I have a new X10 that I installed this weekend. For the most part everything went smoothly, this unit is replacing a IN72. I ran into an issue when trying to watch a BR disc with the PS3 via HDMI. The PS3 will not show on the X10. I have hooked another monitor to the PS3, worked fine. I have connected another HDMI source to the X10, worked fine. I have tried the MI-DA connection on the X10, the PS3 would not show, however my HTPC works fine (albeit with the DVI/M1-DA converter, not the HDMI/D1-MA converter). My PS3 played fine via HDMI on the IN72 using the same cable. I have even tried moving the PS3 next to the X10 using the supplied 2 meter HDMI cable, no luck.

I have read everything I can find on the net, seems that many X10 and IN8X user are having similar problems, although some are not. Nothing I have tried has made the PS3 show on the X10 at all, when looking at the source info on the X10 it indicated HDMI but all else is grayed out, no info.

Any ideas making these units communicate would be greatly appreciated. The PS3 is a 40G unit.

Best,
Ed

There is something in the settings menu- that adjusts the input sensitivity or threshold. I had the same thing - no video- until I adjusted the input threshold.

Thanks for the response Iread. I will take a look, additional info if any is appreciated.

Best,
Ed

There is something in the settings menu- that adjusts the input sensitivity or threshold. I had the same thing - no video- until I adjusted the input threshold.

Interesting! My PS3 HDMI hookup to my X10 works fine, but this is good to know if a firmware update should ever cause a problem.

I found a Threshold Sync adjustment under the picture>advanced menu. Unfortuantely with no HDMI signal the selections are grayed out. Can you tell me if you had to increase or decrease this setting? The reason I ask is because it is going to be very cumbersome for me to swap this equipment in and out due to my setup, I would like to get it adjustd correctly the first time if possible.

Best,
Ed

No joy, after I hooked a HDMI source that works with the X10 up, the Threshold sync option was not there. If there is another menu item that I should be looking for please let me know.

Best,
Ed

Just in case anyone is interested, I spoke with Infocus today. They are aware of the issue with X10 and the later model PS3 HDMI output, Infocus engineers are working toward a firmware solution, no ETA.


Best,
Ed

That's good to know. I personally don't have any issue with my PS3 and X10 other than the fact that it takes a while to sync up when ever the resolution changes on the PS3. I do have an original launch 20gig system in my theater that I use exclusively for a BD player. I did have an issue at first when I had the auto search feature enabled on the projector. When I turned that off it did finally sync up but slowly as I mentioned above. Keep us informed as to how this plays out. I would be really upset if I bought a new PS3 unit for in there and it no longer worked with the X10.

I have a 40gig PS3, is there any problems with that on the x10 or is it all PS3s? Also, I will be going through my AV Receiver (Onkyo SR805).

I have a 40G as well, no connection to the X10 via HDMI. I don't know if this is true of all 40G, from my searches I would guess not. However Infocus did mention that it is the later releases of the PS3 that are causing issues, for what that's worth.

Switching through a receiver may allow it to work, I don't know, however I have purchased a powered switch to see if that will fix my issue in the short term. The switch should be here tomorrow (Wednesday).

Best,
Ed

As an update I picked up a Monoprice 4X1 HDMI switcher, I recieved it today. I hooked the PS3 into it and then on to the X10, VIOLA! Well almost, I am now able to project the PS3 up to 1080i, 1080p comes in and out of sync, unusable. At least this inexpensive switcher will allow me to watch BR movies at 1080i or 720p until Infocus can resolve the issue.

Best,
Ed

Just hooked mine up last night, no problems. It's a brand new 80 gig PS3 that runs through my Onkyo.

Ed,
Not mentioned in your previous posts, but is your PS3 updated with the latest system update? I'm interested in your follow-up with Infocus as I have a 40G PS3 and am considering the X10 at the moment.

Ed,
Not mentioned in your previous posts, but is your PS3 updated with the latest system update? I'm interested in your follow-up with Infocus as I have a 40G PS3 and am considering the X10 at the moment.

Hi Jim,
I tried the PS3 prior to downloading the latest update and have since updated(3-4 days ago), no joy either time.

The odd things is both the X10 and PS3 worked with other sources/displays, that is why I thought putting something in between them may work. It is possible that if you are switching through a receiver you may not have an issue, I don't know.

I will be updateing this thread once Infocus updates the X10 firmware.

Best,
Ed

BTW, the X10 has an outstanding picture that really shows on quality hi-res sources, I am not convinced it handles SD as well as my now deceased IN72 did, but I am happy with the purchase (assuming they get the PS3 issue fixed of course).

How long and gauge is the HDMI cable? If you're trying to send 1080/60p through a 28awg at 25 feet or more, that might be it.

I've got a launch 60gb going through an onkyo receiver and out via hdmi to x10. No issues. I also have hooked it up straight thru from ps3 to x10 without problems. I'd think there is some kind of setting somewhere too that might be causing issues. Did you try hooking the x10 to ps3 and holding down the ps3 power button to reset your video settings? worth a shot.

I've got a launch 60gb going through an onkyo receiver and out via hdmi to x10. No issues. I also have hooked it up straight thru from ps3 to x10 without problems. I'd think there is some kind of setting somewhere too that might be causing issues. Did you try hooking the x10 to ps3 and holding down the ps3 power button to reset your video settings? worth a shot.

Hello Hmoose,
I have read that the issue is primarily with the later releases of the PS3, although some using the later versions are not having issues. Thanks for the power button tip, however I have done that numerous times with no success. Putting the swtich in line is the first time I was able to see the PS3 on the X10.

Eight,
I am running 35' but it is a 22 awg monoprice cable. I successfully used this cable with my IN72, the PS3 was sending 1080P and the projector was downscaling it, worked great without a glitch.

Best,
Ed

Sorry to hear about it Ed, hopefully someone will get it figured out and fixed real soon so you can enjoy the awesome x10 ps3 combo! Good luck!

I will be updateing this thread once Infocus updates the X10 firmware.


I have this issue as well -- imagine my dismay going out and buying everything yesterday to come home and hook it all up, curse around wondering why it's not working, then finding this thread.

One thing I haven't tried yet is hooking up my amp for HDMI switching. They're just pass-through though, no audio processing so I am doubtful.

How do we get new firmware onto the projector if they were to release an update?

One thing I haven't tried yet is hooking up my amp for HDMI switching. They're just pass-through though, no audio processing so I am doubtful.

How do we get new firmware onto the projector if they were to release an update?

Definitely try going through your reciever, it may work out, the switcher I am using does, up to 1080i/720p anyway. I have a HDMI repeater on the way from monoprice, i will report if it works, It will go on the projector end of the cable.

To upgrade firmware on Infocus projectors you use the MI-DA port. You will need the MI to USB adapter. No firmware update out yet.

Best,
Ed

Well the amplifier route didn't work for me. I've now got it hooked up via component, so I am tied with you Ed at 1080i/720p for now.

Interesting info about the firmware update process, thanks.

I talked to InFocus yesterday and the tech guy knew about the issue and told me to hound Sony to release an update. He didn't mention the possibility of updating the X10. I called Sony but I was at work and didn't have my PS3 serial number -- it sounded like they wanted to take me through standard troubleshooting steps.

I hope somebody somewhere is working on a solution!

Just an update for anyone following this thread. The monoprice non-powered HDMI repeater did not allow the PS3 to communicate to the X10. So, for now, the powered switcher is back in. Still looking for a 1080p solution, I will update this thread if I find one.

Best,
Ed

i have a ps3 and the nad t747... found the forum while i was googling for a firmware update for the infocus x10 because i have no picture. just wanted to let u know that even running through a nad t747 surround receiver does nothing.
but i am a little happy because was a little afraid that it was my t747 that was sick :) ohh yeah and where can u guys see that infocus is working on firmware?
where will it be when released?

ohh yeah and i have had picture yesterday but after everything have been powered down no picture from the ps3...
the surround receiver does find the ps3 and can play sound from the ps3 menu´s :) but that gets quite boring quite fast without the picture.

I have a 40 gig ps3 connected to my X10 via HDMI and have had no problems. One thing to try is to disable all the non used inputs on the X10.

ohh yeah and where can u guys see that infocus is working on firmware?
where will it be when released?
I was told they would be posted on the product support page here:
http://www.infocus.com/Support/Products/Projectors/X10.aspx

Best,
Ed

I have a 40 gig ps3 connected to my X10 via HDMI and have had no problems. One thing to try is to disable all the non used inputs on the X10.

Yes, it is apparently hit or miss regarding which units will or will not have an issue.

Best,
Ed

Just bought an Infocus x10. Using the remote control I can only switch on the projector but its not responding to any of the other button on the remote control like source, auto image or menu button. I can either switch on or switch off the prejector using the remote control. Does anybody have an idea whats wrong here? I tried connecting my DVD players using HDMI, component or composite ports but its not detecting any signals even after pressing the source and auto image button many times.

hds9990,

when you power on, do you see the InFocus red splash screen displayed? Is there any display at all or is there just light?

I've heard before people here say they have received a bad remote. I've only seen it once and don't remember where but I remember InFocus replaced it.

Sorry to hear you're having trouble with your X10 cause it's been a great machine for me.

Fyi, you may want to post this question in the X10 thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1088076). You'll stand a better chance of getting an answer there.

Thanks for the quick reply K-Spaz . Yes the red infocus screen appears as soon as I power it on. After that I cannot use any of the remote buttons to do anything .

I have recently purchased my 1st-ever projector - X10, love it.

A quick question though: With power cord unplugged and after say 1 hour not-in-use, when I plug in power cord, in 1-2 seconds, there is a short and little "running sound", just like the internal rings or mechanics run or start up, does anyone experience the same?

This thread is discussing the issue of the X10 projector not working properly with some 80GB PS3 models when connected via HDMI. Please don't hijack the thread asking questions unrelated to the topic.

Back on topic:
The newest firmware update (v3.0 I believe) was released just a few days ago. It still exhibits the same problem for me when trying to use HDMI. :(

Firmware 3.01 released (http://kotaku.com/5359431/playstation-3-firmware-301-is-live)
Not sure if this one will fix it... I'll try and report back.

had a chance to try it out yet?

I had the same problem, any idea?

Still no luck after all the Sony firmware updates. I will contact InFocus support again soon and see if there has been any movement.

Well I imported an X10 from the US (I'm in Australia) and have a Yamaha 1900 AV Reciever between the pj and the PS3. Now the PS3 worked fine with the same setup and my Sony Bravia 40" LCD. But with pj the Receiver would flick between sound modes PCM and Pro-Logic forever while the pj would just go back to the red infocus splash page after not finding any signal on the HDMI input.

Someone on this forum suggested disabling the other inputs which I did and this worked. You only end up having HDMI and the MA-D1 input enabled but it works this way and I don't use the other inputs anyway.

fyi: I have a 40gb PS3 with the latest fw. Pj only has v1.0 of firmware.

I just tested this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3803378&CatId=81

And it lets me connect my 80GB PS3 to my X10 via HDMI in all its 1080p glory! No more handshake errors. (No signal, setting up image, no signal, *repeat*)

The link says the item is no longer available, but they had a few left in stock at the Markham TigerDirect.

I'll never use the 2nd output, but this is the only adapter they sold that came with a power adapter. Some other HDMI splitters and extenders accepted 5v power, and I suspect they might work as well (they were cheaper) but they didn't include the adapter and I couldn't find it by itself.

interesting reading all of this ... I have had my PS3 hooked into an X10 via HDMI for a year now .. all fine .. I have now moved over to a bigger screen and upgraded the feed from my Wii (which was previously composite) to component. The PS3 worked fine, switched source to the Wii, worked fine, switched source back to the PS3 no signal detected ...
I took the cable and the PS3 through into another room and connected to my Bravia .. worked fine ... I contacted infocus and they just sent out a swap replacement .. hooked it all in and it did exactly the same thing ... This is clearly a design fault in the X10 .. a PS3 is hardly a specialist piece of equipment!

I have a call out for Infocus at the moment to advise me what to do .. I am possibly going to ask for a refund as this contravenes sale of goods act.

as an aside

Interestingly when I bought my projector intially it worked fine with the PS3 and then it was the Wii composite feed that failed .. unit went back and was replaced ... and it is this one that has been fine for a year ...

and as expected it is Sony's fault ... (according to Infocus).... I have my money on it being a switching source error on the projector ... nothing to do with the PS3 it plays perfectly through my Bravia

I'm also in the same boat as many here. Running a PS3 to an X10 with a big headache. I'm using a 25 foot quadruple sheilded 24awg hdmi cable. No go. Funny thing is, it worked for a while when I first set it up for testing. I had to unplug the hdmi cable and take down my projector to paint the ceiling. When I finished and set things up again, I ran in to the 'no signal'/'searching' problem. Quite frustrating to say the least.

I ended up doing a similar solution to Edbag4 and Kucher. I bought a 1x2 powered 1080P splitter from monoprice. It arrived yesterday, hooked it up and kept my fingers crossed. I was relieved that it WORKED!!!

I honestly don't believe that there will ever be a patch guys. It's been quite a few months since this thread started. They should've come up with something by now. Sony couldn't care less and Infocus won't spend money on a firmware update for a discontinued model.

Hey jws444, Which Monoprice splitter did you get? There are (2) 1 x2 powered splitters on the site.

Thanks Randy

I got the Pro Series unit. Product ID 4921. There's a cheaper one for $34.00 but it's not 1.3 certified. Besides, that one wasn't in stock and I couldn't wait until Feb 8. I've been annoyed enough for the past 6 weeks scouring the web looking for solutions.

Great. Thanks!

Well this is a real pisser indeed. The powered splitter worked for 5 glorious days and when I turned on my system tonight, it went back to the old and ever-so-faithful 'searching'. I'm beyond the point of futile frustration and I've become numb to this whole endeavour. :confused:

I certainly wish good luck to everyone else.

jws444 - That's discouraging. :( I had an issue the other day where mine was stuck at 'Checking for signal...' -- not the exact same handshake issue -- but removing/reseating the HDMI cable seemed to do the trick.

Hopefully you can get up and running again.

As a test, I moved my PS3 nearer to the X10 and used a 6 foot generic hdmi cable without the powered splitter. I got an instant connection. I can only assume that there's an issue with cable length in my setup although my previous attempt at using a 25 footer can hardly be considered as pushing the boundaries. Certainly anyone mounting a projector on the ceiling and running in-wall cables would be running this length at minimum. It's not like i'm trying to run a 100 ft. cable or anything like that.

I will move my PS3 to the back of the room so it can be as close as possible to the X10. I measured and i'll need a 15 foot run. I've ordered one from Monoprice and it should arrive Monday. Let's see if knocking off 10 feet will make a difference. I just have to remind myself to test the cable first before cutting holes in the drywall!

Tested the 15 foot Monoprice silver plated copper 24awg wire with success. I did require to reset (holding onto the power button method) the PS3's video settings at the beginning of testing but never needed to do it again afterwards. No powered splitter was used and it displayed quick and faithful source switching/scaling. It would seem that my setup's signal threshold lies with 15 feet of cable, or less.

Watched a movie yesterday and start/stopped it a few times to test. Everytime it swtiched from 480p menu to 1080p movie, I held my breath and had a expletive ready to let loose. I'm cautiously happy to say that everything went well.

I hope everyone finds the correct balance in their own systems to be able to finally sit down an watch a movie. Ironic how the time and money spent on these systems were supposed to relax the owners and not to provide endless irritation!