View Full Version : Currently available Nvidia ION based products overview


tux99
07-12-09, 05:58 AM
As it can be quite confusing keeping track of which Nvidia ION based products are actually currently available to buy (due to all the advance announcements of products that then take months to appear in the shops), I have put together an overview of all currently available Nvidia ION based products:

http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html

I will be updating this list regularly, as soon as I find out about new ION based products available to buy.

If you know any other ION products available to buy, not on that list please let me know via PM or here in this thread.



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mythmaster
07-12-09, 02:48 PM
Thanks, tux. :)

tux99
07-13-09, 02:13 AM
I have now added the ZaReason Ion Breeze 3770.

blackoper
07-13-09, 02:39 PM
hey tux, any idea if the zotac boards have a new revision that will suport wake by usb and if so how to tell what revision I'm getting before I buy? I read a mention of a new hardware revision of the boards but no details

ilovejedd
07-13-09, 10:26 PM
hey tux, any idea if the zotac boards have a new revision that will suport wake by usb and if so how to tell what revision I'm getting before I buy? I read a mention of a new hardware revision of the boards but no details

That would be rev1, I believe. I don't think it's written anywhere in the box but it's written underneath the motherboard. The first boards were rev0.

Official word from Zotac:
Hey guys, just wanted to provide everyone with a quick update. All currently shipping models support wake-on USB. We made the switchover earlier in the month and since the boards have been selling out, all new boards received by retailers support wake-on USB.

-Tuan // ZOTAC NA PR

edmc
07-14-09, 02:01 AM
As it can be quite confusing keeping track of which Nvidia ION based products are actually currently available to buy (due to all the advance announcements of products that then take months to appear in the shops), I have put together an overview of all currently available Nvidia ION based products:...

tux99 - please update your webpage (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html) to include the happy news of availability of the ASRock ION 330 in the US finally from Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158007)

tux99
07-14-09, 05:13 AM
tux99 - please update your webpage to include the happy news of availability of the ASRock ION 330 in the US finally from Newegg

Thanks for letting me know, I have done that now, also added a newegg link for the IONITX-A-U as that one is listed again.

tux99
07-14-09, 05:18 AM
That would be rev1, I believe. I don't think it's written anywhere in the box but it's written underneath the motherboard. The first boards were rev0.

Official word from Zotac:

That's very useful info thanks, just for the record the quoted 'Official word from Zotac' is from this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16743982#post16743982

I wonder if someone who has one of these new revision IONITX boards can confirm the revision number printed on it, then I could add a note on the webpage.

tux99
07-15-09, 04:01 AM
I have updated the list, adding 3 more ready assembled systems based on Zotac IONITX boards.

While I don't consider any system using a generally available mini-ITX board in a standard mini-ITX case with some added RAM and storage really worth mentioning, I have decided to at least give them a brief mention for completeness sake.

Also their choice of cases could be inspirational for anyone building their own system, so having a look at them could be worth-while.

Also added the Pegatron IPX7A-ION board.

tux99
07-15-09, 11:31 AM
Slightly OT:
I noticed some Chinese website copy&pasted my entire 'Nvidia ION overview' page including links to the images on my server, so I modified the images on my website that they link to slightly.... :D :D :D :D :D

www .chineselinuxuniversity.net/news/61156.shtml

Guess what flag that is? ;)

mythmaster
07-15-09, 12:19 PM
Slightly OT:
I noticed some Chinese website copy&pasted my entire 'Nvidia ION overview' page including links to the images on my server, so I modified the images on my website that they link to slightly.... :D :D :D :D :D

http://www .chineselinuxuniversity.net/news/61156.shtml

Guess what flag that is? ;)

Don't know what flag that is, but I would've goatse'd them. :D

tux99
07-15-09, 12:32 PM
Tibetan flag...

Bagseed
07-16-09, 12:17 AM
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&ST=nettop&dgc=ST&cid=36580&lid=1087664

wish it had a geforce 9x option for vdpau :(

tux99
07-26-09, 11:53 PM
I have added the first available ION Netbook to the list!
It's rather interesting as it has a dual core Atom and a HDMI port so it could make a great portable HTPC but unfortunately it seems to be available only in Japan so far.

Here is the link again:
http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html

tux99
08-07-09, 08:33 PM
I have now added a link for the dual core (N330) Acer Aspire Revo, which is starting to be available.

CT_Wiebe
08-13-09, 11:33 PM
tux99 - please update your webpage (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html) to include the happy news of availability of the ASRock ION 330 in the US finally from Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158007)It's no longer listed ("Deactivated Item").

tux99
08-14-09, 12:51 AM
It's no longer listed ("Deactivated Item").

According to others here that's normal practice for newegg when they are out of stock and don't know when they get it back in stock.
I doubt it has been discontinued for good by newegg, so I will leave the link there for now. I also added a link to another US seller, so there are still sources for it in the US.

blackoper
08-14-09, 06:02 PM
thought i'd let you know about adding an interesting and cheap case:
M350 Universal Mini-ITX enclosure. There are a couple of different places that sell it but here is one link: http://www.short-circuit.com/product/m350.html

CT_Wiebe
08-15-09, 03:59 PM
tux99 -- Yes, thanks. I looked at that other US source. They are local (San Jose, CA) to me, too.

blackoper -- The M350 is a very interesting case. Mounting it on the back of a TV set would make for an interesting application for a HTPC.

waterhead
08-16-09, 01:03 PM
I have a M350 case, that I mounted my Zotac IONITX-A-U in. I got it from the same retailer that I got the mobo from, Orbit-Micro. They weren't the cheapest, but I wanted to get both from the same retailer.

If you look at the picture, there are two USB ports under the front panel.

http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/m350-p-11274.html

The problem is that the front panel is not meant to be opened. It is actually rather difficult with the top cover on. I decided to use these ports, and mod the case.

I purchased a 6" USB extension cable, and mounted it through a hole I cut in the upper right corner of the panel. This makes one of the USB ports accessable to use.

I used the other USB port for a USB remote receiver. I Purchase an http://www.jdoqocy.com/image-3136390-10521304Anyware MCE Vista Remote (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-3136390-10521304?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2FProduct%2FProduct .aspx%3FItem%3DN82E16880121001) and took the receiver apart. I was then able to separate the actual receiver part from the main board, and soldered short leads to it. I then put a hole in the front of the case, and mounted the front window piece, from the receiver's original housing, in it. I mounted the receiver (and LED) in the window with a hot glue gun. I also had to shorten the original USB cable quite a bit.

I am now trying to come up with a way to mount my Hauppauge HVR-950Q USB card on the inside of the case too. Then the mods would be complete.

Edit: I got some pics:

tux99
08-17-09, 07:46 AM
A new ION based netbook is now available (in Europe), the POV Mobii ION mini.
I have now added it to the ION overview article here: http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html#netbooks

tux99
08-26-09, 07:17 PM
I have now added the new ASUS Atom+ION motherboard to the ION products overview (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html) page.

suanccd
08-29-09, 04:12 PM
and lenovo Q110
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/lenovo-debuts-ideacentre-d400-home-server-worlds-thinnest-q1/

tux99
08-30-09, 09:24 PM
and lenovo Q110
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/lenovo-debuts-ideacentre-d400-home-server-worlds-thinnest-q1/

Thanks, but that one isn't actually available to buy yet.
In any case it's simply another rebadged Pegatron Cape7, like the Prestigio ION which I have listed and which is already available to buy.
Once the Q110 becomes available I will certainly add it, too.

tux99
09-15-09, 11:13 PM
The new dual core version of the Acer AspireRevo R3600 has now turned up in north America too!
I have added a couple links for US and Canada to the Nvidia products overview (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html) article.

tux99
09-15-09, 11:46 PM
The new dual core version of the Acer AspireRevo R3600 has now turned up in north America too!
I have added a couple links for US and Canada to the Nvidia products overview (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html) article.
(edit: whoops, forgot to upload the updated page, now it's online :o )

waterhead
09-17-09, 09:46 PM
I just read something about the HP Mini 311. It has an Atom processor and the ION chipset.

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/09/hp-officially-launches-the-mini-311-netbook.html

erkq
09-17-09, 09:57 PM
I just read something about the HP Mini 311. It has an Atom processor and the ION chipset.

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/09/hp-officially-launches-the-mini-311-netbook.html
I wish they'd put together something like this with the Atom 330.

waterhead
09-17-09, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I don't need a new netbook or laptop. But when one becomes available with the Atom 330/ION combo, I'm gonna get it.

tux99
09-17-09, 11:26 PM
Yeah, I don't need a new netbook or laptop. But when one becomes available with the Atom 330/ION combo, I'm gonna get it.

There are a few available (and listed on my overview), but only available in Europe and Asia so far (AFAIK).

waterhead
09-18-09, 06:50 AM
There are a few available (and listed on my overview), but only available in Europe and Asia so far (AFAIK).
I know, but I can wait for them to become available in the USA.

I made that mistake with the POV/Pegatron mobo. I wanted it NOW, so I ordered it from a UK dealer. I ended up paying $100 more for it, and only got it six weeks earlier. It's a nice board, but I should have just waited for Logic Supply to get them in.

waterhead
10-15-09, 06:55 AM
I don't know how much merit to give it, but I found this (poorly worded) blog about a new Asus N330 ION netbook.

http://www.it-echo.com/2009/10/13/asus-eee-pc-1201n-12-1-netbook-with-nvidia-ion-windows-7.html

Another source:

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/10/asus-eee-pc-1201n-1201ha-specs-leaked.html

tux99
10-15-09, 07:06 AM
Thanks for the pointer, I'm in the process of re-doing the list, I'm splitting it up in more than one page as it's getting long, there are a few more new ION based products to add too.

quantumstate
10-15-09, 07:28 AM
Great webpage tux. But dammit the Asus has only 3 SATA ports, and there is no Gigabyte. Maybe they have a non-Ion-based ITX with at least 4 SATA ports. I don't really need any video at all for my SAN server.

But I do need a BluRay drive. IMO there's no need for a writer, with disk space so cheep, but I do need a slim drive for my GD02 case. Low priority though.

tux99
10-15-09, 07:35 AM
Forget about ION for your SAN server, any Intel integrated graphics is fine, that will give you a much wider choice of boards and they cost less than ION boards too.

quantumstate
10-15-09, 08:18 AM
That saves some time, thanks.

Rgb
10-15-09, 10:30 AM
Lots of good news on the Ion netbook front- I've been waiting to buy a netbook until a VDPAU capable Nvidia GPU was available- AFAIK there aren't any AMD CPU based VDPAU capable netbooks on the horizon (Intel monopoly and all :( ).

The specs appear to be the Dream Netbook I've been waiting for- dual core, VDPAU, 720p or higher ~12" screen, 1080p video playback capable (play via VGA or *HDMI* out to a panel or projector- i.e. ultimate mobile media PC :D ), and >2GB RAM capable.

Note the *HDMI* out !

Specs list spotted for ASUS' ION powered Eee PC 1201N

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/13301/specs_list_spotted_for_asus_ion_powered_eee_pc_1201n/

" a 12.1-inch screen, dual-core Atom 333 CPU (a nice adjustment over the previously rumored Atom 270), 3GB of RAM, 320GB HDD, HDMI out, multitouch trackpad, six-cell battery and of course Windows 7. There's three color choices for the unit; black, blue, or red. "


ASUS's Ion-based Eee PC 1201N, non-Ion 1201HA turn up in yet another leak

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/13/asuss-ion-based-eee-pc-1201n-non-ion-1201ha-turn-up-in-yet-ano/

"...this one will pack a 12.1-inch screen and Ion chipset as expected, plus an dual-core Atom 330 processor, which is certainly more welcome than the Atom 270 that was previously rumored. Otherwise, you can apparently expect 3GB of RAM, a 320GB hard drive, HDMI out, a multitouch trackpad, and a six-cell battery, among other standard fare (including Windows 7, of course). If that's all a bit much for you, it looks like ASUS will also have a non-Ion version of the netbook in the form of the Eee PC 1201HA, which dials the specs back across the board, including an Intel Atom Z520 and the usual integrated GMA 500 graphics in place of Ion. Still no firm word on a release for either of 'em, but all signs point to them being available on or shortly after the big Windows 7 launch date."

http://www.netbookreviews.net/asus/eee-pc-1201n/
"The specification have been confirmed as having a 12.1-inch 1366 x 768 display, running an Intel Atom N330 dual core CPU, GeForce 9400M (ION Graphics), 3GB of DDR2 RAM, 320GB hard drive. It also have 802.11n WiFi, webcam, and a high capacity 6-cell 5200mAh battery, which should last for upto 8 hours"

"The Asus 1201N is also the first Eee PC to feature Ion graphics, and Windows 7 Home Premium."

"It is expected to launch in the U.S shortly, with a price of $499."

"Updated: Correct spections have been added. Such as the Dual Core Atom and increased RAM and HDD space."

Display: 12.1 inch, 1366 x 768 pixels
CPU: 1.6GHz Intel Atom N330 dual core
Graphics & chipset: NVIDIA ION (GeForce 9400M)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Memory: 3GB DDR2
Storage: 320GB HDD + 500GB web-based storage
Connectivity: 802.11b/g/n WiFI, Bluetooth, Ethernet
I/O: HDMI, VGA, 3 USB 2.0 ports, SD card slot, mic, headphones
Webcam: 0.3MP
Touchpad: Supports multitouch gestures
Battery: 6 cells, 8 hours
Colors: Black, blue, or red
Dimensions: 11.7″ x 8.2″ x 1.3″
Weight: 3.1 pounds

waterhead
10-15-09, 03:12 PM
Has anyone seen what an Asus EEE PC 1201 might cost?

Rgb
10-15-09, 03:37 PM
Has anyone seen what an Asus EEE PC 1201 might cost?

http://www.netbookreviews.net/asus/eee-pc-1201n/
"It is expected to launch in the U.S shortly, with a price of $499."

waterhead
10-15-09, 04:59 PM
Thanks. I was at work, and couldn't read all of the links you gave.

I decided that I also want to have an on-board wireless broadband card on mine. I don't think that Asus has this available on any of the Eee PCs. I know that HP, Dell and Acer offer it on some of their netbooks, so I may wait until they come out with one. HP has the Mini 311 (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=Mini&series_name=mini311_series), but it doesn't have the N330 CPU. Just a N270/N280 Atom CPU.

zim2dive
10-16-09, 12:52 PM
Engadget says the dual-core Revo is now shipping to the US

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/acers-atom-330-win7-packin-aspirerevo-now-shipping-to-america/

Acer's been on quite the rampage of late, pumping out more machines during this week before the Windows 7 launch than in the past few months combined. The latest rig to get the a-okay from the shipping department is the refreshed AspireRevo R3610-U9012, a machine which was originally outed back at IFA. This one ups the ante over the former with a 1.66GHz dual-core Atom 330 (as opposed to an Atom 230), Windows 7 Home Premium, NVIDIA Ion graphics, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, a 160GB hard drive, six USB 2.0 sockets, an HDMI port, eSATA connector, VGA, multicard reader and gigabit Ethernet. There's also WiFi, audio in / out and a bundled wireless keyboard and mouse, though all that oomph in such a small package will cost you $329.99 to bring home.

Nothing showing up in Froogle yet tho.

newlinux
10-16-09, 04:51 PM
too bad the revo doesn't have spdif out. I'm looking into buying, building an ion system over the next couple of months, and the revo looks great, but I need spdif in my setup. Not sure how well any usb audio cards will work and how much fiddling they will require, but I'd rather avoid that...

zim2dive
10-17-09, 10:34 PM
too bad the revo doesn't have spdif out. I'm looking into buying, building an ion system over the next couple of months, and the revo looks great, but I need spdif in my setup. Not sure how well any usb audio cards will work and how much fiddling they will require, but I'd rather avoid that...

Everything I read suggests the Turtle Beach USB audio is a snap under linux.

blackoper
10-28-09, 03:47 PM
there is a new Zotac F series with a pci-e x16 slot coming out and also a new zotac htpc based on the ion. The F series board is a big deal to me due to allowing me to use the ion as a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server. (hopefully)

http://www.megatechnews.com/megatech-previews-zotacs-new-ion-itx-f-series-and-the-mag-itx-system/

tux99
10-28-09, 05:47 PM
there is a new Zotac F series with a pci-e x16 slot coming out and also a new zotac htpc based on the ion. The F series board is a big deal to me due to allowing me to use the ion as a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server. (hopefully)

http://www.megatechnews.com/megatech-previews-zotacs-new-ion-itx-f-series-and-the-mag-itx-system/

Thanks, someone also just notified me of those via email, will add them to the overview.

What I'm wondering is why do you need an ION board for a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server?
Any cheap Atom board with Intel chipset and PCIe slot would be fine for that, the ION GPU would be wasted in a file server.
Also there is already an ION board with PCIe slot available, the POV/Pegatron board (see my overview).

blackoper
10-28-09, 06:57 PM
those cheap atom boards with the intel 945 chipset use a ton of power. About 50+ watts at idle due to the crappy 945 power hungry chipset. I may just do the cheap thing and underclock an extra core2duo I have and drop it on a decent board.

tux99
10-28-09, 07:09 PM
those cheap atom boards with the intel 945 chipset use a ton of power. About 50+ watts at idle due to the crappy 945 power hungry chipset. I may just do the cheap thing and underclock an extra core2duo I have and drop it on a decent board.

No way, they use less than 30 Watts, my Shuttle K45 with a E5300 and 945 chipset uses about 55 Watts idle.

http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/atoms/default.asp?page=7

Omen_20
10-29-09, 08:02 PM
Could anyone tell me how well a Atom 330 + Ion combo runs? I see that HD video runs fine, and thats good, but considering Linux has no Bluray support and ABC's HD video requires Windows.. well doesnt do me much good.

What I'm looking for is a nettop for my dad so he can easily watch Hulu and other videos. Boxee is great, even though Hulu has gimped it. Hulu Desktop is a side option though. So how well does flash run on this platform with Ubuntu? I've been hearing that Nvidia is going to release some kind of acceleration for Ion, or something like that. Also that Adobe is working on an improved Flash for linux. Is any of that true? If so, timeline? Where do things stand now?

Thanks! Oh and your site is awesome! I no longer have to store a ton of Engadget tag sites in my bookmarks. Thanks.

Edit: One more question. I read somewhere that Netflix is working on making Watch Instantly more cross platform, that it uses Silverlight right now. I know theres Moonlight though. God, could you imagine a $200 nettop, Ubuntu + Boxee, Bluray, Hulu and Netflix integration..

Edit2: Does Boxee and Hulu Desktop run ok in 64bit Ubuntu? Not sure if 64bit is the way to go with the dual-core Atom.

tux99
11-02-09, 07:13 PM
I have added the new Zotac IONITX-F board and 2 new ION netbooks (HP and Lenovo) to the overview.

Omen_20, if you need Flash HD video support then currently an ION system is not a good choice, there were some reports that using Boxee Hulu HD works on it, but the new Flash version with video hardware decoding isn't expected before early next year.

I'm not US based though, so I have no direct experience with Hulu or Netflix, someone else might be in a better position to help you with that.

blackoper
11-02-09, 08:51 PM
non hd feeds of hulu in boxee seem to work fine on a single core 230 zotac ion board from my usage. (havn't tried 64 bit, I'm using mythbuntu diskless on the zotac boards). I would think a 330 wouldn't have any problem with standard def hulu feeds so I'd go that route over the 230. Once hardware acceleration for flash comes out, a 230 would be fine. Trying to run hulu in a browser causes all kinds of problems so I'm guessing hulu does something to streamline it.

Rgb
11-15-09, 09:17 PM
Who needs ion?;)

http://atechfabrication.com/products/BD-2000%20Blu-ray%20Player.htm

Rgb
11-15-09, 09:29 PM
Could anyone tell me how well a Atom 330 + Ion combo runs? I see that HD video runs fine, and thats good, but considering Linux has no Bluray support and ABC's HD video requires Windows.. well doesnt do me much good.



Just side commentary- what ABC and FOX are doing is a form of non-net neutral throttling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality

As a consumer and supporter of personal freedoms, you should be pro net neutrality, i.e. we *want* the net to be neutral, i.e. websites should adhere to OS agnostic standards (as well as ISP's not throttling users and/or specific websites).

A website that requires an OS-specific plugin or addon is at fault, NOT the user or his OS.

The use of a proprietary plugin is "throttling" the content from those who can't use the plugin.

erkq
11-15-09, 09:45 PM
Who needs ion?;)

http://atechfabrication.com/products/BD-2000%20Blu-ray%20Player.htm

The whole point of the ION is no not spend the watts to power a 3.0 GHz E8400! Well, egads, you could do ANYTHING with a 3.0 GHz quad core chip, including heat your house! We want something quiet that draws 25 watts including the hard drive.

Rgb
11-15-09, 10:10 PM
The whole point of the ION is no not spend the watts to power a 3.0 GHz E8400! Well, egads, you could do ANYTHING with a 3.0 GHz quad core chip, including heat your house! We want something quiet that draws 25 watts including the hard drive.

Yeah, I know about the low power and all- mainly wanted to give a heads up to the cases on that site...

erkq
11-16-09, 01:15 AM
Yeah, I know about the low power and all- mainly wanted to give a heads up to the cases on that site...
Oh, thanks. Those are some NICE cases.

Rgb
11-16-09, 12:30 PM
Oh, thanks. Those are some NICE cases.

This bad boy looks just like all that high end AV equipment-

http://atechfabrication.com/products/HeatSync_7000.htm

You don't need no steekin' fans when the WHOLE CASE is a heatsink :D

blackoper
11-18-09, 04:22 PM
haha... $750 for a case.. I'd rather have five 1.5TB hard drives instead and a decent $100 case. The case would be worth more than all the components in it combined and multiplied by a factor of 3 or 4. It does look nice however. I may start playing with cutting aluminum on my cnc equipment and see if I can replicate it for myself.

quantumstate
11-18-09, 05:01 PM
Screw Intel. Their anti-competitive practices came to full light recently when they agreed to pay $1.2B to AMD.

Anyone have any experience with "Jetway (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/AMD_Socket_AM3.html)"? Is the 780G any good?

tux99
11-18-09, 05:10 PM
Screw Intel. Their anti-competitive practices came to full light recently when they agreed to pay $1.2B to AMD.

Anyone have any experience with "Jetway (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/AMD_Socket_AM3.html)"? Is the 780G any good?

I don't have experience with Jetway boards but the 780/5G chipset is good, my desktop/media-server AMD based PC has the 770 chipset which is very similar (but without the integrated graphics) and it's solid and reliable.

Never had any issues even when doing resyncs of my 4TB Raid5 array (which means massive amount of data flowing through it) attached to the Southbridge SATA connectors.
Just keep in mind that an AMD based solution will be nowhere as low power as an Atom based solution, it will be more like a Intel C2D based solution (50-60 Watts instead of 20-30).

quantumstate
11-18-09, 05:12 PM
That's OK. Don't need it for my car, but for my backup storage server in the garage.

blackoper
11-18-09, 05:15 PM
..... Just keep in mind that an AMD based solution will be nowhere as low power as an Atom based solution, it will be more like a Intel C2D based solution (50-60 Watts instead of 20-30).

Not exactly true. If you are very particular in board, processor and power supply you can do something like this guy: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54409
He has his amd underclocked and running at 22 watts. I'm sure the wattage spikes under load but it's performance would probably be better than an atom based board.

tux99
11-18-09, 05:25 PM
Not exactly true. If you are very particular in board, processor and power supply you can do something like this guy: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54409
He has his amd underclocked and running at 22 watts. I'm sure the wattage spikes under load but it's performance would probably be better than an atom based board.

Interesting, thanks for sharing that link, 22-23 Watts idle looks good indeed, but to achieve that requires some BIOS tuning skills (which I'm sure quantumstate has), it's not out-of-the-box straightforward.
Also it remains to be seen if it can be done with the Jetway board and the 780/5G chipset too.

livinjean
11-19-09, 04:01 PM
tux, i recently came across this nvidia-ion based product, you might wana take a look it

http://myka.tv/myka-ion.html

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2009/11/06/myka-ion-hd-player-features-hulu-boxee-xbmc/

tux99
11-20-09, 11:39 PM
tux, i recently came across this nvidia-ion based product, you might wana take a look it

http://myka.tv/myka-ion.html

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2009/11/06/myka-ion-hd-player-features-hulu-boxee-xbmc/

Thanks, i have added this now. The Myka is basically just a Zotac board in a custom case.

Rgb
11-21-09, 06:24 AM
Another piece on the Asus 1201N Ion netbook- it will have HyperThreading and a dual core Atom, so it will look like a quad to HT-enabled OS's/software!

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/20/asus_eee_desktop_netbook/

tji
11-21-09, 06:25 PM
The Asus netbook looks interesting. You can use it for many other things outside of HTPC. However, the extra cost would be hard to swallow. As a pure HTPC, the EeeBox 1501 looks hard to beat. Maybe a BD drive added in would be a nice improvement (if Linux BD software was available).

For price/performance, the Acer AspireRevo probably beats them all. I've seen it for less than $200 lately. The newer AspireRevo with dual core Atom would give some CPU headroom for a combined frontend/backend system.

tux99
11-23-09, 08:39 AM
I have now added the following new motherboards to the Nvidia Ion products overview (http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview.html):
- Zotac IONITX-G-E
- JetWay NC63 ION Series

and the Samsung N510 netbook.

Rgb
11-23-09, 09:13 AM
I really hate supporting any monopoly-

Anyone hear if/when AMD steps up to the plate with an Atom CPU and/or Ion GPU equivalent offering?

If not, looks like the ARM stuff coming down the pike might be a real alternative. The new class of 'smartbooks" under $200 will be interesting.

If ~1.6+Ghz ARM chips with 1080p HD capable GPU's take off, we'll finally break our dependence on x86. Maybe we'll see mITX form factor ARM+HD-GPU boards in 2010...

The Beagle Board hints at good things to come from ARM....

http://beagleboard.org/

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/xbmc-arm-port-teased-will-manage-hd-playback-from-pocket-sized/

http://xbmc.org/theuni/2009/10/23/xbmc-on-arm-gles-2-0/

tux99
11-23-09, 10:01 AM
If not, looks like the ARM stuff coming down the pike might be a real alternative. The new class of 'smartbooks" under $200 will be interesting.


As long as we get full driver support in Linux I'm all for it.

I'm fairly agnostic with regards to hardware manufacturers, I support and buy whatever hardware works best with Linux.

Currently the Atom+ION is the best available low power platform that works great as a Linux HTPC, it would be nice if there were some Via Nano+Nvidia ION alternatives available, but so far I haven't seen any for sale.

waterhead
11-23-09, 01:25 PM
I just read a review of the Beagle Board in Linux Journal. It seems there is now an Ubuntu version for ARM chips. But, (surprise) no working flash.

You can read the article here:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10607

waterhead
12-02-09, 06:18 AM
Asus now has the Eee PC 1201N on their web site.

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=sZ0sI6WqjnCHGFta

To recap: It uses the Intel N330 CPU and ION chipset.

Rgb
12-18-09, 06:42 PM
First Look At Latest Ion-Infused Asus Eee PC

http://hothardware.com/Articles/Asus-IonPowered-Eee-PC-1201N-Review/

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/12/18/2033222/First-Look-At-Latest-Ion-Infused-Asus-Eee-PC

"The 1201N also played back 720p and 1080p content without stuttering, and the dual-core CPU allowed enough headroom to multitask while videos were playing"

...first netbook on the shelves to handle VDPAU...

Specifications and Features (as tested)

* Intel Atom 330 CPU (1.6GHz; Dual-Core)
* 2GB of DDR2 RAM
* 12.1" LCD (1366x768 resolution)
* NVIDIA Ion Graphics (Based on NVIDIA GeForce 9400M)
* 250GB (5400RPM) Hitachi Travelstar 5K500.B Hard Drive
* 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
* Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
* No Optical Drive
* 0.3 Megapixel Webcam
* VGA and HDMI Outputs
* USB 2.0 x 3
* RJ-45 (Ethernet 10/100)
* Headphone / Mic Input Jacks
* SD / MMC / SDHC Multimedia Card Reader
* Stereo Speakers
* Full-Size 'Chiclet' Keyboard
* Gesture-Enabled Multi-Touch Trackpad
* 3.22 Pounds (with 6-cell battery installed)
* Removable 6-Cell Li-ion Battery
* 5 Hours Claimed Battery Life
* 296mm (W) x 208mm (D) x 27.3~ 33.3mm (H) (Dimensions)

...loses points for the chiclet keyboard and Win7 preload :(

Price (MSRP): $499.99

tux99
12-18-09, 06:49 PM
...first netbook on the shelves to handle VDPAU...


Naaa, Asus is late, the Prime Note Cresion NA has been out for many months in Japan, see my web page.
(I realise you meant in the US, but the world is bigger than the US :p )

And the HP, Lenovo and Samsung all handle VDPAU too, no dual core Atom but that's not a requirement for VDPAU.

erkq
12-18-09, 06:56 PM
(I realise you meant in the US, but the world is bigger than the US :p )


Not if we can't import it. For us in the US it doesn't exist.

Rgb
12-18-09, 07:29 PM
Naaa, Asus is late, the Prime Note Cresion NA has been out for many months in Japan, see my web page.
(I realise you meant in the US, but the world is bigger than the US :p )

And the HP, Lenovo and Samsung all handle VDPAU too, no dual core Atom but that's not a requirement for VDPAU.

First dual core non-LE Ion netbook? :D

tux99
12-19-09, 09:34 PM
First dual core non-LE Ion netbook? :D

Actually as far as I understand it, the ION-LE is identical to the standard ION, the only difference is the Windows drivers that are limited to DX9, but for Linux there should be no difference at all.

tux99
12-22-09, 12:15 AM
I have added the Asus 1201N to the overview now and also split the page in two as it was getting to big, ION netbooks and all-in-ones are on a separate page now:

http://www.linuxtech.net/features/nvidia_ion_products_overview-page_2.html

waterhead
12-22-09, 06:58 AM
I saw a Jetway barebones ION at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107061 (http://go.avsforum.com/?aid=5336055023&bid=3136390&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2FProduct%2FProduct.aspx%3FI tem%3DN82E16856107061)

The jetway web site doesn't have that exact model number listed, but it appears to be this model.

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/ITX-JBC230C63P-330.html

I don't know which mobo it uses, but most likely the NC63P. The interesting part is the included remote control and integrated receiver. This makes HTPC building a bit easier.

quantumstate
12-28-09, 09:17 AM
Well my remote network attached storage thread seems to have disappeared, so I'll plant here.

Regulars will recall that I'm building a remote NAS backup storage server for the garage, in case of theft or fire at my HTPC my archives will be preserved. I really wanted to go with a trusted Gigabyte or Asus mobo but they simply do not make a miniITX with the mandatory features:
- AMD
- at least 4 SATA ports (pref SATA2)
- Gb ethernet

That's all I ask. I don't care about video as it will be headless. About all I can find are these two candidates:
Jetway NC62K (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/NC62K.html)
Zotac GF8200-C-E (http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-gf8200-c-e-am2-am2-nvidia-geforce-8200-mini-itx-amd-motherboard.html)

I don't know or trust either. Any direct or indirect experience with them?

erkq
12-28-09, 10:19 AM
Well my remote network attached storage thread seems to have disappeared, so I'll plant here.

Regulars will recall that I'm building a remote NAS backup storage server for the garage, in case of theft or fire at my HTPC my archives will be preserved. I really wanted to go with a trusted Gigabyte or Asus mobo but they simply do not make a miniITX with the mandatory features:
- AMD
- at least 4 SATA ports (pref SATA2)
- Gb ethernet

That's all I ask. I don't care about video as it will be headless. About all I can find are these two candidates:
Jetway NC62K (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/NC62K.html)
Zotac GF8200-C-E (http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-gf8200-c-e-am2-am2-nvidia-geforce-8200-mini-itx-amd-motherboard.html)

I don't know or trust either. Any direct or indirect experience with them?

Wrong thread? Might get better responses in another thread. This is an ION thread. Nothing about AMD here!