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sanjeevnuts
07-07-09, 01:15 PM
A very newbie question.
Why convert m2ts to mkv for play thru say popcorn a-110?

- I created a Batman .iso using anydvd (First and only rip so far)
- Mounted the iso using deamon tools
- copied the largest m2ts file out to a usb drive (I think it was the 7th file)
- played with popcorn a-110

I could even select all 5 audio streams by selecting from the remote (Including TruHD).
So why would I go thru the exercise to convert to mkv?

Is it because mkv files are compressed and use less storage?

CRT Dude
07-07-09, 05:13 PM
Mkv has less overhead than m2ts so a 1:1 copy would be a little smaller.

diogen
07-07-09, 07:56 PM
Is it because mkv files are compressed and use less storage?Most of the time.

Nobody bothers to change the container when ripping the BD as-is.
MKV usually means all but one audio stream is dumped and the video re-encoded so the resulting movie fits a SL or DL DVD (4.37GB or 8GB).

sanjeevnuts
07-08-09, 05:11 PM
Most of the time.

Nobody bothers to change the container when ripping the BD as-is.
MKV usually means all but one audio stream is dumped and the video re-encoded so the resulting movie fits a SL or DL DVD (4.37GB or 8GB).


Buth re-encoding to fit a DVD defies the purpose of backing up the BD doesn't it? You lose 1080p and you lose the fancy audio.

Why would one spend big bucks to buy a BD disk only to rip and encode to 480p - presume that is what you gonna get when you shrink it down to a dvd.

CRT Dude
07-09-09, 07:19 AM
1080P DTS fits well enough on a DL DVD. Its hard to send 50GB "backups" to your hundreds of "friends" across the world.

sanjeevnuts
07-09-09, 10:27 AM
1080P DTS fits well enough on a DL DVD. Its hard to send 50GB "backups" to your hundreds of "friends" across the world.


That I did not know. 1080P and DTS 5.1 can go on a DL DVD?
Can someone confirm this?

LOL My backups are for myself, not "friends".

CRT Dude
07-10-09, 02:48 PM
Pull up your favorite torrent tracker site and search for a movie in 1080P. You'll get a bunch of ~8GB mkvs unless its long movie which are usually ~12GBs(DVD9+DVD5).

Killer Rabbit
07-13-09, 09:06 PM
The question of re-encoding the video/audio stream is beside the point. .m2ts and .mkv are both containers; they have no bearing on the amount of compression used. An mkv could be a crappy 1 GB re-encode of a Blu-ray, or a 50 GB complete rip of a Blu-ray.

That being said, I believe an m2ts taken from a Blu-ray or AVCHD disk is going to be a bit bigger than an mkv with the same contents, because the m2ts contains extra file structure information that you don't need. Additionally, as diogen pointed out, when repacking an m2ts into an mkv, people usually remove any audio streams they don't want. There's no point in keeping a French dub of an American film if you can't speak French (although, AFAIK, most studios don't really include foreign tracks as much anymore).

But the biggest consideration is the software or hardware you're using to watch the movies on.

If you plan on watching the rips using software like XBMC, VLC, etc., you should be fine either way.

If you plan on using PowerDVD, or another Blu-ray player software, you should stick to m2ts.

If, as you mentioned, you use a stand-alone device like a Popcorn Hour or a Western Digital player, you'll probably have better compatibility with the mkv container.

ChrisW6ATV
07-14-09, 12:46 AM
Buth re-encoding to fit a DVD defies the purpose of backing up the BD doesn't it? You lose 1080p and you lose the fancy audio.
You are entirely correct.

The issue is, probably 99.99% of Blu-ray-to-MKV "backups" are really just ripped off copies of rented or borrowed movies, or done by people who actually will buy them but then make copies to share on the Internet.

taz291819
07-14-09, 11:45 AM
When you change the container and get rid of stuff you don't want, you can save a few GBs of space. Plus, not all software can play the subtitles straight from an m2ts, nor change audio streams.

For my media server, I convert the m2ts to mkv, pick the audio stream and subtitle if necessary, and usually end up saving a few GBs per movie. That adds over of time.

Rigby Reardon
07-19-09, 09:09 AM
I think Matroska is simply a more flexible and compatible format. It's also easier to handle than m2ts files thanks to the MKVToolnix utilities. Also, MKV supports chapters which M2TS doesn't.

I currently use it to archive part of my HD-DVD collection on the HTPC (of course without reencoding the video). Works well for those too.

diogen
07-20-09, 10:18 PM
I think Matroska is simply a more flexible and compatible format. It's also easier to handle than m2ts files thanks to the MKVToolnix utilities. Also, MKV supports chapters which M2TS doesn't.There is (at least) one advantage M2TS has: Windows 7 plays it (when DRM free) out of the box...
For MKV you need Haali installed.

Mummyscurse
07-24-09, 06:16 AM
My own experience has been that reencoding formats employing the splendid H264 technology do effectively shrink the file sizes ofterribly large .m2ts movie files. With as much as 50gb of storage capacity to play with, on a dual layer Blu-ray disc, there's no need for the video disc producers to work at keeping file sizes down, nor should they.

Like several others here, whether it's a case of using Popcorn Hour's hard drive video streaming interface, or any of the growing number of streaming media boxes that plug into HDTV's, or external hard drive storage played through a HTPC, storage space quickly becomes, in fact, a critical concern, if you see yourself as a "movie collector". On our 1080p 65" HDTV, my 66 year old eyes find little to discern, qualitatively, between 1080p pictures and 720p pictures, converted with H264, at a somewhat lower bitrate, as well as the lower 720p screen resolution (same framerate). That quality tradeoff is one I'm willing to make, to cut a 20gb movie to perhaps 5gb's, for the sake of extending my hard drives' storage capacity!

I am having one huge problem, however. None of the commercial, "one click" reencoding programs seem to offer a feature that enables you to select the audio track among those several which may be offered in the .m2ts video file. The reencoding programs default the selection to the first of the audio tracks, which may or may not be the English track, or may be the track which has Director's comments, if available. Does anyone here know of an .m2ts capable reencoding program, which can reencode to .mkv, and which ALLOWS SELECTION OF THE AUDIO TRACK WANTED?

Xylon
07-24-09, 09:42 AM
heh :)

"re-encodes" :D

Just buy a bigger hard drive. Less than 10 cents a gig nowadays.

Mummyscurse
07-24-09, 11:11 AM
Uhhh, yes, "re-encodes". What was there in my query that suggested I was a newbie clown, incapable of doing the math, and that I had not already purchased several 1tb SATA drives, at less than "10 cents a gig nowadays"? I suppose your simplistic, all-too-obvious reply was well intentioned, but it does NOTHING to address my basic question, concerning what I consider to be a consistent shortcoming in the commercially available, Hi-Def video conversion engines.

My collection of films now numbers in excess of 5,000 titles, all on DVD's, of which I'd like to transfer as many as 1,500 to hard drives, for the sake of immediacy and enormous cataloging convenience. Even at less that "less than "10 cents a gig", it adds up fast! More to the point, when you fail to see much difference, on screen, between 1080p and carefully encoded 720p material, my question is why pay for hard drive space, and storage racks, that you need not employ, and where does the space come from to rack mount those extra 8 - 10 SATA drives?

It should not be THAT difficult for one software designer to detect the multiple tracks that many of the main movie .m2ts files contain, and offer a selection among those tracks for the conversion. They seem quite content to take your $30 to $40, only for the customer to learn after the fact that as much as 25% of the time, you're going to get the Director's comments, or even stranger, on US releases, a German or French track, for the program's default, first track selection. After an eight hour reencode, it's no fun to run the file in your player and hear "Wie geht es ihnen..." as the first audio you hear!

I've had little success learning to use the complexities of the various freeware GUI's that are designed to help walk the user through the use of the Haali Splitter, tsMuxeR, etc., so I keep coming back to the "one click" approach... yes, this is one case where I like things "dumbed down" for me. So, again I ask if anyone here is aware of a program that allows the user to select from among the audio tracks in .m2ts videos? If not, should it be that difficult for some software designer to include that feature? It seems like a stunning omission to me... lazy software design...

taz291819
07-24-09, 12:17 PM
I'm against re-encodes, and when I convert m2ts to mkv, it's NOT a re-encode, as the video is not touched. What I do is merely leave some "options" out, like audio tracks and various subtitles, and change the container.

Mummyscurse
07-24-09, 01:53 PM
That's fine; I certainly respect that point of view. If I had unlimited financial resources, such as the bankers, oil companies, and pharmaceutical manufacturers paying off Congress, I'd probably feel differently about the sacrilege of diminishing video quality to save on drive space. But, I have a LOT of movies to archive, and can't afford the luxury of buying many, many more hard drives in order to do it.

And, I still insist... I can't SEE enough of a qualitative difference between 1080p and 720p to agonize over my choice. This thread started as a question about converting from m2ts to mkv, my favorite H264 conversion format, so I doubt that I'm the only one who makes this choice... and then gets hit with the audio track issue. Any solutions, any programs that enable this choice?

taz291819
07-24-09, 04:02 PM
That's fine; I certainly respect that point of view. If I had unlimited financial resources, such as the bankers, oil companies, and pharmaceutical manufacturers paying off Congress, I'd probably feel differently about the sacrilege of diminishing video quality to save on drive space. But, I have a LOT of movies to archive, and can't afford the luxury of buying many, many more hard drives in order to do it.

And, I still insist... I can't SEE enough of a qualitative difference between 1080p and 720p to agonize over my choice. This thread started as a question about converting from m2ts to mkv, my favorite H264 conversion format, so I doubt that I'm the only one who makes this choice... and then gets hit with the audio track issue. Any solutions, any programs that enable this choice?

Use "eac3to" to demux the m2ts (it lists what audio track is what, and makes the video track a MKV file). It can also transcode audio if you want, to dts, ac3, FLAC.

Transcode your video to 720p H.264.

Mux the final video and audio via MKVMerge.

saraQ
08-18-09, 11:40 PM
Thanks to all

Mummyscurse
08-19-09, 05:24 AM
Use "eac3to" to demux the m2ts (it lists what audio track is what, and makes the video track a MKV file). It can also transcode audio if you want, to dts, ac3, FLAC.

Transcode your video to 720p H.264.

Mux the final video and audio via MKVMerge.
...whew, that sounds so straightforward and east to follow, to those who have figured out all the settings, and now understand the methodologies! But, I still prefer the well laid out, easy-to-use, "one click" graphic interfaces fronting the few major conversion engines commercially available. And, in my quest to solve this riddle of the missing audio track choices, I think I've found a winner. I don't have anything to gain by promoting one particular company's product, but so far, so good, with AVS Video Converter 6, available at AVS4U.com (http://www.avs4you.com/index.aspx). When you click the "Advanced" button, among the features in the drop down window is the heretofore missing Audio "Track" selection feature... per this company screen capture. It's a fast conversion engine, and has a "Pause" feature, also missing from most of the competing software. It's been exactly what I was looking in vain for. Only one problem... this puppy ain't cheap, at $59!

http://www.avs4you.com/pics/screenshots/big/VideoConverter6_4.png

Bozster
10-21-09, 12:35 AM
My primary reason is because MKV can hold FLAC, m2ts can't.

taz291819
10-21-09, 11:05 AM
...whew, that sounds so straightforward and east to follow, to those who have figured out all the settings, and now understand the methodologies! But, I still prefer the well laid out, easy-to-use, "one click" graphic interfaces fronting the few major conversion engines commercially available. And, in my quest to solve this riddle of the missing audio track choices, I think I've found a winner. I don't have anything to gain by promoting one particular company's product, but so far, so good, with AVS Video Converter 6, available at

According to the specs of that software, it can read mkv, but cannot write/create a mkv, which is what this thread is about. Also don't see FLAC support listed either:

http://onlinehelp.avs4you.com/AVS-Video-Converter6/Features/Converting/ConversionTips/SupportedFormats.aspx

I'll stick to the free software. Typing one line in CMD is worth saving $60.

stead2120
11-15-09, 02:44 PM
Before using my HTPC, I used to stream .m2ts wirelessly via PS3 Media Server. I would run into trouble wirelessly steaming MKV files, but M2TS files would work much better than MKV files for me. But now since I have a dedicated computer, I can run wither MVK or m2ts wirelessly with not issues at all.

desirer
11-24-09, 07:22 AM
The m2ts format has one huge advantage over the mkv: it can be splitted and then played from any point you want. The mkv file can become unplayable or simply useless even if only header or few kbytes are corrupted. As for me, this certainty of usability is worth a few megabytes bigger filesize.

Wryker
11-25-09, 10:44 AM
If you have a A110 - why not use ToNMT? You use it to rip just the movie and you can select any/all audio streams; and it's free. If you want to rip just the movie and select a specific audio track/s then use ClownBD - it's also free. Both are easy easy to use (did I stress easy?). I use both in conjunction with AnyDVD HD (requirement to rip BDs). I find that even ripping just the movie and one audio stream (the HD one) ends up over 25GBs for most of the new releases (Transformers 2 is the largest rip yet at over 30GB). I've never tried MKV nor have the desire - if the movie is under 25GB - I rip to a 25GB disc (that cost @$3) - if it's over that size and if I want a copy I rip the entire image using AnyDVD's "rip to image" feature and then use ImgBurn to burn it to the BD-R DL disc (@$9). And yes, ImgBurn is free!

mytbyte
11-30-09, 10:48 AM
If just backing up (1:1) your BD discs, I really do not see much point in remuxing to mkv...you can easily remove unwanted audio or other tracks and still have the original BD subtitles after remuxing to m2ts by using TSmuxer...this is especially convenient if you have a media player - m2ts demuxing is done in hardware and is thus less demanding than mkv demuxing which needs to be programmed and is done in emulation and sometimes just plain has bugs or becomes a strain on the processor due to otheh tasks it needs to perform in parallel like rendering srt subtitles...m2ts and BD subtitles are handled entirely by hardware's internal routines and are smooth and trouble-free..IMHO of course

Burnerbum
12-04-09, 03:39 PM
I want to put some of my bluray movies on my server but don't want the complete disc because of storage. Putting up to 50gb for each movie will fill up even a moderate size server. So my question is, can I put the movie file only and keep chapters in the file (not menu) so I can jump forward or backward. And if so, how?

Thanks

I should mention, I know how to recognize and extract the file but how do i keep chapters embedded in it.

Wryker
12-04-09, 04:00 PM
I want to put some of my bluray movies on my server but don't want the complete disc because of storage. Putting up to 50gb for each movie will fill up even a moderate size server. So my question is, can I put the movie file only and keep chapters in the file (not menu) so I can jump forward or backward. And if so, how?

Thanks

I should mention, I know how to recognize and extract the file but how do i keep chapters embedded in it.

I dont' use chapters but I have a PCH-A110, AnyDVD HD, and us ToNMT to rip just the movie and chosen audio/s. On the PCH you can fast frd or 'jump' by percentage of the movie. It works fine for me though I don't know what system you're using to watch.

Burnerbum
12-04-09, 04:49 PM
I dont' use chapters but I have a PCH-A110, AnyDVD HD, and us ToNMT to rip just the movie and chosen audio/s. On the PCH you can fast frd or 'jump' by percentage of the movie. It works fine for me though I don't know what system you're using to watch.

I have a PCH-100, C-200 and can do that but also the Mvix Ultio which I can't. I would like to reduce the size of these too but haven't figured out what is the best way to do that.

taz291819
12-06-09, 12:55 PM
I have a PCH-100, C-200 and can do that but also the Mvix Ultio which I can't. I would like to reduce the size of these too but haven't figured out what is the best way to do that.

Go read the MKV topic in the HTPC area, it has all the info you need.

assJack1
12-29-09, 09:01 PM
I have been searching for a while for a M2TS to MKV converter. Found a bunch... But in reality I don't want a "converter" - I want a container changer. No need to do a transcode.

Oh yes, one feature that I really want the ability to automatically add chapters (say in five minute intervals).

Any suggestions on a single piece of software that will do this?

Thanks!

taz291819
12-30-09, 11:24 AM
I have been searching for a while for a M2TS to MKV converter. Found a bunch... But in reality I don't want a "converter" - I want a container changer. No need to do a transcode.

Oh yes, one feature that I really want the ability to automatically add chapters (say in five minute intervals).

Any suggestions on a single piece of software that will do this?

Thanks!

eac3to and MKVMerge will do the trick.

Wryker
12-30-09, 02:48 PM
I have been searching for a while for a M2TS to MKV converter. Found a bunch... But in reality I don't want a "converter" - I want a container changer. No need to do a transcode.

Oh yes, one feature that I really want the ability to automatically add chapters (say in five minute intervals).

Any suggestions on a single piece of software that will do this?

Thanks!

Hurm - forget if it does MKV but have you checked ClownBD or AVCHD?

assJack1
12-31-09, 01:15 PM
Thanks guys. I took a look at all of them and MKVMerge appears to be the least painless. I'll try that later tonight.

Appreciate the help.

Burnerbum
01-01-10, 02:00 PM
Thanks guys. I took a look at all of them and MKVMerge appears to be the least painless. I'll try that later tonight.

Appreciate the help.

I tried using MKVMerge and when I try to open the m2ts if get an error message stating file not supported. Have you tried this program yet?

taz291819
01-02-10, 11:23 AM
I tried using MKVMerge and when I try to open the m2ts if get an error message stating file not supported. Have you tried this program yet?

You have to use eac3to on the m2ts file first. It'll change the container from m2ts to mkv, and process whatever audio, chapters, subtitles you choose. Then use MKVMerge to merge all the files into one mkv. And just to note, it doesn't re-encode the video, it simply changes the container. Audio can be left untouched or transcoded. I normally transcode to FLAC, since mkv supports it, and you don't lose any quality (lossless to lossless).

assJack1
01-02-10, 03:02 PM
Nah, it didnt work I have yet to succeed in converting my M2TS to MKV. I've tried a lot of things but none worked. I think I have installed too many dll's and stuff.

I'll try again next weekend ...

Burnerbum
01-02-10, 04:02 PM
If Total Media Extreme would let me save the file in Mpeg, Mkv or AVI I wouldn't be going through this to begin with.

There is a program out there for the Mac that saves the file in m2ts and mpeg at the same time when using the Hauppauge. I'm thinking now it might be worth buying a MacMini before i pull all my hair out.....

assJack1
01-02-10, 05:01 PM
Burner:

I too have TME. Lousy piece of software - but the only thing that I use to capture from my Hauppauge 1212.

I'm learning as I go. Files come out of the software as M2TS, but are really TS. So far tsMuxer is the closest I have come to success, makeMKV, mkvMerge, handbreak, and one or two others havent worked - yet.

This is crazy. But, I am still trying - not giving up yet.

taz291819
01-02-10, 11:02 PM
Seriously, you guys are trying way too hard. Use "eac3to", command line version, and it'll work.

assJack1
01-03-10, 08:21 AM
taz291819:

Yes, I tried eac3to (command line). I used the command...

eac3to z.TS z.MKV


EAC3TO>eac3to z.ts z.mkv
TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 0:02:26, 60i /1.001
1: h264/AVC, 1080i60 /1.001 (16:9)
2: AC3, 5.1 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB, -100ms
a02 Extracting audio track number 2...
v01 Extracting video track number 1...
a02 Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
a02 Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
a02 A remaining delay of -4ms could not be fixed.
v01 Muxing video to Matroska...
a02 Creating file "z - 2 - AC3, 5.1 channels, 384kbps, 48khz.ac3"...
Added fps value (30 /1.001) to MKV header.
Video track 1 contains 8732 fields.
eac3to processing took 27 seconds.
Done.


It really doesn't get any simpler than that. I get an mkv file with no audio. (Using WMP to play file). I was surprised. Did I miss some special switch?

Burnerbum
01-03-10, 09:47 AM
Another option, Does anyone know if there is software out there free or commercial that would work with the Hauppauge 1212 that would record in the format I want (MKV, MPG etc.). Thus eliminating these extra steps. I don't mind buying software that does what i need and want and saves me all this time converting files.

taz291819
01-03-10, 09:59 AM
taz291819:

Yes, I tried eac3to (command line). I used the command...

eac3to z.TS z.MKV


EAC3TO>eac3to z.ts z.mkv
TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 0:02:26, 60i /1.001
1: h264/AVC, 1080i60 /1.001 (16:9)
2: AC3, 5.1 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB, -100ms
a02 Extracting audio track number 2...
v01 Extracting video track number 1...
a02 Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
a02 Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
a02 A remaining delay of -4ms could not be fixed.
v01 Muxing video to Matroska...
a02 Creating file "z - 2 - AC3, 5.1 channels, 384kbps, 48khz.ac3"...
Added fps value (30 /1.001) to MKV header.
Video track 1 contains 8732 fields.
eac3to processing took 27 seconds.
Done.


It really doesn't get any simpler than that. I get an mkv file with no audio. (Using WMP to play file). I was surprised. Did I miss some special switch?

Yep, try this:

eac3to z.ts 1: z.mkv 2: z.ac3

Then use mkvMerge to combine the two files.

assJack1
01-03-10, 04:57 PM
Ok. Got it to work sort of.

The 1212's TS right into PS3 plays fine. The MKV that I made using your instructions (thanks), has the video out of sync by about 50%. I am still sorting this out, but I am a lot closer than before.

One thing is that my fast computer is not available and I am using an older laptop. I suspect that it may be the culprit during playback.

taz291819
01-04-10, 10:04 AM
Ok. Got it to work sort of.

The 1212's TS right into PS3 plays fine. The MKV that I made using your instructions (thanks), has the video out of sync by about 50%. I am still sorting this out, but I am a lot closer than before.

One thing is that my fast computer is not available and I am using an older laptop. I suspect that it may be the culprit during playback.

It's got to be the older laptop. I've made maybe 100 or so MKVs using this method, and never had audio sync issues.

assJack1
01-17-10, 07:51 AM
It's got to be the older laptop. I've made maybe 100 or so MKVs using this method, and never had audio sync issues.

taz:

I don't know if you are following this thread anymore. Been busy the last few weeks, but I can report that everything works as you prescribed. Your help was much appreciated.


-A.J.

taz291819
01-17-10, 09:36 AM
taz:

I don't know if you are following this thread anymore. Been busy the last few weeks, but I can report that everything works as you prescribed. Your help was much appreciated.


-A.J.

Good deal!

NewPannyGuy
02-07-10, 02:15 AM
Thanks to all for the info about eac3to in this thread. I was able to rip a bluray (using AnyDVDHD) and create mkv files out of it using eac3to/mkvtoolnix. The mkv files play fine with mpchc on my HTPC, but when I play the same file on the Oppo BDP-83, it plays them in 4:3 AR only (basically image is "squished" horizontally with black bars showing on the sides). The original bluray plays fine on the Oppo. I'm a bit confused why would it do that since the video stream is exactly the same as the bluray. Anyone have any ideas if there is some option I can use in eac3to or mkvmerge to fix this problem?

guile42
02-07-10, 04:44 AM
Thanks to all for the info about eac3to in this thread. I was able to rip a bluray (using AnyDVDHD) and create mkv files out of it using eac3to/mkvtoolnix. The mkv files play fine with mpchc on my HTPC, but when I play the same file on the Oppo BDP-83, it plays them in 4:3 AR only (basically image is "squished" horizontally with black bars showing on the sides). The original bluray plays fine on the Oppo. I'm a bit confused why would it do that since the video stream is exactly the same as the bluray. Anyone have any ideas if there is some option I can use in eac3to or mkvmerge to fix this problem?

i convert mkv files usign total video converter, it might work for you.

fatherom
02-07-10, 11:31 AM
Thanks to all for the info about eac3to in this thread. I was able to rip a bluray (using AnyDVDHD) and create mkv files out of it using eac3to/mkvtoolnix. The mkv files play fine with mpchc on my HTPC, but when I play the same file on the Oppo BDP-83, it plays them in 4:3 AR only (basically image is "squished" horizontally with black bars showing on the sides). The original bluray plays fine on the Oppo. I'm a bit confused why would it do that since the video stream is exactly the same as the bluray. Anyone have any ideas if there is some option I can use in eac3to or mkvmerge to fix this problem?

Try the different aspect ratio settings on the Oppo.

Metric
02-07-10, 03:52 PM
heh :)

"re-encodes" :D

Just buy a bigger hard drive. Less than 10 cents a gig nowadays.

Not about cost, once you get into terabytes of data is the time involved moving it round and backing it up.

I bet 99.9% wouldnt be able to tell the different between a native blu-ray rip an 8-10gb h264 compressed version, even blown up on a big screen. Some of these movies just waste bitrate, polishing turds.

NewPannyGuy
02-08-10, 06:48 AM
Try the different aspect ratio settings on the Oppo.

Of course I already tried that and it didn't help. In fact, I think it is not even 4:3 AR it is displaying it in, it is probably 1:1. The problem is most likely a bug in the Oppo (the file itself should be good since it plays well on the HTPC). I was just wondering if anyone could suggest any settings in eac3to or mkvmerge that might generate a file with some different parameters. Oppo is a bit choosy in what files it wants to play and some different setting just might do the trick.

taz291819
02-08-10, 10:42 AM
Of course I already tried that and it didn't help. In fact, I think it is not even 4:3 AR it is displaying it in, it is probably 1:1. The problem is most likely a bug in the Oppo (the file itself should be good since it plays well on the HTPC). I was just wondering if anyone could suggest any settings in eac3to or mkvmerge that might generate a file with some different parameters. Oppo is a bit choosy in what files it wants to play and some different setting just might do the trick.

I don't believe there are any options in eac3to, since it doesn't transcode any video.

blackcell
02-09-10, 12:12 AM
You should give "Another EAC3to GUI Plus (http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17002)" a try. A few mouse clicks and yer done. It's a nice, simple GUI wrapper for Eac3to.

NewPannyGuy
02-09-10, 08:29 PM
I don't believe there are any options in eac3to, since it doesn't transcode any video.

Not sure what you mean there are no options in eac3to. It has a few options for video and a whole bunch of them for audio processing (and mkvmerge has a bunch of options too). Even though it does not transcode video, still the container is changed from m2ts to mkv and surely it is the container which the Oppo doesn't like since it plays the same video stream directly from the bluray perfectly.

Anyway, I guess I was being lazy (and greedy) to see if someone could give me ready made options to try. I'll try the available options and report back if anything helped.

taz291819
02-10-10, 10:56 AM
Not sure what you mean there are no options in eac3to. It has a few options for video and a whole bunch of them for audio processing (and mkvmerge has a bunch of options too). Even though it does not transcode video, still the container is changed from m2ts to mkv and surely it is the container which the Oppo doesn't like since it plays the same video stream directly from the bluray perfectly.

Anyway, I guess I was being lazy (and greedy) to see if someone could give me ready made options to try. I'll try the available options and report back if anything helped.

Of course there are options, I meant that I don't believe there are any options regarding aspect ratio flags.

120inna55
05-28-10, 07:27 AM
I realize I'm digging up an old thread, but I thought this was the most appropriate place for my question.

...I am having one huge problem, however. None of the commercial, "one click" reencoding programs seem to offer a feature that enables you to select the audio track among those several which may be offered in the .m2ts video file. The reencoding programs default the selection to the first of the audio tracks, which may or may not be the English track, or may be the track which has Director's comments, if available. Does anyone here know of an .m2ts capable reencoding program, which can reencode to .mkv, and which ALLOWS SELECTION OF THE AUDIO TRACK WANTED?

I, too am looking for a "one click" solution to converting M2TS to MKV. I found the following which does claim to allow you to select the audio file. Does anyone here have experience with this program?: http://www.icoolsoft.com/m2ts-converter/

Thanks!

CRT Dude
05-29-10, 07:01 AM
If you simply want to remux tsMuxeR (http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html).

120inna55
05-29-10, 07:08 AM
If you simply want to remux tsMuxeR (http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html).

Ummmm....no. I want to convert M2TS to MKV. I downloaded the trial of the aforementioned icoolsoft M2TS converter and discovered it only goes up to 720p.

msgohan
05-29-10, 09:09 PM
Ummmm....no.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of (re)mux/multiplex before you decide that someone's helpful suggestion is not what you're looking for.

Any "conversion" of M2TS to MKV is going to involve demuxing the M2TS into elementary streams and then muxing into the MKV container. It may also involve video/audio re-encoding in between if the program supports it and you want that.

tsMuxeR allows you to remux to MKV from a variety of containers including M2TS and lets you choose which streams you'd like to keep including any audio or subtitle tracks. It can also do things like converting DTS-HD to DTS as part of the process.

You never specified whether you also want to re-encode the video.

120inna55
05-29-10, 11:02 PM
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...I am having one huge problem, however. None of the commercial, "one click" reencoding programs seem to offer a feature that enables you to select the audio track among those several which may be offered in the .m2ts video file. The reencoding programs default the selection to the first of the audio tracks, which may or may not be the English track, or may be the track which has Director's comments, if available. Does anyone here know of an .m2ts capable reencoding program, which can reencode to .mkv, and which ALLOWS SELECTION OF THE AUDIO TRACK WANTED?

I, too am looking for a "one click" solution to converting M2TS to MKV. I found the following which does claim to allow you to select the audio file. Does anyone here have experience with this program?: http://www.icoolsoft.com/m2ts-converter/

Thanks!


Perhaps you should look up the definition of (re)mux/multiplex before you decide that someone's helpful suggestion is not what you're looking for...

I meant no offense. I've read this entire thread. txmuxer has been brought up several times. It obviously takes some know-how and several steps. I quoted Mummyscurse who was looking for a one-click solution. I was searching for such a solution as well. Hence the reason I used the term "converter".

I do appreciate your constructive input, though.

0hmyg0d
06-25-10, 02:46 AM
It's got to be the older laptop. I've made maybe 100 or so MKVs using this method, and never had audio sync issues.

bro, i stil cant figure out how to use eac3to... i've downloaded it but can u pls guide me step by step... i duno where to key in the command line..
btw, my m2ts is 1080i bd60

Smalldog
07-20-10, 06:28 PM
I thought this process was really easy; granted I was not doing anything fancy. Also, assumes that you have the Haali muxer installed.

I used eac3to like this:
eac3to.exe c:\images\movie c:\temp\movie.mkv

(c:\images\movie is the path the a blu-ray disc that I ripped)

The above created c:\temp\movie.mkv as well as some additional files with the audio, subtitles. The audio file had the extension .dts

The next thing I did was to run MKVMerge like this:
mkvmerge.exe -o finalmovie.mkv c:\temp\movie.mkv c:\temp\movieaudio.dts

The result was a MKV file called finalmovie.mkv which was had the audio stuck back into the container.

Smalldog

enron29
01-02-12, 12:44 AM
So, I have been trying to use tsMuxer to demux my m2ts files, and then using mkvmerge to create the mkv file. However, this is really not decreasing the size of the files, as the h264 video files are still rather large, and comparable to the 20+GB m2ts files I have. Am I missing something? I got the WD Livewire Powerline in hope of streaming my videos, but it wasn't working with my m2ts files, so I was hoping making them into mkv's might help. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

wmcclain
01-02-12, 08:38 AM
So, I have been trying to use tsMuxer to demux my m2ts files, and then using mkvmerge to create the mkv file. However, this is really not decreasing the size of the files, as the h264 video files are still rather large, and comparable to the 20+GB m2ts files I have. Am I missing something? I got the WD Livewire Powerline in hope of streaming my videos, but it wasn't working with my m2ts files, so I was hoping making them into mkv's might help. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

Neither tsmuxer or mkvmerge do any additional compression, so result files of the same size is expected. You'd have to use something like Handbrake to compress them further.

-Bill

Qaq
01-17-12, 07:44 AM
New mkvmerge supports m2ts directly, so you don't need to demux them anymore. mkv uses less tech info - saves ~5% of disk space. One file, compact container, signed tracks, chapters etc. But don't try to put VC-1 interlaced into mkv.

GGavin
01-28-12, 10:37 PM
Mkv has less overhead than m2ts so a 1:1 copy would be a little smaller.

I am testing converting my Blu-ray folder rips to mkv's to save space by getting rid of audio I don't need.

I was curious when I did a test and found a 37,137,524,736 byte m2ts file converted to a 34,373,169,725 byte MKV.

For the test I used all audio tracks. is MKV really 7% more effecient at packing the same data or did I do something wrong. I am testing with dvdfab blu-ray ripper with mkv.remux profile.

Seegs108
01-29-12, 08:13 AM
I am testing converting my Blu-ray folder rips to mkv's to save space by getting rid of audio I don't need.

I was curious when I did a test and found a 37,137,524,736 byte m2ts file converted to a 34,373,169,725 byte MKV.

For the test I used all audio tracks. is MKV really 7% more effecient at packing the same data or did I do something wrong. I am testing with dvdfab blu-ray ripper with mkv.remux profile.

Yes. It needs a LOT less headroom. Everything went fine.

GGavin
01-30-12, 05:49 AM
Thanks.