The PQ is decent. Some ringing here and there. No obvious DNR or waxy look. I may have to agree with others here the contrast and color timing is a bit too "harsh" for my taste. I hope they use the transfer closer to the "look" of the DVD when it get released in the US. The cinematography of this western movie is gorgeous and the initial BD transfer does not do it justice.

Now I know some of you is thinking "Who cares? How is the lossless sound?"

The climactic shootout is the Audio demo scene. Perfect for "breakin' in" your subwoofer. My twin Velodynes handled it quite well :D

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I prefer the HDnet captures. The blu-ray's color looks too warm and artificial looking.

The BD also has blown highlights and is mushier than the HDNet broadcast.

Holy cow. That is, well, shocking.

What the hell. If it is not one thing it has to be another?
Clouds play a big role in the cinematography and is meant to be seen which is evident in the DVD and the broadcast version; considering how prominently the skyline is featured in shots.

Look how an overcast day has now become a scorching dusk shot instead. This changes the tone of cinematography and it wasn't meant to be a Leone film, I do love his films though.
Now the grain structure really stands out more than it normally would. I actually remember the look of this film from the theater and it didn't appear like this.

HDNET, looks superior. Man, I love this movie.


(FRN)? Is that for French release?

Oh, please don't let it be this bad in the US.

Best Regards
KvE

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If this is release by Sony they are schizophrenic, Run Lola Run suffers from ganked contrast along with the recent Ghostbusters.

Ouch.. I agree the HDnet broadcast looks the best..

The Blu-Ray looks off...

I thought the HDNET version looked better at first, too, but now I don't know; upon further analysis, it looks like grain has been improperly minimized and as for detail, look at the background trees and mountain terrain in post #2...there's much more texture, detail and color variation shown in the Blu-ray.

I love this movie, the EE on the dvd is pretty bad and the BRD is odd.
Looks like I will have to keep waiting to watch it at home

I thought the HDNET version looked better at first, too, but now I don't know; upon further analysis, it looks like grain has been improperly minimized and as for detail, look at the background trees and mountain terrain in post #2...there's much more texture, detail and color variation shown in the Blu-ray.

Yes, only color and brightness seem to be better on the broadcast version, compression and detail are much better on the BD, even though it's a far cry from a real, unmolested, unfiletered presentation from a good source.

Too bad, the movie is just fantastic!

I thought the HDNET version looked better at first, too, but now I don't know; upon further analysis, it looks like grain has been improperly minimized and as for detail, look at the background trees and mountain terrain in post #2...there's much more texture, detail and color variation shown in the Blu-ray.

I agree, the HDNET version looks over worked and robbed of the rich color I remember from the DVD version.

The HDnet version and the dvd are from the same transfer though.

HDNet version is heavily DNR'd in the latest shot posted. But the BD seems to be in color torch mode. Who knows what color timing is right? Only a direct comparison to a print will reveal the truth.

We can certainly see that the color is way different in the BD compared to the HDNet and DVD versions. We can also see the HDNet version has been filtered to hell and back.

Oh well. I'll just rent this one.

Oh, so this is where they misplaced Do The Right Thing's yellow filter.

"It's the hottest day of the summer on the open range..."

This is a great movie and I look forward to the NA release (with a great transfer).

HDNet version is heavily DNR'd in the latest shot posted. But the BD seems to be in color torch mode. Who knows what color timing is right? Only a direct comparison to a print will reveal the truth.

If they intended to make it look realistic, I'd guess the greenish tint of the Blu-ray isn't right. Weathered wood looks gray. To make it worse they cranked up the saturation to the point where there are strange colors. I've never seen pink and green colors in the sky as in the shot of the two guys on the hill.

The Blu-ray disc version color balance is off, it is yellow (someone removed too much blue in the process). As for detail, look at the green lamp shades in the bar scene. There is much more detail in the HDNet version.

I got this BD and in actual viewing, it looks pretty darn good. I prefer it over the HDNet version, which I also have. The latter looks a tad washed out to me, but I agree the French BD is a tad warm. As for detail, the BD has more, easily noticeable, again in actual viewing. I'm using a 120" 2.35:1 Dalite HP screen w/a Panny AE3000U PJ.

BD: contrast boosted

As for detail, look at the green lamp shades in the bar scene. There is much more detail in the HDNet version.

Hmm...you're right...not to mention, the HDNET version makes it more clear that the sign behind the counter reads "No Varmits or Vagrants"...but I stand behind the town establishing shot having a more detailed background on the BD, so we appear to have two transfers that dance back and forth throughout on which offers the better overall experience (the compression artifacting alone in the HDNET shots is horrifying). Can we all agree that none of these transfers is up to the par we'll hopefully find one day when there's a U.S. BD release?

sheesh, look at the forcefield around Costner, even in the BD....

but I stand behind the town establishing shot having a more detailed background on the BDLook at: the balcony railing on the Haidin & Regan store, the window on the side of the General Store, all show better detail on the HDNet version.

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I had this disc - for 3 days and sold it. Audio was f'ed up - voices all sounds like they took a small hit of helium. Directly compared it to the DVD audio - very much noticeable to me. The French Dances With Wolves was worse. Regardless of the DNR, the HDnet version looks much better to me - did not like the colors at all on the BD.

How long ago was this on HDnet? I've had it for a while and do not recall seeing it in the listings.

Holy amber, Batman! Great movie, but I'll be sticking with the DVD.

How's the audio on this BD? The gun shots on the DVD version was one of my reference scenes.

Wow, that's a lot of yellow!

HDNet looks DNR'd (hey, grain is the enemy of low bandwidth) but man the Frenchy BD looks like I am watching it with blue-blocker sunglasses on, it's awful. And look at the clouds to the left of Costner in that third shot - holy multicolor digital noise batman! Now look at the HDNet version, and tell me which one looks like, say, actual clouds. I have never in all my time on planet earth seen a sky that looks like the BD, but it looked like the HDNet broadcast all day long here in DFW...

Really want a good release for this underappreciated film. Great work, great story.

HDNet version is heavily DNR'd in the latest shot posted. But the BD seems to be in color torch mode. Who knows what color timing is right? Only a direct comparison to a print will reveal the truth.

Not exactly a smoking gun, but I found a short review here (http://academichack.net/reviewsDecember2003.htm#Open_Range) which describes the film's color scheme as "garishly orange-brown, like a neon saddlebag" (nice one); the writer in question saw it theatrically (so says his screening log (http://academichack.net/new2003.htm)), so it would seem the theatrical prints had a strong yellowish bias.

Sweden released Open Range two days ago on Blu-ray.

I've made some screencaps which match Xylons comparisons (slightly, not exactly the same frame).

The ones' to the right is the swedish release:

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And these are just some others from the swedish release:
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Better colors and contrast to my eyes.
The french seems far to yellow and torchy.

Sweden released Open Range two days ago on Blu-ray.

Thanks foughman, it looks much better than anything that came before it.


Was it released by Disney or is it from an independent distributor? Can you also point me to an e-tailer that sells it?

;)

Thanks foughman, it looks much better than anything that came before it.


Was it released by Disney or is it from an independent distributor? Can you also point me to an e-tailer that sells it?

;)

It was released by a swedish distributor called Nordisk Film. It costs 89SEK (approx. $13).

English DTS HD-MA 5.1 and Dolby Digital 5.1. No english subtitles, only the scandinavian ones. No forced subs. I'll check the regioncode soon.

You can buy it here! (http://www.discshop.se/shop/ds_produkt.php?lang=&id=83435&lang=se&subsite=bluray&&ref=)

I got it a few days ago. Great price and I'm very satisfied that it got the colors of the DVD. Thanks for the screens!

All of these look absolutely terrible. Why anybody would waste there money is a question I don't even want answered.

yeah, terrible

All of these look absolutely terrible. Why anybody would waste there money is a question I don't even want answered.

Haha, weren't you the one who wrote an essay about how bad The Thin Red Line release was? What a joke. I guess Blu-ray ain't really your thing.

what a ****ing idiot

It was released by a swedish distributor called Nordisk Film. It costs 89SEK (approx. $13).

English DTS HD-MA 5.1 and Dolby Digital 5.1. No english subtitles, only the scandinavian ones. No forced subs. I'll check the regioncode soon.

You can buy it here! (http://www.discshop.se/shop/ds_produkt.php?lang=&id=83435&lang=se&subsite=bluray&&ref=)

Beats the French but Nordisk Film, eh? Knowing their trackrecord a valid question would be: "1080p/24 or 1080i/50?"

Regarding Discshop, unless AlexBC is living in Sweden Discshop will not ship to him, it has been a while since Discshop serviced foreign customers.

Whenever the US release comes out I sure hope it looks like the Swedish version because that resembles more closely to what I remember when I saw it in theaters.

I really enjoy this movie, maybe I'll just import the Swedish version even though it seems to be a bit filtered.

Best Regards
KvE

Well, at first I wasn't really happy with the captures from the HDNet version. I thought it looked too washed out, though the BD captures were too rich.

However, I remember that I just replaced my laptop and hadn't calibrated the screen and was still running in "torch mode". After making a few adjustments, I like the HDNet version better overall, but still would like to see just a touch deeper blacks - not much, just a touch. The BD seems to go a bit further than I'd like, and that's not taking into account the color temperature.

The one thing I noticed in the wide shot of the town that struck me as it being wrong in the BD was the lack of difference in the street between mud, manure and other stuff. It all looks like dirt. In the HDNet version, you can see spilled grain, cow and horse pucks and animal sewage in the water in the ditch. While not something you'd want to see in real life, it's part of the scene.

Here's what I would personally prefer on the wide town shot as compared to the MPEG2 version (it's a JPEG, so it's not meant to compare detail and such, just levels):

Altered:
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Looks like they pee'd all over the French version.

Looks like they pee'd all over the French version.
Or perhaps maybe they forgot to switch back to normal mode after blue-gunning the monitor.... ;)

I initially didn't find the French BD that bad in actual viewing, but based on foughman's screengrabs above, the Swedish BD is clearly better. Love this movie, so will order if it's regionfree.

Beats the French but Nordisk Film, eh? Knowing their trackrecord a valid question would be: "1080p/24 or 1080i/50?"

Regarding Discshop, unless AlexBC is living in Sweden Discshop will not ship to him, it has been a while since Discshop serviced foreign customers.

Are you 100% sure that they don't ship outside Sweden? I'm a swede and I thought they did because many people outside of Sweden has bought movies from Discshop before.

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The back of the cover says nothing about the regioncode. I have a region B-player in my computer (which I can make regionfree) but I don't know how to see which regioncode it has! Does somebody know? By the way, here's some more info about the swedish release:


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00009.MPLS AVC 2:18:40 21*724*483*584 22*780*718*229 20,89 16,97 DTS-HD Master 5.1 1969Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps


http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/10229/1d93e5102280859.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1d93e5102280859)



DISC INFO:

Disc Title: Open range
Disc Size: 22*780*718*229 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00009.MPLS
Length: 2:18:40 (h:m:s)
Size: 21*724*483*584 bytes
Total Bitrate: 20,89 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 16970 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1969 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1969 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics Danish 21,273 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 21,386 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 20,739 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 19,960 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
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00014.M2TS 2:18:39.602 0:00:00.417 12*288 236

CHAPTERS:

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------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
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STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
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00014.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0,250 169 5*290 32

Doesn't looks like discshop.se ships to the U.S. Tried english.megastore.se, but their shipping fee is as much as the disc price, so not worth it.

Are you 100% sure that they don't ship outside Sweden? I'm a swede and I thought they did because many people outside of Sweden has bought movies from Discshop before.
Seems they have changed their stance on this as their FAQ now says they will ship within the EU. This must be quite recent as a few months ago it said they did not and this had been in effect for a couple of years. What the reason for this change is I do not know. Either way, people outside the EU will have to find alternate ways of aquiring this, either from other Swedish or Scandinavian sites.

Doesn't looks like discshop.se ships to the U.S. Tried english.megastore.se, but their shipping fee is as much as the disc price, so not worth it.

Yes, Megastore really stiffs you on the shipping as do a few other Swedish sites that ship abroad. Nordisk Film distributes throughout Scandinavia so try to broaden your search to Denmark, Norway or even Finland (asssuming they are available there yet or about to). Not many that are English-friendly though.

I think they can ship outside Sweden. I can't find anything on their site that proofs the contrary.

I think they can ship outside Sweden. I can't find anything on their site that proofs the contrary.

Only within the EU.

Just off loaded the French disc.

Not to throw another wrench into the works but Amazon.de has a version coming out Nov. 19th.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZXD9X4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1ARQN93BEKXNFEAQBWFJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128

Haha, weren't you the one who wrote an essay about how bad The Thin Red Line release was? What a joke. I guess Blu-ray ain't really your thing.

Maybe you should have have read the thread? Nobody was debating whether the release was good or not. It was good. Was is the best it could have been? No, not by any chance seeing as blurays even at 40mbps are compressed from gigantic lossless files that probably are over 1GB per second. Seeing that Criterion chose not to do 2 discs for such an important release and to have so many hours of extras in HD kept the bitrate lower than it should have been, and grain suffered a bit. Nobody ever said it was a bad release by any means, just not worth 30 dollars for me.

Seeing as Bluray is so compressed to begin with, there really isn't any reason that many films (not TTRL) are leaving off 20GB of space regularly except to soften the image and delete the grain which in reality is totally against the preservation of film. We are still quite a ways from seeing these films how they are in fact, but there is no denying that if space is not a problem you should be aiming for 35mbps bitrates on every release.

As for the idiot comment. I think you make yourself out to be what you are. These screens and these releases for this film are all terrible. How you could possibly disagree is beyond me. This stuff looks like bitrate starved crap pure and simple. There isn't hardly a speck of grain that looks realistic in any of these shots. Maybe you don't have any idea what the format is capable of, maybe you have no idea how far passed bluray we will eventually go. I don't know, but keep those comments to yourself. You bought a bluray release that barely gives half the bitrate that it is capable of and you are calling me an idiot because why again, because I don't like compressed to hell releases?

I wasn't even talking about the swedish version as I didn't even see it when I first posted the comment. But to be honest that version doesn't look very good at all either. At least the edge enhancement is kept in check, eh.

Sorry, guy, when there is a 1gbps digital master lying around somewhere this encode (the one posted on this page, the swedish one I take it) doesn't seem to be in the best of shape by anybody's meter or their eyes. Every encode of a bluray I have seen below 20 looks like crap and that is my opinion. And even if you want to take into account the 4:2:0 color of bluray you still have LARGE amounts of compression that would no doubt easily benefit as has been shown millions of times before with a high bitrate release. I can guarantee that this bluray dips into the laughable 10mbps region quite a lot.

Edit: from that graph it looks like it basically stays in this region for much of the film.When you have such haphazard encodes you are going to get a picture that fluctuates wildly from scene to scene (and not because of content) and that is never good in my eyes. So there you go. Open Range happens to be one of my favorite westerns. Back under my bridge.

Back under your bridge...

I used msgohan's program and the swedish disc appears to be regionfree!

I used msgohan's program and the swedish disc appears to be regionfree!

I still can't find a Nordic vendor who ships overseas. Pity. It's actually released as a budget title, but with the weak dollar works out to roughly US$17.

http://english.megastore.se/template/next%2CProduct.vm?itemid=2237027

I'll see if I can find some other stores who can ship overseas.

There is Bengans.se (http://www.bengans.se) as well but with their shipping rate of SEK 130 it really isn't much of a bargain.

Maybe I can buy a couple.

Not to throw another wrench into the works but Amazon.de has a version coming out Nov. 19th.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZXD9X4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1ARQN93BEKXNFEAQBWFJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128

Odd the audio says it will be; Deutsch (DTS-HD 6.1), Englisch (DTS-HD 6.1)

Is there a reason for it not being released in the US? I've been looking forward to this title for a long time.

Thanks,

Jim

http://english.megastore.se/template/next%2CProduct.vm?itemid=2237027

I'll see if I can find some other stores who can ship overseas.

I want to purchase this but don't know what their currency is as I need to figure out what the cost will be in US dollars. Anyone know?

Thanks,
Tom

Their official currency is Swedish krona (SEK), but that store is using euros (EUR).

Their official currency is Swedish krona (SEK), but that store is using euros (EUR).

Order placed. Thanks!

Tom

I can't believe that it took less than a week to get this. Much better than my old hd net dvhs recording. Definately one of my best import decisions.

Think I'm going to get this too, I was hesitant at first but watching the images from the Swedish release I can't resist. It's not like there is much competition at the moment, not to mention it is cheap!

The German release is (more or less) just around the corner. Maybe I'll wait and see what it has to offer: http://www.amazon.de/Open-Range-Weites-Land-Blu-ray/dp/B003ZXD9X4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1287906337&sr=8-1.

I'm pretty sure the german release will have the same transfer. But it might have extras and maybe more subtitles and audiotracks (dubs). I wouldn't buy it. :)

I'm pretty sure the german release will have the same transfer. But it might have extras and maybe more subtitles and audiotracks (dubs). I wouldn't buy it. :)

The audio listed on it is DTS HD 6.1 which could be a typo for 5.1 or 7.1 if it is the latter then improved audio for 7.1 system owners could make it the best choice for them.

The specs according to Universum Film (http://www.universumfilm.de/video/sales/movie.html?ID=e1a59084-555c-468d-a76d-a33feceea116):

Titel
Open Range - Weites Land

Veröffentlichung
19.11.2010

FSK
ab 12 Jahren

Laufzeit
139 Minuten
Bildformat
2,35:1 (1080p/24)

Tonformat
DTS-HD 6.1

Sprachen
Deutsch, Englisch

Untertitel
Englisch

Untertitel für Hörgeschädigte
Deutsch

Extras
Laufzeit Bonusmaterial ca. 137 Minuten
- Audiokommentar Kevin Costner
- Featurette "Amerikas Open Range"
- Making Of
- Entfernte Szenen
- Die Storyboards
- Deutschlandpremiere
- "Broken Wagon" Videoclip
- Trailer & TV-Spots

Tempting, tempting indeed...

Just hope the version released in the USA, is atleast as good as the HDnet version or the Swedish...........if not then I shall be aiming to get the swedish...

oh well, as I have said before, I have found TOO OFTEN that both the HBO and HDnet versions of various movies to be superior in color to the colors of the bluray, as well as sometimes superior in detail but sound of the blu-rays is always superior....

no excuse for such when it comes to PQ....

Just watched the swedish release last night and it looked wonderful in motion. And the ending scene blew my pants off!

Damn you Tom Monahan (and you too foughman) ;) :D! Just placed my order! :)

Damn you Tom Monahan (and you too foughman) ;) :D! Just placed my order! :)

You will be thanking us soon my friend.:)

Tom

Got mine last week and watched it on my 120" 2.35:1 screen. Even though it's a BD25 disc, it's got beautiful PQ and solid AQ. Better than the French version.

Originally Posted by SCHNEEDOO
Not to throw another wrench into the works but Amazon.de has a version coming out Nov. 19th.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003...pf_rd_i=301128

I pre-ordered this version, got it in the mail yesterday I can tell you;

It is Region B so you will need to either have a player that can play Region or rip it, strip the Region code and re-burn it.

It has (DTS-HD MA 6.1) tracks for both English and Deutsch, displays as 7.1 on my receiver, this is the first DTS HD MA 6.1 I have seen or heard and sounds great! It could be me but I swear they amplified slightly or mades sounds like foot steps, gun shot echos clearer and more discernible from the DVD version I have.

On the video side, it looks pretty damn good , some scenes are grainier than others but by far a major improvement over the DVD.

Here are a couple of images;

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5695/ci164255364830119062.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/ci164255364830119062.jpg/)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8775/ci181270635230119063.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/ci181270635230119063.jpg/)

Here is the BDInfo;


Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00001.MPLS AVC 2:19:04 38,103,029,760 47,756,592,469 36.53 28.98 DTS-HD Master 6.1 2390Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DTS 2.0 320Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title: OPEN_RANGE_BD
Disc Size: 47,756,592,469 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 2:19:04 (h:m:s)
Size: 38,103,029,760 bytes
Total Bitrate: 36.53 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 28976 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 2390 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2390 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 2596 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2596 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS Audio English 320 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 320 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 23.960 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 31.180 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 42.833 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:19:04.753 38,103,029,760 36,529

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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3 0:11:22.890 0:02:45.832 34,712 kbps 40,414 kbps 00:11:40.574 39,031 kbps 00:11:31.482 38,912 kbps 00:13:35.689 180,971 bytes 409,584 bytes 00:13:48.869
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13 1:02:04.345 0:06:41.609 29,840 kbps 39,514 kbps 01:07:20.286 38,294 kbps 01:02:34.917 36,578 kbps 01:02:29.912 155,571 bytes 284,204 bytes 01:06:20.351
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15 1:11:39.336 0:04:27.350 30,487 kbps 34,146 kbps 01:14:38.474 33,491 kbps 01:14:38.390 33,137 kbps 01:14:33.135 158,943 bytes 279,206 bytes 01:14:07.067
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STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

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---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
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00001.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 8344.586 24 24,992,142 142,359
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Got mine last week and watched it on my 120" 2.35:1 screen. Even though it's a BD25 disc, it's got beautiful PQ and solid AQ. Better than the French version.

I agree, but on a screen half the size

I pre-ordered this version, got it in the mail yesterday I can tell you;

It is Region B so you will need to either have a player that can play Region or rip it, strip the Region code and re-burn it.

It has (DTS-HD MA 6.1) tracks for both English and Deutsch, displays as 7.1 on my receiver, this is the first DTS HD MA 6.1 I have seen or heard and sounds great! It could be me but I swear they amplified slightly or mades sounds like foot steps, gun shot echos clearer and more discernible from the DVD version I have.

On the video side, it looks pretty damn good , some scenes are grainier than others but by far a major improvement over the DVD.

Here are a couple of images;

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5695/ci164255364830119062.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/ci164255364830119062.jpg/)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8775/ci181270635230119063.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/ci181270635230119063.jpg/)

Here is the BDInfo;


Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00001.MPLS AVC 2:19:04 38,103,029,760 47,756,592,469 36.53 28.98 DTS-HD Master 6.1 2390Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DTS 2.0 320Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title: OPEN_RANGE_BD
Disc Size: 47,756,592,469 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 2:19:04 (h:m:s)
Size: 38,103,029,760 bytes
Total Bitrate: 36.53 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-4 AVC Video 28976 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 2390 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2390 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 2596 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2596 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS Audio English 320 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 320 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 23.960 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 31.180 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 42.833 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:19:04.753 38,103,029,760 36,529

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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1 0:00:00.000 0:05:44.302 25,921 kbps 39,086 kbps 00:02:23.643 38,810 kbps 00:02:23.143 36,662 kbps 00:02:21.057 135,126 bytes 358,555 bytes 00:00:40.040
2 0:05:44.302 0:05:38.588 31,118 kbps 39,828 kbps 00:09:24.897 38,876 kbps 00:08:06.903 38,785 kbps 00:08:04.775 162,233 bytes 440,791 bytes 00:06:04.989
3 0:11:22.890 0:02:45.832 34,712 kbps 40,414 kbps 00:11:40.574 39,031 kbps 00:11:31.482 38,912 kbps 00:13:35.689 180,971 bytes 409,584 bytes 00:13:48.869
4 0:14:08.722 0:03:30.752 28,885 kbps 40,508 kbps 00:16:31.949 39,105 kbps 00:16:27.820 38,912 kbps 00:16:27.945 150,592 bytes 378,484 bytes 00:14:09.723
5 0:17:39.475 0:05:46.471 30,435 kbps 39,131 kbps 00:18:16.929 38,253 kbps 00:18:18.847 37,729 kbps 00:18:15.052 158,674 bytes 378,948 bytes 00:18:12.883
6 0:23:25.946 0:05:17.775 29,837 kbps 40,314 kbps 00:28:20.323 39,129 kbps 00:28:16.403 38,976 kbps 00:28:11.398 155,555 bytes 379,946 bytes 00:26:44.561
7 0:28:43.722 0:05:23.156 26,262 kbps 36,655 kbps 00:29:20.508 34,548 kbps 00:29:34.689 33,921 kbps 00:29:27.682 136,918 bytes 440,298 bytes 00:31:29.554
8 0:34:06.878 0:05:21.571 31,616 kbps 40,070 kbps 00:38:08.577 38,455 kbps 00:38:08.828 37,451 kbps 00:38:04.115 164,833 bytes 348,795 bytes 00:38:56.167
9 0:39:28.449 0:05:43.259 30,929 kbps 38,791 kbps 00:43:28.689 37,673 kbps 00:44:18.364 37,023 kbps 00:44:15.736 161,249 bytes 396,091 bytes 00:42:03.687
10 0:45:11.709 0:07:35.037 29,169 kbps 39,731 kbps 00:48:00.627 39,005 kbps 00:47:56.707 38,898 kbps 00:47:51.702 152,076 bytes 322,793 bytes 00:48:10.429
11 0:52:46.746 0:03:59.530 33,169 kbps 40,478 kbps 00:56:02.776 38,832 kbps 00:55:16.021 38,534 kbps 00:55:16.104 172,926 bytes 300,721 bytes 00:54:21.841
12 0:56:46.277 0:05:18.067 30,044 kbps 39,457 kbps 00:58:22.582 37,491 kbps 00:57:12.470 36,820 kbps 00:57:07.590 156,636 bytes 286,014 bytes 00:57:05.213
13 1:02:04.345 0:06:41.609 29,840 kbps 39,514 kbps 01:07:20.286 38,294 kbps 01:02:34.917 36,578 kbps 01:02:29.912 155,571 bytes 284,204 bytes 01:06:20.351
14 1:08:45.955 0:02:53.381 30,565 kbps 40,044 kbps 01:09:55.024 36,210 kbps 01:11:09.765 35,381 kbps 01:10:04.074 159,354 bytes 304,335 bytes 01:09:04.723
15 1:11:39.336 0:04:27.350 30,487 kbps 34,146 kbps 01:14:38.474 33,491 kbps 01:14:38.390 33,137 kbps 01:14:33.135 158,943 bytes 279,206 bytes 01:14:07.067
16 1:16:06.687 0:05:06.764 28,920 kbps 38,204 kbps 01:20:28.782 34,905 kbps 01:20:28.740 34,661 kbps 01:20:28.740 150,777 bytes 300,116 bytes 01:20:16.144
17 1:21:13.451 0:06:29.430 26,597 kbps 35,594 kbps 01:21:38.727 34,477 kbps 01:21:46.693 33,971 kbps 01:21:38.560 138,663 bytes 288,118 bytes 01:22:52.050
18 1:27:42.882 0:02:54.591 26,115 kbps 32,210 kbps 01:30:09.695 30,388 kbps 01:30:06.109 29,619 kbps 01:30:05.108 136,149 bytes 361,278 bytes 01:30:21.666
19 1:30:37.473 0:04:02.575 28,056 kbps 34,916 kbps 01:34:31.791 33,732 kbps 01:32:19.992 32,175 kbps 01:32:16.364 146,273 bytes 399,612 bytes 01:31:28.357
20 1:34:40.049 0:05:12.729 27,688 kbps 39,581 kbps 01:35:37.064 36,816 kbps 01:35:33.978 34,556 kbps 01:35:46.949 144,351 bytes 415,599 bytes 01:35:35.020
21 1:39:52.778 0:06:00.526 29,334 kbps 39,401 kbps 01:43:36.418 36,695 kbps 01:43:35.500 35,745 kbps 01:43:33.081 152,933 bytes 394,938 bytes 01:43:34.666
22 1:45:53.305 0:05:01.134 30,225 kbps 40,358 kbps 01:47:15.262 37,582 kbps 01:48:51.816 36,598 kbps 01:48:50.690 157,580 bytes 476,326 bytes 01:49:16.341
23 1:50:54.439 0:06:10.328 30,128 kbps 39,371 kbps 01:51:04.491 38,254 kbps 01:51:01.696 36,352 kbps 01:50:58.568 157,072 bytes 419,660 bytes 01:56:16.678
24 1:57:04.767 0:02:38.575 26,721 kbps 37,532 kbps 01:58:22.053 31,857 kbps 01:58:27.725 31,080 kbps 01:58:20.718 139,309 bytes 330,163 bytes 01:58:07.121
25 1:59:43.342 0:03:34.005 30,733 kbps 39,602 kbps 02:00:53.246 38,091 kbps 02:01:29.407 36,219 kbps 02:01:25.152 160,230 bytes 381,055 bytes 02:00:46.906
26 2:03:17.348 0:03:21.284 24,335 kbps 34,325 kbps 02:06:36.589 31,369 kbps 02:06:33.627 29,924 kbps 02:06:28.622 126,873 bytes 275,015 bytes 02:03:23.729
27 2:06:38.632 0:07:50.052 30,577 kbps 40,627 kbps 02:08:34.456 38,909 kbps 02:08:05.427 38,817 kbps 02:08:04.718 159,415 bytes 471,369 bytes 02:08:38.252
28 2:14:28.685 0:04:36.067 17,437 kbps 31,380 kbps 02:15:19.820 30,988 kbps 02:15:16.817 30,552 kbps 02:15:11.812 90,922 bytes 339,724 bytes 02:15:19.736

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 8344.586 28,976 30,224,567,164 164,380,360
00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA deu (German) 8344.586 2,596 2,708,219,220 16,024,116
00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 8344.586 2,390 2,493,347,444 14,845,477
00001.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 8344.586 318 331,704,104 2,346,963
00001.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 8344.586 31 32,523,548 183,679
00001.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 8344.586 24 24,992,142 142,359
00001.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 8344.586 43 44,678,947 250,732



How did you go about ordering this from amazon... I tried using google translate... but even still I can't read anything in the checkout.

Thanks for your help. Can't wait to get this.... tired of waiting for the US version!

PS... maybe you want to sell me yours? and save me a headache? :D

I went through the checkout at both amazonde and the Swedish Megastore but $30 is a little rich for me for this film.

A Swedish on-line store is selling the Swedish version for 39 SEK about 6.2 USD. If anyone is interested, shipping is free in Sweden so all that will be added is international shipping so roughly about 16 USD all in all.

A Swedish on-line store is selling the Swedish version for 39 SEK about 6.2 USD. If anyone is interested, shipping is free in Sweden so all that will be added is international shipping so roughly about 16 USD all in all.

Sold!

I'll place an order tomorrow (in about 39 hours) so if anyone else is interested send me a PM

Sent you a PM... Can you post the link so that maybe others can order as well?

http://www.elgiganten.se/product/filmer-boxar/film-blu-ray/BDVDOPENRANGE/open-range-blu-ray

Received the Swedish version from Tompa today... It was definitely worth the $16!

Thanks again Tom!

Just ordered the French BD/DVD combo from amazon.fr.

Oddly, the BD by itself was 1990 Euros and only available from 3rd party sellers, while the combo was 1490 Euros from amazon.fr itself.

I'm assuming the BD in the combo pack is the same unlocked BD as is sold by itself.

Received the Swedish version from Tompo today... It was definitely worth the $16!

Thanks again Tom!

16 bucks? Ouch, that's some profitering :O It should have cost you $9.

Just ordered the French BD/DVD combo from amazon.fr.

Oddly, the BD by itself was 1990 Euros and only available from 3rd party sellers, while the combo was 1490 Euros from amazon.fr itself.

I'm assuming the BD in the combo pack is the same unlocked BD as is sold by itself.
Yeah, it's just a budget re-packaging and re-release.

16 bucks? Ouch, that's some profitering :O It should have cost you $9.

In which "free" universe is that?

16 USD = 100 SEK
Blu-ray 39SEK
Shipping 60SEK

I rounded it up 1 SEK (30 cents), what a profit eh?

Well this sucks. A month later, I get an e-mail from amazon.fr that my order got returned nondeliverable (thanks to Google Translate for turning the French e-mail to English).

My address was correct, and amazon.co.uk has no trouble shipping to it.

I'm not going to bother reordering, so I guess I'll have to wait for an eventual Region A release.

Well this sucks. A month later, I get an e-mail from amazon.fr that my order got returned nondeliverable (thanks to Google Translate for turning the French e-mail to English).

My address was correct, and amazon.co.uk has no trouble shipping to it.

I'm not going to bother reordering, so I guess I'll have to wait for an eventual Region A release.

Unfortunately this is an ongoing issue with the low cost shipping option specifically from Amazon.fr (not with the other Amazon stores), it is remedied by upping to a quicker shipping method (different carrier) but it'll cost ya...

Well this sucks. A month later, I get an e-mail from amazon.fr that my order got returned nondeliverable (thanks to Google Translate for turning the French e-mail to English).

My address was correct, and amazon.co.uk has no trouble shipping to it.

I'm not going to bother reordering, so I guess I'll have to wait for an eventual Region A release.

I had the same thing happen 3 times. I emailed them and commented that something is wrong with DHL, my address is correct. They sent me a form letter back. So, I decided to try the more expensive UPS shipping and that worked. I ordered 3 other titles besides Open Range to make it worth while.

Maybe that's got something to do with why DHL got out of the within-the-US shipping business?

Ask Tompa if he can still get you a copy... I got mine from him in under a week... $16 and it's perfect!