http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html

Starts July 21st.

I'm looking forward to this one! Should appeal to anyone who is a fan of post apocalypse type stuff, ala 'The Stand' etc.

They're putting 10 people in a post apocalypse type situation (a global plague) where all the infrastructure of modern society is kicking around, but no electricity, running water, or the experts who normally keep such things running. The survivors have to scavenge and improvise from the equipment and technology left laying around.

Sweet. I'll be checking this series out. Thanks for the headsup.

Life After People With People

:D

I hope this is not like Survivor.

It sounds like what I thought Survivor was when it first came on: a show about who could last the longest in the wilderness and what they needed to do to survive.

Instead, it was about petty politics and personalities.

It sounds very much like "The Alaska Experiment" except that it takes place in a Los Angeles warehouse instead of Alaska.

They have already posted some details on the first six episodes. If you extrapolate from the first six, it suggests they are headed for cannibalism before the end.

:D

Reminder: Starts tonight.

I was disappointed with the premiere episode. I was hoping for a more tech heavy type atmosphere, not so much the silly soap opera stuff that went on. I know it supposed to be reality TV, but I felt like I watching the World's worst amateur acting.

I think the stupid 'attacking bandits' concept is what is forcing this bad acting--they are trying to take the bandits seriously and thus wind up with the kind of hamfisted dialogue, similar to when our 4 year old dresses up like a ghost on Halloween "Oooh, look at the ghost, I'm sooo scared".

It would be better if they just dropped that stupid aspect and issued weekly challenges to the team, maybe fill the extra time with segments showing interesting survival techniques not covered by the team.

Just another excuse to get reality programming on a channel that is supposed to be educational and informative.

Ha.
I don't watch reality TV programming, I checked this one out. It was OK.

My reaction was mostly positive. I like the people they selected. They are smart and interesting, much better than the groups on "The Alaska Experiment."

It's an experiment. We know the bandits are fake. The colony members know the bandits are fake. But the bandits do in fact wake them up at night and the colonists do in fact have to post guards all night to protect their food. That part is real. It contributes to their stress level when they are already miserable from their terrible living conditions.

I didn't watch much of this so I may have missed this. Do any of the members have any medical conditions requiring ongoing medications (i.e. insulin for diabetes, etc.)? I'm guessing that the producers would not include such a person. But, if you think about it there are lots of people in the US that take medications to manage their ailments. Those medications would not be available in this scenario. I guess the Colony only forms after all the ill or slightly ill have died off.

Although it is portrayed as a futuristic science fiction scenario, it is actually a realistic representation of how many people have had to live in times of war or in areas of extreme poverty. And there are certainly many people in the world today living under similar or worse conditons.

I wonder how many viewers will figure that out? Will the colonists themselves figure it out?

I thought the first ep was BS, this crap belongs on NBC. Come on Discovery, you can do better. Just bring back Les Stroud already.

Although it is portrayed as a futuristic science fiction scenario, it is actually a realistic representation of how many people have had to live in times of war or in areas of extreme poverty. And there are certainly many people in the world today living under similar or worse conditons.Doubtful. As there is a disclaimer at the end of the show stating that if anyone's health is in jeopardy, there are qualified professionals standing by ready to step in at a moment's notice. I doubt most people living in 3rd world situation's should be so lucky.

Also, this is a pretty boring show as most of the people on it are fairly qualified individuals in the fields in any case- as we can tell by the first episode alone where:

1. The software engineer knew how to make a water filtration unit from stuff lying around

2. The electrical engineer and handyman were able to jury-rig emergency lighting from auto batteries and a household voltage converter.

and the list goes on...

No, I would not consider this your every day group of individuals- and the environment was conveniently setup for them to succeed.

As you can tell, I didn't like the show much- it would have played much better as a drama rather than a reality show.

I also like to watch this stuff:D

I thought it was ok at best. The group of people is not "typical" of course. I had no problem with the water filtration system. Anyone with even basic survival knowledge knows how water filtration works....I'm only a moderate hiker/camper and know how that works, but did find it too convenient there were bags of sand and charcoal laying around.

Same with the lighting. That's just basic electrical knowledge a lot of "handy" people would know (myself included). But having the batteries, wire, and especially the converter laying around was way too convenient.

The most annoying thing is the bandits. I know there probably would be roving bands of bandits in this situation, but the reaction of the Colony was just sad. That Mike guy being all upset because they didn't go out there so he could steal their motorcycle was crazy and just bad acting. What did he want to do? Go out there and beat them up with that metal pipe?.....maybe drag them back in and rob them and hold them prisoner? Ok, maybe in a real life situation you'd do something like that, but this is a reality show on TV, and him acting like that is just idiotic (again, came off as bad acting).

I wish they'd lose that aspect of it, even though I like that they should have to set up guards and a perimiter and some security in that situation.

Do these "actors" get to join Actors Equity or Screen Actors Guild unions?

Yes, it's all fake. It's too easy. They are not really in danger so they have to role-play and pretend they are in danger. They have a library of reference books on survival methods, and the items in the books just happen to be available in the warehouse. They are smarter and more talented than a random group of people thrown together.

It is not literally real, but it's close enough for an experiment to see what kind of psychological effect they will experience from a simulation. Then, by extrapolation, it might give us a better understanding of what happens in the real world with people who are less fortunate than the colonists.

I'm just guessing at this point. I don't know if I can watch the whole series.

I'm going to give it a few episodes and see how it works.

Maybe next they will do a "world infested by zombies" type show. I'd be good at that :)

I'm not exactly sure how they could "fake" it while still making it worthwhile. I mean, obviously they had to buy/rent a warehouse and give them something. In a real-life scenario, they'd have access to something besides the warehouse and the immediate grounds outside (like they could raid the neighborhood's abandoned houses or malls or Home Depots).

What they could have done (maybe) is cordoned off some abandoned disaster zone or city....there are plenty of abandoned hurricane areas and old towns where they could've blocked off 2 - 4 blocks (assuming they could get rights to it, of course). Fence in the whole area (as-is) and see if they can survive using a non-stocked area.

Micheal's funny to watch. He's always mad at people. ha
I like the show, cool to see what they build.
Like others have mentioned, I'm sure it's all fake and planned out. They know what they will build a head of time, and know the build out will work fine and all that. The "wood gas" was cool.

The situation is a little hard to buy into as real, I can't imagine how hard it is for the participants to fake either. They better not dirve that truck they are putting together too far. They might reach civilization and ruin the show. I bet the camera crew is sneaking them pepsi and big macs.

Didn't they leave the compound last night? They left to go scavenge supplies out into 'the wild.'
I was confused, I thought they weren't allowed out of that gate.

They went out and stole food supplies from a tent they found. Then the colonists wondered whether they should feel remorse about stealing from other survivors of the disaster. But the tent had obviously been left there by producers of the show. It wasn't stealing. It was a gift.

Last week I argued that we should ignore the fake stuff and see it as a roll-playing experiment. Now I'm not so sure.

But it was still entertaining. Fake or real? Who cares if it's fun to watch?

Who cares if it's fun to watch?

If it were fun then yes. The idiots on Whale Wars are WAY better.

This is like the first reality program I have ever made a point to sit down and watch.
I liked last night's episode. The shower was a nice build.

Michael regarding the electricity, " Quit the cutesy" when that women was being funny.

I deleted my season pass after last week's episode. I love the whole concept, but the execution just sucks. I think it's because the "actors" are all pretending it's real....with the moral choices of "stealing" from the obviously planted tent and for some reason thinking they need to build a bus/truck to escape the show.

I also hate the whole marauders thing, especially when the narrator keeps re-emphasizing "the marauders have been given instructions not to harm the contestants....but the contestants don't know that".....so we're supposed to believe that they're that stupid and actually think the producers of the show hired marauders that are out to harm/kill them? Yeah....

I just can't stand that they pretend it's all real, and not just an experiment/show.

I do find the stuff they build interesting though, but the other 90% of the show was just painful.

Have the colonists been instructed not to physically harm the marauders, and do the marauders know that?

:D

I liked tonights episode. The whole trading scene was great.
The fight with Leilani and Michael was... ha

The colonists were anxious to trade lots of oranges because oranges were free for the picking off nearby trees.

So why did the traders trade for oranges that they could have gotten for free?

If, on the other hand, oranges were no longer available, then that means the colonists were giving up something of value, not something free.

It made no sense to me.

And the other problem: They showed a time lapse video supposedly of sunlight moving across the floor at dawn, but the sunlight was moving in the wrong direction. They thought we were too dumb to notice.

Just loved this weeks episode.
The fight at the end was a bit much. ha

The colonists were anxious to trade lots of oranges because oranges were free for the picking off nearby trees.

So why did the traders trade for oranges that they could have gotten for free?



because its all staged. its not real. You have to pretend that the oranges are in a place the traders do not know about.

I read an online article yesterday with one of the cast members in the colony, and he said that the line between fantasy and reality was seriously blurred at times. He said that he had to keep reminding himself not to hurt the marauders.

Obviously, the colonists know this isn't real, but they have been instructed to act as if it were, and I do think they are taking it very seriously and as a result (and being immersed in the environment) has caused the "role playing" experience to become very real to them.

I think the show is fantastic. First reality show I've ever been interested in.

Doubtful. As there is a disclaimer at the end of the show stating that if anyone's health is in jeopardy, there are qualified professionals standing by ready to step in at a moment's notice. I doubt most people living in 3rd world situation's should be so lucky.

Also, this is a pretty boring show as most of the people on it are fairly qualified individuals in the fields in any case- as we can tell by the first episode alone where:

1. The software engineer knew how to make a water filtration unit from stuff lying around

2. The electrical engineer and handyman were able to jury-rig emergency lighting from auto batteries and a household voltage converter.

and the list goes on...

No, I would not consider this your every day group of individuals- and the environment was conveniently setup for them to succeed.

As you can tell, I didn't like the show much- it would have played much better as a drama rather than a reality show.

Getting the lights going was the easy part (you hook an inverter to a battery), knowing how to work a "gasifier" was the tough one. Even I was thinking you could get an old alternator off one of the wrecks outside, but getting it to turn at speed with the "gasifier" fired engine, was something to watch.

I think the show is fantastic. First reality show I've ever been interested in.

I agree.

Good episode last night. I think roaming around taking free stuff from a hospital would be fun. So many different rooms and things to take, like a huge scavenger hunt.
They didn't finish their "sick ward" did they?

George is no longer apart of the TV show?

I watched about 20 minutes of this. Admittedly I am not a fan of "reality" TV shows. They just seem faked and forced and this falls into that category. To each his own, of course. When I put it on, I thought it was going to be something else. Discovery had a program about a bunch of researchers mimicing life on Mars on Devon Island. That I found interesting.

I assume George is gone permanently because they said he was "removed from the experiment."

Having them build a radio from scratch when it would have made more sense for them to just find an existing radio somewhere shows they are being controlled by producers and not actually solving problems logically by themselves.

I find this show mildly interesting, but I can't get over the fact that these people have got to either be outright actors or at least coached by the production crew. No way that people who go on a reality show (with ever present camera/production crew) would ever react the way these people do and really think they are surviving in a post apocalyptic world. Last nights episode was just way too over the top for me. I mean come on...beyond the overreaction to the "man left behind", do they really think it was by chance that a previously "ransacked" hospital still had a few medicines (all otc stuff btw) and medical supplies left inside? The participants may be able to suspend their disbelief..but I can't.:p

I assume George is gone permanently because they said he was "removed from the experiment."

Having them build a radio from scratch when it would have made more sense for them to just find an existing radio somewhere shows they are being controlled by producers and not actually solving problems logically by themselves.Well, the production crew would actually have to plant a broken radio somewhere in the (very obvious) studio lot confines...and produce a scenario to lead them to it. I guess they figured that having their act..err.."participants" make one from random parts would be more compelling.

I give them credit for trying something new instead of doing the 15th season of ice-road crab-fishing loggers.

I just wish they'd be more honest about what role the producers are playing instead of implying that we're too dumb to figure it out if they don't tell us.

First, I'd like to say that I love this show! I do admit though that I am fascinated by this type of "survival" situation in general.

I can see how many would not believe that the people in the experiment would begin to truly believe the situation is real. However, there have been numerous psychology studies and experiments showing that humans quickly adopt an expected role and will treat a mock situation as real.

One example, and probably the most famous, is the Stanford Prison Experiment from the early 1970s, where a mock prison was set up using college students who acted as guards and prisoners (check Wikipedia: keywords "Stanford Prison Experiment"). Within 6 days the experiment had to be terminated because the guards had become domineering, abusive, and out of control. Many of the prisoners were traumatized from the events.

There is no doubt in my mind that after 30+ days in "The Colony" world the participants have bought into the experiment, actually treating it as real, and are not acting.

Might catch a rerun of this. Watched the last Alaska experiment, noting the visible boost in PQ from the chopper shots using a gyro-stabilized HD camera to a Sony HD-CAM-SR (not limited to 1440 lines like many earlier HDCAM-shot travelogues/documentaries). How's the PQ in this one; anyone know what they're using for capture? Seems they could select state-of-the-art stuff in LA. -- John

Discovery must be out of ideals to run something like this, I'm not watching any more of this. Looks like trained actors then real people.

I was loving this show until this weeks episode. Give me a break. Grab some dam beds from the hospital instead of sleeping on the floor with the rats. Then go find a refrigerator, you have elecrtricy! duh. Make a radio to transmit on AM????, nobody listens to AM especially on this forum! :) Go find a radio station and broadcast to the world!!!! SOS sign, whats that about. Why dont we announce to the world that we want you to come eat or steal the few supplies we have left. Water heater! They got a water heater, well why dont we use it to make hot water! I will keep watching this show, but only because its funny enough to make me laugh. They need to raid a Mcdonalds and get some burgers and fries! :rolleyes:

Some of the show was interesting but the hamhanded cramming of "this happened in Katrina" scenarios in every episode I saw was annoying. Especially the looting part. It sounded like they were trying to justify the looting of electronics that we saw during that disaster. Um, I don't think an HDTV is needed in a survival event.

Other than that, the Michael character was just completely unbearable. There's one in every reality show, but he was just pure a-hole.

Speaking of Michael, he was into it last night about sharing water and vienna sausages. That H2 Zone (?) was pretty cool. 'lighting strikes' purifying water that is.
That would be a hard decision to make, knowing when to share your supplies with others.

That H2 Zone (?) was pretty cool. 'lighting strikes' purifying water that is.


I actually made Ozone in a Physical Chemistry (Thermodynamics) class while I was in college. I was able to measure how much I generated since it is a powerful oxidizer. It was pretty straightforward, but I was impressed with the Tesla coil he made from scrounged up parts. However, I doubt the voltage he is attaining is actually in the "hundred thousands" range. Interestingly enough, I built a Tesla coil for a Physics project and my friend decided it would be fun to zap his own finger during our presentation...he didn't drop to the ground or anything ridiculous, but our professor was pretty pissed off about it.

Sweet. Yeah, I was also skeptical when he sound "hundred thousands"
The rat meat, I don't think I would have a problem with it. Does sound gross, though.

If they need protein, they could eat insects.

This is true.

Michael is such a character. He flipped out on her for not working on the car. The solar trike was a cool making. Sucks how those panels got destoryed by those angry people.

I cheered when the narrator said there are only two more episodes. :D

What was the point of the balloon? And how could it go straight for the razor wire?

They attracted people with the SOS sign and then were reluctant to give a little water to the refugees who showed up, and they only did so because John's wife was in the group. Then they got flooded with water from the broken pipe. How ironic. Did they bother fixing the hole in the pipe or will they get flooded again the next time the water is turned on?

The nurse won't treat somebody she doesn't like. Swell. What a great nurse.

They won't share with others but they will steal from others. They have learned nothing from the experience. They could have been nice to the people at the trailer park and perhaps they would not have smashed the solar panels.

They got what they deserved. It was karma.

i enjoy this show. i find it entertaining.

I'm on the boat with the "These are all trained actors" bit.

The one that really bugged me is when they were gathering oranges from the orange tree and hopped over the wall, and RIGHT NEXT TO THEM was what looked like an abandoned house and possibly a covered BBQ. If I was in their position I would have searched every inch of that house for fuel, food, medicine, blankets, bedding, etc.

They aren't 'acting' the way they should be in that situation. The biggest drawback is the experiment is only 10 weeks long. Even if they were told it was going to be a year long experiment (but really only went 10 weeks) at least they'd believe it a bit more.

I no longer watch the show because it's way too fake, the acting is getting really fake and over the top and they don't react at all the way you would in that situation.

I agree. I am looking forward to this shows end as well. I really love the premise, and enjoy thinking about how I would cope in a situation like this.

The problem with the show is that the accessible area's are so riduclously staged. If the population had truely been reduce at the rapid rate stated, say .05% of the population or less, then for the first 3-5 months it would be easy pickings. Every single house in LA would have pantries full of food, grocery stores stocked with none parishible cans, and Armory's with stashes of weapons, to name a few.
Yes as time went by there would be serious issues to contend with, Nuclear Power Plants overheating, dams desintigrating, etc.
Every house in almost evey neighborhood has a propane barbeque, clean bedding and comfortable beds. Heck go raid the local mattress giant and pick up a dozen serta's for the colony. They have power go get a BD player at walmart and all their DVD's and a nice flat screen. I could go on and on............ yeeezzzzzz Two more shows, and I will probably watch them thats the joke. :o

Damm, Joey got all crazy last night.
When the females used the word "Hit" I think that was the wrong way to describe what happened, it just fueled the fire. Like Joey said, what he did was push her and lay his hands on her in an inappropriate and aggressive way. There was not striking (hitting) involved.

I did not see the bread stealing come, I guess they should have known better.
Wonder what will happen next week for the season finale.

Joey's role-playing seemed appropriate. He may have made a bad decision but at least he was playing the game. The women just took it personally instead, which means they were so self-absorbed that they refused to play along with the experiment of group survival.

Same as the other week when the nurse refused to treat a patient because he hurt her poor little feelings.

Joey can potentially learn something because he was role-playing and can analyze what he felt and how he responded and maybe learn empathy for others. The women can't learn because they only thought about themselves.

I actually made Ozone in a Physical Chemistry (Thermodynamics) class while I was in college. I was able to measure how much I generated since it is a powerful oxidizer. It was pretty straightforward, but I was impressed with the Tesla coil he made from scrounged up parts. However, I doubt the voltage he is attaining is actually in the "hundred thousands" range. Interestingly enough, I built a Tesla coil for a Physics project and my friend decided it would be fun to zap his own finger during our presentation...he didn't drop to the ground or anything ridiculous, but our professor was pretty pissed off about it.


I don't know anything about the ozone generation, but the tesla coil looked about right. I think his volatage was a bit high, but not outrageous.

It's basic electronics... source power (voltage * current) is constant as it moved from induced in the secondary coil. The voltage is increased as the current is decreased... The voltage may be very high, but the current is small and current is what can kill. That's why he didn't die from a super high voltage shock, it just woke him up.

"Phenominal cosmic power...itty bitty living space"

I love the Professor, he's perfect character for the role. I've been amazed by his understanding of things he shouldn't know much about. It even had mee thinking the oxidixer must be a producer planted idea.

The things they have made is pretty sweet. I was most impressed with the simple solar array tracking system. It made me wonder exactly what they had on the shelves on that warehouse. I think him and Mike could make whatever they want.

I have been annoyed with Allison, up until last night. I'm not sure what it is, but she's transitioning into a little ass-kicker. I like the change.

I think it's a shame they this took this approach to the show (the role playing etc) instead of just issuing weekly challenges to the team, ie solar power, clean water, communications, etc. and see what they come up with--ala Junkyard Wars.

It could have been really interesting to see how society begins to get back into shape. Perhaps showing how the group achieves these goals in the immediate sense, but also how these solutions would expand as small groups began to join up would have been good. There would be many interesting situations when you try provide power for six, then for sixty, then six hundred. Same with the governing structure, it's easy to make decisions with a few people, but at some point real government must be talked about--communes, town halls, city states, democracy etc.

After a five-minute commercial break, they come back and give us two minutes before going to another five-minute commercial break.

Now they have about five minutes left to reach the other survivors 120 miles away.

Why would they believe that voice on the radio? How do they know it's not a trap? They might be cannibals. Or maybe the message was meant for somebody else?

They're driving one mile per hour in the river, and here come the end credits.

That's it???

Hey Cosmos2.

Yeah, I have noticed a lot of commercial breaks.
This is true, could have been a bad decision. John C. eating cat food was fun. Interesting show, lot's of silly moments throughout the season.

How could they leave Joey behind after swearing they would never leave anybody behind? Where the heck did they think they were going without Joey? Did they really believe L.A. was in total ruins and their only hope to stay alive was to drive 120 miles in a muddy river to a mystery voice on the radio that could have been a hoax? They looked like the Beverly Hillbillies in that silly vehicle. After failing to scare off a few marauders with their fire bombs and failing to hold the warehouse, they felt they were capable of driving 120 miles in hostile territory without enough food or water and without Joey their leader? Why did the producers give them coordinates 120 miles away? Why not something closer where they could send out scouts to make sure it was safe? Joey was the only winner. Everybody else lost, regardless of what contributions they had made up until that point, it was all wasted.

120 miles was a very long trip. The vehicle was a 'home made' truck, I don't think it could go 120 miles.
I wonder if there will be a 2nd season. I don't think it could have the same cast, though.

An All New Survival Expermint Begins
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 AT 10PM ET/PT

Season Two of THE COLONY introduces viewers to a new group of volunteers with differing backgrounds, skills and personalities, to bear witness to how these colonists will survive and rebuild in a world without electricity, running water, government or outside communication. Over the course of 10 episodes, the colonists - who include a construction foreman, teacher, carpenter and auto mechanic - must work to utilize and strengthen their exploration, technology and survival skills in ways they've never had to before.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/

Can't wait, but wondering if it'll be the 'exact same thing' just with a new cast.

It's on tonight..

they're definitely pushing the whole "outsider" and self-defense aspect much quicker this season. Looks like the outsiders have more leeway about roughing them up a little bit also (last year they weren't allowed to cause them any harm).

they're definitely pushing the whole "outsider" and self-defense aspect much quicker this season. Looks like the outsiders have more leeway about roughing them up a little bit also (last year they weren't allowed to cause them any harm).

I noticed that too. The "roughing them up" could lead to some serious injury to both insiders and outsiders. I wonder how the producers will control the violence (besides explicitly telling them what to do).

Nobody watching this show?

We started watching this and just got caught up on back episodes. I absolutely love this show. I just love all the stuff they try to build and I have learned a lot (especially the whole pig fat boiling and using as fuel in the tractor). To cool!

Did anyone watch the season 2 finale? My DVR cut out right at the end as they were approaching the Bayou house in the boat and it showed the big crowd of people there. What happened after that?? Were they hostile? Or were they welcoming them back into society and out of the experiment?

wow I was totally impressed by this second season of The Colony. They actually successfully managed to show how awful, weak and great human characteristics can be.. it was an absolute social experiment, NOT a survival show.

I like how that one "model" girl (she was pretty ugly) was so dumb and ignorant and turned on the 2 new people that joined their colony. Every word that came out of her mouth was so stupid, honestly the producers picked her to show how a person can be such a piece of scum that doesn't care about anybody else.

Then there was Jim, or crazy Jim.. this guy was pretty crazy from the get go and I called it in the 2nd episode I believe. By the end, he had lost his f'ing mind completely and was curled up in the bushes eating lizards like some psycho.. Again, a successful social experiment

Then there was the black girl who after 50 or so days with these people who basically kept her alive with shelter, water, electricity and food (I do not recall her doing anything other than sanding a wooden propeller the entire season) .. she decides to simply go off with 2 strangers rather than stick with the people that kept her alive. Again, very successful job on the psyche of the mind and how some people can turn on their fellow peers for their own benefit, showing the selfishness of certain people.

I was REALLY impressed by the folks that kept a strong mind during the show and just kept building and trying to improve the situation for everybody. At the end when they got to that house, I was so sad to see only 1 episode left.. they could have easily continued the show for several more days but it was a great ride.

I really look forward to next years season.

Did anyone watch the season 2 finale? My DVR cut out right at the end as they were approaching the Bayou house in the boat and it showed the big crowd of people there. What happened after that?? Were they hostile? Or were they welcoming them back into society and out of the experiment?

That happened to me too! So I taped the rerun and added time to the recording. We didn't miss anything because it when to black two seconds later. I think the message was that it wasn't over yet but no indication of hostility from the other group. Remember though that the virus was there...

Did anyone watch the season 2 finale? My DVR cut out right at the end as they were approaching the Bayou house in the boat and it showed the big crowd of people there. What happened after that?? Were they hostile? Or were they welcoming them back into society and out of the experiment?

The group was hostile because they had weapons and they were yelling at them and waving their weapons about, etc. A clear indication they were hostile. I think the show was just letting people know that it never really ends and there is no happy ending "we can stay here forever".

Excellent series, really, really enjoyed this show.