acquiring satellite signal", good thing I was only gone for 10 minutes... :eek:

For the G15-50"

I got a question guys.... do any of you know why certain settings are not highlighted in the menu...?

In Advance Picture.. 3D Y/C filter ,Color Matrix,24p direct in ,the second H Size... Is there something I am forgetting?

Here is a pic of what I mean (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/canaris/IMG_1321Large.jpg)

Because some features only work with certain formats. Like analog stuff will have some settings that only apply to analog, digital to digital, 1080 settings, 720p settings, etc. etc. Some settings are corrective measures for various formats that the TV displays. For instance, overscan or HD Size 1/2 is only relevant for 1080.

Just thought I'd shots of my "set up" here...

http://www.vengefulsoda.com/plasma/

beep

After many months of geeking out, I finally bought a g15 50". Many thanks to everyone on this forum for helping me make the final decision.

I went with the G15 over the G10 only because I got it at U.S. Appliance for a better price than I could find a G10. I was a little leery of buying from them, but I rolled the dice and everything went just fine. Plugged it in last night and wow, I can't wait to get a Blue Ray in there. I can't seem to get HDMI to work from my Comcast box, but I am sure I'll figure it out when I get home tonight. I also got a Blue Ray sc-bt300 system which I know is a compromise, but with a 200 dollar rebate it was quite a deal and it gets the job done until I can finally afford my Vienna Acoustics dream speaker set up.

From everything I read the G15 and G10 are identical picture wise, so I guess I am best off to wander over to that forum for picture settings/suggestions. Perhaps this thread will get traction as my experience was that the G15's are much more prevalent then they were a few months ago.

Now that I finally have some gear I can't wait to have something to contribute to this forum as it has been a great help to me.

Well, I finally bit the bullet.

I pick up my 46" G15 on Thursday! This is actually going to be my first HDTV purchase. Actually...now that I think about it...my first TV purchase EVER!

It's funny because I've always happened to "inherit" (legally) TV sets from family members. Currently, I'm using a 32" RCA SDTV.

I've been researching HDTVs for what seems like months now and finally decided on the G15. Originally, I was looking at going with a Sony Bravia LCD (my oh my how things have changed!). Once I did a bit more research (and quit listening to the Sony/Sammy fanboys) I ended up concluding that this Panasonic Plasma will be my way to go.

I even went into Video Only with my Xbox360 to test it out and it exceeded my expectations. The input lag is not even noticeable to me (I brought in a fighting game as they tend to be the most crabby when it comes to precise and quick move commands).

I am sooooo stoked for this! This forum has helped me out so much! Special thanks to those who posted pics of input lag on various HDTV sets!

Now here's my question, is it ok to leave the TV running with a break in disc while I'm not there? I ask this because I'm supposed to go camping with my girlfriend and her family this weekend. Ideally, it would be great to break in the TV while camping since I won't be home anyway.

...I am a bit worried about the possibility of the disc/SD card freezing though. The last thing I'd want to come back home to is a brand new Plasma with burn in.

I would never leave my G15 unattended... Although the SD card is less likely to freeze.. then the BD...

I read all the posts on the G-10 about how to enter the service menu, but when I tried to do it on my new G-15 it wont work. When I hold down the -vol on the tv and hit Info button on the remote 3x all I get is the "hotel" mode. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a new way to enter the service mode? I did my 120 hours of break-in slides and I want to make some adjustments.
Thanks!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/111lika111/IMG_3060.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/111lika111/IMG_3061.jpg

Well it is a bridge. It work on the G15 with no problem. It is the Linksys WET610N. It accept G, B & N wave.

Well I wished the TV came build in wireless so I came up with this.

I had trouble to configure the device until I decide not to use the CD with it.
if never you get one, just plug the device directly on the computer via ethernet & use the setting in the browser, it is far easier & less confusing than using the CD.

As for those who use console gaming or Bluray device, it also work. I used my 360 on it & all the feature work along with the media sharing & access on XBOX live.

It may be around 90$ but it sure work on everything. :)

Well, I finally bit the bullet.

I pick up my 46" G15 on Thursday! This is actually going to be my first HDTV purchase. Actually...now that I think about it...my first TV purchase EVER!

It's funny because I've always happened to "inherit" (legally) TV sets from family members. Currently, I'm using a 32" RCA SDTV.

I've been researching HDTVs for what seems like months now and finally decided on the G15. Originally, I was looking at going with a Sony Bravia LCD (my oh my how things have changed!). Once I did a bit more research (and quit listening to the Sony/Sammy fanboys) I ended up concluding that this Panasonic Plasma will be my way to go.

I even went into Video Only with my Xbox360 to test it out and it exceeded my expectations. The input lag is not even noticeable to me (I brought in a fighting game as they tend to be the most crabby when it comes to precise and quick move commands).

I am sooooo stoked for this! This forum has helped me out so much! Special thanks to those who posted pics of input lag on various HDTV sets!

Now here's my question, is it ok to leave the TV running with a break in disc while I'm not there? I ask this because I'm supposed to go camping with my girlfriend and her family this weekend. Ideally, it would be great to break in the TV while camping since I won't be home anyway.

...I am a bit worried about the possibility of the disc/SD card freezing though. The last thing I'd want to come back home to is a brand new Plasma with burn in.

My advice is to not bother with burn in. There's no mention in the users manual about burn in. I think with newer panels that are more resistant to image retention, burn in isn't needed. Why shorten the usable life of your TV by 100 hours and pay a higher electric bill for nothing? Just avoid keeping static images on the screen for more than say 4 straight hours and you'll be fine.

My advice is to not bother with burn in. There's no mention in the users manual about burn in. I think with newer panels that are more resistant to image retention, burn in isn't needed. Why shorten the usable life of your TV by 100 hours and pay a higher electric bill for nothing? Just avoid keeping static images on the screen for more than say 4 straight hours and you'll be fine.

Well, I'm using my TV right now and everybody at Video Only said not to worry about breaking it in with a DVD or SD card. They just said to keep it on Standard Mode for the first hundred hours or so, and turn down the brightness and contrast.

Great information on this set from all of you. I was turned on to this set by Consumer Reports Sept 09 issue, they rated it as a best buy. They also stated it as a low electricity consumer b/c of the Neo Plasma display. I've read nothing but positive reviews on CNet, Amazon, here, etc. Friends are trying to steer me away from Plasma, to LCD of course because of the 'burn in' risk. I have a few questions, perhaps you guys can answer:

1) Is there a way to reverse the burn in? Do you see the results of burn in while the TV is on?

2) Do you have to 'break in' a Plasma TV? I noticed a mention of this in earlier posts.

3) Have any of you measured actual wattage pulled by the TV? Crutchfield measured 251W, which seems very low.

I'm so darn close to pulling the trigger on this.

Great information on this set from all of you. I was turned on to this set by Consumer Reports Sept 09 issue, they rated it as a best buy. They also stated it as a low electricity consumer b/c of the Neo Plasma display. I've read nothing but positive reviews on CNet, Amazon, here, etc. Friends are trying to steer me away from Plasma, to LCD of course because of the 'burn in' risk. I have a few questions, perhaps you guys can answer:

1) Is there a way to reverse the burn in? Do you see the results of burn in while the TV is on?

2) Do you have to 'break in' a Plasma TV? I noticed a mention of this in earlier posts.

3) Have any of you measured actual wattage pulled by the TV? Crutchfield measured 251W, which seems very low.

I'm so darn close to pulling the trigger on this.

You can't reverse burn in as burn in is permanent. A lot of people confuse image retention (which is temporary) with burn in though. For burn in, you pretty much have to abuse the Plasma to get it (from what I understand).

I think the "break in" process is debatable as I've heard you should do it from some folks and it doesn't matter from others. I got my G15 yesterday and I'm not breaking it in (to some people). I'm leaving it on standard mode and reducing the contrast and brightness for the first 100 hours or so.

As far as energy consumption, I know that a lot of Plasmas are energy star certified nowadays, but I don't know exact wattage.

I'm still new to the HDTV thing, so don't take this advice as absolute truth. Somebody with more experience should elaborate.

I read all the posts on the G-10 about how to enter the service menu, but when I tried to do it on my new G-15 it wont work. When I hold down the -vol on the tv and hit Info button on the remote 3x all I get is the "hotel" mode. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a new way to enter the service mode? I did my 120 hours of break-in slides and I want to make some adjustments.
Thanks!

I'm able to enter the SM menu on my g15 by holding down -vol on the tv and pressing INFO 3 times on the remote. Not sure what this hotel mode is.

I'm able to enter the SM menu on my g15 by holding down -vol on the tv and pressing INFO 3 times on the remote. Not sure what this hotel mode is.Hotel Mode is a hidden mode that's used when the TV is installed in a hotel. It puts the TV into a basic operation mode that takes away the ability of various options like adjusting the picture, changing inputs, etc so guests can't screw it up for the next guess.

Hello there Peoples,

I am JUST so confused. I consider myself a relatively intelligent person, I mean I SOMEHOW made it through 5 years of engineering school. I currently own a 42" Sony Plasma Monitor so it time to upgrade.

I am JUST so so lost as to what to buy. I look at the Panni G15 Series and then the V series and then finally the Pioneer KRP-500m. The Pioneer Kuro people say there is no equal. The Panni G15 series is around +/- $300 less then the Kuro.

I use the Sony for mostly computer file watching, surfing and IM, movies, and TV off my Fios last. I have heard that the Kuro has scaler that can not be beat and the blacks are suppose to be the best. I also heard ( since I have not seen the side by side) the black difference is not all that great.

I have gone through a LOT of Kuro pages and gone through a lot of Panni pages. I was curious what people on this thread think. I already know the Kuro people believe there is no substitute and its hard getting a fair comparison. I am going to buying something shortly (next week or 2) and IF i had my druthers and the money to back it the best I have seen is a Sony XBR 8. I would love to see the XBR 8 vs. Panni vs the Kuro side by side and I am not sure there is anywhere I can see that.

Help and thoughts are truly appreciated!

Ok, anyone with a G10 or G15 I have a question.

I just bought a new Panny P50G15.

was wondering if anyone has one of these, how the bass is on it. It seems like if something has any real bass at all, it cant handle it even set on the factory 0 settings if its turned up to 40+ vol
I get alot of rattling, vibration, and blown speaker sound.
Im getting just find sound with everything but bass things.

basically just wanted to know how loud yours has to be for the bass to make the speaker sound bad?
Dont know if its normal or if mine is bad.
thanks for any help

I just bought a new Panny P50G15... how the bass is on it. It seems like if something has any real bass at all,...Dont know if its normal or if mine is bad.
thanks for any help

Are you talking about using the internal speakers or using the TV to pass audio to some other device, eschewing the internal speakers?

If you're passing audio to something else, then this reply doesn't apply, and sorry I wasted your time when you could be watching TV instead. :D

If you're talking about using the internal speakers, read on. Those speakers are like 3 inches long by 1.5 inches wide. There's no way those little things are going to put out anything like a fulfilling bass. It seems like they'd be considered tweeters when compared to any other sound system (except maybe like the toy speakers on a laptop computer, Ha Ha Ha )

Someone on AVS has posted that they've never heard sound through their TV's speakers, because they use a separate amp/speaker system 100% of the time. Even though I use my speakers every once in a while, that person's position seems very reasonable to me.

Well, I'm using my TV right now and everybody at Video Only said not to worry about breaking it in with a DVD or SD card. They just said to keep it on Standard Mode for the first hundred hours or so, and turn down the brightness and contrast.

And they're right.

The 100+ hour DVD/SD card procedure you see in AVS Forum is not anti-BurnIn or anti-IR, but is to provide a consistent basis for each of us to use to apply the adjustments to the Service Menu colors that we're hoping that one of the pro Calibrators will enter here. [Sorry, but I can't find the Calibrator's posting/thread right now, and I have to leave for work. I'll do a better forumsearch when I get home and edit this post to give you a link to the Calibrator. Other people can point you to it in the mean-time. . .it's famous.]

Is it just me, or do the G15 speakers sound hollow?

Thanks for the reply, I figured it wasnt anything but small under-powered speakers.
Im looking to get a good receiver with some good speakers so shouldnt be too bad for awhile.

Yes, the speakers seem a bit hollow, not very dynamic at all, but as was mentioned Im sure alot of people use a system instead.

Hello,

First, thank you to this forum for being an excellent research resource!
First post, and although I have been lurking I am a newb. I have just purchased the following:

1. Panasonic 50" g15
2. Panasonic BD60 bluray
3. Sony CT100 soundbar
4. HD PVR

I'm looking for advice on the best way to connect the above components. Is it simply connecting each to the g15? (I have 4 hdmi cables).

Also, I will not always be using the soundbar when watching tv (ie kids watching cartoons)

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I returned my Sony 46XBR9 yesterday at Best Buy and this morning I ordered the Panasonic 46G15 from Vanns. I was planning to order the 42" version of it, but decided to get the 46" version instead. I have a feeling that the 46G15 is a better tv than the overpriced Sony 46XBR9 LCD.

Hello,

First, thank you to this forum for being an excellent research resource!
First post, and although I have been lurking I am a newb. I have just purchased the following:

1. Panasonic 50" g15
2. Panasonic BD60 bluray
3. Sony CT100 soundbar
4. HD PVR

I'm looking for advice on the best way to connect the above components. Is it simply connecting each to the g15? (I have 4 hdmi cables).

Also, I will not always be using the soundbar when watching tv (ie kids watching cartoons)

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


I would hook up everything into the soundbar...by HDMI . You can still use the TV's speakers when the SB is off..by running separate Audio L+R rca cables to the tv from the PVR.

Or you can just use the Optical from the PVR and BD60 to go into the soundbar.. and omit any video switching being done by the Sbar and hook the HDMI straight into the G15 from the BD60 and PVR.

I'm receiving my 46G15 next week and I have question. Is it ok to play games within the first 100 hours of the breakin period?

I'm receiving my 46G15 next week and I have question. Is it ok to play games within the first 100 hours of the breakin period?



I wouldn't ..but if your really pressed to do it..keep the contrast level at 50 and give it a break every hour by switching to watching tv.

I'm receiving my 46G15 next week and I have question. Is it ok to play games within the first 100 hours of the breakin period?

I wouldn't either as d-nice's break-in is pretty specific in what to play in the first 120 hours. Then again, I'm sure we would all enjoy this tv even if we didn't do a break-in.

I have a 3 quick questions for you guys & gals:

1) Does the "pixel orbiter" in the setup menu work best on the "automatic" setting, or should I set it to something else? What exactly does this do anyway? From my understanding, it helps adjust the pixels to avoid burn in on our screens.

2) How do I properly use the "anti-image retention" tool? When I turn it on, it's just a black screen with a scrolling white bar. Should I turn this on periodically (and if so, how often?), or only turn it on if I think my screen is starting to suffer from image retention?

3) What exactly is the difference between a $150 HDMI cable and a $15 HDMI cable aside from length & price? Currently, I'm using component cables from my XBOX360 to my G15, will switching to HDMI really make that much of a difference? FYI, the distance between the 360 to the HDMI port on the G15 is only about a foot and a half.

Thanks in advance!

I have a 3 quick questions for you guys & gals:

1) Does the "pixel orbiter" in the setup menu work best on the "automatic" setting, or should I set it to something else? What exactly does this do anyway? From my understanding, it helps adjust the pixels to avoid burn in on our screens.

2) How do I properly use the "anti-image retention" tool? When I turn it on, it's just a black screen with a scrolling white bar. Should I turn this on periodically (and if so, how often?), or only turn it on if I think my screen is starting to suffer from image retention?

3) What exactly is the difference between a $150 HDMI cable and a $15 HDMI cable aside from length & price? Currently, I'm using component cables from my XBOX360 to my G15, will switching to HDMI really make that much of a difference? FYI, the distance between the 360 to the HDMI port on the G15 is only about a foot and a half.

Thanks in advance!

1) not sure..... I dont believe I even use orbiter since I have the size set to size 2
2) you don't need to use it unless you get IR
3) there is no difference, buy $3 cables from monoprice

1) not sure..... I dont believe I even use orbiter since I have the size set to size 2
2) you don't need to use it unless you get IR
3) there is no difference, buy $3 cables from monoprice

Thanks for the info!

Well it is a bridge. It work on the G15 with no problem. It is the Linksys WET610N. It accept G, B & N wave.

Did you have a password for your wifi? If so, how do I get put the password into the bridge so it'll connect to my passwd-protected home network, or are the settings done to the bridge connected to the pc first, before moving the bridge to the tv?

I shot some pics of my G15 screen... I used SerialMike's settings for the G10...

Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: +65
Brightness: +46
Color: +44
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +72

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/canaris/pana3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/canaris/pana.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/canaris/pana1.jpg

How do you like serialmike's settings in person? To me it is always hard to tell from my computer. I am running my g15 through the dnice break in process right now and I am trying to figure out the best settings to try out when it is done. I have seen that some people think standard mode is the way to go instead of custom. Have you tried any settings in standard? Did you change anything in the SM?

I ran Dnice's SD card program for about 50 hours then I gave up..too many people want to watch the tv... I tried different settings but SerialMikes seem to be the ones I am enjoying more right now... maybe I will try something different later.

should someone change this thread to the official "Panasonic TC-P42G15, TC-P46G15, and TC-P50G15 Owner's Discussion Thread" thread?

just a thought
sukram

waiting for my g15, t-6 days

Select New York as your top or favorite city. Once you do that, you will be able to delete it and put your hometown as your default city. I use a linksys gaming adapter for my wireless connection and it synced up instantly.

been watching the new 50G15 for a few few days now. got it hard wired to my router, haven't been able to get the wireless working, but since I started playing with VieraCast, figured out how to watch youtube. UI can't however, get the weather info to display MY city. I am able if I drill into it, and choose the my city (which is a favorite), but everytime I go back to the full scrreen that shows Bloomberg, amazon, youtube, picasso, etc, I get New York.

any ideas?

Looks great. All of the Noise filters off?

I shot some pics of my G15 screen... I used SerialMike's settings for the G10...

Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: +65
Brightness: +46
Color: +44
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +72

Looks great. All of the Noise filters off?

Yes.:)

Would someone please comment on the THX mode for the G15s. Since they have been released after the G10s, has Panasonic addressed some of the issues that have been reported in the G10 such as the yellow cast and low light output? Thank you!

IMHO,I don't see a difference between the G10 and the G15 in the THX mode... I still find the factory THX setting a bit too dark for my taste.. and yes it somewhat casts a yellowness on some viewing material depending on what quality your watching..

IMHO,I don't see a difference between the G10 and the G15 in the THX mode... I still find the factory THX setting a bit too dark for my taste.. and yes it somewhat casts a yellowness on some viewing material depending on what quality your watching..

Thank you Kanaris for your quick reply. I have been on the fence about getting a 46" G15, or waiting until next year to see what improvements Panasonic will make. While I would prefer the V10 as it seems to have most of the bugs of the G10 worked out it's not available in a 46". Considering that a properly working THX mode is something I would like to have, and since it worked great in last years 800U, I think I will just wait to see what rolls around for 2010. Thanks again!

I shot some pics of my G15 screen... I used SerialMike's settings for the G10...

Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: +65
Brightness: +46
Color: +44
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +72


Wow! Not only is that a great TV image, those are great photos! Could you describe your picture-taking technique? Maybe we could ALL make screenshots as good as yours then. (OK, I mean me)

I used a Nikon D70s with the setting set to "P" and the room lights off. I positioned myself slightly off axis in relation to the screen.... I shot a lot of pics these were the better ones. I am still working on my technique.... and trying to reduce the amount of 'herringbone effect' they give when captured through the digital cameras processor.

i purchased my 50 inch g15 at 6th ave on aug 29th i paid 1550 including tax and got a 3 year warranty on it. i upgraded to this from a 40 inch samsung lcd lns4051d. the difference is night and day. i notice things in video games and movies that i couldnt see on lcd. i have yet to mount it on the wall because the existing bracket has to be lowered to make up for the size difference. i just plugged it in out of the box and set it on thx mode and im happy with the picture as it.

I just purchased a a new TC-P42G15 Plasma. It's my first foray into the HD world so, a lot to learn.

I noticed when viewing 1080i HDTV channels that there was a solid green stripe/bar/line on the right side of the screen (top to bottom). It's about a quarter inch thick.

After a few hours of TV menu and cable box adjustments I found out the cause of this green line is THX picture mode. The green line is only present when I set the TV to THX picture mode.

I found some threads on other sites about this including a CNET review of the TV. It appears it's not a TV issue but, some incompatibility with Comcast, the Motorola DVR box and the G10 and G15.

I have a Comcast digital cable and using their Motorola DCT3412 DVR box. I have not hooked up my receiver yet and am just connecting HDMI from cable box into the TV.

I haven't found that there is any type of fix or acknowledgment of this incompatibility. I contacted Comcast and the tech rep was not aware of any issue with their service or hardware.

It appears there is no fix to this other than not using THX mode? Anyone encountered this issue or aware of it?

Thanks.

I just purchased a a new TC-P42G15 Plasma. It's my first foray into the HD world so, a lot to learn. I noticed when viewing 1080i HDTV channels that there was a solid green stripe/bar/line on the right side of the screen (top to bottom). It's about a quarter inch thick. After a few hours of TV menu and cable box adjustments I found out the cause of this green line is THX picture mode. The green line is only present when I set the TV to THX picture mode. I found some threads on other sites about this including a CNET review of the TV. It appears it's not a TV issue but, some incompatibility with Comcast, the Motorola DVR box and the G10 and G15. I have a Comcast digital cable and using their Motorola DCT3412 DVR box. I have not hooked up my receiver yet and am just connecting HDMI from cable box into the TV.

I haven't found that there is any type of fix or acknowledgment of this incompatibility. I contacted Comcast and the tech rep was not aware of any issue with their service or hardware.

It appears there is no fix to this other than not using THX mode? Anyone encountered this issue or aware of it?It's not an incompatability with the G10/G15 or any other model or brand of TV, it's that you're using the wrong Picture mode to watch cable TV. The green line thing has been discussed a lot on AVS over the years.

First off, there is nothing wrong with your TV - the green line is being introduced by your HD cable box and your TV is accurately displaying the signal it's getting when you have it in THX mode. When the TV is in THX mode the HD Size setting gets locked in Size 2 mode which yields zero overscan. The HD cable box on the other hand expects the TV to have some overscan so when the TV is in THX mode, it exposes the green line flaw that would normally be hidden by overscan on a Tube TV.

THX mode should really only be used for watching DVDs. When you use THX for cable or satellite or whatever, it will often expose green lines and data strips along the edges and there's no way to hide them because the TV gets locked into HD Size 2 mode.

Since your HD cable box is sending that green line in the signal, you should use Custom or Standard mode instead - they enable you to use the the HD Size 1 setting which will give you a few percent of overscan and hides the green line. THX is too dark for HD cable anyway.

You should be glad that Panasonic includes the HD Size 1 feature that enables you to hide the cable box's flaw. My older PX50U and my high-end HP LCD TV don't have any way to hide this green line when present. I love the fact that my G10 hides it!

Thanks for the info Randy. I've set it to custom and using HD size 1. Now, to search threads for recommended customization settings.

Thanks for the info Randy. I've set it to custom and using HD size 1. Now, to search threads for recommended customization settings.Here's my settings that i posted in the G10 thread. Just know that i like my screen on the bright side so my Contrast setting is higher than most other people's posted settings so if you like the darkness of THX Mode (i hate it), you'll probably want to drop the Contrast setting 10-20 ticks lower than mine ;)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16809310&postcount=4429

After reading all of the comments above it sounds like this is a good TV.
I am in the market for a new 50 inch plasma and I have narrowed my choices to this model and the Samsung B650, I visited a few stores today to see them I found the Samsung at 3 different stores it looked excellent at the video speciality store, so-so at the local best buy and very good at the local 6th Ave Electronics store. (using sat HD or HD cable as a source.)

The only store to carry the Pana G15 was 6th Avenue but it was only hooked up to a Blue-Ray player.

Has anyone here looked at both and compared the two with HD feeds?

Did you have a password for your wifi? If so, how do I get put the password into the bridge so it'll connect to my passwd-protected home network, or are the settings done to the bridge connected to the pc first, before moving the bridge to the tv?

It work pretty much like a USB wifi with router setup. The bridge have a password in the setup like a router & it connect to the router like a wifi.

Indeed you have to connect the router first on the PC to setup the bridge like the router.

With the PC you setup the bridge to connect to the wireless router.

Got a smoking deal at Nebraska Furniture Mart on a 42" a week and half ago. First HDTV, have it in the bedroom. Directv had come out and put in HD (we just moved) since I planned to get a 65V10 for the living room, but decided to pick up this set since it was such a smoking deal, and wait for the 65V10 to drop in price.

This thing is awesome with Directv HD, picture is so natural, I really enjoy it. Going to do a ceiling mount on it in a couple of weeks. Using the settings from page 4, didn't do a break-in, not a hint of IR so far.

I have a Pioneer 5010-FD in my family room. Looking to get a tv for living room. Would like to get a Pioneer 500-M but wife thinks it is too big for the living room. Thinking of getting a Panasonic 46G15 or a 42G15. Any thoughts? Would I be as happy as I am with the 5010?

Here's my settings that i posted in the G10 thread.

Thanks Randy. This helps quite a bit.

Subscribed.

I have a trustworthy friend of mine who used to work at Future Shop (one of the few knowledgeable people there), and now works in a very high end Audio/Video shop near my house, told me that the G15 is in fact a G10 with lesser quality components. The G15 in fact has a lower cost than the G10 and is manufactured specifically for big box stores for bigger profit margins. His past experience with models of this type were that the return rates for problems were much higher than their original, more expensive counterparts.

I currently have a 54V10 which I love and am looking for a 46 or 50 G10 or G15 for the bedroom. The G10 and G15 look the same on paper with the exception of the slightly thinner build on the G15. I am however concerned with his comments on the possible quality of the G15 series.

Does anyone have any comments this?

Note that his comments were based on fact because he went to one particular manufacturer's offices to discuss what would be in a specific product...

When I bought my G15 at Futureshop they still had stock of G10 ..the G10 was $100 less... So I don't understand what your friend is saying.. In fact the G15 is listed at $100 more all over the place... it's one step above the G10 IMO.I get staff price at Futureshop and I am some how involved with them.... I have never heard of such a thing.

This is the downtown Montreal store...


Edit:

Panasonic sells the G15 and G10 directly online > and the G15 costs more (http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/VIERA-2009-HDTVs-Series/VIERA-G15-Series-Plasma-1080p-HDTVs.list.135002_11002_7000000000000005702)

G10 price (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PNAEndecaSearchCmd?N=779832047&No=0&Nr=12001&Ns=&Ntk=MainSearch&URL=vShopSearch&cmTag=true&catalogId=13401&storeId=15001&Ntt=g10&cm_sp=SiteSearch-_-MainSearch-_-Consumer)

G15 is listed at $100 more all over the place... it's one step above the G10 IMO.

The G10 and G15 are identical in terms of picture quality. All you are doing is paying 100$-200$ more for the slimmer design when you opt for the G15 instead of the G10.

The G10 and G15 are identical in terms of picture quality. All you are doing is paying 100$-200$ more for the slimmer design when you opt for the G15 instead of the G10.

This is my understanding as well. It's my own assumption that Panasonic simply wanted something affordable in their lineup with the growing popularity of thin design displays.

The G10 and G15 are identical in terms of picture quality. All you are doing is paying 100$-200$ more for the slimmer design when you opt for the G15 instead of the G10. In the US, the pricing on the G15/G10 is pretty much the same online if you shop around. I would pretty much get whichever model is cheaper since the US versions only differ aesthetically.

It's ashame we didn't get the european G15 with DLNA/DIVX and an extra HDMI port. That would have made paying extra for a g15 worthwhile.

I know the G15 retails for $100 more. That was his point. It retails for more, costs less and therefore big box stores like Future Shop make much more money on these models.

Well, I'm glad no one has provided any corrobortaing comments so far...

:):):)

I have a trustworthy friend of mine who used to work at Future Shop (one of the few knowledgeable people there), and now works in a very high end Audio/Video shop near my house, told me that the G15 is in fact a G10 with lesser quality components. The G15 in fact has a lower cost than the G10 and is manufactured specifically for big box stores for bigger profit margins. His past experience with models of this type were that the return rates for problems were much higher than their original, more expensive counterparts.

I currently have a 54V10 which I love and am looking for a 46 or 50 G10 or G15 for the bedroom. The G10 and G15 look the same on paper with the exception of the slightly thinner build on the G15. I am however concerned with his comments on the possible quality of the G15 series.

Does anyone have any comments this?

Note that his comments were based on fact because he went to one particular manufacturer's offices to discuss what would be in a specific product...Your friend is wrong and his comments are not based on fact. I'd really like to know just what "offices" he claims to have gotten this information from.

The G15 was to be marketed regionally as opposed to the G10 which is their nation-wide model. The G15's List Price was originally $200 higher than the G10 to enable the higher end stores to make more margin while also giving them some wiggle room in negotiating a lower price for their interested customers, but Panasonic later closed that gap to $100 and the G15 started to become available from more online vendors. They gave the G15 a fancy slimmer rear cabinet which is mostly just a marketing tool since everybody is so hung up on thinness lately. It was part of Panasonic's strategy of supporting the higher-end retail market that supported Panasonic, and probably in some ways was a bit of retaliation against Best Buy being in bed with Samsung and how they constantly push people away from Panasonic and talk them into getting a Samsung instead.

The G15 uses the exact same internal components as the G10. And all the part numbers i've compared are the same. Panasonic does not make models with "lesser quality components", in fact they use the same components across all of their model lines (video boards, input boards, power supplies, etc) which keeps the cost of production lower. If they were to have a separate assembly line that used lesser quality components that would actually increase the cost of production, not lower it.

So I got the 42G15 yesterday and first thing I did was hook up my Xbox 360. I had to hook it up using component instead of HDMI as I don't have the HDMI version of the Xbox. When changing to 1080p in the dash the dashboard did not accept it and forced me to choose 480p, 720p, or 1080i. Can this TV not do 1080p over component? Are you forced to use HDMI to get 1080p?

....Can this TV not do 1080p over component? Are you forced to use HDMI to get 1080p?Most TVs will only accept 1080p over HDMI, but not Component.

Your friend is wrong and his comments are not based on fact. I'd really like to know just what "offices" he claims to have gotten this information from.

The G15 was to be marketed regionally as opposed to the G10 which is their nation-wide model. The G15's List Price was originally $200 higher than the G10 to enable the higher end stores to make more margin while also giving them some wiggle room in negotiating a lower price for their interested customers, but Panasonic later closed that gap to $100 and the G15 started to become available from more online vendors. They gave the G15 a fancy slimmer rear cabinet which is mostly just a marketing tool since everybody is so hung up on thinness lately. It was part of Panasonic's strategy of supporting the higher-end retail market that supported Panasonic, and probably in some ways was a bit of retaliation against Best Buy being in bed with Samsung and how they constantly push people away from Panasonic and talk them into getting a Samsung instead.

The G15 uses the exact same internal components as the G10. And all the part numbers i've compared are the same. Panasonic does not make models with "lesser quality components", in fact they use the same components across all of their model lines (video boards, input boards, power supplies, etc) which keeps the cost of production lower. If they were to have a separate assembly line that used lesser quality components that would actually increase the cost of production, not lower it.

Well, I'm glad to hear this. Panasonic may not do this but there is another vendor who created a SKU for big-box stores with a higher retail price with much bigger margins. It's good to hear your opinion cause I really want a G15. Thanks for the feedback...

Just picked up the g15 two days ago and have been breaking it in by turning the contrast, brightness, etc down below 50 on Standard Mode and pretty much leaving it on 24/7 in full screen HD. Question is - Why am I getting 4 little Red dots/squares permanately on my screen? I tried turning the set off, went from HDMI to component and used the AIR rolling bar with no luck. Should I be returning the set or is this normal? Will it eventually go away? Thanks in advance!

Question on black bars, format and image retention.

I have the display set to use picture format of FULL.
When viewing High Def cable channels, I receive two different picture formats:

16:9 format - 1080i
4:3 format with black bars on left and right - also 1080i
(I assume the content on the HD channel wasn't filmed for widescreen)

My question is regarding image retention.
I've read that watching a picture in 4:3 aspect for extended periods can cause image retention. I have Anti image retention set as BRIGHT for 4:3 bars.

Now, when watching a HD channel and the channel content happens to be broadcast in 4:3 aspect, my display doesn't change to 4:3 mode with bright white bars, they stay black (on FULL format). Is this an issue? Now, if I manually change the picture format from FULL to 4:3, the bars turn white.

So, when I am viewing 4:3 HD channel content, should I be manually changing the picture format from FULL to 4:3 to get the white bars? Seems strange that when a 4:3 aspect picture comes in that the display doesn't change to that mode automatically.


Also, what about 16:9 content that doesn't fill in the entire screen and leaves black bars on top and bottom of picture? I see this when watching blu-ray movies. Anything to worry about?

It's not an incompatability with the G10/G15 or any other model or brand of TV, it's that you're using the wrong Picture mode to watch cable TV. The green line thing has been discussed a lot on AVS over the years.

First off, there is nothing wrong with your TV - the green line is being introduced by your HD cable box and your TV is accurately displaying the signal it's getting when you have it in THX mode. When the TV is in THX mode the HD Size setting gets locked in Size 2 mode which yields zero overscan. The HD cable box on the other hand expects the TV to have some overscan so when the TV is in THX mode, it exposes the green line flaw that would normally be hidden by overscan on a Tube TV.


Came across a similar issue and not sure if it's coincidence or a totally different issue which I experienced. I have an ancient Panny TH42PWD6 that started to have shutdown issues about 6 months ago. Long story short, I had to replace a faulty chip on one of the system boards that was overheating. Once replaced it fixed the shutdown issue however I began to experience a solid line on the left side of the screen about 6-8 inches from the bezel. It would happen on any input or feed and would vary in color (red, green, black) depending on the channel that was being viewed.

I was told it might be a bad C board or bad panel, however my model was still driven dual-scan, that is from top and bottom, so bad lines would only go half way up or down and stop in the middle. I was also told it could be a loose D board ribbon, dust or even mount bolts being too tight pressing on the back panel. I removed the back panel many times and checked over everything. The line would come and go, sometimes only take 10 minutes to appear and other times I could watch for 5 hours before it would show up. Now, all of a sudden no more line. It has been 2 months and counting (knock on wood). I wish I knew what caused this issue or better yet if it will come back....:confused: :confused:

I have a Time Warner SA 8300 HD. Attached are a couple pics of the line..

Does anybody have any advice on settings for watching Blu-Ray?

I'm watching my first Blu-Ray now (just picked up a slim PS3 an hour ago) and was just messing around in the G15's menu. I'm not sure what the difference is between 48hz and 60hz in the advanced picture settings for example.

Anything I should know about getting optimal picture quality? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Cjanssen83,

I believe that my HZ setting in advanced menu are greyed out when I go in and do my adjustments.

You might want to run a search on the g10 owners thread as you will probably find your answer there.

The G10 and G15 are identical TV's except for the cosmetic changes.

Does anybody have any advice on settings for watching Blu-Ray?

I'm watching my first Blu-Ray now (just picked up a slim PS3 an hour ago) and was just messing around in the G15's menu. I'm not sure what the difference is between 48hz and 60hz in the advanced picture settings for example.

Anything I should know about getting optimal picture quality? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Both of these are cinema modes for watching 24p playback from a Blu-Ray player/disc. The 60hz uses 3/2 pulldown and looks (to my eyes) excellent on everything. The 48hz (double the 24p playback frames) seems to flicker for most people. I have a huge collection of B&W films from the 30's & 40's. The 48hz refresh rate gives an extra sense of detail and depth on these, but gives me a headache on anything color.

For Blu-Ray, try the THX mode in a mostly darkened room. And don't turn it off too quickly because you think it looks dull. Panasonic did an excellent job as far as grey scale, detail, and color accuracy with this. Many people dislike this mode as it seems dim. This appears to be about the same light output (except on a smaller screen) as I see at a theater. My wife and I go to the movies 40-45 times a year and that is our main, along with college football and basketball) use for our new Panasonic plasma.

Question on black bars, format and image retention.

I have the display set to use picture format of FULL.
When viewing High Def cable channels, I receive two different picture formats:

16:9 format - 1080i
4:3 format with black bars on left and right - also 1080i
(I assume the content on the HD channel wasn't filmed for widescreen)

My question is regarding image retention.
I've read that watching a picture in 4:3 aspect for extended periods can cause image retention. I have Anti image retention set as BRIGHT for 4:3 bars.

Now, when watching a HD channel and the channel content happens to be broadcast in 4:3 aspect, my display doesn't change to 4:3 mode with bright white bars, they stay black (on FULL format). Is this an issue? Now, if I manually change the picture format from FULL to 4:3, the bars turn white.

So, when I am viewing 4:3 HD channel content, should I be manually changing the picture format from FULL to 4:3 to get the white bars? Seems strange that when a 4:3 aspect picture comes in that the display doesn't change to that mode automatically.


Also, what about 16:9 content that doesn't fill in the entire screen and leaves black bars on top and bottom of picture? I see this when watching blu-ray movies. Anything to worry about?

Many HD channels still broadcast some content in 480i or 480p. The local CBS affiliate in Memphis does all of their local broadcasting in 480p (4x3) and network broadcasts in 1080i (16x9). My TV is normally on FULL and when I receive their 480p broadcast, I have black bars on the side. If I change to 4x3 aspect, my bars change to grey. Avoid the black bars for the first 100 to 200 hours and you will be fine. Beside a new V10, I also have a 3 year old 42" Panasonic. It probably has as many hours displaying 4x3 content with black bars as it does full screen content. I did as Panasonic suggested, avoiding the black bars for the first 120 hours (probably more), and have never seen any burn-in, IR, etc. from the black bars.

Forgot - on the upper / lower black bars from anamorphic video, either zoom the picture to get rid of these during the initial break-in period, or if you are lucky, your DVD/Blu-Ray player may have an option in its menu to display everything as full screen. My old DVD player had this, my Blu-Ray player does not. Or if it does, they have hidden it so well, I can't find it.

Both of these are cinema modes for watching 24p playback from a Blu-Ray player/disc. The 60hz uses 3/2 pulldown and looks (to my eyes) excellent on everything. The 48hz (double the 24p playback frames) seems to flicker for most people. I have a huge collection of B&W films from the 30's & 40's. The 48hz refresh rate gives an extra sense of detail and depth on these, but gives me a headache on anything color.

For Blu-Ray, try the THX mode in a mostly darkened room. And don't turn it off too quickly because you think it looks dull. Panasonic did an excellent job as far as grey scale, detail, and color accuracy with this. Many people dislike this mode as it seems dim. This appears to be about the same light output (except on a smaller screen) as I see at a theater. My wife and I go to the movies 40-45 times a year and that is our main, along with college football and basketball) use for our new Panasonic plasma.

I couldn't really notice any difference when switching between 48hz and 60hz yesterday. The only thing I did notice was when in 48hz there is in fact some minor flicker on bright objects. It's nothing too terrible IMO, but considering that I couldn't tell a difference between 48hz and 60hz in the first place, I suppose I'll just keep it at 60hz.

Watched a movie in THX mode too. I think the THX mode looks great and not too "dull" like a lot of users talked about. Realistically, everybody's eyes and preferences are different obviously, but THX looks great for me.

Here's the really WEIRD thing I noticed though (not related to Blu-Ray, picture settings, etc.). I don't have cable TV and was using rabbit ears and a digital box for pulling in stations.

I was messing around with the setup the other day while the TV was on. I unplugged the digital converter box and the antenna....but the TV was still fine and the channel I was watching didn't change at all! I thought it was odd, but what the heck...now I can get rid of this eyesore of an antenna!

The weird thing about this is that I just have the antenna extension plugged into the back of the G15. It's not connected to any antenna and simply is just hanging there. Once I pull out that extension however, that's when the TV reads "NO SIGNAL" and I can't get any channels. Odd indeed. Anybody know what or why this is happening?

So I bought a 50" G15 from Onecall the other day after seeing the G10 in Best Buy. Got the $50 BD 60 deal. Here's my question. I know they claim the G15 is thinner than the G10, but my understanding is that only the top portion is thinner while the bottom section is the same size. I am planning to wall mount this in my bedroom. The guy at Onecall claims that some piece can be removed from the bottom of the G15 so that it is the same "thinner" thickness throughout. I told him I didn't think that was correct, but I'm hoping it is. Anyone know the answer?

I know they claim the G15 is thinner than the G10, but my understanding is that only the top portion is thinner while the bottom section is the same size.That's correct - only about the upper 1/3rd of the rear panel is thinner than the lower 2/3rd, and that lower 2/3rd is about the same thickness at the whole back of the G10. The wall mounting holes are located in this thicker lower 2/3rd area so the G15 won't really sit any closer to the wall than a G10 would. If you look at the pic of the Japanese V1 that i posted on the first page of this thread, you can see how the back panel looks and how the upper mounting holes are located just below the stepped part where the thickness changes. The G15's rear cover is virtually the same as the V1 and V10.

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090203/pana2_11.jpg

The guy at Onecall claims that some piece can be removed from the bottom of the G15 so that it is the same "thinner" thickness throughout. I told him I didn't think that was correct, but I'm hoping it is. Anyone know the answer?He's full of crap. There is nothing removable to make the thickest part of the TV any thinner than it already is.

Thanks that's helpful and makes sense. I knew that guy had no idea what he was talking about.

after seeing the amazing pics of the TC-P42G15, i no longer want a lcd, considering it or the TC-P42G10, specs for both look identical. Both have ethernet, media slot and pc input. This forum makes my decision so much harder :)

Well my 50" g15 is on the way and should be here monday or tuesday. I want to wall mount it and I have a new level mount, in the box, that is good up to 65" and 200lb monitor. Before I mount it to the wall, I need to know where the attachment points are on the G15 and the size of screws used to verify it will work.

Hi Guys,
I just bought my 46" G15 this morning. I paid $1250 for it with a 3 year warranty included. I recently bought a Sony LCD and the blacks look terrible. I am hoping the Panny will blow it away.
Steel

Hi, just bought Tc-p42g15 for 882 from ABT. Great deal.
Can you adjust brightness? When i trying to do this nothing happened.
Scroll bar is moving, but the picture staying the same.

Hi, just bought Tc-p42g15 for xxxxx. Can you adjust brightness? When i trying to do this nothing happened. Scroll bar is moving, but the picture staying the same.Yes the brightness is adjustable, but it's meant to adjust the black level while watching the TV, not when using the scroll bar. Try it again while actually watching TV.

I tried everything TV, DVD, HD Content, nothing happened. I cant see any difference in brightness with hi or low setting.

got mine on friday- amazon.com pretty nice TV (50")
colors look good- good motion. have not tried tuning it yet.

I tried everything TV, DVD, HD Content, nothing happened. I cant see any difference in brightness with hi or low setting.So you're saying that while watching HD TV or DVDs, adjusting the Brightness setting from say +80 to +20 you're not seeing the black levels changing at all? That doesn't make sense - the more you turn it down, the more it crushes the black levels until they become one big blob.

If you want to actually make the screen brighter, you need to adjust the Contrast setting.

So here's a dumb question for ya. How come some movies play in a widescreen format with the black bars on the top and bottom? Aren't our TVs widescreen to begin with, or am I missing something?

Also, how come some Blu-Ray movies look drastically different then others? For example, I saw a clip of U-571 playing on a Sony Bravia in Best Buy the other day. It looked so detailed and crisp that I could practically see the pores on the character's faces. Then, I watch The Transporter at home on my G15 (on Blu-Ray) and it simply looks like a slightly better version of the regular DVD.

Pick up one of those HD sampler Blurays..they cost about $5.00... and you will see what your G15 is capable of..

HD SAMPLER (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/images/B000V6LSVI/sr=1-1/qid=1253029685/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=917972&s=dvd&qid=1253029685&sr=1-1)

Hi Guys,
I just bought my 46" G15 this morning. I paid $1250 for it with a 3 year warranty included. I recently bought a Sony LCD and the blacks look terrible. I am hoping the Panny will blow it away.
Steel

Congrats. I just bought one about 10 days ago. I love it.

So I have had my 50" g15 for a few weeks now. I did Dnice's 120 hour break in and have since searched threads on this forum for different setting people have been using and then tried them on my own. I still can't find anything that blows me away like I was expecting with this tv. Yes the black levels look nice (deep), especially changing to the panny after 38 months of a samsung lcd, but that was expected. Bluerays look good particularly on still scenes and some cable channels look good when there isn't any motion and the picture is close up. Now that football has started I'm really not impressed with the quality of the picture when watching games. Again, close ups of the sideline when no one is moving look good, but when the camera pans up and the view is of all players lined up the quality looks like dvd quality at best.

I probably focus on the fine details of a picture more than most people, but even with that being said I have been disappointed so far. My thoughts are that the people on this forum are just as critical if not more than me about PQ. I have been considering forking up $200 for a pro-calibration.

Am I missing something here? I have been using:

STANDARD
Contrast 76
Sharpness 59
Tint -1
Brightness 42
Color 41
NORMAL color temp

BL - Light
Everything Else Off

I have seen a lot of people posting about how they are using CUSTOM but to me when I change it to custom it looks worse.

HI SoxUcf,

I have been using SerialMikes setting on Standard and really like them. These setting are copied below.
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Enable Game Mode

While this is not a necessary step I highly recommend this when calibrating you monitor to produce the best image.

Goto Menu-Setup-Connected Devices-Input Labels. Rename your inputs "Game"
This enables Game mode on the Monitor. Which has the advantages of Faster phospher response time. No motion enhancements and You can use the "game" button on the remote to cycle thru the all inputs labeled game.


I have settings for Standard, THX and Custom. As always Enjoy

Intended Use-FiosTV, Blu Ray, DVD, Ps3, x360
Picture Mode: Standard
Contrast: +57
Brightness: +49
Color: +48
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +83

Color Temp: Warm 2
Color Mgmt: Off
x.v. Color: Off
CATS: Off
Video NR: Off

3D Y/C Filter: Grayed Out - OFF
Color Matrix: HD
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
24p Direct In: Grayed Out - 60Hz
HD Size: Size 1 For FiosTV, Size 2 for Bluray, DVD, PS3, X360
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One thing I do notice is that your color temp is set to Normal. This is more of a personal preference setting, however most people use Warm1 or Warm2 as a setting.

I was watching the Raiders/Chargers game the other day on Dish Network and the picture was very nice.

I have created a different setting under game mode for watching football though that has a little more "pop" to it than the above settings.

So just to make sure, the G15 isnt lower quality than the g10 correct? Do lots of companies do that to make bigger margins for companies? Seems kind of sketchy to me......

So just to make sure, the G15 isnt lower quality than the g10 correct? Do lots of companies do that to make bigger margins for companies? Seems kind of sketchy to me......


That has already been fully explained by Randy... read the thread.

Sorry I am new here, but is Randy extremely credible? I'm not trying to start any flame wars, I am just asking an honest question.

So just to make sure, the G15 isnt lower quality than the g10 correct?actually it's the opposite.

early on there was confusion that the G15 actually has more features like an extra hdmi and DLNA. It does have those features for some of the European versions.

For the US version they skipped those extras and just gave it the same specs as the g10. Except for a little change in the rear plastic near the top so that they can claim "slimmer".

i.e. shop for both of them and get whichever one is cheaper. Ignore the List Price that claims that the G15 is $100 more. G15 is the same price or less than G10...depending on the deals. Pricing has fluctuated a lot in the marketplace for both models.

After months of reading about plasmas and thinking I needed a Pioneer 500M, sight unseen, I walked into Best Buy and saw the Panny G10 and thought the picture was actually fine. I didn't care for the silver on the bottom though, so I just kept looking. Who would have thought they'd give us nitpickers the G15 :) Just ordered mine for a pretty fair price and I can't wait!!! Hopefully it doesn't show up with a muddy boot print on the screen. The way I see it, this should be a marvelous first HDTV coming from an old Panny CRT which has served me well for many years.

After months of reading about plasmas and thinking I needed a Pioneer 500M, sight unseen, I walked into Best Buy and saw the Panny G10 and thought the picture was actually fine. I didn't care for the silver on the bottom though, so I just kept looking. Who would have thought they'd give us nitpickers the G15 :) Just ordered mine for a pretty fair price and I can't wait!!! Hopefully it doesn't show up with a muddy boot print on the screen. The way I see it, this should be a marvelous first HDTV coming from an old Panny CRT which has served me well for many years.

The G15 was my first HDTV purchase as well. It's an amazing TV, you'll love it. I too came from an old CRT set prior to this.

Did you do the break-in? I have an opportunity to run it for 150 hours since I'm going out of town for a little bit, but I'm nervous it will freeze on something and destroy the picture.

I have a G15 on the way, and I'm looking forward to taking advantage of the expert advice I've gathered here.

A question about hooking up the TV to a wireless network: Would something like the Squeezebox Receiver work as a wireless access point/bridge by simply connecting the Ethernet port on the TV to the Ethernet port on the Squeezebox?

I know there are cheaper solutions (e.g., a wireless gaming adapter), but if I was going to get a Squeezebox anyway, this would actually save some money. (I know the Squeezebox only operates on 802.11g, not n, but I don't think my DSL connection, at 6 Mbps, is fast enough to take advantage of 802.11n, right?)

Jason

Did you do the break-in? I have an opportunity to run it for 150 hours since I'm going out of town for a little bit, but I'm nervous it will freeze on something and destroy the picture.

BAD idea.

This is going to be hard for me to explain because I do not know the correct terminology for plasma TV parts, but I will give it a shot. I've had a 50" G15 for less than a week and just noticed that the screen is not centered behind the frame. There are black strips around the edges of the screen to prevent the viewing of circuits or wires from straight on viewing. These circuits or wires looks to be going straight into the screen. It looks like the screen is sitting about .25" to the left as I can see these circuits or wires sticking out about .25" on the right side of the screen. I am not able to see these circuits or wires on the left side, top, or bottom of the screen unless I "look behind" the black strips. I hope my description is understandable.

Has anyone experienced this with a G15 or any other plasma?

This is going to be hard for me to explain because I do not know the correct terminology for plasma TV parts, but I will give it a shot. I've had a 50" G15 for less than a week and just noticed that the screen is not centered behind the frame. There are black strips around the edges of the screen to prevent the viewing of circuits or wires from straight on viewing. These circuits or wires looks to be going straight into the screen. It looks like the screen is sitting about .25" to the left as I can see these circuits or wires sticking out about .25" on the right side of the screen. I am not able to see these circuits or wires on the left side, top, or bottom of the screen unless I "look behind" the black strips. I hope my description is understandable.

Has anyone experienced this with a G15 or any other plasma?

I haven't noticed this on mine, but I haven't closely examined the edge of the screen looking for wires either. If this effects the picture quality, I would return it. If you're losing 1/4" of viewing, it's 1/200th the width or maybe 10 pixels. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but the problem may progress into something worse if it's a manufacturing defect.

BAD idea.

Noted. Thanks for the response! I suppose I'll just do it gradually and log my viewing/slide time. If you don't mind me asking, what are the recommended settings to use during this break-in? I'll be going through the break-in/settings threads again to see if I can find the answer. I'm assuming anything settings that go for the G10 can go for the G15? Thanks again guys!

Noted. Thanks for the response! I suppose I'll just do it gradually and log my viewing/slide time. If you don't mind me asking, what are the recommended settings to use during this break-in? I'll be going through the break-in/settings threads again to see if I can find the answer. I'm assuming anything settings that go for the G10 can go for the G15? Thanks again guys!

Keep Contrast below 50 and brightness too.Also, there is a time used value in the SM menu of the G10/15 so no need to log your hours manually :)

i am dumb- how tdo i change it to 60hz?
I do get a bit of "flicker" when i glance off to the side of it

I broke my G15 in non-stop. No problem here. Beautiful picture was my outcome.

Also, there is a time used value in the SM menu of the G10/15 so no need to log your hours manually

I don't recommend entering the SM menu unless you know what your doing as it is very easy to change things and there is no "reset button". I think logging your time on a sheet of paper would be a wiser choice in the matter.

I have a G15 on the way, and I'm looking forward to taking advantage of the expert advice I've gathered here. A question about hooking up the TV to a wireless network:
Jason

I'll second that request. I'd like to hook my P50G15 into my home wireless-N network. I don't expect to get much use out of the Vieracast feature but, since it's there, I might as well have access to it.

Being a simple caveman user, wireless networks frighten and confuse me. It appears there are several terms used to describe the necessary hardware: adapter, bridge, access point...maybe more.

I tried asking the little s--- on duty in the component section at Fry's. He lost interest and wandered off after I told him I had no idea what the string of numerals he'd just uttered meant.

All I want to do is suck the signal out of the air and feed it to the G15.

Could somebody who knows whereof they speak please just list the brand and model numbers of whatever electronic doohickeys will serve the purpose?

Thanks, in advance.

Could somebody who knows whereof they speak please just list the brand and model numbers of whatever electronic doohickeys will serve the purpose?Several owners in the G10 and V10 threads listed the brands and model numbers and other info so you should just search those threads since it's not likely they'll be monitoring this G15 thread.

please limit your posts to technical issues: no price talk allowed

see rules link in my sig

Thanks

Hey Randy, I found your custom settings posted somewhere on the forum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16809310&postcount=4429) and I think these are the best settings I have tried so far. The only difference for me is I use Warm 1 (personally preference I guess). I am guessing we have similar taste in this area so I thought I would ask you a couple questions:

1) Are you still using these settings or have you made adjustments to tweak the picture more?

2) Do you have any other settings or adjustments when viewing live sports such as football? I feel that these settings look great for most things but those views of football games from a long distance camera seem to need some more pop to add crispness.

3) What does the Video setting set to "weak" do? I read a couple other people say it artificially blurs the imagine. I have it on "off" right now, what would the benefit be to set it to weak?

Hey Randy, I found your custom settings posted somewhere on the forum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16809310&postcount=4429) and I think these are the best settings I have tried so far. The only difference for me is I use Warm 1 (personally preference I guess). I am guessing we have similar taste in this area so I thought I would ask you a couple questions:

1) Are you still using these settings or have you made adjustments to tweak the picture more?I have since dropped the Color down to +45 and am now using HD Size 2 (and ignoring the occasional data strip across the top of the image during some commercials and news stories). The rest of my settings have remained unchanged since i posted that. I used similar settings when i set up my friend's 50S1 and my "stepson's" 50S1 and they like the pop.


2) Do you have any other settings or adjustments when viewing live sports such as football? I feel that these settings look great for most things but those views of football games from a long distance camera seem to need some more pop to add crispness.Nope. The long shots like that do lose crispness and pop so i just suffer through them.


3) What does the Video setting set to "weak" do? I read a couple other people say it artificially blurs the imagine. I have it on "off" right now, what would the benefit be to set it to weak?It does seem to "blur the image", but it's either barely noticeable or it's just in my head and doesn't really do anything. I just left it on Weak to make me feel like i'm actually using the setting :)

I've had my 50"G15 for a little over a week and at first I was not that impressed but that has changed and it seems the picture is getting better. I do plan on doing the breakin slides soon.

I also noted that in the Chad B ranking thread he mentioned that Panasonic had a firmware update and he was going to redo his ranking. He said it solved a lot of problems he had noted previously. Anyone hook up to the internet and update?

There a no current firmware updates for the 50G15 TV per the Panasonic site.

http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/firmware/index.html

I've had my 50"G15 for a little over a week and at first I was not that impressed but that has changed and it seems the picture is getting better. I do plan on doing the breakin slides soon.

I also noted that in the Chad B ranking thread he mentioned that Panasonic had a firmware update and he was going to redo his ranking. He said it solved a lot of problems he had noted previously. Anyone hook up to the internet and update?From what i gather, the newest V10 models are being shipped with the updated firmware that fixes the THX issue, but no official or un-official mention of the current G10s or G15s being shipped with the new updated firmware, and no mention of a THX update being available through Vieracast download or via SD card from Panasonic USA for the V10 or G10/G15. Europe got the THX update through Vieracast download, so maybe Pansonic USA will offer the same thing here soon.

There appears to be another firmware update that fixes the Onkyo/HDMI handshake problem but that's not related to the THX fix.

Chated a bit with Panasonic today. Here is a portion of our chat. This might be why some people are receiving firmware updates on their new TV different from the old ones. I don't believe that this is a THX update. Basically he said that updates are being offered only on sets that are experiencing specific issues. He did not go into detail about the issues though.

Patrick (me): I have heard of a firmware update to resolve issued with the THX mode, is this being offered.

john: I don't show an update for that issue. the latest update I have is for specific serial numbers and unit that were produced before the serial number that end with 9153 as the date portion. the firmware was released as of 8/26/2009.

Chated a bit with Panasonic today. Here is a portion of our chat. This might be why some people are receiving firmware updates on their new TV different from the old ones. I don't believe that this is a THX update. Basically he said that updates are being offered only on sets that are experiencing specific issues. He did not go into detail about the issues though.

Patrick (me): I have heard of a firmware update to resolve issued with the THX mode, is this being offered.

john: I don't show an update for that issue. the latest update I have is for specific serial numbers and unit that were produced before the serial number that end with 9153 as the date portion. the firmware was released as of 8/26/2009.

What is the number preceeding the 9153?

Wish I Knew, that is all I have from panasonic. This was just posted by someone over on the G12 forum.
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Okay, I just got off the phone with Panasonic support after talking to them for 45min. They checked everything and said there is no THX update and that I would need to have my tv serviced. I did not accept this option yet since it is not a guaranteed fix. The only update she could find was for the hdmi issue for people with Onkyo receivers. Hopefully an update will be available eventually.

Update: Received a separate response to my e-mail that I had sent about THX issue which states that firmware is being mailed to me.

Update 2: Talked with Panasonic rep about what was being mailed to me and he said that the update that is out is for the G10/G15/V10 for Scan Improvements. I am hoping this will resolve the THX issue and will keep everyone updated when I receive the update in the mail.
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This whole update firmware thing is getting more confusing by the minute. I think since I am very happy with my 50G15 (including the THX mode which I personally tweeked a bit), I am going to take a "sit back and wait" mode when it comes to firmware updates.

What is the number preceeding the 9153?Those are just the last 4 digits of the TV's serial number (it's on the stickers on the back and/or side of the TV). My serial number's last four digits are 0326 so my 46G10 is the 326th unit ever made, and was built in February 2009.

I never use THX mode (it's way to dark even in a pitch black room) so i'm not interested in updating mine :)

Hi all.

After spending lots of hours choosing a suitable TV set for me I lean towards buying a Plasma TV - Panasonic (V, G, S) Samsung.

I did not see huge differences at the local dealer between the TV sets, so I thought I will settle my final decision on Chads review index.

Well - with the latet FW Upgrade and/or production date the picture quality improved vastly in the THX mode for the Panasonics (G and V).

But there is no THX mode in the european (or at least german) G15 model! Actually I do not need all feature of the V line.

This results in a couple of questions:
1) I assume the panel is nevertheless the same in both versions?
2) From my understanding the THX mode is only "necessary" because the Panasonic sets do not have full ISFccc controls - even in the service menu?
3) May the european version have a different service menü, perhaps with full ISFccc controls?

Thanks in advance

Quarter

Hello everyone, okay I have owned my G15 50" for about three months now. I have had Chad B. here to calibrate it and everything. But today I made a discovery. Maybe I'm late on this and perhaps someone here can enlighten me. But I've noticed while watching Blu Ray movies in Standard mode it gives the 24P setting more depth and more 3D-esque viewing. Its quite obvious actually. When I switched to my calibrated CUSTOM mode, while the picture looks great, it doesn't have the 3D vibe to it. Not even close really. My question is ...why is this? The sad thing is I didn't have Chad calibrate the Standard mode, he only did the custom and game modes. The other thing is that the flicker is even less noticeable.

For the future reference of anyone else, here's an (not the only) answer to my own question regarding accessing the Vieracast feature through a wireless network:

I used the Linksys WGA600N Dual-Band Wireless-N Gaming Adapter.

My wireless router is an ASUS WL-500W with Draft 802.11n. This router does not have the WPS feature which, apparently, would allow for automatic connections with similarly equipped peripheral devices.

During installation of the Linksys Adapter, I had to plug and unplug the power cord a few times until the indicator lights recognized the presence of a wireless network. Because of the router not being equipped with WPS, it was necessary to skip ahead in the manual and input the WEP key manually. (Fortunately, I had kept a written record of the WEP key when I was setting up the router).

From that point on, following the installation manual, connection was painless.

I don't see much of use in Vieracast that isn't more quickly and easily accessed through any internet-connected computer, but we paid for it so I figured..why not?

The thing I don't like about Vieracast is how long it takes to come onto the screen. It's like 5-10 seconds sometime before it comes up the first time.

Those are just the last 4 digits of the TV's serial number (it's on the stickers on the back and/or side of the TV). My serial number's last four digits are 0326 so my 46G10 is the 326th unit ever made, and was built in February 2009.

I never use THX mode (it's way to dark even in a pitch black room) so i'm not interested in updating mine :)

My 50" has the last four digit 0439 with a Aug. build month, I may be confused but it can't be the 439th unit ever made.

Brightness adjustment does nothing on my new G15 either. I am watching TV and the control seems to have absolutely no effect. Any ideas?

JUST ARRIVED TODAY!!!! I'm already impressed, but then again I'd be impressed with anything coming from a CRT. This board has scared me out of watching ESPN though. Anything with static images scares the hell out of me :D I guess I should check out the break-in images. Making sure to watch everything in "full" mode. HD is so awesome!!!

My 50" has the last four digit 0439 with a Aug. build month, I may be confused but it can't be the 439th unit ever made.Yean, but what are the four digits ahead of your last four of 0439?

There are several zeros ahead of my last four digits, and the TV was built between 1 and 5 weeks before the first G10's even became available for sale so i have to assume that it's a very very early example. Yours on the other hand may be the 1,640,439th unit ever built :D

JUST ARRIVED TODAY!!!! I'm already impressed, but then again I'd be impressed with anything coming from a CRT. This board has scared me out of watching ESPN though. Anything with static images scares the hell out of me :D I guess I should check out the break-in images. Making sure to watch everything in "full" mode. Dude you don't have to baby it!! I watched about 6 hours of 4:3 Speedchannel with black side bars and static SPEED logo in the corner only a few days after i got mine, in Custom mode with the Contrast setting cranked up to about +80 and the screen didn't even flinch. IR went away immediately. In the 3 months that i've owned it i've watched about 30% of my viewing with 4:3 black sidebars and there isn't a hint of them when i display full screen content. I have it tuned to KABC news a total of about 4 hours a day and their bright white station logo bug hasn't done a thing to my screen. I can't see any evidence of it when i play my break-in image slideshow. Just enjoy the TV and don't obsess about stuff that hasn't been an issue since about 4y years ago. If you're still worried, you can simply run the break-in slideshow when you're not watching and enjoying the TV.

I posted this on the G Series owner's thread but never got a reply. Maybe one of you can help me out...

"Okay, today i went to HH Gregg because they had all of the tv's that I was interested in. I went in specifically to see the LG LH90 and the G15. Of course they had the LH90 hooked up to it's own blu ray player and it looked wonderful. But I really wanted the G15 after reading here.

I went over to the G15 and it was only receiving a broadcast from a satellite receiver and it had lines all through it and it was grainy looking. No telling how far down the chain it was on the signal. When I was watching it though, I noticed that when something like a logo would move across the screen or it would pan across some scenery it had kind of a choppy feel to it.

Is this normal on the G10's or is this likely due to the bad signal?

I really want to like this tv, but It didn't leave a good impression, even though I keep telling myself it would probably be better when I got it home.

I will say i was pleasantly surprised at how well it did in the brightly lit environment."

Can't really compare the two if they're not even showing the same feed. Ask them to move that blu-ray player over to the other TV so that you can properly compare them.

Nor do we know what picture mode the TV is in and how it was adjusted.

I had a lot of trouble comparing TVs in the store. I went to a few different stores and it was largely a pointless excursion. The only thing it helped me decide a little was the size of the TV i wanted.

I largely bought the G15 based on reviews and price. I had some concerns about light levels during the daytime. Once the TV was home, any concerns I had were quickly dismissed. The G10/G15s are great sets.

[QUOTE=RemoWilliams84;17272766]I posted this on the G Series owner's thread but never got a reply. Maybe one of you can help me out...

"Okay, today i went to HH Gregg because they had all of the tv's that I was interested in. I went in specifically to see the LG LH90 and the G15. Of course they had the LH90 hooked up to it's own blu ray player and it looked wonderful. But I really wanted the G15 after reading here.

I went over to the G15 and it was only receiving a broadcast from a satellite receiver and it had lines all through it and it was grainy looking. No telling how far down the chain it was on the signal. When I was watching it though, I noticed that when something like a logo would move across the screen or it would pan across some scenery it had kind of a choppy feel to it.

Is this normal on the G10's or is this likely due to the bad signal?


Don't buy into anything you see on the showroom... take our word for it. You won't be disappointed.

Dude you don't have to baby it!! I watched about 6 hours of 4:3 Speedchannel with black side bars and static SPEED logo in the corner only a few days after i got mine, in Custom mode with the Contrast setting cranked up to about +80 and the screen didn't even flinch. IR went away immediately. In the 3 months that i've owned it i've watched about 30% of my viewing with 4:3 black sidebars and there isn't a hint of them when i display full screen content. I have it tuned to KABC news a total of about 4 hours a day and their bright white station logo bug hasn't done a thing to my screen. I can't see any evidence of it when i play my break-in image slideshow. Just enjoy the TV and don't obsess about stuff that hasn't been an issue since about 4y years ago. If you're still worried, you can simply run the break-in slideshow when you're not watching and enjoying the TV.

Wow Randy none at all? I watch a ton of ESPN, probably like four hours a day and it probably represents about 80 percent of the TV that I watch. I've had my G15 about three months now and I noticed the blue input screen on when I switching my receiver to another input that the ESPN was very visible in the lower corner. You couldn't see it during normal viewing, but the blue screen showed it very clearly. I spent about a week running IR rub screens and static snow to try and get rid of it. Well... about 95 percent of it is now gone, but its made me more cautious as when just watching SportsCenter or something like that I Zoom the logo off the screen.

Hotel Mode is a hidden mode that's used when the TV is installed in a hotel. It puts the TV into a basic operation mode that takes away the ability of various options like adjusting the picture, changing inputs, etc so guests can't screw it up for the next guess.

Maybe I should put my parents TV in Hotel Mode....LOL

They always screw something up.

ON Panasonics website in the specifications for the two televisions it shows the g10 has sub pixel control and the g15 without it..... all of the higher end Panasonics have it as well as the larger units in the g15 series the 46 and the 50 is this a typo ? is it meaningful?

Anyone else get artifacts with fast movement on Spike Tv HD? I don't seem to see it in commercials or other channels (at least not as prevalent.) What say ye folks?

Got my 50g15 in today... its amazing... I have the set on 45 contrast/ 45 brightness for the break in period of the first few weeks... and it still looks amazing.

Only thing that i dislike so far -- price dropped $100 since i ordered it last week on Amazon.com, selling for an amazing price right now. But thats all im saying -- no price talk!

Got my 50g15 in today... its amazing... I have the set on 45 contrast/ 45 brightness for the break in period of the first few weeks... and it still looks amazing.

Only thing that i dislike so far -- price dropped $100 since i ordered it last week on Amazon.com, selling for an amazing price right now. But thats all im saying -- no price talk!

Many places will match a lower price within x days of purchase.
My2c.

ON Panasonic's website in the specifications for the two televisions(42g10 vs 42g15) it shows the g10 has sub pixel controller and the g15 without it..... all of the higher end Panasonic sets have it as well as the larger units in the g15 series the 46 and the 50.......... is this a typo ? is it meaningful? Very curious since my 42g15 arrives Monday

ON Panasonic's website in the specifications for the two televisions(42g10 vs 42g15) it shows the g10 has sub pixel controller and the g15 without it..... all of the higher end Panasonic sets have it as well as the larger units in the g15 series the 46 and the 50.......... is this a typo ? is it meaningful? Very curious since my 42g15 arrives Monday
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I would take the specifications listed on the panasonic website with a grain of salt. the g15 and g10 series are identical except for cosmetic differences.

Many places will match a lower price within x days of purchase.

Good advise. After that period your better off to not even check the prices. LCD/Plasma technology will always get cheaper as time goes on.

Just got a refund from the Price Guarantee from 6ave. I thought the price we got it for was a steal... but now its a 10% better steal! Heh.

I think about to do the same thing teh_kyle! Id suggest anyone that bought it during September from 6ave to do the same. If they actually do honor it I can put it towards the ps3 fund :D

hah! same fund im going for.. trying to convince the girlfriend to go halvsies with me.. we *need* a blu ray player!

Yeah thats what I'd generally use it for. Also considering speakers like the Klipsch quintet 3 / SL or the Energy Take 5 Classics. Tough decisions to be made :cool:

Time to upgrade a little.

Help me be practical and choose one. I must pull the trigger tomorrow.
The G15 or V10, both in 50 inch.

My common sense tells me the G15 but would like to hear from you all.

I do not have a blue ray player and see MABY an Oppo one day if I ever get into blueray.
I do not rent videos often.
I have an older Hitachi 42HDT52a 1080i 42" plasma that will move to the bedroom.
I have a great but dated 2002 Onkyo component DVD player, DV-SP800 (http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-players/onkyo-dv-sp800/4505-6473_7-20702532.html).

I watch Comcast HD and older movies on the TMC channel. Football and Indy & NASCAR.

I will be replacing a 2003 Onkyo TX-SR800 receiver with an Onkyo TX-NR807 AV receiver very soon.

The V10 averages $2k. I have a price offer from a dealer for $1096.00 on a new G15.

My brain tells me the G15 is better suited to my application.

The before pic with speaker covers off. The VHS is gone. It's a 7.1 setup.

http://alcphoto.net/audio/MyHT.jpg

G15.

g10/g15 no question. in a few years you could probably buy a better tv than the V10 for just the amount of money you saved between the two.

Looks go to the V10, but I think the only real difference picture wise is that the V10 can properly run 24p whereas the G10/15 flickers. I'm no brain on this, but that seems to be the main concern with some folks. Maybe an extra HDMI input or something, just a guess. Is it worth the extra 700-1000 you might end up forking out over a G10/15?? I'd say probably not. Just take the G, bank the savings, and wait for OLED to blow your mind in a few years, lol. Just my humble opinion :)

Just got the G15 a few days ago and am extremely pleased!!

Thanks Guys,

Looks like I was on the right track.

Got a call from hhgregg saying the G15 50" I was to get went to another store and the buyers will only purchase V10 54" units. This lets me off my verbal commitment to buy one today. Funny, it's like a ton of bricks have been lifted off my mind.

Just curious about seasonal pricing patterns. I know all electronics prices fall but nearing the holidays what is the norm between now and after Xmas?

Will the beginning of 2010 be the best bet?

Check Amazon.com The 50g15 is going for an amazing price right now. Plus: Free Shipping, No Tax. Im betting that the HHGregg price is a lot higher than what Amazon is offering.

Keep in mind that Amazon only sells the G10 directly. Those are third party sellers selling the G15 via amazon.

just thought i'd point that out as not all those third party sellers are big companies or even authorized Panasonic dealers. Check them out on a case by case basis.

Many of the reputable third party sellers have their own websites and will sell at the same price there as well.

Check Amazon.com The 50g15 is going for an amazing price right now. Plus: Free Shipping, No Tax. Im betting that the HHGregg price is a lot higher than what Amazon is offering.

It's very close before taxes. Enough to go mail order eh?

Depending on where you live, sales tax can be quite high, here where i am in NC, its now 8.5% (Crazy, i know) so a $1200 tv would be $1302 after tax. =/

I got my 50g15 from 6ave on amazon.com, and after i bought it, the price went down $100, called 6ave, they refunded me the diff no prob.

I would have no prob ordering again from them. The only question you have to ask yourself: Is this the TV i absolutely want? Cos returning a TV to a online place is kind of a pain, especially one of this size.

So lets say I purchase the Energy Take 5 Classics, and a Premier Acoustic PA-120 sub. What would you guys recommend to run these? I read that there is an Onkyo receiver issue with the G15, and I don't recall if it has been patched. Denon, Pioneer, Onkyo (preferably below $400)?

Hello guys have you relised that G10 and G15 have poor moving processor?
Try titles at the end of the movie (cast, director, etc... i do not know how to call it).

Moves are not smooth it is kind of jumping....

Owners on this thread, can you confirm this guys's (1 post so far but oh well...) observations? I am reading up as much as I can on the G15 but since the electronics are the same for the G10/G15, I am interested to see what you guy think of the comment above.

While I was at my local BB, they had the G10 up for display and when it got to the movie credits at the end, the panning/scrolling was not smooth. It looked jumpy. I was standing about 5 feet away from the screen.

Thanks for the clarification fellas!

Owners on this thread, can you confirm this guys's (1 post so far but oh well...) observations? I am reading up as much as I can on the G15 but since the electronics are the same for the G10/G15, I am interested to see what you guy think of the comment above.

While I was at my local BB, they had the G10 up for display and when it got to the movie credits at the end, the panning/scrolling was not smooth. It looked jumpy. I was standing about 5 feet away from the screen. Thanks for the clarification fellas!The G10/G15 doesn't have a "poor moving processor" like that guy said, but the store was probably displaying a Blu-Ray movie on it. The "jumpy credits" have been discussed before in the G10 and S1 threads and has something to do with the whole 24p thing which admittedly i'm not up to speed on (since i never watch Blu-Ray discs).

Do you have the direct link to that guy's post? There may be other discussion in that thread in response to his post.

My guess is its a bad Blu-Ray that was playing and it was stuttering.

My questions as a G15 owner is...what is up with FOX NFL FOOTBALL? This season has been terrible broadcast quality. Watching the Bears/Lions game today I thought something was wrong with my TV, but after watching CBS overtime of the Bengals/Browns and the NBC Late game, it is definitely FOX's crappy HD. Even the highlights on the highlights of the games on the other channels show them equally bad. Anyone else notice? Or is this just a drawback of 720P on a better set where 1080 seems to make more of a difference?

I am wondering about the whole firmware upgrade issue.

My P42G15 (purchased from 6ave.com a couple weeks ago) has a June '09 build date. I have a 1080p-upscaling DVD player (a Pio DV-400V) and a fairly new Onkyo 607. Connected the DVD player to the Onkyo and the Onkyo to the TV via HDMI last night and switched the signal to 1080p. Switching the TV input to the Onkyo HDMI results in eight seconds of black, and then the picture comes in fine, and hitting the Info button on the TV remote says it's a 1080p signal. I'm thinking I don't need the firmware upgrade, but it'd be nice to have a better handle on what the "About" menu codes in the TV settings refer to.

Then, too: there is no mention of the G15 model line on the Panasonic firmware update site <http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/firmware/Content/Plasma.ASP>, but if the G10 and G15 models are functionally identical, wouldn't the G10 firmware update apply? I'm a little confused about this. Again, I've no idea whether I already have an up-to-date firmware or not.

My P42G15 (purchased from 6ave.com a couple weeks ago) has a June '09 build date. if your set is connected to the internet, then go to:

Menu screen....go to Network Setting.....then down to Software Update on the second page and select it.

It should let you update to 1.19 firmware version (if your set doesn't already have it)

Panasonic is testing a 1.25 firmware for the Onkyo HDMI handshake issue that should be released publicly at some point. (a few people have said within the next week). If you call them up they'll probably mail you an SD card with the update if you really need it right away.

I would expect that we'll be able to get the update via the network connection pretty soon though.

Then, too: there is no mention of the G15 model line on the Panasonic firmware update site <http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/firmware/Content/Plasma.ASP>, but if the G10 and G15 models are functionally identical, wouldn't the G10 firmware update apply? I'm a little confused about this. Again, I've no idea whether I already have an up-to-date firmware or not.I would not necessarily assume anything about the G10 and G15 firmwares being compatible. Unless panasonic posts something clearly showing that the firmwares are interchangeable.

Panasonic hasn't been using that tech training website for the G10/G15/V10 models very much. I guess they assume most of us will use the network connection and update that way.

if your set is connected to the internet, then go to:

Menu screen....go to Network Setting.....then down to Software Update on the second page and select it.

It should let you update to 1.19 firmware version (if your set doesn't already have it)

Panasonic is testing a 1.25 firmware for the Onkyo HDMI handshake issue that should be released publicly at some point. (a few people have said within the next week). If you call them up they'll probably mail you an SD card with the update if you really need it right away.

I would expect that we'll be able to get the update via the network connection pretty soon though.

I would not necessarily assume anything about the G10 and G15 firmwares being compatible. Unless panasonic posts something clearly showing that the firmwares are interchangeable.

Panasonic hasn't been using that tech training website for the G10/G15/V10 models very much. I guess they assume most of us will use the network connection and update that way.

I'm suddenly very glad I went to all the trouble to figure out how to use an Airport Express to extend a Netgear WRT54G network. Seems I do have firmware v1.19, and thanks to your post I also have peace of mind.

Now - back to my 120-slide SD-card break-in protocol. (Brightness 50, check; contrast 50, check. Necessary? No? Ah well. -I think I've watched about twelve hours of TV - dark grey letterboxes on the SD content, the lightest my wife can stand - and about four of the slide show so far.) Still not sure whether it's safe to run the thing overnight, while I sleep. Won't run it when I'm out of the house. Could take weeks to get to a hundred hours, at that rate. Maybe it's not needed anymore. I gather opinions on the subject run all over the place.

The G10/G15 doesn't have a "poor moving processor" like that guy said, but the store was probably displaying a Blu-Ray movie on it. The "jumpy credits" have been discussed before in the G10 and S1 threads and has something to do with the whole 24p thing which admittedly i'm not up to speed on (since i never watch Blu-Ray discs).

Do you have the direct link to that guy's post? There may be other discussion in that thread in response to his post.

Thanks Randy. That is probably it. It was a bluray disc playing.

That guy's post was in this thread on the 2nd page. I read this thread from start to page 8 and nobody replied to his post.

I'll look out for this in other threads on AVS. But, thanks again.

My questions as a G15 owner is...what is up with FOX NFL FOOTBALL? This season has been terrible broadcast quality. Watching the Bears/Lions game today I thought something was wrong with my TV, but after watching CBS overtime of the Bengals/Browns and the NBC Late game, it is definitely FOX's crappy HD. Even the highlights on the highlights of the games on the other channels show them equally bad. Anyone else notice? Or is this just a drawback of 720P on a better set where 1080 seems to make more of a difference?
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I was watching the Chargers/Steelers game last night on my G15 via dish network. The HD picture was very nice on my end. I have heard a lot of people complaining about comcast HD feed, but my Dish is really good. My set is a 1080p though, but I would think that a 720p set would be pretty nice as well.

I'll be watching directtv tonight and possibly a bluray.....

After months of reading about plasmas and thinking I needed a Pioneer 500M, sight unseen, I walked into Best Buy and saw the Panny G10 and thought the picture was actually fine. I didn't care for the silver on the bottom though, so I just kept looking. Who would have thought they'd give us nitpickers the G15 :) Just ordered mine for a pretty fair price and I can't wait!!! Hopefully it doesn't show up with a muddy boot print on the screen. The way I see it, this should be a marvelous first HDTV coming from an old Panny CRT which has served me well for many years.
Is it true that the G15 does not have the silver color at the bottom? This is a nitpick for me, too, and for my wife. G15 is all black?
Stu

Is it true that the G15 does not have the silver color at the bottom? This is a nitpick for me, too, and for my wife. G15 is all black?
Stu

Yeah it does..but somewhat smaller.

its a *lot* smaller... doesnt go across the whole bezel and is only a sliver. looks really good imo.

Is it true that the G15 does not have the silver color at the bottom? This is a nitpick for me, too, and for my wife. G15 is all black?If you'd read this thread you would have seen the pictures posted:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2j6ahcy.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/714v14.jpg

http://www.vengefulsoda.com/plasma/02.jpg

I just got my hands on this.... gotta see what my panny 50G15 can do.... :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/canaris/IMG_1587Large.jpg

Ok, so had the G15 for a while. When watching movies on PS3 in THX setting it is really dark. I have tweeked the settings to increase brightness a bit and the black level is at low.

Movies appear to look better in GAME setting, not THX.

What is up with this?

From the reviews I've read that seems to be one of the complaints about THX mode.

its a *lot* smaller... doesnt go across the whole bezel and is only a sliver. looks really good imo. yeah it's really really thin.

I usually don't even notice the strip during normal viewing as it's really that small. It's like a tiny accent at best. (as observed by the pics Randy posted)

Looks like it stands out a lot more on the G10 as it's the bottom of the TV. Most of the places where i saw the G10 at stores were pretty dark so I didn't even notice that silver strip there either.

i have purchased the G1542 about a month ago. I have been pleased so far. I've been playing with the settings, and fine tuning here and there. so far so good. i have d. n for my sat. provider and the hd feeds are awesome. havent watched anything on 1080p yet,but i'm sure i will at some point. thanks to those who have posted their settings.

how much are these running for now? have they dipped below the 900 mark yet?

I just got my hands on this.... gotta see what my panny 50G15 can do.... :D

Enterainment? ;)

Ok, so had the G15 for a while. When watching movies on PS3 in THX setting it is really dark. I have tweeked the settings to increase brightness a bit and the black level is at low. Movies appear to look better in GAME setting, not THX. What is up with this?
THX mode is supposed to mimick the movie theater experience and should only be used in a very dark room.

Some people think the dark THX mode is perfect for watching their movies, while several others here (like myself) think it's too dark for watching movies so we use the Custom mode instead. Game mode looks virtually identical to Custom mode too. Sounds like you're in the "THX is too dark" camp so just use a different mode.

As much as I really wish I wasn't in this pigeon hole looks like I am.

When watching a movie, the dark scenes in THX mode are just too dark. I get so much more out of it in the Custom mode with some of the similar settings advised from some of the fine members here.


Example: In Star Wars II (THX film), the scenes where Anakin and Padme are going to rescue Obi Wan and later in the film where Yoda is fighting the scenes are entirely too dark. But when you go to a light portion of the film such as the desert fight scenes it is just fine.


I watch in an entirely dark room too. It just appears that so much detail and color is lost in THX that is recovered/processed in the Custom. Which doesn't makes sense in my mind since they should just love eachother (the corresponding THX material/TV setting).


I have read some of the settings to set the input to Game in custom and this increases the photoprocessing rate somehow, can anyone elaborate on that? Is there a dip in quality in other areas, and if not, why not have all the inputs at this higher rate?

That's what i was afraid of. I wonder if maybe the 46" and 50" versions will also have a G10 bezel as well. Does your 42G15 at least have the thinner 2.2" thick upper rear cabinet like the V10 (see pic below) or is it consistently 4" thick all the way to the top like on the G10 and S1?

Early on, Panasonic's Ideas For Life website specifically stated that the new G15 series will have a Slim 2" panel with premium "one sheet of glass design". Then CNet and the HD Guru both said the G15 would have the thinner 2" thick panel so all that, along with Panasonic using the picture of the V10 on the G15 spec sheet and web page made me think that it would indeed have the "one-sheet-of-glass design" like the V10.

And ever since CES, Panasonic has been stating that the G15 has a "slim design" and "slim style" and all the pictures they show of the G15 are the exact same as the V10 picture, but the height x width dimensions for the 50G15 are exactly the same as on the 50G10. The 50V10 on the other hand is a little taller and about an inch wider. Since the specs for the G15 don't show the 3.3" and 2.2" thickness spec for the 50G15 like they do on the 50V10 then i'm starting to think that by "Slim Design" and "Slim Style", Panasonic is actually talking about how the plastic bezels are thinner (like on the S1 and G10) than last year's models and doesn't actually mean it has the 2" thick upper rear cabinet with One-Sheet-of-Glass like the V10 does. I'm starting to picture it as a G10 but without the silver strip along the bottom. I really really like the infinity glass front facia of the V10 and PZ850U models but i'm not a fan of the cheap look of the shiny plastic G10 and S1 bezels.

>>> Link to Comparison Chart of 50G10, 50V10, and 50G15 <<< (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelComparisonResults?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&catGroupId=103502&surfCategory=All%20VIERA%26%23174%3B%20Flat-Panel%20HDTVs&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702&items=330261|352746|349745|)

Does the upper rear cabinet on your 42G15 look like this picture of the thinner 2" thick area on the upper rear cabinet of the V10/V1 on the right?:

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090203/pana2_11.jpg
Just "miked" my new 42G15: 3.691" (Base, widest part)

I know pricing is not to be talked about here, but I'm waiting for a 42" to drop below $900 and you people know better than I do the best places to shop online.

Can anyone recommend an online distributor? All I know of is Amazon...

That is going to be an iffy..... the American dollar has been losing strength steadily in the last couple of months and these sets are made in Mexico..

I got my 50" g15 a couple of days ago. I've been running full screen content and slides(when I'm not watching it) for the past couple of days only when I'm home and awake (bout 7 hours). I'm just too nervous that it's going to freeze or something to do it when I can't be around to baby it.

So far I am very happy with the set. IR had me worried before I got it but I haven't even seen a hint of it. My wife watched an hour long program on TLC and they had this big logo with red flowers and white text the entire time. Saw no IR at all from that. Also played some nhl10 for about an hour and got rid of the static scoreboard. It still had a little energy bar that pops up for a couple of minutes at a time. No IR from that and didn't notice any phosphor trails or anything. Watched some planet earth and a bit of dark knight on full screen and they looked amazing!

That being said. I'm still gonna baby it and run the slides when I'm not watching for the first ~100 hours just to get it through the break in period.

P.S: I am using the pixel orbiter and have my contrast down to about 45 on all settings except vivid for the slides.