View Full Version : Oh no G70 glycol spill! Advice much needed.


atomiccow
06-29-09, 09:31 AM
Saturday I asked my seller (CRT inexperienced) to check on at least the blue tube and send me a picture, which he dutifully did yesterday. With the projector on the floor he took off the shell and removed the lens as per my written instruction. The good news is the tube is immaculate. After talking I discovered it had only 100 hours This is going to sound funny or tragic, he didn't know what a CRT tube looked like so he was still looking for a vacuum tube like in an old ham radio. In his pursuit of finding the "vacuum tube" not knowing he was already looking at the "cathode ray tube" he unloosed a screw releasing the glycol in the blue tube!

If the projector was sitting on the floor would the glycol have poured on the boards or other bad place?...or just into the plastic shell or floor?

I could tell when he picked up the phone he was sad. He didn't feel he could sell the projector after what happened.

I was thinking "no big deal" the glycol is easy to replace, especially since it was the blue and its clear. I told him I still would want it. I never imagined it would hit the boards or be corrosive.

Here is a picture of the tube as it is now
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/atomiccow1/Blue-12.jpg
Obviously finding out it has immaculate tubes I want the projector badly.

So I need wise advice and suggestions for both of us to come out on top.
If he cleaned the spill up quickly and well last night, would it be wise or unwise tomorrow or in a few days to fire it up to see if it still works. (Keeping in mind of course the some or all the glycol is not there.)

If we know or can guess what board(s) the glycol would have hit are they something I could replace myself? I've replaced tubes myself.

I'm spitballing since I have not seen the inside of a G70.

If we checked the projector and found it to be working perfectly, I was thinking of asking him to put the projector on Ebay "buy it now" and using their Ebay authorized escrow.com service for the transaction. I give the escrow service the money to hold until I checked out the projector. If I check it out and accept the projector escrow sends the money.

Curt Palme
06-29-09, 10:06 AM
Worst case he spilled some into the PA board. BEst case, there is some on the sealed HV transformer, which you can clean up. Grab the set!

atomiccow
06-29-09, 10:42 AM
Thanks Curt you were the one I most needed to talk to.
I was even considering calling you. I was trying to post to your CRT forum but must have screwed up registration.
I love you again.

I think I said that last about four years ago.
I recommended your NEC tubes to the guy selling his 9PG and suggested he mention the tubes as a selling point for his projector. I gave him your name and contact info. Its a long shot but he describes the projector as having daily use for 14 years without a tube change. Who ever buys it is going to need all three tubes that's for sure.

One last question. Will the tube crack, burn or something else very very bad if turned on without the glycol replenished?

cinema mad
06-29-09, 12:14 PM
You should'nt run the projector at all untill you clean the glycol off the boards or where
ever it has leaked, Glycol is extreamly corosive so it need to be removed ASAP..

Depending on how much Optical glycol leaked out I would just top the Blue tube back up with some new glycol.. Ask Curt if you need Optical glycol..

It is easy to get but you need the right type, Close or the same as the refractive index of the OEM glycol used in the G70..
I use M/G chem's projection tube coolent comes in 500ml bottle's http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/803.html..

Cheers...

atomiccow
06-29-09, 05:15 PM
Thanks for the good advice Cinemamad. I'm super grateful to everyone for their good and very timely advice in this case. I wish I could throw Curt some more business than a bottle of glycol. This it the third CRT he's helped me with since my first in 2001. I was able to pay it forward more when the forum was busier by trying to help others. I just discovered Curts CRT forum and it looks like everyone is over there. I still like coming here because it feels like an old home I used to live in.:)

Curt Palme
06-29-09, 05:27 PM
You can turn the set on without hte glycol, but at low contrast and for under a minute or so (more if the contrast is say at 10-20 or so. Just power it up to make sure it works, then lowball the buy and get the glycol. :)

atomiccow
06-29-09, 11:01 PM
You can turn the set on without hte glycol, but at low contrast and for under a minute or so (more if the contrast is say at 10-20 or so. Just power it up to make sure it works, then lowball the buy and get the glycol. :)


When I heard the tubes were pure white red/green...he was describing them to me as he was uncorking them, first I got a huge boner, then it went limp since that meant there was about zero chance of me winning the projector at his auction with a 600 dollar bid. I then started advising him to post the pictures and that someone would buy it for hundreds more than I intended to bid, (which was just six hundred). It was then It was then it got through to me he was trying to tell me he spilled the juice and he didnt' have the conscience to sell it to anyone in that condition. I even tried to suggest just post the images and mention the spill and someone who knows about projectors would buy it. I was still jizzing over the tubes and told him I'd give him eight hundred but he could make way more at auction. I guess I'm a dope for offering more. I probably could have got it for six but I actually felt guilty buying a clean G70 for $600. I think we are both happy and relieved to get what we got now.

I guess you'll get a glycol sale as I'd feel guilty buying glycol anywhere else.:)

troglobite
06-30-09, 01:40 AM
I actually felt guilty buying a clean G70 for $600. I think we are both happy and relieved to get what we got now.

I guess you'll get a glycol sale as I'd feel guilty buying glycol anywhere else.:)

You should have offered him $300 for screwing up the glycol and say it would take weeks to fix that.

Any chance you could say something like, "I was asking a few buddies of mine, and I don't know if you ruined the projector, so I can't offer more than $300 as parts."?

atomiccow
06-30-09, 01:49 AM
You should have offered him $300 for screwing up the glycol and say it would take weeks to fix that.

Any chance you could say something like, "I was asking a few buddies of mine, and I don't know if you ruined the projector, so I can't offer more than $300 as parts."?


I could never be so cold.:p Its like a weakness of mine I guess. My roommate was mocking me for offering more. I wish in life it worked like Groundhog Day where you could try different things and see what worked. If I had offered him 300 I could have bought a moome thingy.

atomiccow
06-30-09, 01:51 AM
Speaking of buying glycol on the Curt Palme site...how do you do that? Email?
I can't find it.