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nickdawg
07-21-09, 10:19 PM
Season 6 of Medium begins September 25, 2009, Friday nights at 9pm

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/medium/

Repeats from Season 5, the last season at NBC, are being shown on Tuesdays starting today, July 21.

http://www.cbs.com/info/schedule/index.php

MEDIUM: TUESDAY CBS

7/21/09: Soul Survivor (5-1)
7/28/09: Things To Do In Phoenix When You're Dead (5-2)
8/4/09: Apocalypse...Now? (5-6)

prospect60
10-24-09, 11:26 PM
Just to revive the thread. Medium is back though it feels a bit off to me. Thge crime part is similar enough though the waking dreams/hallucinations I don't remember much from the past.

Is anybody else getting a strange feeling about the family interaction in particular from the Adults -- there seems to be a lot more agitation and outright anger in the relationships that I don't remember in previous seasons though I admit to being only a semi-regular over the years.

Garrett Adams
10-25-09, 06:24 PM
I've seen them all. Joe did seem extra testy at first, but toward the end though his disbelief seemed more reasonable.

Take Two
10-26-09, 03:28 AM
First, let me say I'm very glad that CBS decided to pick up Medium when NBC was cleaning house. Having watched the show from the beginning, it seems the formula for Joe is to have him first react in shock or anger to whatever odd thing Allison has done. As the episode progresses Allison's visions come true and her actions are justified. So by the end of the episode Joe is relieved that everything has worked itself out.
Thats great, but I'm thinking hasn't this guy been married to her for twenty years now. Surely Joe should realize that Allison's track record is 99.9% correct, even if her methods are unorthodox.
I guess the character would seem dull and unrealistic if he calmly said something like, "Sure Allison, you can keep a stranger's baby here at the house. I know it's odd, but knowing you, things will work out in the end.".
Joe is the voice of reason that acts as the filter for Allison's impulsive nature. Allison knows she's right most of the time, but Joe has to be the one who says, "What if your wrong?".

petesimac
10-26-09, 10:45 AM
First, let me say I'm very glad that CBS decided to pick up Medium when NBC was cleaning house. Having watched the show from the beginning, it seems the formula for Joe is to have him first react in shock or anger to whatever odd thing Allison has done. As the episode progresses Allison's visions come true and her actions are justified. So by the end of the episode Joe is relieved that everything has worked itself out.
Thats great, but I'm thinking hasn't this guy been married to her for twenty years now. Surely Joe should realize that Allison's track record is 99.9% correct, even if her methods are unorthodox.
I guess the character would seem dull and unrealistic if he calmly said something like, "Sure Allison, you can keep a stranger's baby here at the house. I know it's odd, but knowing you, things will work out in the end.".
Joe is the voice of reason that acts as the filter for Allison's impulsive nature. Allison knows she's right most of the time, but Joe has to be the one who says, "What if your wrong?".


Yeah, normally I'd agree with you, but this time Allison seemed way over the line; the pepper spray?! As much psychic power that she has, no sane person could ever be okay with kidnapping; I think Joe played it just right; very realistic.

And I disagree with the poster who said that show was a bit off. I think it's as good as it's always been. They had a dark conclusion to last year's season, and so the beginning was a bit dark, but it has picked up nicely. Ariel's episode was fantastic; what a fine young actress she is. And I loved Marie's clarinet story, and poor Bridget -- my favorite! I always think the show is stronger when the family is involved, and that hasn't changed. This last episode was written so well and played so well by all the actors. And it's good to see that the show's ratings are solid, winning it's time slot each outing so far this year. As long as the actors want to keep doing the show, it looks like we're good for at least one more season.

Take Two
10-26-09, 05:04 PM
Petesimac, you are right. Allison was too aggressive in this last episode. Both the pepper spray to the mom's face and the kidnapping were way over the line. Joe's reaction was very realistic for that situation. If Joe had reacted any differently it wouldn't have made much sense.
I was trying to say that the usual story arc is that Allison sees something in a dream, tells Joe about it, Joe says "that's crazy...how can you be sure?", and sure enough in the end she is vindicated. I know that the show wouldn't be realistic if Joe wasn't skeptical of some of Allison's psychic visions or her methods in achieving some of her goals. However, as a viewer I sometimes find myself questioning Joe's doubts about things like, does Allison really need to call Devalos or Scanlon at 3 in the morning? (Of course she does. Her track record should prove that.) Or if Allison tells Joe to take a different route home than usual because she had a vision that something bad would happen if he didn't. (Why not? It's better being safe than sorry.) I will admit that recently Joe's character has been better or at lest more trusting of Allison when dealing with those types of things.

On another note, I agree that the show is at it's strongest when the family is involved. We enjoy watching Allison's daughters discover their psychic abilities and wonder how they will incorporate them in future episodes. The girls are all such wonderful actors and do a great job bringing life to their characters. Bridget is my favorite as well, and it's great to see that the writers are able to give Marie more lines now that she is older. If everyone thats involved with the show and the powers that be are willing, I would love another season.

NetworkTV
10-26-09, 06:40 PM
I find it perfectly believable that Joe is incredulous at the beginning of each vision. Allison is usually a bit off base at first and tends to go off half-cocked based on those incomplete visions.

Later, when she gets more information, she usually gets a more complete picture - and more support from those around her.

So, Joe and the D.A. are usually acting quite correctly until she gets things sorted out.

Ken H
10-26-09, 07:20 PM
Topic title edited.

Take Two
10-31-09, 02:27 AM
Really cool episode last night. I loved the way they incorporated scenes from Night of the Living Dead into Allison's dreams. The intro with Cassandra Peterson was a excellent touch.

I thought it was great when Joe asked what the kids were watching and Allison says, "A zombie movie marathon." Joe's reply, "I hope it's not the one where everyone gets stuck at the mall." (Jake Weber stared in the 2004 zombie movie Dawn of the Dead, where they get stuck at a mall.)

It looked as though the cast had fun shooting this episode.

tomhunter8
10-31-09, 08:54 PM
Really cool episode last night. I loved the way they incorporated scenes from Night of the Living Dead into Allison's dreams. The intro with Cassandra Peterson was a excellent touch.

I thought it was great when Joe asked what the kids were watching and Allison says, "A zombie movie marathon." Joe's reply, "I hope it's not the one where everyone gets stuck at the mall." (Jake Weber stared in the 2004 zombie movie Dawn of the Dead, where they get stuck at a mall.)

It looked as though the cast had fun shooting this episode.

As a fan of Night of the Living Dead and Medium I loved this episode! I didn't know he was in the remake of Dawn of the Dead. That is hilarious!

Garrett Adams
11-01-09, 06:17 PM
I watched it last night and found it a wonderful concoction. Nice change of pace.

WilliamR
11-01-09, 10:06 PM
Good episode, better then I thought it would be for another "zombie" episode.

dad1153
05-18-10, 01:54 PM
"Medium" is coming back next season to CBS but without the Ghost Whisperer (she's out of a job): http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/cbs-cancels-six-series-renews-rules-of-engagement-medium/

NetworkTV
05-18-10, 01:56 PM
^^ Good news.

Medium isn't exactly deep mystery and suspense, but I always enjoy both the visions and the general family dynamic. Ironically, it feels more real than a lot of stuff that's set up as "real".

Emaych
05-18-10, 02:14 PM
^^ Good news.

Medium isn't exactly deep mystery and suspense, but I always enjoy both the visions and the general family dynamic. Ironically, it feels more real than a lot of stuff that's set up as "real".
Oh, I don't know. This show is really well done, so whatever mystery is there is pretty compelling, even just from the standpoint of staging -- the construction of the drama is very clever -- don't know that I would characterize that as "deep," but I can very much admire a show well done. ESPECIALLY since the premise seems as if it would almost immediately lend itself to silliness and pretension. They did flirt for a time with alot of Joe's incredulity, which given that week after week she proved she knew what she was talking about, was getting tiresome. But you are right, the family drama works here. it is nicely underplayed, AND THAT IS QUITE RARE!

NetworkTV
05-18-10, 02:49 PM
Oh, I don't know. This show is really well done, so whatever mystery is there is pretty compelling, even just from the standpoint of staging -- the construction of the drama is very clever -- don't know that I would characterize that as "deep," but I can very much admire a show well done. ESPECIALLY since the premise seems as if it would almost immediately lend itself to silliness and pretension. They did flirt for a time with alot of Joe's incredulity, which given that week after week she proved she knew what she was talking about, was getting tiresome. But you are right, the family drama works here. it is nicely underplayed, AND THAT IS QUITE RARE!
What I mean is, it's not like the mystery is hard to figure out. The who-dunnit is far from hard to figure out each week.

It's the rest of the show that makes it work.

djb61230
05-18-10, 03:07 PM
Patricia Arquette has GOT to be tired of filming those "wake up from a nasty dream" sequences. I wonder if they just pick a day and do enough for the whole season. :D

Glad to see that she will have to do more of them...

petesimac
05-18-10, 03:42 PM
Great news! Wonderful cast, creative stories (for the most part) and lots of fun with Patricia and her TV family (how can you NOT love Joe and his reactions to his wife's nuttiness).

nickdawg
05-18-10, 04:54 PM
Glad it's not being canceled. "Medium" is even better now that it is on CBS.

rezzy
05-18-10, 06:03 PM
I starting watching regularly after the "peacock" canned it. The recent ep with the eldest daughter's "aging" was quite good. NBC shot themselves in the foot for letting this go, but what else is new?

nickdawg
05-18-10, 06:21 PM
I haven't watched "Medium" in a few weeks, I've been busy. But I watched it last Friday and it immediately pulled me back into the series. The family drama, the crime of the week, I haven't seen a show I enjoyed this much with great writing since "Boston Legal".

I hope CBS does repeats all summer on Fridays and I hope this show will be in broadcast syndication this fall. I'd love to see more episodes, without having to buy/rent DVDs.

tomhunter8
05-18-10, 07:12 PM
I haven't watched "Medium" in a few weeks, I've been busy. But I watched it last Friday and it immediately pulled me back into the series. The family drama, the crime of the week, I haven't seen a show I enjoyed this much with great writing since "Boston Legal".

I hope CBS does repeats all summer on Fridays and I hope this show will be in broadcast syndication this fall. I'd love to see more episodes, without having to buy/rent DVDs.

This show has a GREAT cast, especially Patricia Arquette, Jake Weber and Miguel Sandoval. However, I wish they would do more episodes similar to season one where she would see dead people during her daily routine instead of just in her dreams.

WilliamR
11-16-10, 12:59 PM
Patricia Arquette says the show has been cancelled.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/11/15/medium-scoop-we-got-canceled-says-patricia-arquette/?hpt=T2

ltownsend
11-17-10, 04:59 PM
Patricia Arquette says the show has been cancelled.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/11/15/medium-scoop-we-got-canceled-says-patricia-arquette/?hpt=T2

And another one bites the dust ....:mad:

prospect60
11-17-10, 09:18 PM
I actually got the impression from last weeks show that might be a possibility.

Ariel already away at college, DA moving on to Mayor and Alison going back to Law School which was part of the Flash Forward show earlier in the season featuring Ariel.

NetworkTV
11-18-10, 10:02 AM
I actually got the impression from last weeks show that might be a possibility.

Ariel already away at college, DA moving on to Mayor and Alison going back to Law School which was part of the Flash Forward show earlier in the season featuring Ariel.

They had many life-changing events over the years, from Joe and Allison losing their jobs (and Joe getting a new one while Allison got hers back) to the girls developing their psychic powers. Even something as simple as getting a new car was a big event.

I think that those big changes really make the show more realistic and they allow the show to stay fresh when the rest of the stuff starts to feel stale. It shows the family isn't simple frozen in time and actually grows and moves to the next point in life.

As a result, none of those changes mean the show was potentially ending (especially since those episodes were shot and edited months ago -before CBS made the order changes they did). It merely means the writers were mixing things up to keep it fresh and to provide realism to Arial's circumstances since she couldn't stay in high school forever.

I am hoping that something might change between now and renewal time to bring things around in favor of keeping the show. I'm not sure CBS has much to gain by replacing a steady (and reasonably rated) Friday show with something unproven. Blue Bloods certainly is paying off, but there's no guarantee they could repeat that success. Further, Medium is certainly not hurting the later programming as a lead-in, either. CBS may be better off sticking with what, while not potentially a best-case scenario, is still not potentially worse than what they have.

domino92024
11-18-10, 03:22 PM
I am hoping that something might change between now and renewal time to bring things around in favor of keeping the show. I'm not sure CBS has much to gain by replacing a steady (and reasonably rated) Friday show with something unproven. Blue Bloods certainly is paying off, but there's no guarantee they could repeat that success. Further, Medium is certainly not hurting the later programming as a lead-in, either. CBS may be better off sticking with what, while not potentially a best-case scenario, is still not potentially worse than what they have.

Odd that "Blue Bloods", which CBS trumpets as such a success, had a 1.6/5 rating last Friday in the important age 18-49 bracket, and "Medium" had a 1.4/5. Not that much difference. "Medium" even won it's time slot in the age 18/49 category, as well as the overall audience. Hmmm...

aaronwt
11-18-10, 06:57 PM
Patricia Arquette says the show has been cancelled.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/11/15/medium-scoop-we-got-canceled-says-patricia-arquette/?hpt=T2

Crap!!
Well I guess there goes another night when I won't be watching any TV.

dougotte
11-19-10, 09:10 AM
Well I guess there goes another night when I won't be watching any TV.

My wife, daughter, and I have had one show we all like to watch together on Friday nights, but they never last too long. There was Joan of Arcadia, Providence, Ghost Whisperer, Numbers, and now Medium. Most of those shows were eye candy for me, but still...

Doug

Mentalist5.1
11-20-10, 01:07 AM
RIP, Medium. Honestly I was a decent show that I just didn't really have time to watch. Got into the DVR game pretty late and then it became possible, but until I got an expander Medium didn't make the cut.

mikeewing
12-05-10, 07:26 AM
Was that the last episode? If so, what a shame. It was about the core of the show: family. I can't believe that, despite the fact that it had declining numbers, the network couldn't allow the show runners time to wrap up the show for the loyal fans who have watched the show for 7 seasons. Typical network mentality.

Lsollee
12-05-10, 10:03 AM
The last 3 will air in January.

mikeewing
12-05-10, 11:00 AM
The last 3 will air in January.

Thank you.

aaronwt
12-06-10, 10:52 AM
I am going to miss this show. Damn you CBS.

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mikeewing
12-06-10, 12:40 PM
I am going to miss this show. Damn you CBS.

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I wonder what drek will take it's place. Dancing with the American Idle Stars on Ice?

Mentalist5.1
12-06-10, 03:14 PM
One of Blue Bloods or CSI: NY might get the axe this year as well. On some TV blogs people are saying there's a chance CBS might move away from scripted Fridays all together. Don't know what slot Paula Abdul's dance show will get either.

mikeewing
12-06-10, 03:25 PM
That's weird, because over on the "Hot off the Press" thread was the following post:

TV Ratings: Friday viewers favor 'CSI: NY' and 'Blue Bloods'
'Smallville' turns in a solid Friday for The CW


By Daniel Fienberg - Hitfix - Dec 5

If you wanted to quibble with CBS' Friday night juggernaut, you could point to "Blue Bloods" losing to "20/20" in the all-important young adult demographics. But what would be the point? CBS' three Friday dramas each won their hours commandingly overall and two of the three procedurals were also in control in the demo.

Among adults 18-49, CBS won Friday with a 1.6 rating, edging out the 1.5 rating for ABC in the key demographic. The CW finished third for the night with a 1.0 rating, beating NBC's 0.9 rating and the 0.7 rating for FOX.

Overall, CBS averaged an estimated 9.46 million viewers to go with a 6.0 rating/11 share. ABC was a distant second with a 3.5/6 and 5.265 million viewers. NBC's 2.7/5 and 4.03 million viewers came in third. The CW averaged 2.46 million viewers and a 1.5/3 to finish fourth, edging out FOX's 1.4/2 and 2.22 million viewers.

8/7c p.m. - "Medium" kicked off CBS' overall sweep with 6.83 million viewers, also averaging a 1.4 rating to win the hour among adults 18-49. NBC's "A Walk in My Shoes" was second with 4.57 million viewers, beating out the 4.2 million viewers for ABC's "Supernanny." On The CW, "Smallville" averaged 2.79 million viewers for fourth and also did a 1.1 demo rating to tie ABC for second on the hour. FOX's repeat of "The Good Guys" averaged 1.99 million viewers for fifth.

9/8c p.m. - "CSI: NY" let CBS improve to 10.19 million viewers and a 1.7 demo rating in the 9 p.m. hour. ABC's "Primetime: What Would You Do?" was second with 4.815 million viewers and a 1.4 demo rating. NBC's "A Walk in My Shoes" was third with 4.41 million viewers. FOX's new episode of "The Good Guys" took fourth overall with 2.45 million viewers, but did only a 0.7 demo rating. The CW's "Supernatural" was fifth overall with 2.13 million viewers, but tied for third in the demo with a 1.0 rating.

10/9c p.m. - Once again, Friday's biggest audience went to "Blue Bloods," which pulled in 11.36 million viewers for CBS. ABC's "20/20" was second overall with 6.78 million viewers and earned the night's highest rating among adults 18-49 with a 1.9 rating. NBC was third with the 3.12 million viewers for "Dateline."

RockyF
12-06-10, 03:57 PM
Mentalist5.1, I'm not sure what blogs you're reading, but CBS is about the only network having success with scripted programming on Friday (CW is relatively strong), and I don't really see that changing. Medium wasn't just CBS's weakest show on Friday, it was the weakest show on their entire schedule (in terms of ratings of course.) I've seen speculation that "The Defenders" will move to Fridays and the Criminal Minds spin-off will get the Wednesday slot, but that's just speculation. Oh, and Live to Dance has been scheduled for Survivor's Wednesday night slot starting January 5th.

Mentalist5.1
12-06-10, 05:58 PM
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/12/05/bubble-watch-2011-12-how-can-blue-bloods-and-csi-ny-get-over-10-million-viewers-and-be-on-the-bubble/74337

That Blue Bloods is a top 25 show in total viewers most weeks even though it airs on the Friday is a nice feather in the cap, but unfortunately it has the weight of a feather, and feathers don’t weigh very much. On the other hand, when a show is on the bubble, every feather in the cap is a plus for a show.

If the numbers for CSI: NY and Blue Bloods hold up for the remainder of the year I think the decision process for renewals is going to be a difficult one for CBS. The question of how much longer we see scripted content on Fridays lingers. But Bill raises the important question of: at what cost?

If I had to guess, I’d guess CBS will stick with scripted Fridays for the 2011-12 season, and that bodes well for Blue Bloods and fans of scripted shows. It’s a harder call for CSI: NY because it’s an older show that probably is a bit more expensive, plus CSI: Miami is also on the bubble.

How could CBS possibly consider canceling a show that averages more than 10 million viewers? Because they’re not getting paid for a lot of those viewers! Remember, Numb3rs was canceled even though it averaged more than 10 million viewers on a Friday. CBS isn’t NBC. It isn’t struggling to find shows that draw 10 million viewers

RockyF
12-06-10, 09:39 PM
Well, the part of your post I was specifically arguing wasn't whether or not CBS would cancel certain shows, just that I didn't think they would get away from scripted programming on Friday's. The link you posted actually backs me up:

"If I had to guess, I’d guess CBS will stick with scripted Fridays for the 2011-12 season, and that bodes well for Blue Bloods and fans of scripted shows. It’s a harder call for CSI: NY because it’s an older show that probably is a bit more expensive, plus CSI: Miami is also on the bubble."

cliffg
12-07-10, 05:55 PM
I always liked Medium for its realistic family portrayal and staying true to that aspect (while livening up each episode with death and ghosts and dreams and mysteries, etc). Each character in the family had ups and downs, successes and failures (and challenges of many kinds), the house always felt a bit too small and usually cluttered, there was usually not quite enough money, etc. I think they ran out of creative ideas long ago, wrt the supernatural part, but even so, I (and my whole family) have enjoyed almost every episode (I don't think we've missed a single one).

It's had a good run, and I hope the final episodes give it a memorable exit.

You know, for most series, I hope the finale episode is big, dramatic, and resolves all important remaining tensions or questions, but for Medium I'd like to see a nice, quiet end that treats the family well (maybe Joe's business efforts finally pan out and they get a bit of money, and everyone gets to sleep through a whole night without being woken up).

Cliff

dougotte
12-08-10, 09:47 AM
I always liked Medium for its realistic family portrayal and staying true to that aspect (while livening up each episode with death and ghosts and dreams and mysteries, etc). Each character in the family had ups and downs, successes and failures (and challenges of many kinds), the house always felt a bit too small and usually cluttered, there was usually not quite enough money, etc. I think they ran out of creative ideas long ago, wrt the supernatural part, but even so, I (and my whole family) have enjoyed almost every episode (I don't think we've missed a single one).

It's had a good run, and I hope the final episodes give it a memorable exit.

You know, for most series, I hope the finale episode is big, dramatic, and resolves all important remaining tensions or questions, but for Medium I'd like to see a nice, quiet end that treats the family well (maybe Joe's business efforts finally pan out and they get a bit of money, and everyone gets to sleep through a whole night without being woken up).

Cliff

Agreed. I came to the series late. My wife has watched it all along. I only started watching sporadically at the end of its NBC run, then started watching more-or-less regularly in the last two seasons. The supernatural stuff is usually hard to swallow and a bit laughable, but the family dynamics are the true heart of this series. I love it when she wakes him up in the middle of the night. Instead of appearing shiny and with perfectly coiffed hair, he looks sleepy, mussy, and grumpy. He usually mutters something like: "What is it now?"

Doug

Alan G.
12-08-10, 12:20 PM
We're going to miss this program. The producer calls it a love story, not a procedural, and their home's lived-in look, the family's busyness, all added to the charm. We also think the middle daughter, played by Maria Lark, is as naturally portrayed as any child we've seen lately. Hope we see more of her.

ltownsend
12-08-10, 04:46 PM
We're going to miss this program. The producer calls it a love story, not a procedural, and their home's lived-in look, the family's busyness, all added to the charm. We also think the middle daughter, played by Maria Lark, is as naturally portrayed as any child we've seen lately. Hope we see more of her.

Second that. I will miss this as well.

Take Two
01-21-11, 04:29 PM
Well, tonight's the series finale.

After seven seasons, (five on NBC, and two on CBS) I hope that the writers give us a solid, heartfelt ending.

I have watched this show since the beginning, and will miss the paranormal exploits of Allison DuBois and the Phoenix, Arizona district attorney's office.
However, the thing that I will miss most, is the time we viewers shared with the DuBois family. We've spent seven seasons watching them weather the highs and lows that families go through, with love and sincerity. The television landscape will definitely feel a lot emptier without them.

mrvideo
01-21-11, 05:25 PM
Well, tonight's the series finale.

Yep, an end of an era. Sad, considering how well it has been doing in the ratings.

After seven seasons, (five on NBC, and two on CBS) I hope that the writers give us a solid, heartfelt ending.

Considering that the producers, etc., were given enough time, my paranormal forecasting says that we will get a deserving ending.

rezzy
01-21-11, 05:54 PM
*sniff!*

tomhunter8
01-21-11, 06:55 PM
Well, tonight's the series finale.

After seven seasons, (five on NBC, and two on CBS) I hope that the writers give us a solid, heartfelt ending.

I have watched this show since the beginning, and will miss the paranormal exploits of Allison DuBois and the Phoenix, Arizona district attorney's office.
However, the thing that I will miss most, is the time we viewers shared with the DuBois family. We've spent seven seasons watching them weather the highs and lows that families go through, with love and sincerity. The television landscape will definitely feel a lot emptier without them.

+1. You expressed my feelings perfectly.

tomhunter8
01-21-11, 09:17 PM
That finale sucked! My wife said she can't even watch the reruns now. What a terrible way to treat those of us who have watched this show since day one. :(

Indiana627
01-21-11, 10:08 PM
Yeah, not the best finale. Too bad, it was a pretty good show.

mrvideo
01-21-11, 10:11 PM
Yeah, not the best finale. Too bad, it was a pretty good show.

Really? I liked the finale. Maybe it was the endless number of commercials/promos and annoying snipes that put you off. It was much better watching it commercial free.

Indiana627
01-21-11, 10:20 PM
I didn't watch it live and FF through all the commercials. I just didn't like how they ended it. I should clarify I liked the last scene, but just not the story leading up to it.

Joe deserved more than to die in a plane crash in the opening scene. And we deserved more than to be toyed with for 45 minutes thinking he was actually alive with amnesia in Mexico for 7 years until Allison found him, when in fact that was all a dream Joe sent Allison to supposedly help ease her pain.
I just didn't like it. Just my opinion. Glad you did like it.

mrvideo
01-21-11, 10:42 PM
I didn't watch it live and FF through all the commercials. I just didn't like how they ended it. I should clarify I liked the last scene, but just not the story leading up to it.

Ah, OK. I do believe that the main story will be liked by some, hated by others, and so-so by others. I suspect that it was planned that way, on purpose. It will cause controversy.

petesimac
01-21-11, 11:41 PM
Part of me wishes that the writers would have just let the Dubois family continue on as they have over the last 7 years, except that it wouldn't be televised. It WAS a nice touch though to include that the REAL Allison and Joe are still alive and well in Phoenix.

The final episode gave a concrete ending; we know what will happen to the Dubois family without having to watch the show for the next 41 years. But I think that what REALLY happened was that they were already working on a show about Joe dying, but instead of having Allison waking up at some point to find Joe still alive and discovering new-found info to put a bad guy in jail, they used it to end the show. Just a theory, but that's how it seemed to me.

I wish that Patricia Arquette frequented this site so I could tell her (and the cast, and the writers), how much this show meant to me over the years. I lost my wife in 1998, and the love affair between Joe and Allison was very close to what I had with my wife; it made me happy to see a couple, albeit fictional (not really, though) in love as much as these two characters were. And not only was the idea of life beyond ours comforting to me, but it felt like I was spending time with my wife while I was watching the show, as silly as that sounds, because of the relationship Joe and Allison had together. This includes tonight's show, where thoughts of my wife were very much on my mind, and especially at the very end.

And I loved seeing the actors at the end, out of character; it was a sweet touch.

Good-bye, Dubois family, you will be sorely missed.

prospect60
01-22-11, 01:49 PM
I must say it was an interesting finale that I kept expecting the typical dream in a dream in a dream reboot they've done before in some of the flashbacks and flashforwards.

I also kept wondering if the Alison we;ve known for the last 7 years would actually have allowed herself to be blackmailed by the drug dealer no matter what consequences it was have meant to Joe. I don;t remember her ever abandoning her central legal/moral center even when it has put her family is danger in the past. Everybody knows that Joe the love of her life and then some, but Ariel's comment "Make Daddy proud of you. You know what he would tell you" moment was totally ignored in the end for her personal gain (obviously Joe ended the dream at that time). Honestly maybe she would have given up everything in the end for that, but it really didn't quite feel right.

I too wish they would have let the Dubois' have it all for once -- Alison in law school finally, Joe;s job finally paying off, the family all together -- and live happily ever after until death, but the happily Forever After ending still works since material/worldly gains never were their main pursuit to begin with

MeatChicken
01-22-11, 03:54 PM
If perhaps, we would have seen Joe & Allisson at Ariel's daughter's wedding... But as they "look" today, with a loving wink from Ariel .. leaving US to "wonder" how/when they died ....

WilliamR
01-23-11, 10:24 PM
Horrible ending. Absolutely horrible. It flies in the face of everything they have established about her abilities. You mean she had no dreams of her husband's plane to stop it. His father or mother didn't come back to warn them? Really? All they did up to then. Lame.

prospect60
01-24-11, 12:29 AM
Well, Joe's mother hinted at some 'dark times' when she came to talk to Allison.

There have also been several times where they have mentioned the limits of her abilities for close family members though there has always been some leeway in specifics. Most of the visions that involve direct family have usually come from people nearby rather than from directly from family. Her visions have also never been 'on command' and often the visions come after the fact or at least after a sequence of events so not every bad event could be prevented.

WilliamR
01-24-11, 12:38 PM
Well, Joe's mother hinted at some 'dark times' when she came to talk to Allison.

There have also been several times where they have mentioned the limits of her abilities for close family members though there has always been some leeway in specifics. Most of the visions that involve direct family have usually come from people nearby rather than from directly from family. Her visions have also never been 'on command' and often the visions come after the fact or at least after a sequence of events so not every bad event could be prevented.

Her visions AND the visions of her daughters have routinely helped the family. To the point of saving them from financial ruin and other life changing effects. This ending was rushed and thrown together at the last minute when no one had any idea of what to do when the announcement came out.

WilliamR
01-24-11, 12:41 PM
Oh and really, your choice is to remain hidden from your family that you love, that means everything to you, instead of actually appearing to them. Your entire family can see, talk to you, discuss things. You could still be in their life and a part of it. Instead you remain hidden until the end because if saves them from pain, hurt? Makes no sense. With how that family works, you could almost lead a normal life mnus the touching, driving, etc. You can coach them, talk to them, be with them every day. I find his whole argument he wanted to spare them from the pain weak at best.

prospect60
01-24-11, 01:13 PM
And the whole hidden from them idea was all part of the dream. We have no idea if Joe ever appeared to the family other than Allison after he died in their real life, or whether the DA was blown up, or Alison got to put the Drug Lord on triel -- all of that was at best one alternate reality.

Yes the whole helping/not helping the family thing was at best spotty in its followthrough though it was mentioned on many different occasions. Most of the issues I can remember that ended up helping the family were actually done through a 3rd parties however.

mikeewing
01-24-11, 02:55 PM
RIP Medium. I thoroughly enjoyed the show over the years, especially the great family dynamic. I appreciate that they were able to do a wrap episode, although as noted it was not exactly what everyone wanted.

I guess the numbers were not what the network needed, since I assume that the cost of the show was increasing.