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GeorgeAB
07-07-09, 01:38 PM
Recent comments from Joe Kane about properly adjusting HDTVs: http://www.electronichouse.com/article/qa_joe_kane_digital_video_essentials/

D-6500
07-08-09, 04:09 PM
About halfway down Kane states, "Calibration includes brightness, contrast, color, sharpness, display resolution geometry; then there are ‘basic’ and ‘advanced’ test patterns.) "

If getting the basic five right is considered calibration as well as grayscale according to Kane, I'm in! There's folks on here that I group into "camps".

You have the "sharpnessdownniks"(sharpness turned down as a matter of course), and the "Notacalibrationistas"(who consider getting the basic five set right to be just a "tuneup" and not a real calibration!)

If Joe Kane says it - it's GOSPEL as far as this forum and calibration in general are concerned.

Thanks George - great to hear from the master himself!

GeorgeAB
07-08-09, 05:02 PM
About halfway down Kane states, "Calibration includes brightness, contrast, color, sharpness, display resolution geometry; then there are ‘basic’ and ‘advanced’ test patterns.) "

If getting the basic five right is considered calibration as well as grayscale according to Kane, I'm in! There's folks on here that I group into "camps".

You have the "sharpnessdownniks"(sharpness turned down as a matter of course), and the "Notacalibrationistas"(who consider getting the basic five set right to be just a "tuneup" and not a real calibration!)

If Joe Kane says it - it's GOSPEL as far as this forum and calibration in general are concerned.

Thanks George - great to hear from the master himself!
You're welcome. However, as usual, such analysis is faulty. Please, keep in mind anything presented from an interview, by any form of the media, or anything said anywhere on the internet, is frequently misquoted or misinterpreted by the author. The parenthesis you mention may have been supplied by the author/interviewer, rather than Joe Kane. It's certainly available to draw your own conclusions without expressing them here. "GOSPEL" is hardly appropriate.

D-6500
07-08-09, 06:10 PM
You're welcome. However, as usual, such analysis is faulty. Please, keep in mind anything presented from an interview, by any form of the media, or anything said anywhere on the internet, is frequently misquoted or misinterpreted by the author. The parenthesis you mention may have been supplied by the author/interviewer, rather than Joe Kane. It's certainly available to draw your own conclusions without expressing them here. "GOSPEL" is hardly appropriate.

It's pretty obvious from the structure of the interview that Kane said it. The interviewer asks questionsIn bold, and Kane's answers are in regular text. Any reasonable person would make that conclusion.

But I'm sticking with it - Basic calibration = five user controls and selecting correct color temperature from menu settings.

Advanced calibration includes the above plus what ISF calibrators are trained for - grayscale/geometry/etc.

Setting any controls on a TV(user/advanced/service level) via a pattern or measurement = calibration, at least for this average dumbbell.

Ratman
07-08-09, 06:55 PM
a) chicken McNuggets
b) Ron Popiel rotisserie... set it and forget it.
c) a gourmet meal

What ever makes you happy and fits your budget.

bodosom
07-09-09, 09:26 AM
It's pretty obvious from the structure of the interview that Kane said it. The interviewer asks questionsIn bold, and Kane's answers are in regular text. Any reasonable person would make that conclusion.

And what you mention is in italics and labeled note: besides having a syntactic structure which invalidates your assumption. But don't let details keep you from sticking with it since the rest of us are unreasonable.

Lee Bailey
07-09-09, 09:53 AM
Here's some important comments from Joe Kane in that article as well:

"The challenge in properly setting up today’s sets involves learning to recognize right from wrong."

"If you’re lucky, some sets have a combination of options that will deliver a reasonably good picture."

The article is more about selling the DVE disc than anything else.

Just my 2 cents.

bodosom
07-09-09, 11:00 AM
The article is more about selling the DVE disc than anything else.


Of course. If DVE (or ISF or THX or ...) happens to help out the consumer that's a fortuituous side-effect of the bit about making money.

lcaillo
07-09-09, 08:44 PM
About halfway down Kane states, "Calibration includes brightness, contrast, color, sharpness, display resolution geometry; then there are ‘basic’ and ‘advanced’ test patterns.) "

If getting the basic five right is considered calibration as well as grayscale according to Kane, I'm in! There's folks on here that I group into "camps".

You have the "sharpnessdownniks"(sharpness turned down as a matter of course), and the "Notacalibrationistas"(who consider getting the basic five set right to be just a "tuneup" and not a real calibration!)

If Joe Kane says it - it's GOSPEL as far as this forum and calibration in general are concerned.

Thanks George - great to hear from the master himself!

Like most "gospel," what one takes away from it can vary greatly and the context in which it was said or written needs to be considered.

lcaillo
07-09-09, 08:47 PM
It's pretty obvious from the structure of the interview that Kane said it. The interviewer asks questionsIn bold, and Kane's answers are in regular text. Any reasonable person would make that conclusion.

But I'm sticking with it - Basic calibration = five user controls and selecting correct color temperature from menu settings.

Advanced calibration includes the above plus what ISF calibrators are trained for - grayscale/geometry/etc.

Setting any controls on a TV(user/advanced/service level) via a pattern or measurement = calibration, at least for this average dumbbell.

How about simply being clear about what one is doing rather than relying upon words which alone may have different meanings to different people. There are obviously degrees of precision involved with calibration regardless of what level at which you are discussing the matter. If one simply communicates the detail of what is done, then the context and scope is clear. Saying less with respect to calibration is often rather useless anyway.