Activision head honcho Bobby Kotick has been doing some saber rattling over at the giant publisher, saying that they may need to "stop supporting Sony" come 2010 or 2011. The folks at Playstation, though, don't seem phased.

"PlayStation has tremendous momentum coming out of E3, and we are seeing positive growth with more than 350 titles slated to hit across all our platforms, including many anticipated games from our publishing partners," said Playstation spokesman Patrick Seybold. "We enjoy healthy business relationships with and greatly value our publishing partners and are working closely with them to deliver the best entertainment experience."

Indeed Sony announced an impressive line-up of first and third-party PS3 and PSP titles at their annual retailer meet-up Destination Playstation and then spent a bulk of their E3 press conference whipping through triple-A title after triple-A title.

As interesting as it is to read about some publishing exec making vague threats, I'd be much more interested to learn what really prompted this. Perhaps we should be reading more into Kotick's comments in the same article about the royalties that Activision is having to pay out to Sony.

Linky (http://kotaku.com/5296976/sony-responds-to-activisions-threats-to-ditch-playstation)

So if they don't give a sh*t cool. I am a dual owner which doesn't affect me. I would be interested to see what happens because as much as they do have exclusives only one since launch has given them benefit to pushing consoles and the third party games sell more than their exclusives do. I think Activision has some things they could do now to increase potential sales like offer the timed exclusive content to the PS3 owners rather than the 360 owners to persuade single and dual owners to purchase their version.

Activision head honcho Bobby Kotick has been doing some saber rattling over at the giant publisher, saying that they may need to "stop supporting Sony" come 2010 or 2011. The folks at Playstation, though, don't seem phased.

"PlayStation has tremendous momentum coming out of E3, and we are seeing positive growth with more than 350 titles slated to hit across all our platforms, including many anticipated games from our publishing partners," said Playstation spokesman Patrick Seybold. "We enjoy healthy business relationships with and greatly value our publishing partners and are working closely with them to deliver the best entertainment experience."

Indeed Sony announced an impressive line-up of first and third-party PS3 and PSP titles at their annual retailer meet-up Destination Playstation and then spent a bulk of their E3 press conference whipping through triple-A title after triple-A title.

As interesting as it is to read about some publishing exec making vague threats, I'd be much more interested to learn what really prompted this. Perhaps we should be reading more into Kotick's comments in the same article about the royalties that Activision is having to pay out to Sony.

Translation: "Say what you will, Mr. Kotick. You're not scaring us. If you want to discuss fee's, we'll handle this in private, away from the spotlight, where real business is held. Ultimately, you know you want a piece of what we have and you're not fooling anyone"

At least Sony shows some class in their response.

Translation: "Say what you will, Mr. Kotick. You're not scaring us. If you want to discuss fee's, we'll handle this in private, away from the spotlight, where real business is held. Ultimately, you know you want a piece of what we have and you're not fooling anyone"

At least Sony shows some class in their response.

which is actually out of charecter for them. I expected a jab against MS and Nintendo.

Activision is evil and they must be stopped. I've actually lost friends over WoW.

Well he sure told them! :|

which is actually out of charecter for them. I expected a jab against MS and Nintendo.

No line item chart detailing what a great value the PS3 is, or constant mentioning of the "Playstation family." I hope they do better next time.

So if they don't give a sh*t cool. I am a dual owner which doesn't affect me. I would be interested to see what happens because as much as they do have exclusives only one since launch has given them benefit to pushing consoles and the third party games sell more than their exclusives do. I think Activision has some things they could do now to increase potential sales like offer the timed exclusive content to the PS3 owners rather than the 360 owners to persuade single and dual owners to purchase their version.

Actually Sony's exclusives sell quite well. MSG4, R:FOM, Motorstorm, GT5:P, Uncharted: DF, LBP, Killzone2, Resistance2, R&C:ToD, Heavenly Sword are all in Sony's top 25 sellers according to VGChartz giving them 10 exclusives in their top 25, 9 of which are Sony published.

360 has only 6 exclusives in their top 25, 5 of which are MS published.

No line item chart detailing what a great value the PS3 is, or constant mentioning of the "Playstation family." I hope they do better next time.

back I say, back, back to the 360 forum with you!

/waves broom in air

back I say, back, back to the 360 forum with you!

/waves broom in air

Rawr! Defend the Sony Pr!

I think calling it a response is being generous. It's more like a non-sequitur.

Lol, this is the same jackass that was whining, two weeks ago, that there was not a hardware price drop mentioned from any of the three companies at E3.

http://kotaku.com/5281271/activision-ceo-unhappy-no-console-price-chop-announced

Hey Bobby, if you're so concerned with software sales in this economy, how about you take some of your own advice and lower the MSRPs on some of your less than stellar titles. And some of the people who responded seem to agree.

Guitar Hero is lagging behind Rock Band...sell it for $45
Prototype is not as polished as InFamous...sell it for $45
Play it both ways, Bobby.

Obviously this is going to be their public statement. Im curious what the conversations are like out of the public eye.

Obviously this is going to be their public statement. Im curious what the conversations are like out of the public eye.

Right, it's a bluff to try to get them to drop the price sooner rather than later. I understand his motivation, but that doesn't help his public image.

I'll go ahead and say that I bought Cod4:MW for the 360, mainly because it was one of the few titles where I actually wanted the xbox live experience. However, this is their premiere franchise and it sold about 4.5 million copies on the PS3, along with 7.5 on the 360. Are they going to alienate that part of their customer base? I don't think so.

That's not really a response.

I would not mind one iota if Activision had published exactly zero titles for the PS3. It would have saved me $60.

A response like this is about all you can expect. It's not as if Sony is going to say publicly they don't give a rip if Activision leaves. Nor are they going to kiss Activision's boots.

Personally, I don't like shooters or guitar hero so I wouldn't mind if Activision stopped milking those genres to death on hte ps3. Although, he'd probably never do that.

It is ironic that Kotick complains about high prices when he's trying to charge $100 for a toy guitar.

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/%5CAUTOIMAGES%5CH06728lg.jpg

You can pre-order Activision's new DJ Hero for $120, a game that costs almost 1/3rd the price of a PS3.

If he had things his way, Sony would lose tens of billions by selling their consoles for $100 so that Activision could up their peripheral games to $150.

So if they don't give a sh*t cool. I am a dual owner which doesn't affect me. I would be interested to see what happens because as much as they do have exclusives only one since launch has given them benefit to pushing consoles and the third party games sell more than their exclusives do. I think Activision has some things they could do now to increase potential sales like offer the timed exclusive content to the PS3 owners rather than the 360 owners to persuade single and dual owners to purchase their version.

Making a game a timed exclusive for a system it sells almost half as much for just to maybe move a few more units is a horrible idea...

Debate gaming dudes...awesome.

Lol, this is the same jackass that was whining, two weeks ago, that there was not a hardware price drop mentioned from any of the three companies at E3.

http://kotaku.com/5281271/activision-ceo-unhappy-no-console-price-chop-announced

Hey Bobby, if you're so concerned with software sales in this economy, how about you take some of your own advice and lower the MSRPs on some of your less than stellar titles. And some of the people who responded seem to agree.

Guitar Hero is lagging behind Rock Band...sell it for $45
Prototype is not as polished as InFamous...sell it for $45
Play it both ways, Bobby.

How about they lower all PS3 game prices to 40.00. Just throwing numbers out but Devs/programmers will have to learn to live with 80k, oh the humanity!!:rolleyes: double what 85% of the people in the US make as opposed to the 100k+ they are used to making. It isn't just about devs though, board members and corp execs like the ass hat bringing up this BS need to be prepared to live on less than millions per year. In these times, most now are worried if they will have 3 meals a day or be able to buy a car next year. On the other side, the overpaid and under worked who I mentioned above have to worry if they can buy the second Porsche next year.

How about they lower all PS3 game prices to 40.00. Just throwing numbers out but Devs/programmers will have to learn to live with 80k, oh the humanity!!:rolleyes: double what 85% of the people in the US make as opposed to the 100k+ they are used to making. It isn't just about devs though, board members and corp execs like the ass hat bringing up this BS need to be prepared to live on less than millions per year. In these times, most now are worried if they will have 3 meals a day or be able to buy a car next year. On the other side, the overpaid and under worked who I mentioned above have to worry if they can buy the second Porsche next year.


:rolleyes:, indeed.

He's just looking out for what's best for Activision. If it was up to him, all game consoles would be free. He doesn't care about MS, Sony or Nintendo. If all consoles were free, he'd be able to sell more games.

Wasn't he also complaining awhile back that the Wii and 360 also should have price cuts to drive the market?

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How about they lower all PS3 game prices to 40.00. Just throwing numbers out but Devs/programmers will have to learn to live with 80k, oh the humanity!!:rolleyes: double what 85% of the people in the US make as opposed to the 100k+ they are used to making. It isn't just about devs though, board members and corp execs like the ass hat bringing up this BS need to be prepared to live on less than millions per year. In these times, most now are worried if they will have 3 meals a day or be able to buy a car next year. On the other side, the overpaid and under worked who I mentioned above have to worry if they can buy the second Porsche next year.

Folks working in the game industry, the rank and file, already make less money than they would cranking out, say, antivirus or spreadsheet software. And this is while working in expensive places like the SF Bay Area, LA, or Boston. Eighty thousand dollars in the Bay Area is not a lot of money.

Kotick needs to show growth. When the music game fad crashes (and he knows it will crash) that will be very difficult without way more consoles out there. Right now about 100M consoles are in people's homes worldwide. Last generation there were about 180M but games are more expensive to make. So he's just trying to get people to drop the price so more people can own them and buy more of Activision's ****** non-music games.

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He posted the exact same thing 14 times in various forums. Think he has an agenda?

He posted the exact same thing 14 times in various forums. Think he has an agenda?

Is he selling WWII War Bond lighters?

Actually Sony's exclusives sell quite well. MSG4, R:FOM, Motorstorm, GT5:P, Uncharted: DF, LBP, Killzone2, Resistance2, R&C:ToD, Heavenly Sword are all in Sony's top 25 sellers according to VGChartz giving them 10 exclusives in their top 25, 9 of which are Sony published.

360 has only 6 exclusives in their top 25, 5 of which are MS published.

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?

Secret BBC game is a re-boot of the Underdog franchise?

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?
Yes, there haven't been any multiplatform games released for the PS3. Certainly no decent ones. :rolleyes:

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

And once again the fearless mods here have let another trolling thread continue in the PS forums. Funny how they never let a trolling thread go in the xboi's forum.

This is just a scare tactic from Activison, I dont think it holds any merit. I'll be playing COD MC2 come this fall on my ps3....

I don't know why you guys take such offense to mindless posts like that. I know, you know, and 98% of regular posters here know that his post is irrelevant, juvenile and for lack of a better word... stupid. [@totalownership]

I bet if Sony took the first step and booted Activision they would beg to come back. It is a lose situation for both parties, probably more for Activision.

And once again the fearless mods here have let another trolling thread continue in the PS forums. Funny how they never let a trolling thread go in the xboi's forum.

Different Mods.

Anyone know if Mods get paid, or is it a free time sort of thing? We really need a full time Moderator in here, not one that stops by twice a week.

I don't know why you guys take such offense to mindless posts like that. I know, you know, and 98% of regular posters here know that his post is irrelevant, juvenile and for lack of a better word... stupid. [@totalownership]


True, but it happens in every single thread. The rules of the forum state that if you don't have a PS3, or plan on trolling for another console, GTFO.

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?

I have only once seen a logical statement work in this type of situation, but I'll try anyway.

Sony's exclusives are competing against the same games that MS exclusives are. So much so that 4 of the 5 non exclusive games in Sonys top 10 are in Xboxs top 10. Anyway, say high to masterchef for me, tell him I like my franchises overcooked and dry.

Wait, what is the flying dog game? That sounds like it might be fun.

Wait, what is the flying dog game? That sounds like it might be fun.

Agreed.

http://www.megadriver.org/img/gaming/mcdcp/scans/wonderdog_cvr.jpg

Yes, there haven't been any multiplatform games released for the PS3. Certainly no decent ones. :rolleyes:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

I don't know why you guys take such offense to mindless posts like that. I know, you know, and 98% of regular posters here know that his post is irrelevant, juvenile and for lack of a better word... stupid. [@totalownership]

I bet if Sony took the first step and booted Activision they would beg to come back. It is a lose situation for both parties, probably more for Activision.

I have only once seen a logical statement work in this type of situation, but I'll try anyway.

Sony's exclusives are competing against the same games that MS exclusives are. So much so that 4 of the 5 non exclusive games in Sonys top 10 are in Xboxs top 10.

And see these replies are the reason why we're at the state we are at now. I'm not married to ANY console. If a game has merit I'll get it. If it has more merit on one system than another I'll get it on that system. Some people are wedded to their PS3s and the system can do no wrong, same on the 360 side. Right now any multi-platform/multi-player games get the nod on the 360 side because Live is way more fleshed out than PSN. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. When and if the PS3 ever surpasses that then guess what, I'll be the first one here saying so.

Anyway, say high to masterchef for me, tell him I like my franchises overcooked and dry.
Will do, he's over at Snakes house though following the MGS:Portable Ops recipe so it should be nicely overcooked and dry like you want.

Oh and FYI, I hated Halo 3 also.

And see these replies are the reason why we're at the state we are at now. I'm not married to ANY console. If a game has merit I'll get it. If it has more merit on one system than another I'll get it on that system. Some people are wedded to their PS3s and the system can do no wrong, same on the 360 side. Right now any multi-platform/multi-player games get the nod on the 360 side because Live is way more fleshed out than PSN. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. When and if the PS3 ever surpasses that then guess what, I'll be the first one here saying so.

I think what people are trying to say is the way you stated you point was pretty inflamitory. Though i disagree w/ the personal attacks, but uh... welcome to the intrawebz! By saying, "obviously people will buy ps3 exclusives since multi-plats are better on xbox because their online is better", you may not be marrying your xbox, but you could be ring shopping.

I mean really... do you think that the majority of ps3 owners also have an xbox, or what about multi-plats that offer no online option?

[QUOTE=totalownership;16731571]And see these replies are the reason why we're at the state we are at now. I'm not married to ANY console. If a game has merit I'll get it. If it has more merit on one system than another I'll get it on that system. Some people are wedded to their PS3s and the system can do no wrong, same on the 360 side. Right now any multi-platform/multi-player games get the nod on the 360 side because Live is way more fleshed out than PSN. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. When and if the PS3 ever surpasses that then guess what, I'll be the first one here saying so.
QUOTE]


I knew logic wouldn't work, oh well. Since there is nothing worth playing on the Sony side why bother posting(trolling) here, this certainly isn't the best site to get info on MLB The Show is it? I think we all get that you like (but have no wedding plans yet) the 360 best, but only a serious fanboy would still be saying the PS3 has no good games as if it's still summer 07. So read the sign on the door here, it's the PS3 forum, people here generally like the ps3, and take a walk next door and post 360 forum.

And once again the fearless mods here have let another trolling thread continue in the PS forums. Funny how they never let a trolling thread go in the xboi's forum.Mods are Xbots. Confirmed! :D

Seriously, though, threads like this usually peter out on their own, so there's not usually a need for mod intervention.

I think what people are trying to say is the way you stated you point was pretty inflamitory. Though i disagree w/ the personal attacks, but uh... welcome to the intrawebz! By saying, "obviously people will buy ps3 exclusives since multi-plats are better on xbox because their online is better", you may not be marrying your xbox, but you could be ring shopping.

I mean really... do you think that the majority of ps3 owners also have an xbox, or what about multi-plats that offer no online option?

Well the problem with the majority of multi-plats are they are developed on the 360 first and then ported over to the PS3 and usually at the sacrifice of something (fps, graphic detail, various options etc.). When I do go to purchase I've recently look to get PS3 first because I'd like to play that console a little more than I do now but my gamestop guy will stop me and explain some reason why I should go 360 instead. I then come home, research, and find out he's right.

I don't like the size of the PS3 controller but I like the responsiveness of it and the fluid feel of the buttons and sticks over the 360. Except for the mushiness of the trigger buttons.



And see these replies are the reason why we're at the state we are at now. I'm not married to ANY console. If a game has merit I'll get it. If it has more merit on one system than another I'll get it on that system. Some people are wedded to their PS3s and the system can do no wrong, same on the 360 side. Right now any multi-platform/multi-player games get the nod on the 360 side because Live is way more fleshed out than PSN. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. When and if the PS3 ever surpasses that then guess what, I'll be the first one here saying so.
QUOTE]


I knew logic wouldn't work, oh well. Since there is nothing worth playing on the Sony side why bother posting(trolling) here, this certainly isn't the best site to get info on MLB The Show is it? I think we all get that you like (but have no wedding plans yet) the 360 best, but only a serious fanboy would still be saying the PS3 has no good games as if it's still summer 07. So read the sign on the door here, it's the PS3 forum, people here generally like the ps3, and take a walk next door and post 360 forum.

Well when I run across some logic I'll be sure to reply.

In any case please quote where I said specifically "the PS3 has no good games". I'd really like to see where I posted that. I'm waiting....

Again, Mrs. 3 (or do you go by Ms. PS3?), I post so that the PS3 experience will get better. If Sony were to read the many love letters it gets in various forums they'd think nothing is wrong and everyone is la-la land when infact there is much for them to improve to make the PS3 the best gaming experience it can be.

What is this, 2007?

And once again the fearless mods here have let another trolling thread continue in the PS forums. Funny how they never let a trolling thread go in the xboi's forum.


From what I understand and have witnessed in the past is the mods don't hang out here regularly and or police this forum regularly like the Blu Ray or HD programming forums that are very popular. They usually wait for us to report someone if they don't catch it themselves. Kaiser has made mention often that we need to contact him and not wait.

Originally posted by confidenceman
Mods are Xbots.
well, at least one of them is.;)

What is this, 2007?


In some people's minds. Those of us who have owned a PS3 or two or more since day one know how good it is and what it can do. The other consoles are great gaming machines but not perfect either. The PS3 is far and away one of the best Consumer Electronics devices, possibly the best in the history of CE devices. PS3 owners know this, owners of both systems know this and owners of only one system that isn't a PS3 will say nonsense to attack the PS3 as a way to bring it down or make it seem like it isn't any better than other systems. Overall it is far better and as far as gaming it has now more than come into its own. The other systems may have their numbers and leads, but they no longer have "better or more games" and those days are over thankfully for us PS3 owners.

Originally posted by totalownership
When I do go to purchase I've recently look to get PS3 first because I'd like to play that console a little more than I do now but my gamestop guy will stop me and explain some reason why I should go 360 instead.
While I am NOT a gamestop hater, I find this comment kinda funny.;)

In any case please quote where I said specifically "the PS3 has no good games". I'd really like to see where I posted that. I'm waiting....

Hope the wait wasn't too long

Those stats are easy to believe and to explain. When you're not competing against anything it's easy to hold those records. I have 2 of the games mentioned and I have them more or less by default because , I can only speak for myself and everyone I know who has a PS3, nothing else on the PS3 is worth it besides MLB 09. Everything else is stink on a stick. I mean who wants to play as a flying dog over a bleak deserted urban city?

I guess you give the PS3 credit for 1 good game, but seriously:rolleyes:,

I post so that the PS3 experience will get better. This trumps everything so far for post of the year, period. Even better than the near pre-order mumbo jumbo. :)

While I am NOT a gamestop hater, I find this comment kinda funny.;)

Well the guy I know is very knowledgeable about what he does. You know some smart people do work in all trades and jobs. All that being said if he says something, and then I go online, to these very forums in some cases, and verify what he says then you gotta give the guy credit. Trust me I've ran across my fair share of "Yeah man *insert horrible game here* is great man" guys but he's not one of them.


Hope the wait wasn't too long



I guess you give the PS3 credit for 1 good game, but seriously:rolleyes:,

This trumps everything so far for post of the year, period. Even better than the near pre-order mumbo jumbo. :)

The wait for the response wasn't long but the I'm still waiting for the evidence. Basic reading comprehension should lead you to include the mentioned games with the addition of MLB 09 as games I consider "worth" something. So that includes more than the 1 you "give me credit for" and is far off from the "none" you claim I said. See that "logic" you were talking about earlier?

TO, fine you win. The PS3 has no games, the ports are sub par just look at COD4, and the PS3 exclusives are not even worth mentioning, and Game Stop employees are the highest authority when it comes to gaming.


Now, GTFO.

TO, fine you win. The PS3 has no games, the ports are sub par just look at COD4, and the PS3 exclusives are not even worth mentioning, and Game Stop employees are the highest authority when it comes to gaming.


Now, GTFO.
Honestly man I think you need to GTFInSchool if you really think I said all of that. If you feel like wearing out a pair of knee pads everytime you pass something with a PS3 logo then fine so be it but it seems kind of stupid to jump on someone who wants the same system you have a man crush on to be better.

Honestly man I think you need to GTFInSchool if you really think I said all of that. If you feel like wearing out a pair of knee pads everytime you pass something with a PS3 logo then fine so be it but it seems kind of stupid to jump on someone who wants the same system you have a man crush on to be better.

Bacon, turkey perhaps?


If you really believe the PS3 is sub par system with a sub par lineup, I really need to question your gaming as a hobby credentials. There's more to life then FPS\COD, and both systems have excellent games and services.

Then again you hold gamestop in high regard. I'm revoking you cred pass now.

Honestly man I think you need to GTFInSchool if you really think I said all of that. If you feel like wearing out a pair of knee pads everytime you pass something with a PS3 logo then fine so be it but it seems kind of stupid to jump on someone who wants the same system you have a man crush on to be better.

http://www.velvetglove.org/misc/macros/oh_snap.jpg

Bacon, turkey perhaps?


If you really believe the PS3 is sub par system with a sub par lineup, I really need to question your gaming as a hobby credentials. There's more to life then FPS\COD, and both systems have excellent games and services.

Then again you hold gamestop in high regard. I'm revoking you cred pass now.

http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/723/SiskoAnimated.gif

The wait for the response wasn't long but the I'm still waiting for the evidence. Basic reading comprehension should lead you to include the mentioned games with the addition of MLB 09 as games I consider "worth" something. So that includes more than the 1 you "give me credit for" and is far off from the "none" you claim I said. See that "logic" you were talking about earlier?


Let me help you with your english definitions, owning something by default means that you own it not because of merit therefore saying that you own 2 of the mentioned top sellers by default does not qualify as saying they are quality games. So your statement stands as I quoted it. I find it troubling that you can not comprehend that even though you do not like PS3 games there are others who do, whats up with that?

I like how the reflection off his head forms a perfect square in that last frame. (post 55)

Let me help you with your english definitions, owning something by default means that you own it not because of merit therefore saying that you own 2 of the mentioned top sellers by default does not qualify as saying they are quality games. So your statement stands as I quoted it. I find it troubling that you can not comprehend that even though you do not like PS3 games there are others who do, whats up with that?

Ok now let me help you with sentence construction which I'm going to assume is what you meant by "English definitions" (since we're getting technically notice the capital "E" in English since that is the correct way to spell the word since you're referring to a language). I used the word "else" which would pertain to the previous mentioned games I said I own. Therefor basic comprehension would imply that those titles are include in the set. I notice when I refer people to this site (http://www.rif.org/) it usually helps them to continue the debate.

I like how the reflection off his head forms a perfect square in that last frame. (post 55)

I like that too. It reminds me of the square package that fake bacon comes in.

I post so that the PS3 experience will get better.

That about sums it. You are working for a greater goal than anyone else here, I'll step out of the way so you can get back to the good work. I'm pretty sure the green X of sainthood is right aroun the corner for you.

where's vincentnyc when this forum needs him??

where's vincentnyc when this forum needs him??

Wow, where'd you come from all of a sudden?

Wow, where'd you come from all of a sudden?

Obviously someone doesn't read the Rock Band thread :D

The only reason I own vastly more Xbox games than PS3 games is because developers seems to take better care of the Xbox versions in regards to graphics and bugs. The PS3 versions aren't bad but they don't have that extra layer of polish.

1st party games designed to run specifically on the PS3 don't have the same issues as Capcom/Ubi Soft and EA multiplatform titles.

Did someone mention TB?


http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2008/07/10/TM1812_Turkey-Bacon-Double-Cheese-Burgers-with-Fire-Roasted-Tomato-Sauce_lg.jpg

The only reason I own vastly more Xbox games than PS3 games is because developers seems to take better care of the Xbox versions in regards to graphics and bugs. The PS3 versions aren't bad but they don't have that extra layer of polish.

1st party games designed to run specifically on the PS3 don't have the same issues as Capcom/Ubi Soft and EA multiplatform titles.

Maybe I can help you understand why that is... A multiplatform game has a graphics engine made to run on multiple platforms including the PC (360 has similar, & easily understandable architecture to the likes of the PC) Most of our best 3rd party developers are familiar with PC development... While Sony's 1st party games have game engines developed specifically to run on Ps3 specs, and those developers are very familiar with Ps3 tech.

So it's not laziness from the 3rd party developers, or 360 games getting more care = Hell, most 3rd party Ps3 games get more people/time to work on porting it over... It's familiar tech inside the 360 (Software tools) plus the better gaming specific hardware in the 360 that gives the advantage to just about every multiplatform game in texture quality.

The 360 will always be better for game development.

{EDIT} Btw, Sony is dumb to try & blow this off like it's nothing... All they are doing is showing their arrogance once again.

Did someone mention TB?


http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2008/07/10/TM1812_Turkey-Bacon-Double-Cheese-Burgers-with-Fire-Roasted-Tomato-Sauce_lg.jpg

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Is that Turkey Flounder? Haddock Bacon? Whatever, somebody needs to sound the Jim Rome Fish Alarm NOW.

Mmm..bacon turkey

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1201/530842520_28008f1535.jpg?v=0

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Is that Turkey Flounder? Haddock Bacon? Whatever, somebody needs to sound the Jim Rome Fish Alarm NOW.
That is a TB double cheeseburger, I think. Might be a TB egg sammich, I forget now

{EDIT} Btw, Sony is dumb to try & blow this off like it's nothing... All they are doing is showing their arrogance once again.
LOL Its not the end of the world for me if Activision doesnt publish any titles for the PS3. Personally I hope Sony tells Activision to go F themselves. Maybe then the xbois will stay in their own forum instead of trolling around here.

Oh and BTW people mikewarrior, if you read his pasts posts, just goes into any Sony thread to troll and crap on Sony. Mikewarrior = Troll.

LOL Its not the end of the world for me if Activision doesnt publish any titles for the PS3. Personally I hope Sony tells Activision to go F themselves. Maybe then the xbois will stay in their own forum instead of trolling around here.

No, they will just keep laughing at you... Especially with such a dumb way of thinking you have there.

Oh and BTW people mikewarrior, if you read his pasts posts, just goes into any Sony thread to troll and crap on Sony. Mikewarrior = Troll.

LMAO... you think I only crap on Sony. I guess you don't know me from other forums, but I also give Sony props for their 1st party stuff coming this year... Oh, I also crap on Microsoft if they do, or don't do something I don't exactly agree with. I also have both a 360 & a Ps3, so STFU you Troll hunter! lol

This thread is going well.

Good work, Mods. Keep up the damn fine job you're doing.

Is there a reason that people who never post in this forum suddenly appear out of nowhere to rehearse tired crap about "no games on the PS3" and "multiplatform games suck on the PS3"? Before this turns into a turkey bacon slaughter, let me suggest that you go elsewhere. This forum is not for you.

Is there a reason that people who never post in this forum suddenly appear out of nowhere to rehearse tired crap about "no games on the PS3" and "multiplatform games suck on the PS3"? [/B][/I]

Yes, it's because this forum is unmoderated. Which is why I'll never support AVS with banner clicks or membership fees.

Some of the other subforums are moderated, and membership fees quite often allow mods to turn a blind eye to ones indiscretions.

Honestly I think some of you guys encourage it with defensive replies, turkey bacon messages, and not addressing the issue at hand. I read elsewhere that Activision had to pay 500mil alone to Sony JUST to release games on the PS3, which ties along with many of the complaints from other developers on these fees. Then add in additional costs and you can see why the complaints. I in no way see them pulling away from Sony, it's a big money maker for them. I also don't want to see them making games exclusive as it prevents single console owners from playing that new game

I read elsewhere that Activision had to pay 500mil alone to Sony JUST to release games on the PS3, which ties along with many of the complaints from other developers on these fees.

That's only half of the story. How much money did they make on PS3 software? If they made 800mil, that's not really too bad. If they made 300mil, then that's a valid point. EA said the PS3 was actually their most profitable platform, so is Activision just doing something wrong?

Some of the other subforums are moderated, and membership fees quite often allow mods to turn a blind eye to ones indiscretions.

Oh, I know most of the subforums here are moderated. Quite well, usually. It's just the supposed mods of the Playstation forum that are pathetic jokes.

They very well could be. I don't know what both Sony and MS charge to have games on their platforms. I think this is more of a wake up call by Activision to push for a change in their strategy, like a price drop everyone wants them to have. Should be interesting in the next months on what will happen

Originally posted by bassmonkeee
Yes, it's because this forum is unmoderated. Which is why I'll never support AVS with banner clicks or membership fees.
I thought kysersose was the gaming moderator? I used to support AVS and there internet advertisers, but because of how some things were handled by said moderator, I am back to supporting the local brick and mortar stores....

I thought kysersose was the gaming moderator? I used to support AVS and there internet advertisers, but because of how some things were handled by said moderator, I am back to supporting the local brick and mortar stores....

Like I said--this sub-forum is not moderated.

I like that too. It reminds me of the square package that fake bacon comes in.

I hope you not insinuating that turkey bacon is fake bacon.

If so, ur ded 2 me Tez

I even have my own playing card as a troll hunter


http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/WOWAZE/oversizesenzir.jpg

if you guys want to see if mods are around, start a warhawk thread... ;)

wow

the mods must be on vacation

Why are you all spending your time to even respond in a thread you don't care for?
The thread is no longer about the title which was created because of a response of another thread that was made but now it is all about your feelings and why you need a mod to do somthing you can actually do yourself and that is no longer contribute to the thread you didn't care about in the first place. This goes any thread now and in the future because it is now about you and not being able to actually discuss this stuff without taking it personal because someones opinion or preference doesn't align with yours.

I read elsewhere that Activision had to pay 500mil alone to Sony JUST to release games on the PS3, which ties along with many of the complaints from other developers on these fees.No.

That "$500million" claim that got tossed around along with this story was referring to licensing fees that Activision had to pay Sony's other, non-gaming divisions (mostly Sony's music division).

Development fees are nowhere near that high, especially considering that the most expensive games cost 40-50mil altogether. And most other next-gen games cost $10-20mil (for multiplatform and exclusives). Making a game multiplatform (like Guitar Hero) is a sure way to make some money back. Kotick was just being stupid.

...Before this turns into a turkey bacon slaughter...[/B][/I]

Man that would be a kick-ass straight-to-DVD horror flick. Turkey Bacon Slaughter!

where's vincentnyc when this forum needs him??


Here ya go:

http://www.fridae.com/user/vincentnyc

Here ya go:

http://www.fridae.com/user/vincentnyc

wat.

Here ya go:

http://www.fridae.com/user/vincentnyc

Is that Bob Barker? ::eek:

This thread is going well.

Good work, Mods. Keep up the damn fine job you're doing.

well. looks like well just have to regulate ourselves until the mods show up.

Oh great, now it's Lord of the Flies

Oh great, now it's Lord of the Flies

Would Piggy be TurkeyPiggy?

Oh great, now it's Lord of the Flies

Welcome to our subforum. Grab a Turkey Bacon sandwich and stay a while.

Is it possible to make a conch shell out of turkey bacon?

Here ya go:

http://www.fridae.com/user/vincentnyc

"Interested in Men for Anything"

Huh? What does that mean? Oil changes? Babysitting? Roof repair? I just don't understand...

Is it possible to make a conch shell out of turkey bacon?

I tried to find a conch recipe involving wrapped bacon. The best I could come up with was a conch and bacon stew.

I tried to find a conch recipe involving wrapped bacon. The best I could come up with was a conch and bacon stew.
Conch is like chewing on tires....rubbery. It would ruin the bacon

Is it possible to make a conch shell out of turkey bacon?You could try adapting this: http://baconcamp.org/Bacone :eek:

My Turkey Bacon sandwich tastes like Xbox 360 is crap hardware. Yum.