View Full Version : 'Hells Kitchen' on FOX in Digital Widescreen


WaTaGuMp
07-16-09, 08:04 PM
I cant wait. http://www.fox.com/hellskitchen/

jabbathespud
07-16-09, 08:13 PM
I can.

hdtvjunkie247
07-16-09, 08:52 PM
Still in SD Widescreen I presume?

WaTaGuMp
07-16-09, 09:10 PM
Still in SD Widescreen I presume?

Hmm, wasn't the last season posted in this section?

lexluthor
07-16-09, 09:33 PM
I'm back on board. I haven't watched the last season or two, but I have a distant cousin who is on this season, so I'll check it out.

WilliamR
07-17-09, 06:30 AM
Can't wait. Excellent show.

dwisniski
07-17-09, 07:54 AM
Gordon Ramsey is a fantastic, intuitive chef. Although I am not so familiar with this show, he has a show on BBC America (Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares) that I really enjoy. He goes to ailing restaurants and helps them turn around to become profitable businesses again.

MeatChicken
07-17-09, 10:02 AM
Gordon Ramsey is a fantastic, intuitive chef. Although I am not so familiar with this show, he has a show on BBC America (Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares) that I really enjoy. He goes to ailing restaurants and helps them turn around to become profitable businesses again.
Yes, he's also had a US version of that show on FOX for a couple of seasons now, as well "Kitchen Nitmares" ,
... which, (I'm not making this up), since you are unfamiliar, is kind-of-like a TOP Chef elimination show, only He's the only judge, the contestants are mostly ugly, relatively unaccomplished "ex-con looking" chain smokers, & Ramsey arrogantly shouts 4 letter words & constantly demeans every one of them while they are cooking for guests, until he eliminates one each show.
The winner gets a figurehead 1yr "executive chef" title at a major Vegas or Atlantic City Hotel-Casino & a big $$ prize/salary...

hdtvjunkie247
07-17-09, 10:58 AM
Hmm, wasn't the last season posted in this section?

It was, but the show isn't in HD even though it fools some..

replayrob
07-17-09, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the heads up WaTaGuMp...
HK is one the few shows the family views together. Wonder if my TiVo-HD picked up the first new episode as part of it's season pass? I'll check it out tonight.

... now piss off!! :D:D:D

WaTaGuMp
07-17-09, 12:05 PM
... now piss off!! :D:D:D

Spoken in TRUE Gordon fashion. ;)

CPanther95
07-17-09, 01:35 PM
Widescreen SD shows are OK to discuss in the HD section.

replayrob
07-17-09, 01:38 PM
Spoken in TRUE Gordon fashion. ;)
We (the kids and I) have enjoyed the UK "Life on Mars" as well as the follow-up "Ashes to Ashes" and it seems the Brits are quite fond of that particular phrase :D

.... the kids also get a kick out of it when they call Gene Hunt "gov"....

WaTaGuMp
07-17-09, 02:28 PM
Widescreen SD shows are OK to discuss in the HD section.

Cool thx for the heads up Mr Mod. :D

WaTaGuMp
07-17-09, 02:29 PM
We (the kids and I) have enjoyed the UK "Life on Mars" as well as the follow-up "Ashes to Ashes" and it seems the Brits are quite fond of that particular phrase :D

.... the kids also get a kick out of it when they call Gene Hunt "gov"....

I do like the way they say alot of things, bollocks is one of my favs. I guess that's why Snatch is such a cool flick. ;)

Larry Hutchinson
07-17-09, 03:14 PM
F^%$&*&^8ing good news.

I need my Ramsey fix.

mx6bfast
07-17-09, 03:25 PM
I like his new meaning of the word donut.

kaydigi
07-17-09, 04:42 PM
Any chance they do something radically different this season? I still have the finale from last season on my DVR, it is a chore to get through.

WaldorfSalad
07-17-09, 11:46 PM
I'm back on board. I haven't watched the last season or two, but I have a distant cousin who is on this season, so I'll check it out.Yeah, and I know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who's on it (six degrees of separation ;-)

WaldorfSalad
07-17-09, 11:48 PM
I do like the way they say alot of things, bollocks is one of my favs.And wanker, plonker and wally.
.... the kids also get a kick out of it when they call Gene Hunt "gov"....Its "guv" as in "guv'ner" (slang for governer)

What cracked me up (being British and from the North of England) in Ashes-to-Ashes (which I thought was pretty good) is how BBC America used subtitles for much of Gene's speaking.

Tele-TV
07-17-09, 11:57 PM
Thanks for the heads-up guys. I was wondering why this show was appearing in my DVR.

Larry Hutchinson
07-20-09, 03:18 PM
F^%$&*&^8ing good news.

I need my Ramsey fix.

I have to admit: I was reading Hell's Kitchen but thinking Kitchen Nightmares which is what I was really wanting to see. Oh well.

WaTaGuMp
07-20-09, 04:48 PM
I have to admit: I was reading Hell's Kitchen but thinking Kitchen Nightmares which is what I was really wanting to see. Oh well.

In a perfect world we get BOTH. :D

jspENC
07-21-09, 10:44 AM
Can't wait to see some more "dirty pigs", "Donkeys" and "blonde barbies" try to impress Chef Ramsay! ROFL

WaTaGuMp
07-21-09, 03:47 PM
Tonight is the night YIPPEEEEEEEEEEE, I have had a lot on my mind lately, I hope I don't forget its on. :eek:

WaTaGuMp
07-22-09, 01:03 AM
Holy cow they have some real winners on this season. The opportunity presented to these people and some act like complete idiots. Looks like its gonna be a good season, minus the staged ties in the challenges of course. ;)

Tele-TV
07-22-09, 01:30 AM
^^ I know, those staged ties have to be way too much of a coincedence. ;)

replayrob
07-22-09, 04:02 PM
Well it's like last season when Gordon booted two contestants in one week- then gave the next person on the hot-seat a reprieve the next week. We all knew he was going to do that... but it was fun to watch anyway :D

Looking forward to Kitchen Nightmares too, it's interesting to see how GR turns these places around. Gotta admit- he's no slouch when it comes to being creative!

Gandu
07-22-09, 04:03 PM
^^ I know, those staged ties have to be way too much of a coincedence. ;)

Oh the drama of the shrimp cleaning team challenge. 12 people cleaning shrimp for 10 minutes, and it comes down to the last shrimp ? How could that be staged :) That Pyscho chef has a career in movies if this doesn't work out for him.

bryansj
07-22-09, 04:17 PM
Widescreen SD shows are OK to discuss in the HD section.

Was it just me or was this 4:3 SD on the HD channel? I also had a lot of dropout on DirecTV in Atlanta.

WaTaGuMp
07-22-09, 04:26 PM
Was it just me or was this 4:3 SD on the HD channel? I also had a lot of dropout on DirecTV in Atlanta.

Its posted higher in this thread that its a SD program.

bryansj
07-23-09, 09:21 AM
Its posted higher in this thread that its a SD program.



It was asking if it was 4:3 SD aspect ratio instead of 16:9 SD aspect ratio.

CPanther95
07-23-09, 09:56 AM
16:9 sd

Stewpidity
07-23-09, 09:59 AM
Wouldn't you think at this point, if you new you were going to be on HK you would get a bunch of chicken, fish, shrimp, beef, etc and learn/practice how to cut & cook it properly. As well as learn how to make risotto.

I realize there is a lot of pressure with Chef Ramsey watching you, but if you have practiced what you are doing, that should take some of the pressure off and make it a little easier.

Chuck Smith
07-23-09, 10:05 AM
Was it just me or was this 4:3 SD on the HD channel? I also had a lot of dropout on DirecTV in Atlanta.


I had the same problems on D* in Atlanta. I definitely had it on the HD station and it was in 4:3.

CPanther95
07-23-09, 10:06 AM
Wouldn't you think at this point, if you new you were going to be on HK you would get a bunch of chicken, fish, shrimp, beef, etc and learn/practice how to cut & cook it properly. As well as learn how to make risotto.

I realize there is a lot of pressure with Chef Ramsey watching you, but if you have practiced what you are doing, that should take some of the pressure off and make it a little easier.

If you get too good, they'll boot you.

mx6bfast
07-23-09, 02:21 PM
I'm glad he cut "eyes" Melinda. I figured Van would be the one to go due to roid rage, not Joseph. He came across as a c0ck and definitely backed it up.

nickdawg
07-23-09, 05:08 PM
I'm glad he cut "eyes" Melinda. I figured Van would be the one to go due to roid rage, not Joseph. He came across as a c0ck and definitely backed it up.

I know. I wasn't surprised that Van acted like a d1ck, he seemed that way from the beginning. But I didn't expect Joesph to blow up in the same episode. I knew he was a d1ck too, from the very beginning when he got into an argument over tasting food with a fork.

I can't wait for next week! :D:D

jspENC
07-24-09, 10:05 AM
I never imagined JP would blow up like he did last episode. Cracked me up. Then Ramsay yelled at him... Booohhhh roflmao

Dartman
07-24-09, 10:20 PM
I've liked his shows since the first ones here, maybe it's just the drama and constant swearing but it's entertaining and he actually does seem to care about the people once he gets the idiots weeded out towards the end. I'm sure like any show of this sort they pick people who will be overly dramatic and hot headed, and setup things that may not happen on their own.
The marine will be lucky not to get arrested and maybe thats why he's not a marine anymore:eek:

hooked01
07-25-09, 08:13 AM
I never imagined JP would blow up like he did last episode. Cracked me up. Then Ramsay yelled at him... Booohhhh roflmao


They've been trying to incorporate JP more into the show lately. That whole cake mess up was pretty phony. Then they had that scene when he was escorting one of the female contestants in a limo and they made it seem like a love match.

The show should just stick to the cooking.

jspENC
07-28-09, 11:18 AM
The show should just stick to the cooking.

Yea, no need to start making a dating show out of it also. They may loose some viewers if they start trying to make two shows out of one.

ak3883
07-29-09, 12:31 PM
They made it so dramatic when Joseph got up in Ramsey's face, and security had to stand between them, LOL. Oh my. And what is the first thing he does when he gets outside? Lights up a cig. I can't believe how every single contestant is a smoker.

mx6bfast
07-29-09, 12:37 PM
They made it so dramatic when Joseph got up in Ramsey's face, and security had to stand between them, LOL. Oh my. And what is the first thing he does when he gets outside? Lights up a cig. I can't believe how every single contestant is a smoker.
A lot of people that worked with me in restaurant's smoked. Mostly in the back of house.

I can't believe how many people are getting hurt this year. Joseph sure looked like a bitch.

lexluthor
07-29-09, 02:10 PM
They made it so dramatic when Joseph got up in Ramsey's face, and security had to stand between them, LOL. Oh my. And what is the first thing he does when he gets outside? Lights up a cig. I can't believe how every single contestant is a smoker.

Based on this and previous seasons it appears as if chefs smoke at an incredibly higher rate than the average American.

For a job where cleanliness if pretty important, I'm a little surprised that's the case.

mayest
07-29-09, 02:34 PM
Joseph sure looked like a bitch.
True. I loved it, after the pointless confrontation, when he said "Anybody would love to hire me to work in their restaurant." (Or, something like that.) Delusional, just like those awful American Idol contestants who think that they can really sing.

replayrob
07-29-09, 03:52 PM
Based on performance- GR needs to thin the herd considerably to get to the talent... if there is any this season :eek:

The women seem especially clueless this year- Lovely, Amanda, Tek and Tennille are just useless.

Either Andy or Van should be the next male to go.

mx6bfast
07-29-09, 04:01 PM
Based on performance- GR needs to thin the herd considerably to get to the talent... if there is any this season :eek:

The women seem especially clueless this year- Lovely, Amanda, Tek and Tennille are just useless.

Either Andy or Van should be the next male to go.
I'd be scared to see Van go. He might actually hit GR.

Robert needs to step it up. He was thrown a life line and he is nearly sinking.

nlk10010
07-30-09, 09:21 AM
Based on this and previous seasons it appears as if chefs smoke at an incredibly higher rate than the average American.

For a job where cleanliness if pretty important, I'm a little surprised that's the case.

Not only that, but my guess would be it's pretty bad for the palate. That's why I look forward to the episode where the cooks need to identify various foods blindfolded so I can see if the non-smokers (if there are any :)) do better than the others.

leafseh
07-30-09, 11:41 AM
Not only that, but my guess would be it's pretty bad for the palate. That's why I look forward to the episode where the cooks need to identify various foods blindfolded so I can see if the non-smokers (if there are any :)) do better than the others.

It's actually very common in the restaurant industry. It's their way of escaping the chaos going on in the kitchen. Even without Ramsay breathing down your neck, working on a line cooking for hundreds of people like that is quite stressful. Smoking is their way of relieving the stress. Sure it's a placebo effect... but it does the trick :rolleyes:

CPanther95
07-30-09, 12:04 PM
Plus, it makes you look cool.

mx6bfast
07-30-09, 01:26 PM
Plus, it makes you look cool.
Especially when you combine it with all of the cussing.

jspENC
08-04-09, 08:41 AM
I keep hoping I'll see some hair nets in that kitchen, but never do. I also often wonder are they washing their hands properly? I see sweat on their brow, and they just wipe it with anything, including their hands.:eek: Gordon needs more A/C in that kitchen.

Lee L
08-04-09, 09:47 AM
I keep hoping I'll see some hair nets in that kitchen, but never do. I also often wonder are they washing their hands properly? I see sweat on their brow, and they just wipe it with anything, including their hands.:eek: Gordon needs more A/C in that kitchen.

Well, I guess since it is not a real restaurant they don;t have to wear them, so they don;t. I do notice this season more seem to be using headbands though.

As far as teh heat, I am pretty sure most kitchens are hotter than the chefs would like. It is too expensive/unfeasable to have that much air conditioning.

mx6bfast
08-04-09, 09:53 AM
An AC would be viable if you are serving cold food. That's why in most restaurants the line where food is ready to be taken to the table is heated.

WaTaGuMp
08-05-09, 12:14 AM
Something was really wrong on tonight's show. The first challenge DIDN'T come down to a tie, or the last dish etc. Robert sure did have a semi meltdown. Anyone else think they might as well just hand Kevin the win, I don't see anyone remotely close to this guy.

mx6bfast
08-05-09, 10:58 AM
Something was really wrong on tonight's show. The first challenge DIDN'T come down to a tie, or the last dish etc. Robert sure did have a semi meltdown. Anyone else think they might as well just hand Kevin the win, I don't see anyone remotely close to this guy.
Is Kevin the bald guy who broke his ankles? If so then yes I agree. I did like the meltdown, which he carried over to dinner service like the chef mentioned, just maybe a little bit too much.

I wonder how many times Lovely has used that stupid line in her lifetime.

jlachowin
08-05-09, 11:47 AM
Kevin is the man.

Also, can I get a play by play? that was hilarious.

WaTaGuMp
08-05-09, 11:47 AM
Is Kevin the bald guy who broke his ankles? If so then yes I agree. I did like the meltdown, which he carried over to dinner service like the chef mentioned, just maybe a little bit too much.

I wonder how many times Lovely has used that stupid line in her lifetime.

Yup that's him.

WaTaGuMp
08-12-09, 12:02 AM
Whoa, the women just fell apart tonight. Looks like next week Robert is back to the hospital, why did they even bring this guy back.

Dartman
08-12-09, 12:34 AM
For the drama"will he live";) They have played these games before we'll have to wait and see what really happens.

mx6bfast
08-18-09, 09:46 PM
I gotta get a bike like that.

mx6bfast
08-18-09, 09:48 PM
Robert apparently does come back, he is in the back of the line on the first shot of next's week show when they are lined up

tomhunter8
08-18-09, 10:34 PM
I think they should make the time they spend at Hell's Kitchen smoke free. You think there is drama now, could you imagine what would happen if they were all suffering from nicotine withdrawal while competing on this show? :D

I don't know if I've seen a non-smoker on this show yet.

replayrob
08-27-09, 10:39 AM
Wow.... Van serves up plastic to patrons, and he sends Robert home?
Can't wait to see Andy go- he's certainly not "the right stuff".

spid
08-27-09, 12:43 PM
I thought Robert should have gone. He never seemed to justify his placement on the show a second time with his performances. Robert was more talk than production this time around.

TomsHT
08-27-09, 01:02 PM
i thought robert should have gone. He never seemed to justify his placement on the show a second time with his performances. Robert was more talk than production this time around.

+1

TomsHT
08-27-09, 01:08 PM
I think they should make the time they spend at Hell's Kitchen smoke free. You think there is drama now, could you imagine what would happen if they were all suffering from nicotine withdrawal while competing on this show? :D

I don't know if I've seen a non-smoker on this show yet.

Wow there does seem to be a near 100% of them being smokers. I dont see the connection to cooking and smoking and would think the opposite that it lessens there taste buds. That would certainly add to there stress, to have them go thru nicotine withdraw.

Reminds me of when I used to be a Prison Guard and the entire city prison system went smoke free.... nothing like being surrounded by thousands of convicted criminals all going thru nicotine withdraw at the same time.... didnt help that I was also aggitated having to do the same.

mx6bfast
08-27-09, 01:49 PM
I think they should make the time they spend at Hell's Kitchen smoke free. You think there is drama now, could you imagine what would happen if they were all suffering from nicotine withdrawal while competing on this show? :D

I don't know if I've seen a non-smoker on this show yet.
Not everyone in this season smokes. It's just a restaurant thing.

Gandu
08-27-09, 06:10 PM
I thought Robert should have gone. He never seemed to justify his placement on the show a second time with his performances. Robert was more talk than production this time around.

The appaling lack of maturity, self control and professionalism dooms 98% of these contestants from the start. Cooking skills aside, would you put any of these people in a leadership position within a multi-million dollar enterprise? Kevin seems to be the only choice. Would you select the f-bomb dropping Whoopi look-a-like as the leader of your restaraunt? With your money on the line?

adrman
08-27-09, 07:12 PM
Wow there does seem to be a near 100% of them being smokers. I dont see the connection to cooking and smoking and would think the opposite that it lessens there taste buds.

I know many chefs and, waiters, kitchen staff, etc... and the vast majority do smoke. It is an odd combination, but I still remember when everyone in audio post production smoked too (the least of our bad habits). It's just part of the culture and you pick it up. I think HK purposely over emphasizes the smoking via editing to elicit a reaction from the audience.

WaTaGuMp
08-27-09, 08:24 PM
Robert was a tool, all this guy ever did was act like he was so good at being a chef. In reality he isn't, or at least doesn't appear to be from the show footage. No Andy wont win, but Robert wouldn't of either, so pot kettle black. twice had to leave for heart issues, NEVER should of been brought back. Kevin should win this thing easily, if he doesn't then something MAJOR has to happen.

Mitch G
09-02-09, 07:41 PM
Watched last night's Hell's Kitchen - Tek is seen in the kitchen at about 50 minutes into the show. Kind of strange since she's gone.
Perhaps some editing to increase the drama? (Ramsey was yelling at Amanda at the time.)

Kind of weird.


Mitch

roland6465
09-02-09, 08:47 PM
Watched last night's Hell's Kitchen - Tek is seen in the kitchen at about 50 minutes into the show. Kind of strange since she's gone.
Perhaps some editing to increase the drama? (Ramsey was yelling at Amanda at the time.)

Kind of weird.


Mitch

We just finished it and saw her as well. Shortly after, there's a shot with Robert as well.

WaTaGuMp
09-02-09, 08:56 PM
The show was pretty predictable last night. Its like as soon as someone says something like Andy did on about how good his pallette was you just knew he wasn't going to do well. At least they haven't been doing the whole tie challenge thing as much.

spid
09-02-09, 09:08 PM
Watched last night's Hell's Kitchen - Tek is seen in the kitchen at about 50 minutes into the show. Kind of strange since she's gone.
Perhaps some editing to increase the drama? (Ramsey was yelling at Amanda at the time.)

Kind of weird.


Mitch

I noticed that as well. They are normally better mixing up the footage.

Tele-TV
09-04-09, 10:31 PM
We just finished it and saw her as well. Shortly after, there's a shot with Robert as well.


I just noticed Tek as well (well my dad pointed her out). ALthough I did not notice Robert. Not that I don't believe you, but I just erased the show. Darn.

Dartman
09-04-09, 11:22 PM
I noticed Tek as well, kinda weird. Maybe they keep them around to do housekeeping things whilst not on camera if they were OK and not too psychotic? Maybe they get paid scale or whatever till the series runs out that way.

Tele-TV
09-05-09, 12:06 AM
I noticed Tek as well, kinda weird. Maybe they keep them around to do housekeeping things whilst not on camera if they were OK and not too psychotic? Maybe they get paid scale or whatever till the series runs out that way.

Psychotic like Joseph '.' :eek:

Dartman
09-05-09, 12:15 AM
;)You know who I was talking about. I'm sure the marines booted him for being too psycho and now he has a great video to prove what a good cook and employee he can be :rolleyes:

WaTaGuMp
09-09-09, 02:27 PM
Poor Andy, he got cut then he got CUT I dont which was more painfull but I will go with the first cut it looked nasty. Heh the blue team just keeps having injury after injury. Now let me address the reward for the challenge. That mime sh!t was the dumbest thing I have seen on this show, just a joke and I am clueless why that was a reward. Tennille, needs to be duct taped, I HATE the way she talks, the most annoying person on the show. Giving the blue team Susan, hahahahaha classic yer fugged move.

mx6bfast
09-09-09, 02:53 PM
Monotone Dave has an annoying voice also.

Jason Walstrom
09-09-09, 05:23 PM
Monotone Dave has an annoying voice also.

We call him Dave the Robot because of his monotone.

LL3HD
09-15-09, 08:22 PM
No show this week? Oh well, I was looking forward to the Ramsay zoo.

replayrob
09-15-09, 09:12 PM
No show this week? Oh well, I was looking forward to the Ramsay zoo.
Maybe too many injuries- they couldn't muster up enough warm bodies to man the stoves...:eek:

Tele-TV
09-22-09, 03:52 PM
Just wanted to giv a heads-up that Tonight's Episode is 2 hours long.

Stewpidity
09-22-09, 08:07 PM
is it just me or is the this unwatchable tonight due to digital transmission issues and pixelation, checked both Directv & Comcast, issues on both ?

ThePrisoner
09-22-09, 08:12 PM
This is in 4:3 for me. Not 16:9. I'm on with Directv.

WaTaGuMp
09-22-09, 08:16 PM
Just wanted to giv a heads-up that Tonight's Episode is 2 hours long.

Thats cause they owe us the hour they didn't show last week. :D

chad473
09-22-09, 11:48 PM
is it just me or is the this unwatchable tonight due to digital transmission issues and pixelation, checked both Directv & Comcast, issues on both ?

didn't have any issues on comcast here.

WaTaGuMp
09-23-09, 12:52 AM
Oh man I wanna just shove something down Tennille's throat so I never have to hear her speak again. Now holds my top spot for most annoying b!tch I have ever heard on TV.

mx6bfast
09-23-09, 12:45 PM
Oh man I wanna just shove something down Tennille's throat so I never have to hear her speak again. Now holds my top spot for most annoying b!tch I have ever heard on TV.
No joke. She has the worse potty mouth ever, worse than GR's. He will tell her she did a good job sweeping the floor and she would be on screen bragging about it.

What's up with the roid rage this year?

perrycom
09-23-09, 12:50 PM
She reminds me of Chris Rock voicing the hamster (gerbil?) in that Disney movie...

vurbano
09-23-09, 01:13 PM
she is annoying. Anyone notice how the bald guy is just cruising through?

WaTaGuMp
09-23-09, 01:39 PM
she is annoying. Anyone notice how the bald guy is just cruising through?

He was my choice to win almost as soon as it started. It does look like next week he has some issues though, his name is Kevin.

replayrob
09-27-09, 10:17 PM
GR needs to calm down a bit- he's gonna have an aneurysm if he doesn't bring it down a notch. It's only cooking...

Tele-TV
09-30-09, 05:26 PM
No joke. She has the worse potty mouth ever, worse than GR's. He will tell her she did a good job sweeping the floor and she would be on screen bragging about it.

What's up with the roid rage this year?

Tenille hands down is the most annoying contestant for me on the show, ever.


We call him Dave the Robot because of his monotone.

Monotone Dave has an annoying voice also.

You guys can say that again about MonRobo Dave. But his voice is not bad compared to Tenille. Seriously everytime Tenille comes on the screen in this one person segments, I fast forward the DVR now.


BTW, did anyone see beautiful brown hair Paula, from last Season, in the Art Institute (Cooking) commercial?

mx6bfast
09-30-09, 05:32 PM
Ramsey was tripping us out last night. Constantly saying "it's not possible"

WaTaGuMp
09-30-09, 07:10 PM
BTW, did anyone see beautiful brown hair Paula, from last Season, in the Art Institute (Cooking) commercial?

Yup I noticed it was her also.

LL3HD
09-30-09, 10:03 PM
Tenille hands down is the most annoying contestant for me on the show, ever.:D Funny, I kind of enjoy most of her wisecracks during those one on one interviews. When I here her voice, during those rants, I cannot stop thinking of Farina from the Little Rascals. :D She’s a pisser. However, I didn’t like it last week when she changed her vote to Ramsay, pushing the rest of them under the bus.

WaldorfSalad
10-02-09, 01:56 AM
Tenille would make a good replacement for Billy Mays as she yells instead of talking!

mx6bfast
10-02-09, 07:33 AM
Tenille would make a good replacement for Billy Mays as she yells instead of talking!
I'd be perfectly fine with her dropping off the planet after this show is over. :)

WaTaGuMp
10-02-09, 12:16 PM
Tenille would make a good replacement for Billy Mays as she yells instead of talking!

I would never watch TV again if this came true.

Tele-TV
10-02-09, 01:20 PM
She reminds me of Chris Rock voicing the hamster (gerbil?) in that Disney movie...

:D True that.

:D Funny, I kind of enjoy most of her wisecracks during those one on one interviews. When I here her voice, during those rants, I cannot stop thinking of Farina from the Little Rascals. :D She’s a pisser. However, I didn’t like it last week when she changed her vote to Ramsay, pushing the rest of them under the bus.

There was only ONE time were I actually laughed / didn't get annoed at Tenille. I think it was last week's episode (I have not seen this past Tuesday's yet), where Tenille was bragging about how Chef Ramsay praised her for sweeping??

Or maybe she was saying how she Ramsay should have praised her. I don't exactly remember. I do remember my dad, mom, and I busting up when she was talking on the screen.

ak3883
10-06-09, 08:57 PM
Thank GOD Tenille is GONE. My mute button got quite the workout the first half of the show with her winning the stupid challenge. Her voice really is like nails on a chalkboard.

WilliamR
10-06-09, 10:11 PM
Thank GOD Tenille is GONE. My mute button got quite the workout the first half of the show with her winning the stupid challenge. Her voice really is like nails on a chalkboard.

Agreed

Dartman
10-06-09, 10:20 PM
Well thanks for that, it hasn't played on the west coast yet:p

lexluthor
10-07-09, 07:27 AM
Well thanks for that, it hasn't played on the west coast yet:p
I think "policy" here is that it's pretty much up to you to not check the forums for the 3 hours in the middle.

People who have seen it can't be expected to hold off their posts until it's been shown in all time zones.

Look at some of the busier threads (i.e. Lost). It would never work to have to wait 3 hours to post.

ak3883
10-07-09, 12:39 PM
Apologies for the ultra fast post, I was so excited last night. Ramsey sure loves to make them sweat, with the little kid imitating him(so cute!) and at the end when he was telling Dave he wasn't sure he made the right choice.

I watch LOST, as soon as it's 10PM EST the thread starts filling up fast, west coast peps know to stay off unless they want spoilers.

replayrob
10-08-09, 12:00 PM
Well thanks for that, it hasn't played on the west coast yet:p
Why are you checking in on the HK thread if today's show hasn't aired in your timezone yet?
As far as AVS Forum is concerned SOP for ever has been- all's fair after it's aired on the east coast.

spid
10-08-09, 12:24 PM
Tenille may not have the chops to hang on, but for the most part she was just as consistent as the rest. Kevin for all his talk has spent most of the season off the radar.

mx6bfast
10-08-09, 12:41 PM
Kevin for all his talk has spent most of the season off the radar.
I mentioned this last night that they have only showed it the past 2 weeks or so. Probably because he was much better than the other people they didn't need to show him.

I also wonder if they tell people to be cocky when in the interview room? I was like "what's up with GR telling Dave he is on his radar" as he had been so good. Apparently it was a ploy. I can only imagine how good Dave would be if he didn't have a jacked up wrist.

Dave/Kevin final. I wonder who will miss food that was purposely messed up?

replayrob
10-08-09, 03:25 PM
Dave/Kevin final....
Yup.
At first Dave was playing the naive' "I'm just here to cook" role... but it seems he's a gamer too. I'm pulling for him, Kevin is just a bit too cocky for his own good.

Tele-TV
10-08-09, 09:14 PM
Did anyone see how they showed Tenille in the "interview room" in one of the clips?, and she actually did NOT say anything. :D She just looked up to the ceiling.

Dartman
10-08-09, 09:15 PM
I have a email program that lets me preview all my mail and block what I don't want plus I have the forum set to notify me when new replies come in to subscribed threads so I saw it when I booted the computer and it auto checked my latest mail.
It wasn't that big a deal but I usually cap it then watch it later, at least he gave her a good bunch of compliments and to keep fighting for her cooking.
It was a good show and Dave's a idiot knowing his wrist is junk then trying to pick things up on that side.
I broke my right elbow/arm recently and have to be careful what I do at work till it stabilizes and it constantly reminds me when I start to do something it doesn't like...

wdkerbow
10-13-09, 05:11 PM
Tonight's episode is 2 hours. Is this the season finale ?

Dartman
10-13-09, 05:48 PM
As far as I could tell from the commercials here it is sposed to be. They all ready had adds up for applying to be a contestant on the next one and I'm wondering if Kitchen Nightmares will be back again soon to fill in.

WaTaGuMp
10-13-09, 06:05 PM
Tonight's episode is 2 hours. Is this the season finale ?

Yes it is.

WilliamR
10-13-09, 10:12 PM
Finally, the right person won one of these shows. The best chef and the best one on the show. Congrats! He deserved it.

LL3HD
10-13-09, 10:15 PM
Finally, the right person won one of these shows. The best chef and the best one on the show. Congrats! He deserved it.:eek::confused::rolleyes: WHAT???

You spoiled it!!!









Just kidding :p:D;)

tomhunter8
10-14-09, 12:00 AM
I was surprised but happy with the outcome.

WaTaGuMp
10-14-09, 01:01 AM
Bah I picked Kevin from day 1.

ak3883
10-14-09, 12:15 PM
I noticed they did not have the 2 finalists design the entire restaurant this time around, that is something missing that was in the first what, 5 seasons?

replayrob
10-15-09, 02:24 PM
I noticed they did not have the 2 finalists design the entire restaurant this time around, that is something missing that was in the first what, 5 seasons?
Maybe they figured the two finalists had too much on their plates (hehehe) to deal with and just decided against it. Didn't really reflect on the contestants cooking or leadership skills anyway. It's not like the winner is going into an established eatery and the owner says- ok, new guy.... redesign my restaurant.

I'm happy with the outcome too. The outtakes were funny- GR "ain't nobodies bitc...."!! :D

lexluthor
10-15-09, 02:38 PM
I was happy to see Dave win as well. I prefered his more humble approach to Kevin's arrogance.

Pretty amazing what Dave did with one hand. Seems like he's an excellent cook as well.

eddie_d_lopez
10-15-09, 08:12 PM
agreed lexluthor.

plus dave demonstrated a sincere appreciation for his craft and opportunity presented to him by ramsey. he seemed much more into making executive chef his career choice, more than any other contestant. ramsey probably took that into consideration.

Tele-TV
05-31-10, 07:20 PM
Hell's Kitchen returns tomorrow at 8pm.

WaTaGuMp
06-01-10, 11:46 PM
Oh man this is great, Gordon is on a rampage sending people to the dorms right and left. :D

Ken H
06-02-10, 02:05 AM
Topic title edited.

replayrob
06-03-10, 01:32 PM
Looks like he's got some real winners this season :eek:
Don't they do any contestant screening at all?

lexluthor
06-03-10, 04:19 PM
Looks like he's got some real winners this season :eek:
Don't they do any contestant screening at all?

lol

I actually have a distant cousin on the show this year. I've never met him though.

mx6bfast
06-03-10, 04:50 PM
lol

I actually have a distant cousin on the show this year. I've never met him though.
Who? If you dare. ;)

Dartman
06-03-10, 07:35 PM
Well I think any reality show wants some conflict and some hot bodies to show off so they go for that a bit first then maybe make sure they can do whatever the show might be about.
I watched it later on as I forgot to set my recorder or HDTV card to capture it and it seemed pretty typical, with a few new twists thrown in.
He seemed to actually like a few of the folks cooking for a change, even if it looked awful...:D

Lee L
06-04-10, 11:38 AM
Looks like he's got some real winners this season :eek:
Don't they do any contestant screening at all?

They have some stinkers, but I actually think the top 4 or 5 seem better than previous seasons. Really the first several weeks are all about eliminating the obvious people, having drama to keep and hopefully build viewers and hoping maybe one of the lower tier people can vault up with the good ones.

WaTaGuMp
06-04-10, 12:35 PM
I wonder if this is a smoker free group, they didn't show anyone puffing it up YET.

mx6bfast
06-04-10, 02:26 PM
I wonder if this is a smoker free group, they didn't show anyone puffing it up YET.
I think they were all too busy getting bitch slapped to light up. But if no one on this season smoked that would be amazing considering how many people, more in boh than foh, smoke.

WaTaGuMp
06-04-10, 03:26 PM
I think they were all too busy getting bitch slapped to light up. But if no one on this season smoked that would be amazing considering how many people, more in boh than foh, smoke.

I thought the same thing that they might of just not had time to smoke. Either way it was just something I noticed since last season had so many puffers.

shortkud
06-04-10, 04:28 PM
I think every season people who normally don't smoke end up smoking in the later episodes because its so stressful.

WaTaGuMp
06-09-10, 12:57 AM
Well, the smokers came out.

WilliamR
06-09-10, 07:52 AM
I can't believe that guy actually argued with Chef Ramsay. Even if you put aside Ramsay's insane success, did he really think, as a person, Ramsay would stand for that, has he not seen anything the man has done on TV?

replayrob
06-09-10, 10:30 AM
I can't believe that guy actually argued with Chef Ramsay. Even if you put aside Ramsay's insane success, did he really think, as a person, Ramsay would stand for that, has he not seen anything the man has done on TV?
I often think to myself... don't these contestants ever watch previous seasons?
The newbies continuously seem to have problems with the same three items over and over again- scallops, risotto, and any kind of fish (undercooked mostly).
If a chosen contestant actually did some research and practiced beforehand becoming proficient on just these three staple items- they would go far as to staying off Ramsay's road-rage radar.

Stewpidity
06-09-10, 10:55 AM
haha..i had posted the exact same thing as the post above

i think they ask potential contestants.."Have you ever seen the show ?" anyone that says "NO" gets on :)

ak3883
06-09-10, 12:37 PM
I'm beginning to think it's a requirement that you are a smoker, to get on this show.

Nothing that great yet this season, the guy who walked out(Andrew?) seriously has some loose screws.

replayrob
06-10-10, 09:41 AM
....the guy who walked out(Andrew?) seriously has some loose screws.
Was that the guy who said he raised and butchered his own animals- then ate the raw meat?
Should of had him serving the Tuna tartare :D:D:D

replayrob
06-10-10, 09:44 AM
haha..i had posted the exact same thing as the post above

i think they ask potential contestants.."Have you ever seen the show ?" anyone that says "NO" gets on :)
Again in this episode.... problems with the Salmon and risotto, guess they didn't have scallops on the menu....

WilliamR
06-10-10, 01:16 PM
I actually just had risotto for the first time ever at an upscale restaurant. Now I know why he always has it on his shows, it was fantastic and now I am addicted. Wow.

Next, gotta try that beef wellington he always does. Never had that either.

Jason Walstrom
06-12-10, 10:03 PM
That poor girl Marie actually resembles a Donkey, it will be very cruel if Ramsay ever acknowledges this. Lol

WaTaGuMp
06-16-10, 01:34 AM
Scott is really an arrogant tool. It was good to see Gordon knock him down a few levels.

lexluthor
06-16-10, 08:23 AM
lol

I actually have a distant cousin on the show this year. I've never met him though.

Who? If you dare. ;)

Well, I guess I'll dare now since he's doing fairly well :)

Benjamin

WilliamR
06-17-10, 08:23 AM
Scott is really an arrogant tool. It was good to see Gordon knock him down a few levels.

Extremely. he was ticking me off with his comments.

replayrob
06-17-10, 02:55 PM
When they all just focused on their particular stations- both kitchens seemed to run smoothly. As soon as someone (namely Autumn and Scott) started interfering with the others business- trouble started. Next week's episode looks interesting....

Melanotheron
06-18-10, 02:05 PM
So who got booted? My DVR cut the show off early because of the President's speech. I saw that Scott was up for elimination, but not the ending!

Mel

WilliamR
06-18-10, 03:49 PM
So who got booted? My DVR cut the show off early because of the President's speech. I saw that Scott was up for elimination, but not the ending!

Mel

No one. He made the arrogant guy go to the girl's team, and thinner African American lady go to the guys team.

WaTaGuMp
06-23-10, 12:17 AM
That Kobe burger looked yummy.

WaTaGuMp
06-23-10, 01:04 AM
Hahahahahahaha, Scott is gone. So much for him being the best, the guy is delusional.

Gandu
06-23-10, 04:53 PM
That Kobe burger looked yummy.

"Hey all of you come here!.... Touch that burger...go on TOUCH IT!... IT'S RAW!!" WHAM(as Gordon smashes the burger) Never gets old :cool:

mx6bfast
08-10-10, 11:10 PM
Well, I guess I'll dare now since he's doing fairly well :)

Benjamin
You cousin is a little conceited. ;)

Surprising. I thought Eric would win. Good season though.

WilliamR
08-11-10, 07:44 AM
Wow, I thought for sure Jay was going to win, I was genuinely surprised she got it. Good for her.

lexluthor
08-11-10, 08:01 AM
Was also shocked that Jay didn't win. I thought he was one of the best contestants from any season. Holly was very good too though.

As for Ben, yes, I guess he was rather confident. FWIW, I did hear that his back was hurting for quite a while (since the first time they had to track ice back and forth), but they did only show it in the episode he was eliminated. Still, not sure how you don't just suck it up somehow, but you never know how that goes for individuals. Once he told Ramsey he was quitting, he was a goner.

WilliamR
08-11-10, 02:18 PM
Was also shocked that Jay didn't win. I thought he was one of the best contestants from any season. Holly was very good too though.

As for Ben, yes, I guess he was rather confident. FWIW, I did hear that his back was hurting for quite a while (since the first time they had to track ice back and forth), but they did only show it in the episode he was eliminated. Still, not sure how you don't just suck it up somehow, but you never know how that goes for individuals. Once he told Ramsey he was quitting, he was a goner.

His back may of been hurting for awhile but he said to the camera that I cannot bend over anymore and the next shot is him getting ready and he bends over easily and while cooking he bends over all the time. He was lame.

mayest
08-11-10, 02:30 PM
I was very surprised that Jay didn't win. At the end he said something like, "I hope that I can get in her pants tonight." :-)

So, is this the last season for the show? In previous years I thought they had a 2 hour finale and the contestants got to design their own restaurant.

WaTaGuMp
08-11-10, 02:35 PM
I wonder if Ben still thinks he will be further along in 3 years then Holly.

Indiana627
08-11-10, 03:42 PM
Chef made a bad choice IMHO. Jay was the better choice.

zalbaugh
08-12-10, 10:43 AM
The only reason Holli won was because of her very cute kid. This show isn't about cooking skills its about drama and story lines. Jay had better food (won the challenge), better service from what I saw and probably better comment cards because Ramsey would have pointed out to the audience if Holli had gotten better feedback.

Plus I believe this season it was the Girls turn to win ... I could be wrong but I think the winners have gone boy, girl, boy, girl, etc from the beginning of the show. I knew Jay was doomed when he kept telling us that he was going to beat holli leading up to the final door opening. If there is one thing that the show loves to do it is to take something that a contestant says and make sure the exact opposite happens.

For me the show can be broken down in to two groups of episodes. The first 3/4th of the season is all about drama ... if you bring enough drama you will stay on the show regardless. You won't win the whole thing because no one wants a crazy person 'running' a restaurant. The final 1/4th is showing everyone how great the contestants are and that anyone of them would be a wonderful choice as a chef at fill-in-the-blank restaurant.

All that along with the massive amount of editing (quite a bit of which isn't even chronolgically correct) makes it really a quite horrible show .... which I can't seem to stop watching.

Hector.B
08-12-10, 10:55 AM
Chef made a bad choice IMHO. Jay was the better choice.

As far as someone that would be 100% dedicated to running the Savoy in London, Jay would have been the perfect choice. Holly has her son to take care of and her ex baby daddy that keeps telling her that he loves her even though Holli has been hooking up with Jay. Holli's ex looks like a douche and an opportunist.

ak3883
08-12-10, 12:31 PM
As mentioned above, the finale this year seemed to focus more on the food/service rather than the overall design. In previous years the finale had contestants fly to the destination to see it being built, and designed their half of the restaurant in HK as well.

And I cannot believe how many people smoke on that show, good god. I think that's the second requirement, probably right after being 21+.

I agree 100% about the editing comment. When you think about how set up the show is, and all the editing/cutting to portrait people in different ways, it's sickening. All of a sudden a little over halfway through the season the show changes pace to reveal that the contestants are capable of doing everything, when a week ago they couldn't do anything right. But yet I still watch.

StonesCat
08-12-10, 03:42 PM
Just addressing some comments, last season they didn't do the restaurant decorating thing, either. And, I think the last two winners were both guys, the one who decorated his side w/fish on the wall, and last year the guy who had a busted arm.

Larry Hutchinson
09-24-10, 06:04 PM
No comments on this season?


As long as I am here, I will make one comment: It seems to me that HK is mostly HD with some decent Widescreen SD and a few bits of bad Widescreen SD. Is there any direct evidence I am wrong?

Dartman
09-24-10, 06:47 PM
Well accidentally caught the first 2 shows of the new season after leaving my DVR set to catch the master chef one he was doing. The one 49 year old chef reminds me of flounder on Animal House. Will be interesting to see how long he lasts, probably there just to provide comic relief and extra conflict.:eek:

tomhunter8
09-24-10, 07:02 PM
Was I the only one disturbed when Antonia collapsed, starting shaking, and had trouble breathing? I already felt bad for her after Gordon had made a complete fool of her during the opening sequence. I thought he went way over the top (even for him) in his belittling of her. IMO, that made her collapse that much worse.

vando45
09-27-10, 10:44 AM
Did they ever say what happened to her? All I heard Chef say was she's not coming back.

They had just had a spot on our local news the night I watched the show about a 10 year old girl who died from a brain aneurism (sp?), and they had experts on there describing the symptoms, etc., so that's the first thing I thought was going on.

I'm with Dartman, I think they will keep "Flounder" around as long as possible to keep things entertaining.

replayrob
09-27-10, 02:57 PM
Seems like the kookiest mix of psycho's on HK yet.
That guy Raj is seriously disturbed and Boris reminds me of Hitman!
Wow... what a mess!

Emaych
09-27-10, 04:13 PM
From an entry available by Google search:


HELL'S KITCHEN
An Update on Antonia

Last night, like many of you, I watched Antonia's collapse on Fox' Hell's Kitchen. Because my sister is a strokie survivor, I was worried and anxious. After writing an article, I do check comments every day and saw a number that expressed concern about her current well-being. I contacted the Hell's Kitchen's publicist, Jennifer Sprague for an update on Antonia:





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After the post I did on episode one, we’ve had many requests concerning Antonia. One person put in the comments that she died. Could you please let me know what happened to her and we will let the readers of TV Grapevine know.
Jennifer got back to me late this afternoon and wanted me to let you know Antonia is fine. I'm including her message here.


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Hi Linda – Antonia is at home and doing great! Feel free to let the TV Grapevine readers know!
I know I speak for the entire TV Grapevine family when we send our good wishes to Antonia and hope that she continues to do great!

We thank Hell's Kitchen for their prompt and caring response about Antonia Boregman's state of health.

ragedogg69
09-27-10, 04:28 PM
I'm watching this season if only for Raj. The reason I stopped watching in the first place was there really isnt that many likable people on Hell's Kitchen. Even the kid's camp cook comes off as high and mighty when criticizing his team mates. The other thing that drives me nuts is HK is a peer voted game, but Ramsey gets the final say on who goes. At the end of the final episode he skips over all 3 people that were voted to leave and he sends home a guy that was safe.

It undermines the whole fun of the competition. Imagine if Jeff Probts counted the votes at the end of Survivor and said "You know what Shannon, youre kind of a dick and your team mates have voted you off the island, but the producers here really like your conflict so you stay. Jimmy Johnson, I know youre on the other team and arnt even up for vote tonight but we are sending you home instead because youre not bringing in the sports fans like with thought you would."

It makes no sense to have a competition with rules and then not follow them. These "winners" never end up with that head chef job they are promised. Once Raj is off the show I will probably stop watching, but I know there is no way the producers will let him go until the last moment possible.

filtor
09-27-10, 05:10 PM
What I find annoying about the show is the trumped-up drama before each commercial break ... then they replay the scene over again after the break. Surely they have enough footage to make the show without the replays ... and let the drama speak for itself instead of hitting us over the head with it.

Larry Hutchinson
10-01-10, 03:35 PM
My wife and I miss Raj. He provided considerable comic relief.

It is interesting that Ramsey asked about smoking and asked them to quit for one day. And yet, fewer of them smoke this time. Only about 50%.

What I find annoying about the show is the trumped-up drama before each commercial break ... then they replay the scene over again after the break.

Agreed. But that is what TiVo is for. I start fast forwarding as soon as the dramatic music builds and it is obvious there will be a break.

LL3HD
10-01-10, 03:43 PM
My wife and I miss Raj. He provided considerable comic relief.

It is interesting that Ramsey asked about smoking and asked them to quit for one day. And yet, fewer of them smoke this time. Only about 50%.



Agreed. But that is what TiVo is for. I start fast forwarding as soon as the dramatic music builds and it is obvious there will be a break.

Raj was such a character that it wouldn’t surprise me if the whole persona were created for entertainment. He was beyond absurd. Just like that other ditzy chic with the glasses. The show is wearing thin. They are getting really creative and more manipulative with the editing-- and probably with these characters too.

Regarding the smoking, I’m so glad they finally addressed that issue and I doubt all of a sudden Rasmy was concerned about their taste buds. There had to be some pressure on him to finally ‘butt’ in on the topic.

filtor
10-01-10, 04:13 PM
Agreed. But that is what TiVo is for. I start fast forwarding as soon as the dramatic music builds and it is obvious there will be a break.

I DVR it too but usually wait to see the clever integration of the HK logo ... then skip the first :30 of the "dramatic recap".... :rolleyes:

Raj was funny at first and then just became so delusional that he was simply pathetic. I was really glad to see Gordo pull the ol' switcheroo and send Raj back to his own little world where in his mind he's a superior being... ;)

mx6bfast
11-01-10, 11:11 PM
Just watched the episode where he was cut. The shot they showed of him stuffing his face with the fish and eating the entire thing in like 10 seconds while looking down like a little kid was unbelievable. Slob.

dad1153
06-05-11, 03:43 PM
Critic's Notes
Gordon Ramsay, the two-headed food hydra
The market-savvy Scottish chef is a bleep-filled dysfunction fighter on his U.S. shows. And then there's the host of his BBC America imports — where he mainly focuses on the food, not kitchen theatrics
By Robert Lloyd, Los Angeles Times - June 5th, 2011

Somewhat to my surprise, I am a fan of Gordon Ramsay, the Scottish chef and TV personality. He is not, strictly speaking, a "TV chef," like Julia Child or Bobby Flay, though he will grab a pan and a knife every so often to demonstrate how easy it is to cook something and, paradoxically, how much better he is at cooking it than you will ever be.

As the creator of an international fleet of high-end restaurants and the star of several British and American television series — "MasterChef" and "Hell's Kitchen" begin their new seasons on Fox on June 6 and July 19, respectively, while the fourth season of "Kitchen Nightmares" ended in May — he is more than a chef and not exactly a brand. He is a world view expressed through food; he is professionally himself.

I say "surprise" because I don't particularly follow food TV and because there are aspects of Ramsay's persona that I find, if not quite objectionable, less than appealing — as many surely must. His profanity-laced browbeating of underlings and those who only play his underlings on a game show — his defining characteristic, for the promotional purposes of the Fox network — I do not find entertaining; his attitude toward women can seem dated or at least confused; he eats animals I have long since excused from my diet.

But there are two Ramsays, as seen on television, and if they are not as different as night and day — both are given to outrageous displays of temper, both have the build and mien of an indie-flick gangster and the metabolism of a squirrel — they are perhaps as different as midmorning and late afternoon. The variation between the U.K. and U.S. versions is less a matter of character than of context, the shift in emphasis reflected in the alternative British and American titles of his 2006 autobiography — "Humble Pie" and "Roasting in Hell's Kitchen," respectively.

Or compare the American "Kitchen Nightmares" with its British predecessor, which plays here (along with other imported Ramsay programs) on BBC America. Both concern the education of restaurant people, whose ailing businesses the chef comes to heal, remaking menus, décor and mind-sets. The domestic brand, which betrays all the faults of its reality-warping kind — punishing soundtrack, restless camera, fast edits and endless cutaways to the participants telling you how they feel about one another and what has just happened and what might be about to happen — pushes the dysfunction: "That's tonight, on a very emotional 'Kitchen Nightmares.'"

The original "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares," by contrast, is mainly about food — its purchase, its preparation, its presentation. Every episode creates a distinct sense of place and community, within and without the restaurant walls. Ramsay narrates the U.K. episodes himself, which makes for greater intimacy and involvement, and the camera obliges by moving in close and looking longer. Here, and in such British series as "The F Word," with its celebrity guests and friendly cooking competitions, he is seen to be part of a larger culture and comes across as warmer and, relatively speaking, more relaxed.

As co-creator and co-producer of his own series, he is, of course, complicit in the creation of this Old World-New World duplicity. But as he forever counsels the restaurateurs that "Nightmares" tries to reform, you have to know your market and serve it. That he has a healthy, sometimes more than healthy, ego is obvious. Yet he is not imperious; it is not all about him. (It is a little about him.) For all their four-letter thundering — much of which boils down to "Row harder, ye scurvy knaves" — his shows do ultimately accentuate the positive. Castigating mediocrity, they celebrate quality.

It's not as if he's infallible. His own restaurants don't always make money; some have been sold off or closed. But he cares — desperately, helplessly — about food and the whole business of turning raw ingredients into lasting memories, to the extent that any insult to that process fills him with rage and despair. Most of us will have to take it on faith — and on those Michelin stars, which he is forever mentioning — that he is the cook he says he is. (I have eaten Ramsay-designed food once, as fancy takeout from Heathrow Airport; it was good.) But the show's greater lessons, which apply beyond the kitchen and dining room, you may test for yourself: "complicated" is not the same thing as "complex," subtlety and simplicity go hand-in-hand, and success is a matter of both knowing your audience and knowing yourself.

Ramsay has a rough tongue. But it is the rough tongue of a mother cat in a world of dirty kittens.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-ca-critics-notebook-ramsay-20110605,0,14971.story