View Full Version : Home Video in HD - media options?


kingdavid
07-02-09, 10:23 AM
I am considering buying an HD camcorder. What's stopping me is that I am not sure if there is a viable way to produce and store final content.
I always do some basic video editing on PC. With standard definition it's a no-brainer - I just output the result to a DVD.
But Blu-Ray media is still wildly overpriced. So, I am not sure if it is the way to go.
What are my options? What are other people using?

Nosferax
07-02-09, 10:32 AM
MKV, MP4, M2TS. If you are equiped to stream then watching them on your TV is easy.

MovieSwede
07-02-09, 10:33 AM
I am considering buying an HD camcorder. What's stopping me is that I am not sure if there is a viable way to produce and store final content.
I always do some basic video editing on PC. With standard definition it's a no-brainer - I just output the result to a DVD.
But Blu-Ray media is still wildly overpriced. So, I am not sure if it is the way to go.
What are my options? What are other people using?

It usually depends on the type of content, length of the content and what the target audience is.

I have used for my content

Harddrive, USB stick, cell phone, DVD(WMV), BD9 and BD25.

All have their pros and cons.

kingdavid
07-02-09, 11:27 AM
Nosferax
Apparently you mean that hard disk would be my storage medium?

MovieSwede
Cell phone for HD video - that's surprising.
I would like a medium to store my home videos for posterity. I have PS3 as a player.
I would go with BD, but I don't if the media makes sense at this price point.
DVD are good price wise, but I am not sure they will do technologically (for HD).

Nosferax
07-02-09, 01:25 PM
Money wise the most practical solution is hardisk based.

You can get an external 1t drive for 99$ or so, less if internal.

If you have a PS3 you can stream them to it via PS3MediaServer or TVersity and bypass the size limitation of Fat32 that way.

PSound
07-02-09, 02:21 PM
NAS systems are also coming down in price. You can get a NAS solution and use it as a media server to stream to a PS3 or XBox 360 fairly quickly and easily.

With a NAS server, you could also make the content downloadable for friends and family.

MovieSwede
07-02-09, 02:44 PM
MovieSwede
Cell phone for HD video - that's surprising.

Its basicly just a USB memory, but very practical for demomaterial.

I can not play 1080P video directly on the phone.

Nosferax
07-02-09, 03:10 PM
NAS systems are also coming down in price. You can get a NAS solution and use it as a media server to stream to a PS3 or XBox 360 fairly quickly and easily.

With a NAS server, you could also make the content downloadable for friends and family.

If he has a PC he doesn't need to pay a premium for a NAS. All that you can do with a NAS he can do with his PC with internal or external drive for less money and with more possibility (transcoding and such).

PSound
07-02-09, 03:30 PM
If he has a PC he doesn't need to pay a premium for a NAS. All that you can do with a NAS he can do with his PC with internal or external drive for less money and with more possibility (transcoding and such).

Certainly one of the great things about a PC is the flexibility it affords.

But a simple NAS device will allow for simpler user, share and protocol management if he wishes to share his movies not only to multiple devices in his home, but also to various friends and family members via the internet. Most devices also allow for a simple drop-in of an extra drive to get immediate data redundancy. Add in the low power footprint of having the device and data always available and there are certainly advantages in using a dedicated RAS solution.

The trade-off is cost. For me, the benefits of a dedicated device (including also using it to automatically backup the data on my computer devices) is certainly worth the cost.

Just an option for the OP depending on his vision of how he may want to share his content within and outside the home...

kingdavid
07-02-09, 04:08 PM
Money wise the most practical solution is hardisk based.

You can get an external 1t drive for 99$ or so, less if internal.

If you have a PS3 you can stream them to it via PS3MediaServer or TVersity and bypass the size limitation of Fat32 that way.

I have plenty of hard disk space and my house is wired, but I don't feel very comfortable about using hard disk as a primary storage for my home video.
It's like putting all eggs in one basket. And if the disk crashes I lose everything.
I feel better about optical media because the risk is spread.

PSound
07-02-09, 04:22 PM
I have plenty of hard disk space and my house is wired, but I don't feel very comfortable about using hard disk as a primary storage for my home video.
It's like putting all eggs in one basket. And if the disk crashes I lose everything.
I feel better about optical media because the risk is spread.

A NAS system with built-in RAID support is very easy to setup and use. Do a search on the ReadyNAS DUO for some more info.

If you are really concerned with maintaining your data you can also setup automated online backups with the system.

I would guess that such a solution would even be more cost beneficial in the long term over writable optical media.

Everdog
07-02-09, 04:54 PM
I have one 1TB drive and also a 1.5 TB drive on a cheap PC. Rather than RAID, I have a batch file that copies any new files on one to the other every night. I also manually run it when I copy files from my camcorder. This way if I delete a file, it is still on the backup. About every year I upgrade the smaller drive to a larger size and packup and save the old one.

The PC comes in handy because I can use TVersity (or other programs) to stream my local HD movies, pictures, MP3s, as well as a ton of Internet based video to my PS3s.

miata
07-03-09, 02:08 AM
You can also burn the AVCHD files onto a DVD+-R DL and get around an hour of 1080i video on a single disc. This is what I do with my Canon HF100 stuff. The nice thing about these DVDs is that they play on most Blu-ray players and can have menus and everything just like DVD -- only HD.

I have a buddy who is really in to burning DVDs with output from his Canon GL2 or XL-1 and his jaw just dropped when he saw what you can put on a DVD from an HD videocam.

fitprod
07-03-09, 11:22 AM
I would like a medium to store my home videos for posterity. I have PS3 as a player.

I don't believe there is currently a way to use BD-RE's with PS3 without ACSS.

I know Samsung, Panasonic and Pioneer stand alones can.

fitprod

Nosferax
07-03-09, 12:04 PM
I have plenty of hard disk space and my house is wired, but I don't feel very comfortable about using hard disk as a primary storage for my home video.
It's like putting all eggs in one basket. And if the disk crashes I lose everything.
I feel better about optical media because the risk is spread.

When I add a drive internally I buy one that is external for backup. But by my personnal experience I replace my HDD for bigger sized one faster than they can go bad on me. Once I replace a smaller drive by a bigger one I put the smaller one in an external case and use it as backup or as a transport drive to replicate on my other computers around the house.

Again, with my personnal experience, I had so much DVD-R go bad on me that I don't even care about the medium except as a transport when I have to give the media to somebody else.