The premier was a bit stupid for my taste. Having Artie travel down the tight rope through the warehouse was just silly. I had higher expectations on what this show could have been.

http://www.syfy.com/warehouse13/

I'll give it some more time, the leads seem to have pretty good chemistry and Myka is pretty easy on the eyes, a lot better looking than she seemed to be to me in the previews.

It beats nothing, and I didn't think it was all that bad, like I said above, the two leads seem to have good chemistry and that can go a long ways. I don't think it's going to ever be or was ever intended to be serious SciFi.

Yeah, I think this was intended to have more of a Eureka vibe to it; more of a lighthearted and silly sci-fi/fantasy show.

I wasn't all too impressed with it, but I don't have anything else to watch right now. I think I'll give it a couple episodes at least.

It did have problems but I will let it get its legs as the writers get more of a focus and the characters develop more. I remember how many ripped Sanctuary apart and the show got much better as its season progressed

they canceled stargate for this crap?!?

Ha.
I watched bits and pieces of it. Not my thing.
Cool to see the new logo bug or what not.

They didn't "cancel" stargate for this, they decided to create SG:U to change their target audience. Syfy is basically the same channel, except their priorities are now profits and good ratings rather than good television and real science fiction.

D'oh! Missed the premiere.

I'll watch it on Hulu, but you guys have lowered my expectations (not that they were very high to begin with)

D'oh! Missed the premiere.

I'll watch it on Hulu, but you guys have lowered my expectations (not that they were very high to begin with)

Unless you just want to watch it on Hulu, it's being repeated a bunch on Syfy, tonight at midnight, Friday at 4:00pm, 10:03pm, Sunday @ 11:30am, 11:00pm, Monday @ 2:00pm, 6:00pm ... not to mention it's going to be shown on UHD and USA, and that's only the HD channels.

^^ Oh yeah....forgot they rerun their shows ad-nauseum.

Just added it to my DVR schedule (for some reason, I almost always forget I can do that online....)

^^ Oh yeah....forgot they rerun their shows ad-nauseum.

Just added it to my DVR schedule (for some reason, I almost always forget I can do that online....)

I doubt the rest of the episodes will get run this much, but I think it's a good strategy for a Pilot, people will get a chance to see it this way, especially running it on USA, if it picks up any viewers from the repeats it's probably worth it. There have probably been a dozen chances to catch the Royal Pains pilot.

I caught a bit of this 'Eureka'-like bit'o'fluff, which was enough to know I won't be devoting any time to it (Fun for the whole family! Ugh.), but do plan to give the new 'Stargate: Universe' a shot. I'm encouraged by the advance notice of a darker, more "adult" Stargate. If they follow the same boring, by-the-numbers plotlines of the old Stargate series', however, I won't be watching long. We'll see what they come up with.

I'll give it a chance. Hard to figure out what direction they'll go. For the most part, it was very tame, seemingly for kids - then the guy douses himself with gasoline and sets himself on fire.

Hopefully it will head toward the darker side.

I haven't deleted the Series Link yet.

It appeared to be a combination of Indiana Jones, The Middleman, X-Files and Reaper (the vessel). I'm going to stick with it a while longer since shows like this need a little time to find their bearings. As others mentioned, I like the main characters---besides, there isn't an overwhelming amount of original programming available at the moment that appeals to me.

I remember how Sanctuary began and I almost gave up on that, but later episodes were actually pretty decent.

Syfy is basically the same channel, except their priorities are now profits and good ratings rather than good television and real science fiction.

Wow - what SciFi Channel were you watching? They've been focused on "profits and good ratings rather than good television and real science fiction" for quite awhile now. The rebranding doesn't bother me, and I do understand the desire for a corporation to "own" their brand, which they couldn't with Sci-Fi Channel.

As for Warehouse 13, I thought it fit perfectly into the vain of Eureka, and is a great lightweight summer series. I expect it will get decent ratings - I know I'll be watching it.

and I do understand the desire for a corporation to "own" their brand, which they couldn't with Sci-Fi Channel.

Would you rather own a new brand - or own a whole genre?

It sorta smelled of GE/NBC/Universal exec tampering like NBC did with "Heroes." Just check out the "Heroes" season one commentaries. Gotta keep the execs out of the editing and "rushes" rooms. It will probably be pretty "soft" in content otherwise. Bean counters don't make good story tellers.

I thought this was an entertaining show. Certainly not groundbreaking or execeptionally deep but the characters and actors playing them work well and the writing was good for a pilot. It certainly didn't NEED to be a 2 hour pilot but it's not like I was bored by the length.

In fact the only thing I found really hokey was the larger scale CG, those scenes certainly had a low rent feel to them and I don't feel that they are at all necessary to the story.

I'll keep watching this...generally it takes these shows a few eps to get going and I thought this was a decent start.

I found it to be a too much like the old "Friday the 13th" series. Instead of an antique shop it's a warehouse. I'll give it one or two more episodes but unless it moves in more of an 'Area 51' type direction I doubt I'll be watching it.

I wish they would do the Lost Room, it was rather bleak.

I suspect the Warehouse13 will wind up like the rest, get going real good and then get cancelled.

It is time to re run Farscape.

Forgot to add the steampunk keyboard/video phone was pretty cool.
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2009/07/warehouse_13_st.php

Its not SyFy....its Syfy.

Forgot to add the steampunk keyboard/video phone was pretty cool.
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2009/07/warehouse_13_st.phpI noticed that, but then I also thought that none of the stuff was technically "steampunk" because it was all electrically powered. It did look cool though.

The show reminded me a bit of the anime "Get Backers" with some other anime and sci-fi shows mixed in.

Its not SyFy....its Syfy.

When I look at that logo, intentional or not, it looks more like SyFy. Maybe it's the font they are using.

Of couse, this is a sign of the summer doldrums where we can debate the proper spelling of an idiotic name.

When I look at that logo, intentional or not, it looks more like SyFy. Maybe it's the font they are using.

Of couse, this is a sign of the summer doldrums where we can debate the proper spelling of an idiotic name.

Yes, it does, it's listed in the guide as Syfy, but the logo, doesn't have a cross on the f, it's more like a capital F, but it has a curved top, but the old SciFi also was curved at the top, but not as pronounced as the new logo.

I suspect the Warehouse13 will wind up like the rest, get going real good and then get cancelled.

3.5 million people watched it (one of the channel's best showings ever - behind only airings of Eureka and SG: Atlantis), so if it can retain a decent chuck of that in the coming weeks, it should be OK.

It's really hard to judge how well shows will do from premieres (especially cable ones). Being that SyFy (lol) has so few original properties to begin with, I suspect they will run whatever they have as long as possible.

Well, I don't think it will retain me. Pretty lame and occasionally annoying. Too much time establishing the warehouse was "BIG". Ok, we got it. Give me more plot and action not sweeping long shots of shelves.

According to IMDB this is going to air on Oxygen today at noon, then Bravo Friday morning and USA at midnight on Friday. Is this a new thing for NBCU channels? And why is it not airing on Universal HD?

According to IMDB this is going to air on Oxygen today at noon, then Bravo Friday morning and USA at midnight on Friday. Is this a new thing for NBCU channels? And why is it not airing on Universal HD?

As far as I know is is beeing shown on Universal HD along with a number of other NBC channels:
http://www.locatetv.com/tv/warehouse-13/season-1/6368514

I'll give it a chance. Hard to figure out what direction they'll go. For the most part, it was very tame, seemingly for kids - then the guy douses himself with gasoline and sets himself on fire.

Hopefully it will head toward the darker side.

The Pilot was kind of slow and "light" for my taste, but I am hoping that this show leans away from the fun for everyone and goes towards the darker side as well. For now its going to stay on Season record, holpefully after a few episodes it wil hit its stride.

I saw enough in it to know that I'll be sticking around for another week.

The previews - which we cannot discuss here, right? - also showed enough to enhance my interest.

The show has a lot of good guest starts lined up:

SCI FI's new one-hour dramedy adventure series Warehouse 13 has confirmed an all-star lineup set to make guest appearances throughout the first season including Battlestar Galactica's Tricia Helfer, Michael Hogan and Mark Sheppard; Gossip Girl's James Naughton; Roger Rees of Cheers; Eureka's Joe Morton, Erica Cerra and Niall Matter; Stargate Atlantis' Joe Flanigan and Ivan Sergei from Crossing Jordan.

http://www.andersonvision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132020:sci-fis-new-original-series-warehouse-13-enlists-guest-stars-tricia-helfer-michael-hogan-mark-sheppard-joe-flanigan-james-naughton-roger-rees-ivan-sergei-joe-morton-erica-cerra-and-niall-matter&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

I saw enough in it to know that I'll be sticking around for another week.

The previews - which we cannot discuss here, right? - also showed enough to enhance my interest.

Any preview shown immediately following the airing of the show is fair game for discussion.

Any preview shown immediately following the airing of the show is fair game for discussion.

Tricia Helfer is the enhancer of my interest, then. ;)

Watched it, liked it enough to watch the next one....

BUT please Syfy, make it available on Comcast HD OnDemand...only SD OnDemand now.

Nothing terribly exciting here, but it's summer, so I'll watch. I remember Joanne Kelly from an episode of Castle - cast as an unscrupulous writer. That's the only other show I've seen her in. What do you think - botox lips?

Nothing terribly exciting here, but it's summer, so I'll watch. I remember Joanne Kelly from an episode of Castle - cast as an unscrupulous writer. That's the only other show I've seen her in. What do you think - botox lips?

I'm guessing there's something other than God's work going on there, her upper lip has always been a subject of curiousity to me.

The show is fine given it's mission statement, dramedy science fiction, I'm sure I'll be watching all of them, at least this summer.

Nothing terribly exciting here, but it's summer, so I'll watch. I remember Joanne Kelly from an episode of Castle - cast as an unscrupulous writer. That's the only other show I've seen her in. What do you think - botox lips?

She's also Jeremiah's love interest in the second season, and was in the short lived 'Vanished' on Fox, as the politicians young wife who...vanished.

It's a fun show and as one reviewer (http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/iltw/2009/07/05/warehouse_13/index.html) notes, it's tough to do ernest SciFi now, a little humor can do a show good--one reason why Star Trek has usually fallen so flat for me--as previously shown with Eureka, and Stargate: Atlantis. Certainly the best prescription for the Summer blues.

I used to watch SciFi :p, back when they had some balls. Farscape was exceptional. They had lightning in a bottle with "The Dresden Files", but they keep blowing it by dumbing down every option. If you thought SG was quality, then the bar is far too low for me. I'm a SciFi fan, but give me some real intelligence and much better storytelling (production values would help too, but intelligence/storytelling first).

Warehouse 13 looks to provide the same kind of easy but uninspired storytelling opportunities as the Stargate series. The Stargates were incredibly formulaic, and SG1 deteriorated badly into self parody during the last years. Atlantis I totally dismissed until I was able to get it in HD. Then I got hooked on the lighting, which was some of the best on TV. It's amazing that an HD image and good hair light made the show so much more enjoyable for me.

Warehouse 13 has some potential as a summer diversion, if there's enough on-screen chemistry between McClintock, Kelly and Rubinek. I know there's a little more to Kelly than I saw in the 13 pilot, because her turn as the writer in Castle showed a lot more range. The directing for the pilot was probably more at fault than she was. McClintock could be OK, too. Rubinek is really a fine actor, but he's far from the prototypical leading man. I'd bet he gets frustrated not getting better parts than typically come his way.

I agree about the picture quality on Atlantis, it had some of the very best looking HD I've ever seen.

The sets on Atlantis were visually much more interesting than Stargate Command, and they lent themselves to the excellent lighting. The bigger Warehouse sets are mostly virtual, so I'm not nearly as hopeful for them. Looks like most of the action is going to take place in other locations, though. That's a plus.

Would you rather own a new brand - or own a whole genre?

Fair enough question - although I don't think NBCU has any real competition in the Sci-Fi genre. I agree with most of the comments here - I'd love to see some really good, adult science fiction on TV - but neither SciFi nor Syfy has generally been the place to find it, with a handful of notable exceptions. So, I'll enjoy it for what it is.

Fair enough question - although I don't think NBCU has any real competition in the Sci-Fi genre. I agree with most of the comments here - I'd love to see some really good, adult science fiction on TV - but neither SciFi nor Syfy has generally been the place to find it, with a handful of notable exceptions. So, I'll enjoy it for what it is.

These moves all make sense when viewing the channel as a standalone entity - and clearly the SciFi execs are judged based on the same generic criteria applied to all of NBC/U's cablenets.

Where it makes much less sense is looking at it from the standpoint of NBC/U's overall offering. They could lock up the whole genre if they were willing to accept a potential hard cap on the number of total viewers. But they would be solid viewers that consider the channel a "must-have" channel. Not a viewer base made up of groups that are interested in small segments of the programming. Those are viewers that don't focus on the value of the channel - they pinpoint individual shows that they are interested in. Those are the kind of viewers that you have to invest much more in original programming in order to keep them interested in the channel.

If you can become a "must-have" channel for 4 or 5% of households, you have all the leverage you need with the MSOs.

NI remember Joanne Kelly from an episode of Castle - cast as an unscrupulous writer. That's the only other show I've seen her in.

DRESDEN FILES (the vampire nightclub owner)

I just figured out where I know Pete from, he was a love interest of Bones. He was Agent Sullivan(Sully) for a short arc on Bones.

I found it to be a too much like the old "Friday the 13th" series. Instead of an antique shop it's a warehouse.

I DVR'd this and just watched it tonight. It immediately reminded me of the old Friday The 13th series. This could be fun.

I enjoyed it for what it was; mindless, entertaining fun. Saul Rubinek is a fine character actor who should be able to hold this together. I hope we learn a bit more about Mrs. Frederic and the "door" she came through.

Certainly has the Friday the 13th-The Series feel to it and I enjoyed that one, so I will be watching this one. Not much else on during the summer anyway.

Doug

I liked it, like others said, it is summer and nice to see something new.

Mike

Pretty lame and occasionally annoying. Too much time establishing the warehouse was "BIG". Ok, we got it. Give me more plot and action not sweeping long shots of shelves.

Sweeping long shots of shelves...

Lol

Judging from these comments and the initial rating, looks like Syfy might have them another 'Eureka' on their hands; that is, a modest success. A little too silly, a bit too light & fluffy for me (as is 'Eureka'). I won't be back. But I will give the new Stargate franchise a look, as it's rumored to be darker than it's formulistic predecessors. I do love me some dark. ;) And, of course, 'Caprica' will be must-see-stuff. The pilot was very encouraging, IMO. So, I won't be completely abandoning the channel but can't see myself dropping in very often, as has been the case for the last half-dozen years. Rebranding? Meh. "Serious" sci-fi is still a rare thing on Syfy, and apparently will be for some time to come.

I liked it (given growth/refinement), the wife meh'd it.

The Dresden Files could have been awesome, but probably not on SyFy.


v/r,
C-F

I got ROKU as my latest toy and watched this as a Free showing from an Amazon download. HD and no commercials.

Hated it....schlocky special effects....as mentioned has a "been there, done that" friday the 13th feel....Deleted from prioritizer list.

Another summer stinker!

Artie played a role on ST:TNG where he faked Data's death and then put him in his personal collection of "unique" collectables. I guess the writers are just expanding on that idea. :(

Well I see the instant gratification folks have made their minds up on the entire series by watching the premier episode.

Wow, no wonder shows do not get much of a chance to shape theirselves.

Seinfeld would have lasted 3 weeks in todays I want it all now mindset.

Of course we will have the few that always say they are not going to watch it and then post each week how much they hate it.

My wife and I both thought it was fun and look forward to more episodes. I love gritty scifi like BSG, but I also love the fun stuff like this, Stargate and Eureka. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

Well, if you don't grab an audience on the first outing, you are not going to get or keep one. This was a one shot for me, I'm not planning on watching again. Looks like a 50/50 split here.

Well, if you don't grab an audience on the first outing, you are not going to get or keep one. This was a one shot for me, I'm not planning on watching again. Looks like a 50/50 split here.

It had good numbers for the first episode, we'll see what kind of retention it has. I liked it and will continue to watch it, but the number of viewers will be the determining factor.

I think this show has a lot of potential it takes a couple of episodes usually for me to get a feel for where a show is going you can never judge a show by its pilot episode(I think I am going to put this as my signature).

Well I see the instant gratification folks have made their minds up on the entire series by watching the premier episode.


In this particular case, it's pretty easy to get a good idea where this show is going from the pilot - light, fluffy sci-fi with humor derived from the mismatched leads and other colorful characters in the 'Eureka' mold. You either like that stuff or you don't. Based on initial ratings, there's no worry for its instant fans that it won't survive. It will. But it won't get "better" because it's already as good as it aspires to be. This isn't 'Dollhouse'; it's no work in progress.

If Syfy had wanted to do this same sort of concept in a more adult, intriguing fashion with more chills than chuckles, they would have picked up the far superior (IMO) 'The Lost Room'. They chose this instead.

So it came down to this show or The Lost Room? Did Syfy have a meeting where the merits of each were compared and studies made of potential viewers each would draw?

How are you privey to this inside info from Syfy if I may ask?

So it came down to this show or The Lost Room? Did Syfy have a meeting where the merits of each were compared and studies made of potential viewers each would draw?

How are you privey to this inside info from Syfy if I may ask?

Oh, sorry, I'm not. Just noticing that 'The Lost Room' simply disappeared from the network's radar after a well-received and reasonably successful initial airing of the pilot miniseries a few years back. And this show, built on a similar premise but carefully crafted around a conventional "dramady" procedural format, was greenlit.

I thought "The Lost Room" was awesome and I was very disappointed that it never reappeared. It was extremely well done.

Wow, what a bunch of pretentious babies are on this thread.

Waah Waah, this is isn't serious scifi.

Waah waah, Dresden Files/Lost Room was better.

How about we try to judge the show on it's own merits rather than whining about the shows that it's not.

By my count, most people really enjoyed this pilot, and it will be successful. The premise is interesting, the characters are pretty good, and the writing was good.

The fact that it's not set in NY or LA makes it so much more interesting than the 90% of other TV shows that are set in those cities.

Mike

From my understanding, people should be able to express their opinions as freely as they want on AVS without being called names - that is, if they don't engage in personal attacks. I liked Warehouse 13 well enough to keep watching. If I feel like comparing it to something else, that's my prerogative. It's also part of the fun of a thread like this. What isn't fun or appreciated is name calling and derision.

Remember to all those who watched the pilot and said they are not watching the series, tonight is the first real episode of the show and even though some of you said you are not watching this "garbage" be sure to watch tonight so you can tell us how bad it still is.

I like it. Although I'm a bit confused by the preview (or teaser) I saw which introduced another character that was no where to be found in this episode.

I don't like the filming style of this show. Too many extreme closeups which is so passe in the age of HDTV. They should sit the producers down to an episode of "Burn Notice" which does not use them much at all. I've never been a fan of "a close-up only your dentist would love" since I watched "The Prisoner" in the 1960s which rarely if ever used them and had a lot of master shots.

From some entertainers I once worked with who appeared in an episode of the original "Star Trek" I learned that those close-ups are used to reduce production costs as the actor doesn't have to do anything body wise and can even read lines off cue cards. But they look awful on a big screen HD set.

Tricia Helfer was a little unbelievable as an FBI agent. She should do more vampish roles like she did in BSG. She also worked out well in an episode of "Supernatural."

Nothing much in this episode to change my initial impressions. I think it's going to be pretty solid summer entertainment. Joanne Kelly got a little more to do. It'll take a few more episodes for the on-screen chemistry between her and Eddie McClintock to settle in, but it's pretty good, IMO. I thought Tricia Helfer did about as much with the FBI part as she could. There wasn't a lot to work with. I think she's a natural acting talent and will only get better the more roles she has.

Instead of robbing banks why did they not just use it at the place where he material was stored and just take it all?

Perhaps it was explained in the script but did not make it in the final draft. A lot of what we blame writers for actually is the fault of the director that cuts scenes and the like.

From the second episode it seems the show is taking a turn very potentially like Fringe.

Instead of robbing banks why did they not just use it at the place where he material was stored and just take it all?

Perhaps it was explained in the script but did not make it in the final draft. A lot of what we blame writers for actually is the fault of the director that cuts scenes and the like.

They explained that the reason they were robbing the specific banks that they were was because of the accoustics in them (think thats right). If they went in a small room I dont thinik they would be able to have the same effect on people (as we saw when they played the sounds in the office). The woman reacted since it was a memory triggered event (or something like that, they explained it in the show).

Also, if the stole the music diirectly I am thinking (hollywood style) that those closest to the musician would be some of the top suspects. If they robbed banks and bought the music anonomously then whos to know the actual buyer.

Not sure how I feel about this show yet, I am thinking they are going to stay with te light and fluffy overtone of the show which will take some getting used to. Ill stick with this show though until at least the end of the fist season unless they go totally overboard.

Not sure how I feel about this show yet, I am thinking they are going to stay with te light and fluffy overtone of the show which will take some getting used to. Ill stick with this show though until at least the end of the fist season unless they go totally overboard.

I can see Bones-like vibes developing, with some serious undertones. Myca's troubled relationship with her father is obviously headed somewhere. Plenty of opportunity for drama. If they can come close to achieving the kinds of relationships in Bones, I'll be happy.

Anybody that's interested in watching this show, it's on USA-HD tonight at 11:00pm and 1:00pm EDT. They are showing the pilot and the 2nd episode back to back.

Has any show on Syfy(SciFi) ever gotten this much exposure before? It's evidently working, the numbers just came out and were reported in the Hot off the Press thread that this week's episode got 3.4 million viewers and retained 97% of last week's viewers. That's impressive.

I like it. Although I'm a bit confused by the preview (or teaser) I saw which introduced another character that was no where to be found in this episode.

Who did you see? I didn't catch any new characters in the preview for next week. Although, I have heard rumors that another regular will be joining the cast soon.

Also, it will be interesting where the hacking story leads.

I saw this preview before episode 2 had aired.

To me it appeared be a young female technical support type. Somebody to help out with the hacking issue probably?

Found a promo pic that shows her:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/8cb10241252796

I saw this preview before episode 2 had aired.

To me it appeared be a young female technical support type. Somebody to help out with the hacking issue probably?

Found a promo pic that shows her:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/8cb10241252796

Wow! There's absolutely nothing I like about that shot - lighting (there's this thing called hair light you might want to investigate), facial expressions (yikes!), group dynamics (You say you want apathy? How about I give you a hint of 'It's-been-a-long-day-and-I-don't-want-to-do-this,' too? And how about a touch of "I-don't-know-any-of-these-people-and-why-did-you-ask-me-to-be-here-with-them?) And, Joanne Kelly should sue the photographer for defamation of character. If that was the best they could come up with from that photo shoot, they should have torched those shots and started over.

I saw this preview before episode 2 had aired.

To me it appeared be a young female technical support type. Somebody to help out with the hacking issue probably?

Found a promo pic that shows her:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/8cb10241252796

Yeah, that's the new one I heard about. She used to be on 'Drake and Josh.' (hey, I have tweens in the house :o ).

Once was enough!

The sparks are starting to fly with the characters, don't you think? This was fun - particularly effective for a 3rd episode. The personalities are started to look more 3 dimensional already.

The sparks are starting to fly with the characters, don't you think? This was fun - particularly effective for a 3rd episode. The personalities are started to look more 3 dimensional already.

Yeah, they're pretty good together, I laughed when they were talking to Artie on the portable CRT thing and Myka kept on about I told him it wasn't the watch and Pete replied 'That's not annoying at all' ... :D

The chair did it :p

I thought this was a step backwards. The constant bickering between the leads was way over the top and what was the story with the nun diving off two buildings and not being injured in a serious way? I thought to myself at the time that the artifact must be breaking her fall but to say she hit a snowbank and a car broke her fall the first time and she was not seriousy hurt was a bit too much.

I thought this was a step backwards. The constant bickering between the leads was way over the top and what was the story with the nun diving off two buildings and not being injured in a serious way? I thought to myself at the time that the artifact must be breaking her fall but to say she hit a snowbank and a car broke her fall the first time and she was not seriousy hurt was a bit too much.

Yeah, the do stretch the believability pretty thin. :)

That said, I think all the bickering between Myca and Pete was just a part of the process of defining the relationships among the main characters. When we look back on these first shows with a season's worth of hindsight, we'll say that the things they did and said were "out of character." In fact, the actors (and the writers) will be refining those characters over the coming weeks. Some things will work and some won't. Overall, though, I thought the characters were much more interesting this week than the past two. Joanne Kelly's character was pretty flat before last night. The sparks between her and Eddie McClintock worked better for me than what they did with the characters in the first 2 episodes.

One thing I like is the playful "us vs Artie" dynamic that's developing - making him believe they had destroyed his car. It reminds me a little of the therapy sessions between Sweets, Bones and Booth, where they take shots at the therapy process and the "authority" he has over them. It'll be interesting to see how they continue that thread.

Artie and Mrs. Frederic's daughter (Leena, the hotel caretaker) has already spotted the love aura between Myca and Pete. Think about the conversation between these two while sitting on the couch. Also, I felt that the artifacts in the warehouse are feeding the hostile exchanges between the two principles. Artie has already said that some of the pieces feed on negative emotions.

I'm liking it so far. There were a few scenes where I was wishing I was the paramedic.;)

Really cute that when the nun changed her tune a said she 'could' fly the priest and Myka left the room to converse. I suppose they wanted to get out of her flight path.

Unfortunately, I find I am liking this show---which usually means a death knell. If I thought it would help, I'd stop watching....but I'm so weak.

Considering this is SyFy, and considering their typical budgets, I think this one may actually have some staying power if the numbers hold up.

Unfortunately, I find I am liking this show---which usually means a death knell. If I thought it would help, I'd stop watching....but I'm so weak.

Considering this is SyFy, and considering their typical budgets, I think this one may actually have some staying power if the numbers hold up.

Numbers are good so far, haven't seen this last episodes numbers, but I think the 2nd episode topped 3 million, which is good by Syfy standards, I think Eureka is holding over or around 2 million even on Friday nights. I think we're in good shape for the numbers, if they came back for ep 2, I figure they came back for 3 also.

I agree, Peter. This show can work with limited special effects, and if the chemistry between the characters holds up, there's no reason for it not to do well. I don't think it's going to take too long for them to find the "voices" for their characters.

I'm liking the show so far, it's sort of like a combination of that TV movie series "The Librarian" and "Bones" with a few other things sprinkled in. Not very creative, but still a lot of fun to watch.

Numbers are good so far, haven't seen this last episodes numbers, but I think the 2nd episode topped 3 million, which is good by Syfy standards, I think Eureka is holding over or around 2 million even on Friday nights. I think we're in good shape for the numbers, if they came back for ep 2, I figure they came back for 3 also.

See now, there you go getting my hopes up :D

Actually, that is good news.

I agree, Peter. This show can work with limited special effects, and if the chemistry between the characters holds up, there's no reason for it not to do well. I don't think it's going to take too long for them to find the "voices" for their characters.

For me, I have to actually like characters, and sometimes that takes a little time. Rarely, a show just grabs me from the beginning (Middleman did that). I already like the interaction between the three leads, so that's a good sign.

I thought Reaper did a great job with a limited SFX budget...and I think WH13 could do the same.

For me, I have to actually like characters, and sometimes that takes a little time. Rarely, a show just grabs me from the beginning (Middleman did that). I already like the interaction between the three leads, so that's a good sign.

I thought Reaper did a great job with a limited SFX budget...and I think WH13 could do the same.

Middleman and Sarah Connor were my two biggest disappointments on shows not getting another season. I've always kept an eye out for some Middleman reruns/replays, but so far no go. I didn't have HD until a few episodes in on Middleman and when I got it, they had a lot of audio dropouts. I wish ABC Family would just run one good marathon for the Middleman, so I could archive it. I don't think the DVD is even Blu-ray :(

... I don't think the DVD is even Blu-ray :(

It isn't.

We are enjoying this show. Pretty good overall.

My wife and I really enjoy the show as well. It's a winner.

I don't really know if this is good news or bad- but my 70 year old Mom likes this show too. We watched it "on demand" when I visited last week.

(Of course, she doesn't have a dvr, and doesn't know how to find it in the channel guide or on demand to be able to continue watching it.... guess I will have to visit more often?)

She likes the fellow who stays at the wharehouse..... she always was a sucker for younger men.....

Judy

Enjoyable episode. Seems that the hacker storyline might become prominent soon. Hope it will not be a season long arc. Hope to see more of CCH Pounder in the coming weeks.

Doug

Good point. I don't think it will be season long, though. Speaking of which, how many episodes comprise a "season" on Syfy??

Well, to answer my own question Google turned up only 8 episodes. I wonder how much steam it can build by the end of its first season.

This article says Warehouse 13 is greenlit for 11 eps. (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/09/19/warehouse-13-opens-its-loading-dock/)

TV.com has 10 shows and their titles in its episode guide. (http://www.tv.com/warehouse-13/show/75313/episode.html)

Thanks for the update Joseph. That should be a good start, and I look forward to more.

Next week episode should be interesting as they introduce a new character to the show.

SPOILER ALERT!!

Allison Scagliotti ("Drake & Josh") is Claudia Donovan, a young, hip, brilliant techno wiz who manages to successfully breach the Warehouse’s complex security system, ultimately persuading Artie to let her stay and help with their missions.

Next week episode should be interesting as they introduce a new character to the show.

Well, my guess was correct after the 'quote' revealed the spoiler. Wonder what they'll do with Myka and Pete's old boss?

Great show, I'm pleasantly surprised. Hopefully Syfy (ugh..) will produce more good show to add to their anemic schedule.

Warehouse 13 started about 3 minutes before 9:00 pm tonight, that's ridiculous, ending late is bad enough, but to start the show 3 minutes or so early is definitely not a good move. So, if you're recording you might want to record the later showing(it may start early too, who knows)...

Maybe you're just 3 mins in the future?

Maybe you're just 3 mins in the future?


Luckily, I have a Durational Spectrometer. :) I thought tonight's episode was the best one so far. I liked Claudia.

Agreed. Good episode. And solid acting from a young actor. She could be a scene stealer.

Warehouse 13 started about 3 minutes before 9:00 pm tonight, that's ridiculous, ending late is bad enough, but to start the show 3 minutes or so early is definitely not a good move. So, if you're recording you might want to record the later showing(it may start early too, who knows)...

It did? Grr... I have to check the DVR. I hate when they do that. Thanks for the heads up.

It did? Grr... I have to check the DVR. I hate when they do that. Thanks for the heads up.

I think it did, I just happened to be on the channel when it started and noticed that the time was about 8:57, the episode was about 43:34 tonight, that's about a minute longer than normal. I can't believe they did that, but they sure did.

Anybody watch Party Down on Starz? That's Claudia Donovan(Allison Scagliotti) on the right.
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Tonights show was a good one. Not sure about the 3 minute time shift (Mrs. Frederic, perhaps?) but my DVR recorded the whole show, start to finish.

My scheduled WH13 recording started and stopped as usual. No early start, no extra time added. I was not moving very fast as I watched, so relativity probably did not come into play.

Warehouse 13 started about 3 minutes before 9:00 pm tonight, that's ridiculous, ending late is bad enough, but to start the show 3 minutes or so early is definitely not a good move. So, if you're recording you might want to record the later showing(it may start early too, who knows)...

My recording started on the hour and nothing was missed so I am not sure what to make of this?

My recording started on the hour and nothing was missed so I am not sure what to make of this?

Same here. No recording problems.

I don't know guys, I certainly did not get the first two or three minutes, my recording started with Artie on the floor, my recording missed the entire opening 'Previously on Warehouse 13' opening sequence, and didn't even get the Monkey phlegm in your ear and that's not phlegm exchange. :confused:

I think the satellite went out for 3 or 4 minutes between 8:00 and 9:00pm and maybe the internal timer or something got out of whack on the DVR, I caught it all and so did everyone else apparently.

This is encouraging.:)

"The fourth episode of Syfy's new original series Warehouse 13 recorded new series-high audiences in both adults aged 25-54 (1.8 million) and 18-49 (1.4 million), the network reported.

The episode, entitled "Claudia," featured Allison Scagliotti as the newest team member. It delivered a 2.4 household rating and 3.3 million total viewers.

This is better than last week's new episode by 36 percent in adults 25-54 and 31 percent in adults 18-49 and tops the previous highs set by the July 7 series premiere by 6 percent in both adults 18-49 and adults 25-54.

Warehouse 13 was the top scripted drama in cable on Tuesday night in both key demographics, beating TNT's new episodes of Hawthorne and Saving Grace, among others."

Will I though ep 3 was weak, I really liked ep 4. They retained the humor between the leads but cut down on the constant bickering from ep 3 which was a relief. Again they laid out some hints about previous "employes" of the warehouse 13 group that died/disappeared problay due to artifacts.

I have been enjoying the series but have not liked the bickering between the two main characters. It had a Bones feel to the show when there was the bickering.

I have been enjoying the series but have not liked the bickering between the two main characters. It had a Bones feel to the show when there was the bickering.

I think that the bickering is the writers' way of depicting sexual tension.

I must be alone on this one, but I think the bickering is a lot of fun, and it seems evident they both like each other a lot and seem to be bonding more each week. I definitely think I'm going to like the new girl, Claudia. She was great, and for a change I liked the Artie character, he seemed a bit more human this week.

I'm liking the show more and more, I think the characters and chemistry is very good, I didn't think Artie was that great a fit, but I think Claudia is going to make him a lot more likable or at least expose his personality a bit more.

You're not alone, I think the bickering adds a lot to the show, the show is not meant to be dark and serious, it's far too silly for that, it's just fun light-hearted entertainment.

Like the new character as well, I think we're going to see more and more of this actress in the future, she seems to have that special something.

I like WH13, too, and I enjoy the banter between Myca and Peter. It's an entertaining show and good summertime fun. I look forward to it.

I'm wondering if we'll ever see Leena and Mrs. Frederic in the same room? I'm currently betting (which means I'll be wrong) they're the same person.

Did a quick web search and found some people thinking they're mother & daughter.

I'm wondering if we'll ever see Leena and Mrs. Frederic in the same room? I'm currently betting (which means I'll be wrong) they're the same person.

Yeah ... that thought crossed my mind too.

They have said that Mrs. Frederic has never aged. We did see some pictures from years ago and she looks exaclty the same.

I'm wondering if we'll ever see Leena and Mrs. Frederic in the same room? I'm currently betting (which means I'll be wrong) they're the same person.

Did a quick web search and found some people thinking they're mother & daughter.
According to TV.com, Mrs. Frederic is played by CCH Pounder

They have said that Mrs. Frederic has never aged. We did see some pictures from years ago and she looks exaclty the same.

Richard Alpert's mom? Does she use eyeliner? :p

According to TV.com, Mrs. Frederic is played by CCH Pounder

I remember her from the show Millennium (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115270/). She played Dr. Cheryl Andrews.

I remember her from the show Millennium (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115270/). She played Dr. Cheryl Andrews.

She is also from The Shield (where I assume more people would know her from).

I have only watched 2 1/2 eps (fell asleep last night during the 3rd episode). I'm not overly impressed, but am going to watch the rest that I have recorded. I usually give new shows 4-5 eps to get their footing.

So far, it's ok....mediocre IMO. And I'm not sure I want to invest in another mediocre show. I'll see if my opinion changes after I finish the 3rd and 4th. Maybe it'll grow on me.

I've never seen the Shield.:eek:

Just as a followup (because I know you care) I did finish what I had recorded. I'm in the "it's slightly above average" category. The whole show (IMO) has a been there, done that feel to it. The last episode especially, with the whole "caught between dimensions" vibe.

I'll probably keep it on my DVR for now, but I'm certainly not overly-excited about it. But it's good enough for me to give it a longer chance to grow on me.

I thought tonight's episode was a bit weak, not enough Claudia. We even had Shepard from Atlantis on, but I kept wanting to see more scenes with Claudia and Artie.

I finally figured out something that's been bugging me, sometimes when Myka talks she sounds just like Brandi(Mary's sister) on In Plain Sight.

It was emotionally flatter than usual. I gotta pay more attention to who's writing and directing these eps. Certainly not a great one, though.

If you're a Joe Flanigan fan, the first Blu-ray of "Stargate: Atlantis Fans's Favorites" was released Tuesday. Visually, it's an A+, IMO. I've always thought it set the standard for lighting on SciFi, and the cinematography was quite good, too. WH13 doesn't come off nearly as well in comparison.

This show is watchable, & it's seems the wife likes it, so we watch something together as well, , but it's very "scifi-lite" which bothers me a little....

Why aren't there teams of scientists, civilian & military, studying this stuff & harnessing some of it's technology, in what seems to be vast amounts of artifacts in this warehouse, (which, BTW, has no external Fence, attached base or guards & a single 90lb 20yr old girl can get in undetected)..

If perhaps the Sculler & Muldee characters weren't US Agents, but instead newly "chosen caretakers", of ancient magic artifacts, recruited by Osiris to find & hide them from the Gvmt & public.... Then at least some these plot holes would fit ...
Lets face it, they are going to be finding devices that allow Teleportation, cure sicknesses, store large amounts of power, control minds, stop cars, ect .. & all of them will just be shorted out in blue glop, & put on a dusty warehouse shelf instead of going straight to the country's best scientists... c'mon ..
One of the main things great about SG-1 was that all the technology they "found" on gate adventures was brought back, studied, used & copied by our scientists, so that by the last few seasons "our" U.S/Earth/military had beam weapons, FTL spacecraft, alternative power sources ect ...
It wasn't just "gate adventure of the week" season after season ...

This show is watchable, & it's seems the wife likes it, so we watch something together as well, , but it's very "scifi-lite" which bothers me a little....

Why aren't there teams of scientists, civilian & military, studying this stuff & harnessing some of it's technology, in what seems to be vast amounts of artifacts in this warehouse, (which, BTW, has no external Fence, attached base or guards & a single 90lb 20yr old girl can get in undetected)..

If perhaps the Sculler & Muldee characters weren't US Agents, but instead newly "chosen caretakers", of ancient magic artifacts, recruited by Osiris to find & hide them from the Gvmt & public.... Then at least some these plot holes would fit ...
Lets face it, they are going to be finding devices that allow Teleportation, cure sicknesses, store large amounts of power, control minds, stop cars, ect .. & all of them will just be shorted out in blue glop, & put on a dusty warehouse shelf instead of going straight to the country's best scientists... c'mon ..
One of the main things great about SG-1 was that all the technology they "found" on gate adventures was brought back, studied, used & copied by our scientists, so that by the last few seasons "our" U.S/Earth/military had beam weapons, FTL spacecraft, alternative power sources ect ...
It wasn't just "gate adventure of the week" season after season ...

Even though it is "scifi-lite," it's still good summer fun in my book. Nobody's going to confuse it for Battlestar Galactica, though, are they? WH13 definitely bends willing suspension of disbelief to its breaking point. :D

(which, BTW, has no external Fence, attached base or guards & a single 90lb 20yr old girl can get in undetected)..


I jaughed last week when they confidently stated that no one could get by the warehouse's security, and then they held up the broken/cut alarm switch.

Really? That's the best you can do? A manually activated switch under a desk? My neighbors growing up at least had a motion-sensing light in their backyard.

This show is watchable, & it's seems the wife likes it, so we watch something together as well, , but it's very "scifi-lite" which bothers me a little....
You mean Eureka is hard sci-fi? Warehouse 13 is meant to be in the same genre as Eureka, action, adventure, comedy. That's about it. There's not much serious there. I take it all in fun.

I just discovered Eureka and they're much the same kind of show. In a summer light on entertainment in general, they're just what the doctor ordered.

Next week, they're airing eps 4, 5 and 6, in case you missed one.

Next week, they're airing eps 4, 5 and 6, in case you missed one.

They are also running episodes 2, 3, 4, 5, 2, 3 tomorrow night starting at 7:00PM EDT and then running episode 5 again Friday night after Eureka.

You can't say they're not giving this show a chance to catch an audience. It's a bit of brick to the head approach to snagging viewers, though.

You can't say they're not giving this show a chance to catch an audience. It's a bit of brick to the head approach to snagging viewers, though.

No doubt, I wish they'd show Eureka a little love, I'd love to see Seasons 1 and 2 in HD for Eureka. They seem to always keep those on the shelf.

Even though it is "scifi-lite," it's still good summer fun in my book. Nobody's going to confuse it for Battlestar Galactica, though, are they?

Not to infect yet another thread, but BSG is *not* SciFi ... it is Theology 101 disguised as SciFi. :D

Not to infect yet another thread, but BSG is *not* SciFi ... it is Theology 101 disguised as SciFi. :D

:D LOL Good call!

Not to infect yet another thread, but BSG is *not* SciFi ... it is Theology 101 disguised as SciFi. :D

I kept thinking about your post as it relates to the term "Native American creation myths" used on the most recent episode of WH13. Battlestar Galactica probably would not have proven so popular had they come right out and called it "sci-fi looks at the Judeo-Christian creation myth," but BSG's take on polytheism, monotheism and creationism is similar to what's implied in the WH13 comments about Native American "creation myths."

Disclaimer: I'm making no judgments about Judaism, Christianity, religion, science or art. I'm not claiming that the creators of BSG are anti-Jew or anti-Christian, nor that the makers of WH13 are anti-Native American. As a person of faith and a sci-fi fan, I simply find the concepts sociologically interesting, and, incidentally, altogether appropriate as subject matter for science fiction.

Too bad I feel as though my disclaimer needs to be as long as my original post on the topic. :D

^ Actually quite appropriate.

We usually wind up in a minefield when a TV show (or movie for that matter) touches on theology (apparently "supernatural" is OK however). We butt against forum rules about discussing religion (a wise policy) versus trying to discuss the content in a non-threatening way.

Of course, for some people the very concept of a "god" is threatening. Generally speaking, as long as people take the high road and don't get into unwinnable arguments concerning deities or non-existence of same, discussions can be enlightening and enjoyable.

As for the last episode of WH13, I thought they did a fine job of taking one view of "How Things Are" and used to to tell a fairly interesting story.

Of course, for some people the very concept of a "god" is threatening.

LOL ... and for others, the mere suggestion that there might not be a "god" is even more threatening ... they've even been known to torture, maim and kill people who would dare to suggest such heresy. :rolleyes:

Okay, okay. Religious arguments on all three sides of the issue -- duly noted. I suspect a discussion forum which actually focuses on discussion of religious issues would be a better venue for the continuing of that debate. :)

^ Actually, no. AVS isn't the place to discuss dogma, catma or grandma. There are other forums for that. :D

The problem we typically run into is when an appropriate subject like an HD TV show, movie or blu ray touches on "religious" themes.

As long as people remain civil and respectful of different beliefs, and it doesn't degenerate into adolescent name calling or other attacks the thread will typically not get locked. However it is a slippery slope that ends in a minefield populated by blindfolded people on pogo sticks.

LOL ... and for others, the mere suggestion that there might not be a "god" is even more threatening ... they've even been known to torture, maim and kill people who would dare to suggest such heresy. :rolleyes:

I just watched "History of the World, Part 1". The Inquistition show number is very entertaining. So, as long as you treat heresy with a bit of dancing and singing I think we'll be ok. :)

I just watched "History of the World, Part 1". The Inquistition show number is very entertaining. So, as long as you treat heresy with a bit of dancing and singing I think we'll be ok. :)

Well you know what they say: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"

PS: "Always look on the bright side of life ... "

Or even;

"Every sperm is sacred!" :D

Finally got around to watching last week's episode. Thanks to fake wrestling, the show started 5 minutes late and hence I missed the last 5 minutes of the show. Thankfully they'll air it again tomorrow before the new episode.

Finally got around to watching last week's episode. Thanks to fake wrestling, the show started 5 minutes late and hence I missed the last 5 minutes of the show. Thankfully they'll air it again tomorrow before the new episode.

Yes, all of a sudden, Warehouse 13 is now starting WAY late because of wrestling, really ticked me off. Have to remember to extend the record now.

Yes, all of a sudden, Warehouse 13 is now starting WAY late because of wrestling, really ticked me off. Have to remember to extend the record now.

Out of curiosity, why are you guys watching the replay? The first run episode comes on before wrestling and then is replayed again after wrestling and again after Eureka on Friday nights and then again the next week before the new episode. Possibly several other times during the week, but the above airings seem to happen every week.

Out of curiosity, why are you guys watching the replay? The first run episode comes on before wrestling and then is replayed again after wrestling and again after Eureka on Friday nights and then again the next week before the new episode. Possibly several other times during the week, but the above airings seem to happen every week.

Maybe they had a recording conflict. I usually record the early version, but my recording last week was bumped to the late airing because of a conflict. I had the same issue they had with the late airing.

Out of curiosity, why are you guys watching the replay? The first run episode comes on before wrestling and then is replayed again after wrestling and again after Eureka on Friday nights and then again the next week before the new episode. Possibly several other times during the week, but the above airings seem to happen every week.

Yah, I grab the first run episode and I do not get a delay.

Another solid episode these week, and a new "villain". Interesting back information about Artie's past.

SFX in the airport caught me off guard. That sword really was sharp!

Another solid episode these week, and a new "villain". Interesting back information about Artie's past.

SFX in the airport caught me off guard. That sword really was sharp!

That was pretty cool, but they didn't quite explain how to un-split the light, drawing the sword the other direction doesn't really make sense. :p

^ I guess that's just the way magical swords work! :D

:p:D

Syfy has given a second-season order to "Warehouse 13."

Hourlong dramedy about Secret Service agents who investigate missing and newly found supernatural objects is the most-watched show in Syfy's 17-year history, averaging 3.7 million viewers a week and 1.4 million in the 18-49 demo.
Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007491.html?categoryid=14&cs=1)

Syfy has given a second-season order to "Warehouse 13."

Hourlong dramedy about Secret Service agents who investigate missing and newly found supernatural objects is the most-watched show in Syfy's 17-year history, averaging 3.7 million viewers a week and 1.4 million in the 18-49 demo.Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007491.html?categoryid=14&cs=1)


Good to hear, I hope they do up it to 20 episodes eventually,I'm also hoping they keep Eureka going.

Great news on the renewal!

It isn't surprising, but it is good news nonetheless.

It isn't surprising, but it is good news nonetheless.

Agreed, it has definitely been a slam dunk as far as renewal since about the 2nd show. It would be nice if they could keep us in some kind of SciFi scripted show(1 or 2) a week throughout the year, .

It was good to see "Robin Colcord" as the new villain. Also happy to read SyFy picked this up for another year. I find myself really enjoying this show.

It was good to see "Robin Colcord" as the new villain. Also happy to read SyFy picked this up for another year. I find myself really enjoying this show.

A "Cheers" reference. One of my all time favorites.

Yeah, without Warehouse 13 and Eureka, this summer would be a real sci fi wasteland. I'd like to see more Claudia. The ensemble is sorta small and the show would work even better with more supporting characters.

I'd like to see more Claudia. The ensemble is sorta small and the show would work even better with more supporting characters.

It was sorta odd that Claudia wasnt in this episode at all and we only got a passing reference as to why ("she's out"). It makes me wonder if this episode was shot before she was brought on board. She adds a lot to the show and it's a wonder to me that she's still listed as a guest star but Simon Reynolds has his name in the opening credits...Who is that anyways? the Secret Svc boss? He can be written out of the show anytime now.

If could also be that the Allison Scagliotti is only contracted for a certain number of episodes.

If could also be that the Allison Scagliotti is only contracted for a certain number of episodes.

Could be, but I remember reading an interview or 2 that sounded as though she was a permanent cast addition. She's the 4th cast member listed at the official site (behind Eddie, Joanne and Saul but ahead of Leena, the Secret Svc guy and Mrs. Fredericks) so I dunno what to make of her absence last ep.

Oh well, it wasn't a huge deal but I certainly feel that she makes the ensemble stronger as a whole so I hope she's in more eps than she isn't.

I'm sorry: I didn't make myself clear: What I was saying was that perhaps Allison Scagliotti is only contracted for a certain number of episodes per season. For example, Erica Durance has been a regular cast member of Smallville since Season 5 (after appearing only as a guest star in Season 4), but she only appeared in about 13 episodes per season, from Seasons 5 through 8. (She'll appear in 18 of the episodes next season.)

From what I can tell (don't quote me on this), Allison Scagliotti is only supposed to appear in 8 of the 13 episodes this season.

That's one way that television series keep costs in control, by having some supporting cast members only appear (and therefore only get paid for) a portion of the episodes.

So it's a 13 episode season for for Season 1 of Warehouse 13?

I read it was going to be 11. Did someone hear different?

yes, it's a 13 episode season, the two hour pilot counted as two episodes. It's always been 13 episodes as far as I know and it's been renewed for a 2nd season of 13 episodes. 12 or 13 is pretty much the norm for cable shows. The longer running more popular ones sometimes start adding more episodes per season.

yes, it's a 13 episode season, the two hour pilot counted as two episodes. It's always been 13 episodes as far as I know and it's been renewed for a 2nd season of 13 episodes. 12 or 13 is pretty much the norm for cable shows. The longer running more popular ones sometimes start adding more episodes per season.

But then they seem to split the season into two parts about 3-5 mos apart. To my recollection, Rescue Me is the only cablenet show that's running a straight through 22 ep season(April - September) and I'm pretty sure that's because they've been off the air for so long due to the strike.

But then they seem to split the season into two parts about 3-5 mos apart. To my recollection, Rescue Me is the only cablenet show that's running a straight through 22 ep season(April - September) and I'm pretty sure that's because they've been off the air for so long due to the strike.

yeah, they tend to do that, I don't really mind that too much, as long as they bring the 2nd half back in a reasonable amount of time. They seem to be splitting things up randomly, The Closer will run 15 straight and then have a couple around Christmas, they seem to vary all over the place. SciFi seemed to run the Stargates and even BSG with 10/10 split seasons. I can live with that stuff as long as the shows come back in a reasonable time, but the Eureka split season was terrible, we're now in what they're calling 3.5, but the .5 part didn't start until what should have really been about when Season #4 would have normally begun.

If WH13 continues getting good ratings, I'm sure they'll start extending the order, I kind of like the Christmas/New Year special things, Psych and Monk and The Closer have done that before.

I think the show is still searching for it's stride, I thought we had hit the ground running when Claudia came on the scene, but the show seems like it's regressing or something. I always considered it a light fun romp, but they keep trying to put in darker aspects that don't seem like a good fit. I'll stick it out, but even the Myka and Pete interactions don't seem as good as they were in the earlier episodes.

They're definitely trying to find their stride, but I thought tonight's episode was a step in the right direction. For me, the dynamics among the characters had more energy than any previous ep. It was the first time I felt all the characters clicking at once.

The thing that didn't work for me was Pete's deception in the Vegas hotel room and her return to Warehouse 13. The way that ending unfolded didn't work. I still think, though, that the characters started to feel more real. The story telling probably isn't strong enough to raise this show to a very high level, but if they can make the emotional bonds stronger, I'll be able to enjoy it. They did a fairly good job of that tonight. I especially liked Myca's opening up to Artie about the level of trust and openness she needs from him. I think there were at least a couple of moments like that for all the main characters.

They're definitely trying to find their stride, but I thought tonight's episode was a step in the right direction. For me, the dynamics among the characters had more energy than any previous ep. It was the first time I felt all the characters clicking at once.

The thing that didn't work for me was Pete's deception in the Vegas hotel room and her return to Warehouse 13. The way that ending unfolded didn't work. I still think, though, that the characters started to feel more real. The story telling probably isn't strong enough to raise this show to a very high level, but if they can make the emotional bonds stronger, I'll be able to enjoy it. They did a fairly good job of that tonight. I especially liked Myca's opening up to Artie about the level of trust and openness she needs from him. I think there were at least a couple of moments like that for all the main characters.

I'll probably like it better when I watch it again. I usually do. One thing though, I think Myka is a babe. :D

The thing that didn't work for me was Pete's deception in the Vegas hotel room and her return to Warehouse 13. The way that ending unfolded didn't work.

Yeah, the ending didn't quite gel. I did like the use of Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" as the evil Myka/Alice entered the warehouse.

One thing though, I think Myka is a babe. :D

Yes she is.;)

I'll probably like it better when I watch it again. I usually do. One thing though, I think Myka is a babe. :D

OK, so I had to check my email one last time before I go to bed and you remind me of that short black dress. How do you expect me to sleep now that my pulse is 120? :D

I did like the use of Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" as the evil Myka/Alice entered the warehouse.

Agreed. Best use of music to date.

I always considered it a light fun romp, but they keep trying to put in darker aspects that don't seem like a good fit.

One of the problems I have with nearly all Sci-Fi programming is the main tough guys skew more to comedy than to professionalism. It happens in every show, from O'Neill in SG-1 all the way up to Lattimer in WH13.

They all play the comedy angle too hard and they never convince me they are actually supposed to be professional military or law enforcement. From the way they walk into a room, or conduct themselves at a scene Sci-Fi have always made those characters far too relaxed and casual to be convincing as pros.

That's not to say they can't be both hardened professionals and also funny because we've seen that on other shows like X-Files, Bones, Supernatural ... even Casey on Chuck (which is a show played for laughs) is far more convincing as NSA.

Yeah, I laughed my frakkin' head off when Bill Adama got drunk and threw up on himself. I just couldn't take that guy seriously.

(Sorry. Couldn't resist. There's always the exception that proves the rule. I pretty much agree with you.)

Yeah, I laughed my frakkin' head off when Bill Adama got drunk and threw up on himself. I just couldn't take that guy seriously.

(Sorry. Couldn't resist. There's always the exception that proves the rule. I pretty much agree with you.)

I know what you mean, how can you take Adama seriously with a mustache like this? ;)

http://www.wright.edu/news_events/news/edward_james_olmos_sm.jpg

Where's Geraldo?

Did she take the magic chip into the Mirror, ..... the one that didn't give her any advance warning of what was/would go down in the warehouse?

I really enjoyed tonight's episode and the Moby song was great!
Looks like next week's episode in the Warehouse might be a good one.

I've been watching and it's an Ok show. But, to be honest, I would not watch it if there was anything else remotely interesting on.

Is anyone else as impressed with Joe Morton as I am? He can take an obviously minor role like the one in Warehouse 13 tonight and make it seem special. And there always seems to be such intelligence behind those expressive eyes and that wonderful voice - like he knows all sorts of things we regular folk won't ever figure out. There was some fairly good emotional content in tonight's episode, but Joe Morton, as always, stands apart from the rest.

Though back on Eureka, he's not alone. Colin Ferguson is very impressive in many of the same ways. He pulls off self-deprecating and compassionate like no other actor I know.

Though back on Eureka, he's not alone. Colin Ferguson is very impressive in many of the same ways. He pulls off self-deprecating and compassionate like no other actor I know.

Ain't that the truth. :)

Colin Ferguson has one of the most unusual ways of delivering a line - in a soft, gentle voice that seems to have more impact the quieter he gets. You see most actors go the other way - going for a laugh with a loud-is-funny delivery, or for serious with an angry-is-dramatic tone. Instead of yelling, Ferguson can be funny by delivering a line when it almost seems he's inhaling, and touching when you have to look really close to see the subtle change in his eyes. It's unique.

I think the show is still searching for it's stride, I thought we had hit the ground running when Claudia came on the scene, but the show seems like it's regressing or something. I always considered it a light fun romp, but they keep trying to put in darker aspects that don't seem like a good fit. I'll stick it out, but even the Myka and Pete interactions don't seem as good as they were in the earlier episodes.

The Mirror/Alice one was pretty good.

I felt last night's episode was the weakest of the series. Claudia was written as a very smart person, and now the writers have decided to dumb her down 30-40 IQ points.

Pretty soon they'll run out of Eureka actors to guest star and the show will have to stand on its own anyways.

I felt last night's episode was the weakest of the series. Claudia was written as a very smart person, and now the writers have decided to dumb her down 30-40 IQ points.But so much cuter!

:D

But so much cuter!

:D

No argument there! It did seem a little odd using her for some slapstick moments, but I thought it was fun to watch her.

Yeah, I like this version of Claudia. If "stupid is as stupid does" then sometimes my IQ is 6. :D

No offense, but it's always a surprise to me that such an insipid, generic, unimaginative show does well (relatively speaking) on cable. But then again, maybe that's why.

No offense, but perhaps it is because enough folks disagree with your qualitative appraisals.

No offense, but it's always a surprise to me that such an insipid, generic, unimaginative show does well (relatively speaking) on cable. But then again, maybe that's why.

Classic example of someone using "no offense" as a cover so they can go ahead and offend an entire fanbase with impunity. Stay classy Joel Clemons!

Perhaps if you find the show so unwatchable and are so bothered that it has a fanbase you'd be better served to take your clearly superior and unique intellect and imagination somewhere else where us peons won't offend you so.

My fault, guys. When I said my IQ was 6, he probably thought EVERYONE here was incapable of seeing his condescension for what it was. We probably won't see him again. Comments like that are what I call "drive by fruitings."

I don't know about anyone else but I enjoyed tonight's episode and the interaction between Claudia, Myka, & Pete.

I had a really hard time with tonight's episode. It felt like two distinct and competing tones - the dramatic tone of Artie and the Warehouse "tribunal" vs. the comedic tone of Myka, Pete and Claudia as the Three Warehouse Stooges. It felt like two different episodes that they stuck together with silly putty.

It would be like Star Trek fusing the Trouble with Tribbles with the Joan Collins/WWII time travel episode. She's my sister, my daughter, my sister, my daughter... nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

I liked tonight's show. Glad to see Claudia in one of the main story lines, that was more like the Claudia I liked so much in her first episode. All in all I thought it was a pretty good episode. I've seen those previews all week, but still loved that shriek from Myca, Peeeeeettttte. LOL

Any Sanctuary fans, there is a mini-marathon (8 hours) next Tuesday(9/15) running from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm ET. They are actually running them in the correct order, starts with episode 6 and runs through 13.

At first, I didn't think I'd like this episode. But I enjoyed it. If it was just Pete, Myka & Claudia and their warehouse hi-jinks, that would have been too much. The drama between Arte and the "tribunal" balanced it out nicely.

Any Sanctuary fans, there is a mini-marathon (8 hours) next Tuesday(9/15) running from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm ET. They are actually running them in the correct order, starts with episode 6 and runs through 13.

I forgot about Sanctuary! When does that return?

I liked tonight's show. Glad to see Claudia in one of the main story lines, that was more like the Claudia I liked so much in her first episode. All in all I thought it was a pretty good episode. I've seen those previews all week, but still loved that shriek from Myca, Peeeeeettttte. LOL

Maybe I was just tired and surly last night. I'll watch it again.

I forgot about Sanctuary! When does that return?

Friday nights at 10:00pm starting 10/9. It's paired with Stargate Universe, SGU premiers the week before 10/2 with a two hour pilot, after that it will be SGU at 9:00 followed by Sanctuary at 10:00 ET on Friday nights.

Friday nights at 10:00pm starting 10/9. It's paired with Stargate Universe, SGU premiers the week before 10/2 with a two hour pilot, after that it will be SGU at 9:00 followed by Sanctuary at 10:00 ET on Friday nights.


Thanks!! i remember earlier in the year, when I read the new schedule, that my Fridays would be very full. Those two shows will be the ones I try to actually watch on Friday.
I don't think I've ever had so many shows on a Friday that I wanted to watch. Even back in the 70's.

Friday nights at 10:00pm starting 10/9. It's paired with Stargate Universe, SGU premiers the week before 10/2 with a two hour pilot, after that it will be SGU at 9:00 followed by Sanctuary at 10:00 ET on Friday nights.

The visual style for Stargate Universe sure does look to be a lot different than the previous shows. There also don't seem to be any signs in the previews of the overtly comic tone VisionOn sees in most Syfy programming.

I thought this was a better than average episode as well. It had some meat to it as well as the character interaction that I think makes the show. I thought the serious and humorous storylines balanced eachother very well.

Amazing how much better the actress playing Myka looks when she actually smiles.

I also enjoyed this episode - I like this show for what it is - they don't try to be too serious.

Decent episode tonight, more Claudia being Claudia :) Only one more episode left. I'll miss it, but we'll soon have SGU and Sanctuary and then about the time those two end, we should be getting Caprica(20 episodes, don't know if it's split or not) and when that ends hopefully it'll be about time for Eureka and WH13 again.

What's the relationship between Mrs. Frederic and Leena?(are they possibly the same person? Have we ever seen them together?)

MacPherson played them like a cheap piano tonight. Looks like a good season finale next week.

I was under the impression that Leena is Mrs. Frederic's daughter. And how does Mrs. F just appear & disappear like that. Drives Artie nuts!

I agree that last nights episode was decent.
Hard to believe next week is already the season finale, just when I'm starting to get into it.
From the preview it does look like the season finale might be a good one. :)

Hmmmm. Leena can't be in the same place as Mrs. Frederic at the same time? Gee, wonder what Mrs. Frederic's first name is?

Hmmmm. Leena can't be in the same place as Mrs. Frederic at the same time? Gee, wonder what Mrs. Frederic's first name is?

Have we actually seen them together? I can't honestly remember. We heard Mrs. Frederic's name last week, but I forgot, was it Leena? I'll check my recording, but if someone remembers, go ahead. I just checked, it was Irene.

Last night's episode was enjoyable. I liked Michael Hogan's portrayal of Myka's father - what a good actor. The worst thing about Warehouse 13 this summer? Not enough of it. Too bad next week is the finale.

Irene Leena Frederic? He said grasping at straws.

In the preview for next week, Mrs. Frederick and Leena appear together.

Warehouse 13, The Complete First Season, all day Tuesday. :)

In the preview for next week, Mrs. Frederick and Leena appear together.

I'm still sticking to my mother & daughter theory.;)

The worst thing about Warehouse 13 this summer? Not enough of it. Too bad next week is the finale.

I agree. I find myself really enjoying this show.

In the preview for next week, Mrs. Frederick and Leena appear together.

Yep, they do:

http://rebkell.net/MrsFandLeena.jpg

I'm still sticking to my mother & daughter theory.;)

I got that impression too, there was something in one of the earlier episodes that gives me that impression, I think ... I got the impression they're related in some way.

I just started wondering if I'd ever seen them together and then when Artie came in the room towards the end of the last episode and he was talking to Leena and all of a sudden there was Mrs. F and no Leena.

I agree on the mother-daughter theory. Why, early in the seres, I thought Leena might be the offspring of Artie and Mrs. Frederick. Something that was inferred in one of the very early episodes. I'm not so sure anymore - Mrs. Frederick does not seem completely human to me.

W 13 has apparently done gangbusters for SyFy, and it's got its 2nd season locked down.

Good news for us.

That's good news indeed!

and we have the very expected and cliche cliffhanger...

Good Episode, but...

Way to obvious that Leena was Mac's inside man. Claudia was too perfect of a choice so they had to pick somebody else. Artie is dead and Pete/Myka are stuck in the Warehouse?

Be interesting to see where they take the show next season

and we have the very expected and cliche cliffhanger...

Good Episode, but...




*** of a bitch. The email notifications obviously don't respect spoiler tags.. What a great way for the forums to ruin the finale for me..lol.

*** of a bitch. The email notifications obviously don't respect spoiler tags.. What a great way to ruin the finale for me..lol.

That's a fact about the spoiler tags showing up in email. I really enjoyed tonight's episode. I can't believe we're done until the summer. It was just hitting it's stride. Oh well, I sure hope Claudia is back, don't know what to think about Artie though. The show is over so spoilers are wide open at this point. I just hope they decide to up the episode count to more than 13 next season. It sounds like there is a possibility there can be more than 13, but as of now only 13 are planned for next season.

If what happened to Artie in Ep 12 was a fact.. then he is an artie fact :p

Maybe Artie had the Phoenix artifact with him, the one that keeps you from burning/blowing up? He was putting stuff away when all the action started, maybe he still had it on him.

*** of a bitch. The email notifications obviously don't respect spoiler tags.. What a great way for the forums to ruin the finale for me..lol.

Sorry Dave, didn't know that...

That's a fact about the spoiler tags showing up in email. I really enjoyed tonight's episode. I can't believe we're done until the summer. It was just hitting it's stride. Oh well, I sure hope Claudia is back, don't know what to think about Artie though. The show is over so spoilers are wide open at this point. I just hope they decide to up the episode count to more than 13 next season. It sounds like there is a possibility there can be more than 13, but as of now only 13 are planned for next season.

Where was Claudia when the "umbilical" was destroyed? I'm assuming the Claudia they showed leaving the B&B was Leena. Why didn't Irene make it back to the warehouse entrance? If Artie had the phoenix, had Pete or Myka touched it, what about Leena or Claudia?

Lots of loos ends and different ways to take the plot next season. Hopefully we can expect something bigger that the 13 episodes we saw this year, maybe a full 20-25 episode run?

I understand the problem with the earlier post's contents being revealed in the email, but the "spoiler" post above is not technically a spoiler. I know because I posted a minor spoiler in the Chuck thread last year and had to have spoiler details explained to me. :o

Anything that happens in the episode or its preview for the coming week is fair game for posting in the thread. If you haven't seen the ep, I guess you not only have to make sure you don't read the thread, but also that you don't read the email post from AVS.

Didn't Artie have a chance to take the Phoenix artifact away from McPherson? If so, he could have survived the explosion and fire. I expect an opening scene next season in which Myka and Pete hear Artie coughing and see him pulling himself out of the debris (or they pull him from it).

Edit: Sorry, Keenan. I missed your post about the Phoenix when I first posted.

I think the most disturbing thing about the "Claudia" issue is how Mrs. Fredericks just let her go and didn't even bother to monitor her whereabouts or access to the Warehouse. That's a huge plot hole.

I think the most disturbing thing about the "Claudia" issue is how Mrs. Fredericks just let her go and didn't even bother to monitor her whereabouts or access to the Warehouse. That's a huge plot hole.

Mrs. Fredericks said Claudia was being watched when she left.

And the Claudia we saw leaving Leena's was the real Claudia - she has a bag packed on her shoulder and is obviously running off - Leena was in the Warehouse already helping them put stuff away when she decided to go check on MacPhereson. - I'm sure they'll figure it out when they see the thimble on her hand in the video.

The real Claudia wasn't in the warehouse.

And it's almost guaranteed that Artie has the phoenix. Every artifact they introduce has a plot purpose....

So if we assume Artie had the Phoenix (which I suspect will be true), who dies in his place?

So if we assume Artie had the Phoenix (which I suspect will be true), who dies in his place?

Leena obviously - MacPhereson has to get away, and since she's the only one who'd know where he was heading, she's the one most likely to be done.

(and her dying will allow the whole "is Claudia a traitor" plot to go on a bit longer)