View Full Version : JBL Project Everest DD66000


gregt777
08-24-09, 04:31 PM
When you get an invite to a private listening session, you go. These speakers were incredible, absolutely stunning. Has anyone here had the opportunity to demo these?

For more info, check this out,

http://hometheaterreview.com/jbl-project-everest-dd66000-loudspeaker/

blackdragon1
08-26-09, 10:38 AM
I can get these new for about $45,200 USD here in Hong Kong.
They sound fantastic if your into Horns, JBLs best speaker so far.

coldmachine
08-26-09, 12:08 PM
Has anyone here had the opportunity to demo these?

Yes.

I found they still had some the grating sound typical of JBL units.

The attempts Ive heard that seek to describe them as an alternative to full range monitors are simply wishful thinking.

Im not saying they are a bad speaker, far from it, they're just not what certain sectors have claimed.

gregt777
08-26-09, 02:39 PM
Yes.

I found they still had some the grating sound typical of JBL units.

The attempts Ive heard that seek to describe them as an alternative to full range monitors are simply wishful thinking.

Im not saying they are a bad speaker, far from it, they're just not what certain sectors have claimed.

Wow!! Describe to me this grating sound your talking about, its the first I`ve heard about it. At this price level, it does not sound good.

Dennis Erskine
08-26-09, 05:11 PM
Those speakers need a very large room to sound anywhere near good ... I speaking of seating distances in the 30 to 40 foot range.

joeycalda
08-26-09, 05:28 PM
Wow!! Describe to me this grating sound your talking about, its the first I`ve heard about it. At this price level, it does not sound good.

I'm more confused by your statement. You claimed you heard them and they were spectacular. But then again when I was a teen I thought my Volkswagon Scirocco was the bomb!

Seriously though it may be that CM has heard the best of the best and that will always alter your perception of anything that does not meet those standards. I am sure there great, since he did not totally thrash them.

mikeybx
08-26-09, 06:50 PM
But then again when I was a teen I thought my Volkswagon Scirocco was the bomb!

I'm more confused by your statement. When I was a teen my scirocco was the bomb =S

filecat13
08-27-09, 08:10 PM
Yes.

I found they still had some the grating sound typical of JBL units.

The attempts Ive heard that seek to describe them as an alternative to full range monitors are simply wishful thinking.

Im not saying they are a bad speaker, far from it, they're just not what certain sectors have claimed.

I found this post to have some of the grating sound typical of those who prejudge speakers by brand and type.

filecat13
08-27-09, 08:16 PM
Those speakers need a very large room to sound anywhere near good ... I speaking of seating distances in the 30 to 40 foot range.

Yes, a big room definitely helps. I think 40 feet is a gross overstatement, but you're the pro and I'm not mocking your opinion.

My more pedestrian taste found them quite pleasing at 20-25 feet. Apparently some Japanese JBL worshippers are stuffing them into Tokyo apartments. That would be too close for me to enjoy them at any level.

Dennis Erskine
08-28-09, 07:02 AM
FileCat13....abuse noted and earned.. :) 40' is a stretch; but, closer than 25-30' they are a bit much. At +40', there are better choices. My bad. Busted. Thanks.

The Bogg
08-28-09, 04:33 PM
They were demoed at a show last year and from the pics it looked like people were sitting much closer than 20 feet from them. They received high praise from multiple members of the audio press in that relatively small room. Would love to hear them.

gregt777
09-02-09, 02:47 PM
Well, it seems we have some very heart felt opionions about these JBls. Listen, I `m not going to buy these. But for the design, construction and build quality, and of course the sound, they were very good. I thought it was good to see a company like JBL from back in the day, step up and make a mark. We hear about the Revels, Wilsons, and others all the time. Good for JBL....

coldmachine
09-02-09, 03:27 PM
I found this post to have some of the grating sound typical of those who prejudge speakers by brand and type.

My post was based on direct experience, nothing else. I am also not alone in the observation. Similar experiences were had with the JBL Synthesis, and again, I'm not alone.

I don't prejudge speakers, or other equipment, by brand or type, the very opposite is true. I listened to the JBL units as a genuine contender for my new HT, as they were described, by an acquaintance and owner, as being an alternative to the established large monitor options. This proved not to be the case. I had also previously auditioned the Synthesis for my media room and rejected them purely on the basis of performance.

My post clearly indicated that they were far from being a bad speaker. They just don't perform as well as some people have indicated.

I assume from the nature, and tone, of your reply that you are a JBL enthusiast, with a posting profile to match. Thats great, but others may have a contrary view, based on experience rather than bias.

coldmachine
09-02-09, 03:32 PM
They were demoed at a show last year and from the pics it looked like people were sitting much closer than 20 feet from them. They received high praise from multiple members of the audio press in that relatively small room. Would love to hear them.

I heard them at around 12-14ft.

Anyone in the market at that price point should give them a spin.

I just found that, when compared to the cream of the big actives, they came up short. There are better units available from a number of the usual suspects.

The Bogg
09-02-09, 03:39 PM
I heard them at around 12-14ft.

Anyone in the market at that price point should give them a spin.

I just found that, when compared to the cream of the big actives, they came up short. There are better units available from a number of the usual suspects.

Thanks for your opinion. I know you've had direct experience with lots of excellent monitors so it's an educated as an opinion as there probably is. If the chance comes up I'm certainly going to listen to them.

The Bogg
09-07-09, 10:35 PM
Just saw a post on ultimateavmag.com that JBL has introduced the K2 S9900, which basically looks like the Everest but with 1 woofer. Looks less short and fat with the more conventional proportions. Cheaper too of course.

filecat13
09-08-09, 04:20 PM
My post was based on direct experience, nothing else. I am also not alone in the observation. Similar experiences were had with the JBL Synthesis, and again, I'm not alone.

I don't prejudge speakers, or other equipment, by brand or type, the very opposite is true. I listened to the JBL units as a genuine contender for my new HT, as they were described, by an acquaintance and owner, as being an alternative to the established large monitor options. This proved not to be the case. I had also previously auditioned the Synthesis for my media room and rejected them purely on the basis of performance.

My post clearly indicated that they were far from being a bad speaker. They just don't perform as well as some people have indicated.

I assume from the nature, and tone, of your reply that you are a JBL enthusiast, with a posting profile to match. Thats great, but others may have a contrary view, based on experience rather than bias.

Well, I finally have time to get back to this, then I promise I'll drop it. :)

That's a nice straw man ("you are a JBL enthusiast") you've made there, but it's irrelevant.

Consider:

I found they still had some the grating sound typical of JBL units.

I found they still had some (of) the honking sound typical of Klipsch units.

I found they still had some (of) the anemic sound typical of Polk units.

I found they still had some (of) the pompous sound typical of Wilson units.

I found they still had some (of) the glaring sound typical of Bose units.

I found they still had some (of) the muddy sound typical of Sonus Faber units.


As soon as you throw in a disparaging adjective and proclaim it typical for a brand, I consider it prejudicial. There had to be a pre-existing notion of a speaker brand's characteristics in order for that reflexive evaluation to take place.

Now to be fair, I want to assure all readers I chose those words and brands *somewhat* at random, so don't accuse me of hating any of them. They're examples, not statements of fact. I have a strong feeling that there are wide variations in sound within various brands. I also have a strong feeling that if I think Wilson's typically sound pompous, then I'll hear pompous.

Plus there's the reinforcing nature of shared opinion. If I think they're muddy and you think they're muddy, then when we tell John smith, he'll be predisposed to think they're muddy, too.

Anyway, that's it. I'm moving on. Thanks for reading.

Dizzman
09-08-09, 04:30 PM
and those would be YOUR opinions. If a member posts that they found an aspect to a model unsatisfactory in a broad comparison/testing, then that is what they found.

If you found
I found they still had some (of) the honking sound typical of Klipsch units.

I found they still had some (of) the anemic sound typical of Polk units.

I found they still had some (of) the pompous sound typical of Wilson units.

I found they still had some (of) the glaring sound typical of Bose units.

I found they still had some (of) the muddy sound typical of Sonus Faber units

then that is YOUR opinion.

And if i found bose to kick ass and rock my world... that would be MY opinion. :D

filecat13
09-08-09, 04:31 PM
Just saw a post on ultimateavmag.com that JBL has introduced the K2 S9900, which basically looks like the Everest but with 1 woofer. Looks less short and fat with the more conventional proportions. Cheaper too of course.

Not surprisingly, both were designed by the same guy. The K2 S99000 is probably a better piece for normal situations. It doesn't require the kind of space the Everest DD66000 does. (Dennis is right about that. :) )

Yet, I'd still fear it in a normal-sized room. It's going to need some space to open up as well. I have one room that's probably big enough, but I think it's off limits, at least until i give up one of the other rooms.*

Cheap is relative, of course, but I guess pound-for-pound it's a much better deal.

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*Plus, I'm still looking at that room as perfect for some Revel Ultima2 Salons, which mercifully, have no horns. I'm sure they'd be easier to sneak in.

coldmachine
09-08-09, 05:12 PM
That's a nice straw man ("you are a JBL enthusiast") you've made there, but it's irrelevant.

I have to refute that. I took a guess, based on the nature of your post. Repeating that same process now, I would have to conclude that, in the first instance, I was actually correct in my conclusion.

Please indulge me, are you a JBL enthusiast, and do you have a high post count on things JBL?

I understand if you don't wish to respond, having moved on.

Good luck and happy listening.

ifor
09-08-09, 07:22 PM
Just saw a post on ultimateavmag.com that JBL has introduced the K2 S9900, which basically looks like the Everest but with 1 woofer. Looks less short and fat with the more conventional proportions. Cheaper too of course.

The K2 S9900 replace the K2 S9800 models. The new models are said to outperform the 9800's. I've heard the 9800's and are similiar to the Everest but look nicer to me. I haven't heard the 9900's yet.