View Full Version : Please Help Wd-62628 1080i WTF???


Blowzo
06-16-09, 05:35 PM
I purchased this TV (WD-62628) a few years back. I made sure to ask the salesman for a 1080P DLp, and this is what he sold me. I waited a while for the Blueray players to go down in price, and finally picked one up. I hooked it up with HDMI to a brand new Yamaha Receiver, and then HDMI to the TV.

The picture is showing as 1080i. I called Mitsu, and checked forums, and even amazon reviews on the TV. Appreently the TV is 1080i, and upconverts to 1080P. The only way you can get 1080P is to use the iEEE connection.

So here her my questions please.

Is this information correct
Is there a ieee to HDMI connector out there that would hook from the TV to the receiver, and allow me to get 1080P
is there any other device that may work


Thank you in advance :)

walford
06-16-09, 05:55 PM
You have a 1080p TV only recently have DVI/HDMI receiver chips on 1080p HDTVs start accepting 1080p as an incoming resolution since 1080p/60 is not an ATSC resolution and there were no sources yet of 1080p/24. The video processor in your TV is not upconverting it is de-interlacing the even numbered line fileld and the odd numbered line field in the 1080i content back together again so they can be displayed on your DLP's 1080p display.
You are not loosing any resolution by sending 1080i instead 0f 1080p to the TV. You get better high speed motion content it you could send 1080p.

N1LSS
06-16-09, 06:16 PM
I purchased this TV (WD-62628) a few years back. I made sure to ask the salesman for a 1080P DLp, and this is what he sold me. I waited a while for the Blueray players to go down in price, and finally picked one up. I hooked it up with HDMI to a brand new Yamaha Receiver, and then HDMI to the TV.

The picture is showing as 1080i. I called Mitsu, and checked forums, and even amazon reviews on the TV. Appreently the TV is 1080i, and upconverts to 1080P. The only way you can get 1080P is to use the iEEE connection.

So here her my questions please.

Is this information correct
Is there a ieee to HDMI connector out there that would hook from the TV to the receiver, and allow me to get 1080P
is there any other device that may work


Thank you in advance http://www.entertainment-place.info/smile/img/2464/*************************

I believe it's correct, but i don't think you'll really notice much of a difference.

Blowzo
06-16-09, 07:40 PM
I want to thank the person that responded, but you really didn't post a solution or answer to my questions. Mitsu says the signal is being upconverted, and you are saying it's not... It's being interlaced by the flux compassitor. Either way the issue, and the inital questions still remain.

Is there a connector that will connect IEEE to hdmi, or any other solutions to my issue?

Why does the same bluray player look like 1,000 virgins on my friends tv running 1080p, and mine look like a very small upgrade from a 720upgrading DVD player?

Blowzo
06-16-09, 07:51 PM
I want to thank the person that responded, but you really didn't post a solution or answer to my questions. Mitsu says the signal is being upconverted, and you are saying it's not... It's being interlaced by the flux compassitor. Either way the issue, and the inital questions still remain.

Is there a connector that will connect IEEE to hdmi, or any other solutions to my issue?

Why does the same bluray player look like 1,000 virgins on my friends tv running 1080p, and mine look like a very small upgrade from a 720upgrading DVD player?

walford
06-16-09, 08:07 PM
There is not a clear definition of upconverting most users myself included interpret it to mean the same as upscaling which increasein the resoluiton of the content by inventing the additional pixels requeried such as upscaling/up-converting 480i or 480p to 720p or 1080i or 1080p ,or upconverting of 720p to 1080i or 1080p.
When deinterlacing 1080i content to 1080p no invention of additional content occurs it is just converted.
If you are using an upscaling DVD player that only upgrades to 720p then I would expect them to look very poor since your TV is then upscaling the 720p(containing invented content) to 1080p
I know of no solutions to the questions you asked.
I have never heard of a "flux compassitor".
You can learn more about interlacing/de-interlacing and scaling at the following link:

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html

You need to provide more detail about your friends 1080p system and player and about your player and if you are comparing them playing the same BR DVD.

georule
06-16-09, 08:18 PM
yes, no, no.

There, you didn't like it, but that's the consensus. There might be some goofball stuff you might manage re #3 (like turning component into Firewire) but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe it will end up looking better on that TV than what you have right now.

I would hazard the additional guess that your buddy's 1080p is either not a DLP (no wobulation), much newer than 2005 (better hardware and software processing tricks), or both. Your 2005 is a year newer than our 2004 Mits (720p) DLP, but our new 2009 Mits 1080p DLP just slaughters it --and the difference in native input resolution is only a small part of the story there. I can say that with complete confidence, because most of what we watch on it is actually 1080i, which shouldn't be (while trying to avoid starting any religious arguements here) much different than 720p --yet the 2009 just kills the 2004.

Blowzo
06-16-09, 09:50 PM
yes, no, no.

There, you didn't like it, but that's the consensus. There might be some goofball stuff you might manage re #3 (like turning component into Firewire) but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe it will end up looking better on that TV than what you have right now.

I would hazard the additional guess that your buddy's 1080p is either not a DLP (no wobulation), much newer than 2005 (better hardware and software processing tricks), or both. Your 2005 is a year newer than our 2004 Mits (720p) DLP, but our new 2009 Mits 1080p DLP just slaughters it --and the difference in native input resolution is only a small part of the story there. I can say that with complete confidence, because most of what we watch on it is actually 1080i, which shouldn't be (while trying to avoid starting any religious arguements here) much different than 720p --yet the 2009 just kills the 2004.


thank you



I have never heard of a "flux compassitor".

are you serious? No one will ever take you seriously if you don't know this. Watch the movie Back to the Future, its a classic

Crab56
10-25-09, 12:54 PM
I have one of these Mitsubishi's also....with a big, bright 1080P logo for which I shelled out a lot more money for at the time. I got a Blu-Ray player last night, hooked it up only to have the settings tell me 1080P was not supported ! Have spent this morning reading the many posts and responses. So I guess technically Mits is correct in that it will accept 1080P input thru Firewire.....just not thru HDMI as probably everyone that purchased this TV thought it would do. Anyone else feeling screwed by Mitsubishi ?

Are there any Blu-ray players that connect with firewire ?

walford
10-25-09, 01:25 PM
Even this year some manufacturters of Full HD 1080p HDTVs are still not using HDMI receiver chips that can receive 1080p since previously the standard HDMI receiver chips only received 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i since there was no 1080p content available at the time these chips were designed. Your TV does de-interlace the received 1080i content to 1080p using its onboard computer before it displays it.