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ax gates 06-27-09, 05:48 AM I like this mini-series. Its got decent pacing, and pretty believable acting for the most part, barring maybe a character or 2. I really like the grandfather being obnoxious at every turn. The sidekick to the female lead is someone I could do without, but other then that I must say I'm enjoying what I see. The dynamic of the couple expecting a kid is pretty good as well. What does everybody else think?
monchopr72 06-27-09, 02:47 PM I also enjoy it. I found the huge moon a little creepy. I would like to know if anybody has any thoughts on the physics of such an event. For example it seem to me that an impact of an object with twice the mass as earth and moving at what appears to be a significant percent of the speed of light would have completely destroy the moon in the first place.
Are you surprised that this is the first time a thread has been started on this one? I am.
It is a good summer mini-series. But, the thing that kinda disappointed me is the few number of special effects scenes, since my largest TV is still new enough (March) that I look forward to these.
And, yes, I thought it was odd that the moon did not entirely get destroyed. Maybe the conclusion will contain an explanation.
But, the thing that kinda disappointed me is the few number of special effects scenes, since my largest TV is still new enough (March) that I look forward to these.
It's a German production that ABC picked up; probably didn't have the largest budget to begin with.
Brian Conrad 06-28-09, 03:57 PM According to articles I read in The Hollywood Reporter we are going to be seeing even more outsourced programming and cheaper US productions due to the economy. "Mental" on FOX is produced in Columbia. I think the last episode was the first one I've seen where they inserted some exteriors of LA.
grittree 06-29-09, 08:37 AM I kept expecting Bree to walk into the oval office with a plate of designer cookies.
jandron 06-29-09, 11:09 AM Interesting how many American actors were in it.
I found the effects incredibly cheesy, and a lot of the acting over the top. I guess the German approach is a little different; they certainly like to see tears. And big reaction shots. The same reaction shots. Over and over.
sirjonsnow 06-29-09, 11:23 AM Are you surprised that this is the first time a thread has been started on this one? I am.
Not me, I never even heard of it until opening the thread just now.
ax gates 06-29-09, 11:28 AM The pace was definitely off for the 2nd half of the series but it was still tolerable. If this were a season long series I might have a different opinion
Cal1981 06-29-09, 11:37 AM I did watch both episodes and liked them. The acting was pretty much of the "mail it in" variety but the concept was interesting. Putting the moon on a collision course with the Earth was a refreshing spin on the usual ateroid/comet/meteor hitting the Earth scenario. The magnetic surges were pretty well done (the maglev lifting off the tracks wasn't bad at all) and those shots of the humongus moon hovering in the sky were pretty cool. I was a bit puzzled at the last shot of the moon though. If a third of it completely fractured off was it just going to sit there suspended in a permanent orbit along with the main body?
Interesting how many American actors were in it.
Somewhat familiar American (or at least English-speaking) actors make it a much easier sell when you're trying to sell it internationally, which is certainly what the production company was planning on.
Overseas production companies have been doing it for decades.
rajmarie 06-30-09, 11:07 AM Didnt like the 2nd part. The ending took a long time to come....& they didnt show that the moon is no longer a danger to earth. etc.
I felt like that the directors run out of time & did a hush hush job to complete the movie
Gmichael2 06-30-09, 02:21 PM I enjoyed this mini very much. The only thing that kept bugging me was that the moon at 2x the mass of the Earth would not orbit us. We'd orbit it.
Cosmos2 06-30-09, 08:51 PM That was the only thing? :D :D
They landed on the moon at night and had lights in their helmets shining into their eyes. Walk outside at night and shine a flashlight into your eyes. You will be blind.
Since the moon had 2x earth gravity, they couldn't land and take off in a tiny spaceship. They would have needed a huge rocket with tons of fuel.
The Soyuz could not launch a moon ship.
The moon should have been hot enough to kill the astronauts the instant they touched the surface.
Exploding nukes in space would not make a sound.
The force that propelled the brown dwarf out of the moon should have had an equal but opposite force acting on the moon. Since the force was strong enough to send the brown dwarf into the sun, the moon which was much lighter should have shot out of the solar system, assuming it didn't hit the earth first.
The brown dwarf would most likely have missed the sun, looped around the sun and headed back toward the earth.
The astronauts who returned to earth should have died from the dose of radiation they received while on the moon.
rajmarie 07-01-09, 09:45 AM That was the only thing? :D :D
They landed on the moon at night and had lights in their helmets shining into their eyes. Walk outside at night and shine a flashlight into your eyes. You will be blind.
Since the moon had 2x earth gravity, they couldn't land and take off in a tiny spaceship. They would have needed a huge rocket with tons of fuel.
The Soyuz could not launch a moon ship.
The moon should have been hot enough to kill the astronauts the instant they touched the surface.
Exploding nukes in space would not make a sound.
The force that propelled the brown dwarf out of the moon should have had an equal but opposite force acting on the moon. Since the force was strong enough to send the brown dwarf into the sun, the moon which was much lighter should have shot out of the solar system, assuming it didn't hit the earth first.
The brown dwarf would most likely have missed the sun, looped around the sun and headed back toward the earth.
The astronauts who returned to earth should have died from the dose of radiation they received while on the moon.
Lol.....it the movie, miniseries, TV series makers use so much logic...then we will not have anything to watch except sports. I accept some of them should have been considered or explained a bit more. BTW....the force that propelled brown dwarf out....was strong...strong enough to crack the moon in 2 pieces. That IMO covered this point.
Marty Milton 07-01-09, 11:31 AM Didnt like the 2nd part. The ending took a long time to come....& they didn't show that the moon is no longer a danger to earth. etc.
I felt like that the directors run out of time & did a hush hush job to complete the movie
I knew the second part was going to be disappointing when I saw the previews. It was very predictable, even down to who got killed on the mission.
JohnS-MI 07-01-09, 11:54 AM That was the only thing? :D :D
They landed on the moon at night and had lights in their helmets shining into their eyes. Walk outside at night and shine a flashlight into your eyes. You will be blind.
Since the moon had 2x earth gravity, they couldn't land and take off in a tiny spaceship. They would have needed a huge rocket with tons of fuel.
The Soyuz could not launch a moon ship.
The moon should have been hot enough to kill the astronauts the instant they touched the surface.
Exploding nukes in space would not make a sound.
The force that propelled the brown dwarf out of the moon should have had an equal but opposite force acting on the moon. Since the force was strong enough to send the brown dwarf into the sun, the moon which was much lighter should have shot out of the solar system, assuming it didn't hit the earth first.
The brown dwarf would most likely have missed the sun, looped around the sun and headed back toward the earth.
The astronauts who returned to earth should have died from the dose of radiation they received while on the moon.
All good points. The moon is about 1/80 of earth's mass; if the brown dwarf increased it to 2x, several effects were not accounted for:
*The brown dwarf should have split the moon immediately and knocked it completely out of orbit. When masses in a ratio of 160:1 impact, the heavier one says "what was that" and goes about its business, with the lighter mass smashed on its surface. The combined mass would have gone roughly wherever the brown dwarf was previously headed.
*At present the moon causes tidal swings around 3' along much of the US coast. An increase from 1/80 earth mass to 2X is a factor of 160. Imagine tides 160 times normal (or thereabouts).
The gravity on the moon's surface would have approximated 27 g, up from 0.17 g. (I'm not sure the brown dwarf was centered in the moon.) We were seeing simulated 2 g maybe not 27 g.
*The equal and opposite reaction force would have affected the two moon chunks far more than shown, as you point, given the mass ratios.
Why, there are holes in the plotline big enough to throw a brown dwarf through. :eek:
(Although at least they didn't attempt to explain how the meteor shower was caused by global warming :D )
CardiacArrest 07-01-09, 04:27 PM It was nice to see David James Elliot and Steven Culp in something, I haven't seen them since JAG. Although DJE seems to have not aged as well as Steven Culp,
David James 07-01-09, 05:49 PM I kept expecting Bree to walk into the oval office with a plate of designer cookies.:D
I don't recall ever seeing that actor before Housewives. I guess in my mind he will always Bree's bondage loving husband.
Cosmos2 07-01-09, 09:12 PM The most obvious goof was that the president didn't wear a flag pin. :D
I can generally accept bad science when the bad science is necessary to create a good story and there is no good science to replace it.
But why show a Soyuz and a small moon ship when they could have shown a giant rocket launch a big moon ship that was appropriate for the 2x earth gravity on the moon? That's a case where they chose bad science when the bad science was not necessary to the story. That's especially annoying in a movie that pretends to be somewhat realistic.
JediMastr 07-02-09, 04:48 AM lol I was laughin at the science of it all--especially the landing on the moon parts...
--hey 2x the earth's gravity and they take off like it was nothing
--all those nukes and they weren't at all worried about radiation
--everything on earth was being pulled toward the moon but it had floating debris around the impact
--super-magnetic-mass causing havoc on earth, but they fly down the crater towards it like it had no effect...until some rocks hit them lol
--seriously, they couldn't have used un-manned probes to map the crater? that part of the mission didn't even make sense
that had to be the silliest mini-series I've seen in a long time, but at least we got to see the moon split in half LOL
petergaryr 07-02-09, 08:54 AM It was not worse than some of the movies Sci-Fi shows on Saturday nights--maybe even a cut better.
Accuracy to scientific principles usually optional in these. As is believable acting. However, as light entertainment for a summer evening....it could have been much worse.
The concept of the moon blowing up and being in pieces wasn't original...since that was a pretty neat scene in the latest version of The Time Machine.
didnt like the 2nd part. The ending took a long time to come....& they didnt show that the moon is no longer a danger to earth. Etc.
I felt like that the directors run out of time & did a hush hush job to complete the movie
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