Here come the first information about the third new model from JVC. After the 550 and 950, we will have the HD 990.

70000:1 on off
900 lumens
ISF
THX
Frame insertion
3 years warranty

9000 euros

No led or laser, it's only a classical UHP Lamp.

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/jvc-ila-990-9000-euros-t30520.html

More infos here :


http://www.cinemotion.biz/noticia_detalle.php?id=986&ccat_n=0

What is the point with the 990?
Is not the assumption it would have a bigger bulb and more lumens?
Perhaps some facts are mixed up?

Really disappointing if true.

This seems to say that the 550 and 950 will be just like the 350 and 750, respectively, except for frame interpolation.

The 990 will have a bump in contrast over the 750/950, but that appears to be it.

I was hoping for a lot more out of this "higher end" model. :(

I totally agree, but remember specifications (Contrast and Light) may change before IFA.

Well, it looks like I'll hold on to a projector for more than a year then. No upgrade for me unless some company other than JVC has something surprising.

The only good news is that us RS20 owners wont need to upgrade to the 990.

The only good news is that us RS20 owners wont need to upgrade to the 990.

Well I think all you RS20 should upgrade.:) As for me I will use my RS20 for a little while longer

Well I think all you RS20 should upgrade.:) As for me I will use my RS20 for a little while longer

And you call yourself a salesman!!?? ;)

Seriously, it's clear we've not yet seen some important specs for this projector. Something significant has to justify the price differential.

Seriously, it's clear we've not yet seen some important specs for this projector. Something significant has to justify the price differential.

Perhaps the 990 has a much higher quality lens, something that many have asked for. We will find out fairly soon.

Am I missing something or is the contrast spec lower than the 950's? I thought they were stating the 950 was 80K:1, while this looks like about 70K:1, which is more than a 10% reduction.

If they are charging about 1K more, it may be the lens. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

Am I missing something or is the contrast spec lower than the 950's? I thought they were stating the 950 was 80K:1, while this looks like about 70K:1, which is more than a 10% reduction.

If they are charging about 1K more, it may be the lens. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

that depends if the 80k:1 for the 950 was a real figure or if it was gleaned from a pixie

"Am I missing something or is the contrast spec lower than the 950's? I thought they were stating the 950 was 80K:1, while this looks like about 70K:1, which is more than a 10% reduction."

The latest announcement has the CR and brightness spec's on the 550/950 the same as the 350/750.

Am I missing something or is the contrast spec lower than the 950's? I thought they were stating the 950 was 80K:1, while this looks like about 70K:1, which is more than a 10% reduction.

If they are charging about 1K more, it may be the lens. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

Seems like they downregulated the HD950 and HD550 specs to 50k:1 and 30k:1 respectively.

My guess is that they will get upregulated again in time for CEDIA :rolleyes:, this is what happened last year, wasn't it? (HD750 at 30k:1 first and later -> 50k:1?)

that depends if the 80k:1 for the 950 was a real figure or if it was gleaned from a pixie

Well we know that since JVC added the manual iris there quoted on/off contrast # is the iris in it's fully closed position. The Lumens are quoted in the iris fully open position. If the 990 could do 70,000:1 on/off @ 900 lumens, then JVC would have another winner on there hands. The 950 is probably around 50,000:1 with the iris open @ 1000 lumens.

Well we know that since JVC added the manual iris there quoted on/off contrast # is the iris in it's fully closed position. The Lumen's are quoted in the iris fully open position. If the 990 could do 70,000:1 on/off @ 900 lumen's, then JVC would have another winner on there hands. The 950 is probably around 50,000:1 with the iris open @ 1000 lumen's.

It's probably more likely that the quoted numbers are extremes just like with the current gen JVC's - you can have either 900 lumens or 50,000:1 on the 950, but certainly not both at the same time. I'd like to imagine that the new models will be able to produce usable lumen levels at their max contrast settings, but the realist in me expects to see incremental increases in max lumens and CR, with the only major difference between the two generations being the 120Hz frame creation.

I'd like to think that, as others have speculated, that the 990 will offer a higher quality, improved optical path over the 550/950. If that's the case, could we also see an improvement in the 990's ANSI contrast or are the two unrelated in this instance?

Could someone with more computer skills than me please post an English translation of the French blurb. Thanks

Hi Mark. Here you go:

You promised, here is a little more detail on the new generation of projectors D-ILA JVC.

In total, the range of Japanese consists of five models including two that you already know, the DLA-HD350 and DLA-HD750, two that you slowly start to discover (DLA-HD550 and DLA-HD950) and the flagship that Now you'll find under the name DLA-HD990.

So what is new?

The Clear Motion Drive is finally emerging. If you know the TV group, the technology you are not unknown. To answer including Epson and Sony, JVC includes a 100/120Hz treatment on the three new references (HD550 / HD950 and HD990).

ISF certification already on the HD750 will also be attributed to the DLA-HD950 and DLA-HD990

The Cinema 1 mode has supposedly been improved further to a refund even more natural and true to reality. Appears as a Cinema 3. (For the three models)

A fashion "Screen correction" will allow you to optimize your images on the canvas that you used. It remains a bit vague .. but the explanation will ...

No details on possible improvement of the device for the "alignment" of matrices.

In terms of specifications, I must admit that this is not the big slap and hopefully a notable visual changes will go.

HD550 : Take our good HD350 (1000 Lumens, 30 000:1 ,...) and add the news you mentioned above. (Except ISF, THX and CMS)

HD950 : The same thing, but with the HD750 (900 lumens, 000:1 ,...) with 50, I prefer to confirm, ISF, THX and the Color Management System

HD990 : A little change from the HD950 because it amounts to 000:1 and 70 wins a year warranty (so 3 against 2 ships).


Price level:

DLA-HD550 : 4999 € Black or White for mid September
DLA-HD950 : 6999 € Black mid September
DLA-HD990 : 8999 € Black mid October

While a small detail, this information may still be amended before the output.

Could someone with more computer skills than me please post an English translation of the French blurb. Thanks
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinemotion.biz%2Fnoticia_detalle.php%3Fid %3D986%26ccat_n%3D0&sl=fr&tl=en&history_state0=
And the thread with zero additional info: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinetson.org%2FphpBB3%2Fprojecteurs-f2%2Fnouveaute-jvc-ila-990-t30520.html

Thank guys. Not enough info to even discuss it but I am sure there will be many posts speculating and saying no need to buy it if one has an RS20 already,

I know this is heresy to most JVC owners, but after living with a Panny 3000 for 9 months, if JVC does the frame interpolation properly, I would now be interested in the JVC. I prefer the increase in clarity that results even in minor movement of actor's faces. I even notice the blurring/doubling that occurs when watching film at the theater (i.e. the panning of vertical lines in some scenes), that isn't apparent at home on the 3000. (and yes, interpolation can be overdone...as evident on my Samsung 46" flat panel LCD).
JVC is expanding their potential buyer population.

Paul

edit...I didn't see the other thread, which discusses this further.

Seriously, it's clear we've not yet seen some important specs for this projector. Something significant has to justify the price differential

Seriously, we need to wait until the final specs come out before we can talk about upgrading or not. Even with the specs, its more important that we see one up close and see how it works. Specs are great and they are great way to compare projectors, but we have to see what this projector can do. Just as the RS20 was a good upgrade from the RS1 and RS2, I will bet that the new projectors will be an upgrade from the RS20

If this is coming out, then I'm definitely going to pull the trigger on 950 or 990.

Those are native contrast...before iris.

Jason, when can you fully spill the beans? And, are the JVC's the thing you said would be "pretty darn cool at Cedia"?

Seriously, we need to wait until the final specs come out before we can talk about upgrading or not. Even with the specs, its more important that we see one up close and see how it works. Specs are great and they are great way to compare projectors, but we have to see what this projector can do. Just as the RS20 was a good upgrade from the RS1 and RS2, I will bet that the new projectors will be an upgrade from the RS20

I agree, definitely best to wait until all the info is out.

I really cannot divulge anything yet. I will post info when I am allowed.

Jason, they stopped the NDA, you can tell them now the 990 has gone DLP... :) j/k

:)

It seems to me at least three possibilities are of particular interest, on their own or in

combination.

Native ~ 2:35 chip(s).

Led lamp source.

Dynamic iris.

All of these have their “charm” and could go a long way towards justifying a price

increase in a deflationary world. For me (because I mostly watch movies @ 2:35) that

would be a distinct advantage, even though I just took delivery of a 16:9 screen. (who

knows I guess I figured that the 16:9 gives me more options in terms of the long run).

And of coarse the led lamp would/will be a big plus when it becomes a feature. These are

but three of the things on my wish list for the next projector.

In all probability, you are out. Strike 3!

I really cannot divulge anything yet. I will post info when I am allowed.

Somebody grab Jason, we will get all the answers.
I've always wanted to try Water-boarding.

Jason. Can you swim? Looks like surfs coming up in Rochester.

In all probability, you are out. Strike 3!

Drat!
I suspected as much.

I was hoping a we would see a projector with an anamorphic lens built-in. That would justify a price increase.

I was hoping a we would see a projector with an anamorphic lens built-in. That would justify a price increase.

This is probably unlikely, but I would like to see a better lens. Or, better yet, interchangeable fixed lenses.

Not a chance. I think most of you guys don`t get it. It is a higher end model. All sorts of things would make a higher end more expensive and better than a lower end model by the same manufacturer. For example a better lens, a better procesor, tighter convergence, better performing polarizers, just to name a few. Additional features take developmental costs and their inclusion in a higher end mode would also justify part of the price. A longer warranty has a realcost too.

Whether you think the higher cost is worth it regardless of whether you can afford is another queestion.

I was hoping a we would see a projector with an anamorphic lens built-in. That would justify a price increase.

That would make for a pretty large projector, especially if the anamorphic feature could be optically disabled.