Just two weeks away. This version comes with all that the Wii and PS2 did, plus Medieval Madness, No Good Gofers, and Arabian Nights.

newegg is preordering it for $27.99, free shipping.

IGN just did a hands on and loved it. They said it looks and plays great. Several videos posted. Physics look much better than Zen Pinball.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/101/1016581p1.html

Hopefully it has good leaderboard integration.

Liked the Wii version and am tempted to get it again for the PS3.

Holy crap? Did you say Medieval Madness?

TROLLS! (in a good way...if you've played the game)

And how come the 360 version is $10 more?!?!? That sucks, as I'd rather get it for the 360.

LOL. I forgot about the Trolls! That alone probably cements my getting this title now.

LOL. I forgot about the Trolls! That alone probably cements my getting this title now.

That, by far, is the best pinball game ever made. My buddy even bought it...then moved to Florida. Jerk!
http://www.thepropers.com/images/200803/200803-050.jpg

That's me with the beer gut patiently awaiting my turn.

I can't wait to get this. Like, I really can't wait. Sure, he has the "real" one but he also paid like $3500 for it (or something ridiculous like that)

Have you guys ever played Theater of Magic? My favorite ever, but MM is up there too of course. They make THE best pinball games by far.

Would still love to see the Creature From the Black Lagoon title on these... DL content, anyone?

Too bad we will likely never see licensed machines. Addam's Family and Elvira, Mistress of the Dark were two of my favorites.

Addam's Family was good.

I seem to remember playing No Good Gophers and enjoying it, but honestly can't remember much about that specific table.

Still I am overjoyed about Medieval Madness, and that alone justifies the cost IMO.

I would kill to play Addam's Family.

I would think even more than $3500, at least if you were going to go with someone like actionpinball.com. This collection has some fantastic tables.

I really enjoy the simplicity of Firepower and Space Shuttle.

Black Knight
Firepower
Funhouse
Gorgar
Jive Time
Medieval Madness
No Good Gofers
Pin*Bot
Sorcerer
Space Shuttle
Taxi
The Tales of the Arabian Nights
Whirlwind

So Medieval Madness is in it? Was my understanding that was just a rumor spread through incorrect information posted at Amazon. No Good Gofers and Arabian Nights are the only extra tables I've seen confirmed.

"And how come the 360 version is $10 more?!?!? That sucks, as I'd rather get it for the 360."

It's not, the PS3 and 360 versions are both priced at $30 by Crave.

If your talking about versions on the PSP, PS2, and Wii, they're basically a different game that has been out for over a year. This is a expanded release with hd graphics and additional content.


Edit - Never thought to check out the achievement list, it is on there. :)

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/pinball-hall-of-fame/achievements/

And I see that Amazon does list the 360 version for $10 more, was supposed to also be priced at $30. They're also gouging PS3 purchases by a couple dollars as well. Hopefully it's a mistake and will be available for the more reasonable price of $30.

It's available elsewhere for preorder it MSRP at other online retailers.

Most of my favorites are licensed stuff (T2 especially).

But wish it had

-High Speed / The Getaway
-Theatre of Magic

But wish it had

-High Speed / The Getaway
-Theatre of Magic

I don't think those are Williams games. EDIT: my bad... High Speed is Williams.

That's awesome! I have it for the Wii and love it! I'll have to get the PS3 version though if it has Medievil Madness.

Now, if I could find Phantom of the Opera and Twilight Zone, I'd be all set :)

Now, if I could find Phantom of the Opera and Twilight Zone, I'd be all set :)

Data East and Midway/Bally, respectively.

So Medieval Madness is in it? Was my understanding that was just a rumor spread through incorrect information posted at Amazon. No Good Gofers and Arabian Nights are the only extra tables I've seen confirmed.

"And how come the 360 version is $10 more?!?!? That sucks, as I'd rather get it for the 360."

It's not, the PS3 and 360 versions are both priced at $30 by Crave.

If your talking about versions on the PSP, PS2, and Wii, they're basically a different game that has been out for over a year. This is a expanded release with hd graphics and additional content.


Edit - Never thought to check out the achievement list, it is on there. :)

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/pinball-hall-of-fame/achievements/

And I see that Amazon does list the 360 version for $10 more, was supposed to also be priced at $30. They're also gouging PS3 purchases by a couple dollars as well. Hopefully it's a mistake and will be available for the more reasonable price of $30.

It's available elsewhere for preorder it MSRP at other online retailers.


Medieval Madness is definately on this..........
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/puzzle/pinballhalloffamethewilliamscollection/news.html?sid=6211568&mode=previews

There is also a youtube video that I put a link to in the 360 thread that shows it running:)

First PS3 review I have seen from IGN.......



http://ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1026434p1.html


Sounds Good and cant wait to check this out.

Medieval Madness FTW!!!!

Best table I've ever played.

I've had this on order at Amazon since February. Got it at the $30 pre-order price. Can't wait to play some Gorgar. I wasted a lot of quarters on that one in my college days.

I've had this on order at Amazon since February. Got it at the $30 pre-order price. Can't wait to play some Gorgar. I wasted a lot of quarters on that one in my college days.

I preordered at newegg for a bit under $30 as well.....not bad:) Hope they ship this out soon.

Anyone get it yet? I called Gamestop and they said it's a 7 day ship title so it will probably be there next WEEK. Ugh.

Newegg voided/canceled my order for some reason:rolleyes: Just ordered through Amazon.

Got it today, and it is pretty good, although it has it share of weird things.

I own the actual "Sorcerer" pinball machine, so I wanted to compare the real game against the PS3 video game. Gotta admit, the PS3 game is quite good. There are some minor things that are different, but the kids and I like the video game.

So far, this is probably the best video game pinball I have played to date. The mechanics seem to be very good.

Definitely recommended.

So far, this is probably the best video game pinball I have played to date. The mechanics seem to be very good.Really? Even better than Pro Pinball: Timeshock! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Pinball:_Timeshock%21)? That I find hard to believe. If so I'll run out and buy it right now.

i play the psp version and ps2 version on the ps3...really enjoyed the experience and can't wait for the ps3 hd version with the added games. i actually got back into playing real pinball because of the crave pinball games. here's a couple i got to start my collection

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/vexvex/132.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/vexvex/098.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/vexvex/126.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/vexvex/134.jpg

(Lucky bastid :p) I just ordered the PS3 version from Amazon - can't wait!

I'm seriously interested in this and hope someone can compare to Zen Pinball. I only played the Zen demo, which I thought was OK, but it seems, based on gameplay videos I've seen of Williams, Zen has more fantasy (as in unrealistic) and overly complicated tables (for my tastes), where Williams is more firmly grounded in real tables of varying complexity that were, obviously, actually made and played.

Newegg voided/canceled my order for some reason:rolleyes: Just ordered through Amazon.

Mine too. :(

Mine too. :(

Just reorder it from Amazon for only ~$1.50 more.....they allready shipped mine out:)

I noticed the review on Amazon talks about a delay when hitting the flipper (L1,R1) buttons. This was my complaint with Zen Pinball. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

The Wii version of this game (released last year) plays great. It's one of the few Wii titles that did not disappoint when using Motion controls. I hope the PS3 version can keep pace with it.

I noticed the review on Amazon talks about a delay when hitting the flipper (L1,R1) buttons. This was my complaint with Zen Pinball. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

It could very well be lag caused by HDTVs. You don't notice that in 3D titles as much, but pinball is so instant in the control response that people who may have not noticed it before would notice it in this game. With that said, hold out for more responses to be sure if you are on the fence. I haven't seen that mentioned in pro reviews.

They actually mention the Wii version working correctly.

To be honest, I haven't seen any lag on my plasma screen when playing. I found this game to be more responsive than Zen Pinball and my biggest problem with Zen Pinball is when the ball goes down the sides, there seems to be a speed increase that happens which is annoying. This game doesn't have that issue.

However, if you had to choose, I would choose the Williams, because there are some classic Pinball games to play.

Game looks great in 1080p!

Ball moves cleanly not too fast,
but it's rendering does not look as real as it could,
the reflections dont seem to change as the ball moves?

Flipper action not as smooth as one might like,
trapping causes unexpected flips.
Meaning when you hold the flipper with the ball trapped
after a number of seconds it will often activate in error.

(Note this is an issue reported by some PS3 users only at this time,
in case your trying to decide between 360 / PS3 versions)

At $40 in Canada it seems priced on the high side compared to Zen's value,
but I prefer the feel of Hall of Fame with the older tables.

Want another great pinball game value,
try a classic, Pro Pinball Timeshock for the PC.
Runs fine on Windows 7 too. You can get it for about $6 online.

Have tried both the 360 and PS3 versions today.

The 360 version does NOT have the PS3 flipper issue.
Hopefully its something Crave will fix for PS3 users.

Have tried both the 360 and PS3 versions today.

The 360 version does NOT have the PS3 flipper issue.
Hopefully its something Crave will fix for PS3 users.

I am not sure what flipper issue you are talking about? I haven't experienced it yet.

Is it particular to one of the machines in the game?

^^^ It's actually mentioned in the ign.com review. While rare, a random flip press will sometimes occur while trapping the ball. Hopefully it is something that will be patched.

does it support custom soundtracks? thats one thing i really liked about ZEN Pinball. i can crank my tunes while i play it.

I noticed the review on Amazon talks about a delay when hitting the flipper (L1,R1) buttons. This was my complaint with Zen Pinball. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

did you try joeblow's custom settings for Zen Pinball to eliminate lag?

^^^ It's actually mentioned in the ign.com review. While rare, a random flip press will sometimes occur while trapping the ball. Hopefully it is something that will be patched.


Glad some don't have the issue.

It was NOT rare here using a original controller / PS3 playing Black Knight.
Happened all the time?

Glad some don't have the issue.

It was NOT rare here using a original controller / PS3 playing Black Knight.
Happened all the time?


Yikes, I hope that doesn't happen to me. Anyone else having this problem?

As the IGN review stated, it's because the controller will occasionally lose sync momentarily with the system. It's not a bug you'll find everytime or even most of the time when holding your ball.

And it's also not restricted to when your holding your ball, it's just when the error is most evident.

Uhhhhgggg!:( Might try and swap my PS3 version for the 360 version when it gets to my house.

I'm having no problems with that at all. Even held the flipper down for a good two minutes. Tried both R1/L1 and R2/L2 with no problems.

Has anyone found this anywhere in the Chicagoland area? :'(

I want to get it first thing tomorrow but I can't find any stores that have it.

interesting some dont have the flipper issue
I never had an issue on Zen but did on this game
playing wireless.

Maybe wired would work?

anyhow swapped my copy for the 360 version

did you try joeblow's custom settings for Zen Pinball to eliminate lag?

No, it was enough of an issue for me to not purchase after playing the demo.

^^^ It's actually mentioned in the ign.com review. While rare, a random flip press will sometimes occur while trapping the ball. Hopefully it is something that will be patched.

I must be lucky, but haven't experienced the issue at all after spending about an hour playing on various tables.

While I am sure it can happen with conflicts with the BT devices and other devices, so far, no conflicts here.

I did read the IGN review and hoped I wouldn't have it, and so far so good.

Good to hear. It is probably rare enough an issue to enjoy the game.

No, it was enough of an issue for me to not purchase after playing the demo.

Well adjusting the settings completely eliminates the lag in Zen so nice going with that one...

That wasn't the ONLY reason. About the time I found out about the settings, I found out about the Williams Pinball, so I decided to spend my money on it instead. I'd have it had Newegg not canceled my order on the day of delivery.

Just got this today from Toys R Us. VERY impressive. Very well done game. I actually like the concept of walking around the arcade to get to the games.

I hope they release Theater of Magic and others as DLC!! I'd easily pay $5 per table. Don't think that's expensive considering that it's basically like owning the machine and having it on free play for as long as you own your PS3.

I just wanted to chime in and say I just got the game and I'm having no trouble with lag or random flipper action-playing with a fat PS3 (2007 model) and a DS3 controller...

I'm going to rent and see how it goes. These lag issues scare me.

Whoohoo! I'm on the leaderboard top 20 for No Good Gofers! That probably won't last...

Could it be the new Dual Shock controller solves the issue?

I was having problems with the older six axis version.

There is another annoying bug...if you start the game with any other controller than 1, and you finish a table, the game will freeze after it drops you back to a table. Your controller will simply not work. At that point, if you try switching from 2nd (or whatever your controller was labeled) to 1st, you will get an error message. You have to quit and restart the game to get the control back.

This game is amazingly good. By far the best version Crave/Farsight have put out. I also own the Williams Collection on PS2 and PSP, as well as Gottlieb on PSP. This is far and away the most polished and playable.

I have not noticed lag (I am playing on a Slim with a Sixaxis, not DS3). If there are occasional bugs (such as on the older games when a ball might pass through a flipper), they have been once in every ten hours or so - probably better than the frequency of bugs on a physical table.

Graphics are super impressive, 1080p, almost no jaggies, rock solid framerate. Tables like Sorcerer and Tales of Arabian Nights have to be seen to be believed. This game is incredibly beautiful on a nice 1080p display.

Even if you have the game on PS2, it is well worth the upgrade for $30 on Amazon. You get 5 more tables and totally spectacular graphics, as well as online leaderboards. I think there are two minor faults - the trophies are beyond lame (place in the top 5 on a table - rinse, lather, repeat for each table... and no Platinum), and the leaderboards do not have robust sorting options.

Now if they release some DLC tables, I'll be happy as a pig in slop... the quality of this game has me salivating for more tables reproduced at this level.

I was experiencing some flipper lag, but it turned out to be due to my AV receiver. Connecting the PS3 directly to the TV HDMI fixed that and the responsiveness is excellent.

If you have a USB cable connected, you'll never get any controller glitching. Running wireless, my PS3 slim/DS3 combo will glitch on very rare occasion. My launch PS3 with six-axis does it pretty frequently though.

Anyone have ANY word on DLC being a possibility? Any hint of evidence?

Even if you have the game on PS2, it is well worth the upgrade for $30 on Amazon. You get 5 more tables and totally spectacular graphics, as well as online leaderboards. I think there are two minor faults - the trophies are beyond lame (place in the top 5 on a table - rinse, lather, repeat for each table... and no Platinum), and the leaderboards do not have robust sorting options.

I have to say that I agree totally with this. I have the ps2 version, but went ahead and upgraded to the PS3. I have no regrets paying $30 for a game I already had. The upgrade in graphics alone is enough for me to warrant the purchase. This is really a good game with great graphics. Trophies are lame in the game, but the game play and graphics are the main story here.

so for those of you who own both Zen Pinball and the Williams Collection, which game do you prefer?

I'm looking to get one of them. Since the price per table works out to be roughly the same, I guess it comes down to physics, table preference, disc vs download, online play vs not, and additional DLC tables (that Zen is supporting).

so for those of you who own both Zen Pinball and the Williams Collection, which game do you prefer?

I'm looking to get one of them. Since the price per table works out to be roughly the same, I guess it comes down to physics, table preference, disc vs download, online play vs not, and additional DLC tables (that Zen is supporting).

I have them both and I've enjoyed them both, but if I had to choose between the two I think I'd go with the Williams Collection. I don't know much about the physics (I just like to play), but my feeling is that when I'm playing the Williams Collection it's closer to a real pinball experience. That may be because the tables are based on real pinball machines. But maybe it's all in my head. For table preference, I like the tables on both so it's a toss-up. For disc vs download, it doesn't matter to me. It's convenient not to have to put a disc in, but it doesn't take a lot of effort to put one in the player. On-line: I don't play on-line so I don't know. I tried once to play Zen on-line, but couldn't get access. I don't if I couldn't get access to 0nline play because I'm in Honduras or if there was some technical difficulty on the board. Anyway, I haven't tried again. DLC: Zen is supporting additional tables through DLC, but so far there are only 5 tables available all total, I think. Whereas Williams has 13 available right now. Of course the price for Williams is much more, but you get a wide variety of tables (right now) and that works for me.

One thing that sways me toward the Williams Collection is that it's not as difficult to figure out the table goals as it is with Zen Pinball. I'm still trying to figure out on Zen what a lot of the goals are, but with Williams the table goals seem to be easier to figure out. But that might just be me. Others may have a different experience.

Anyway, those are my opinions. I hope it helps. Hopefully, others can chime in.

so for those of you who own both Zen Pinball and the Williams Collection, which game do you prefer?

I'm looking to get one of them. Since the price per table works out to be roughly the same, I guess it comes down to physics, table preference, disc vs download, online play vs not, and additional DLC tables (that Zen is supporting).

Definitely Williams Pinball. After spending hours with both including finishing the Williams challenge, the physics in Williams is much better and will feel closer to real Pinball. In the Williams game, the Pinball machines all act different. The slow tables are slow and the fast tables are fast. In Zen Pinball, all ball speeds act the same.

Even the kids like the Williams games better than Zen Pinball.

Also, having people over, there is a chance that someone will recognize a Williams Pinball game and want to play.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions in your comparisons between Williams and Zen. I'm also hoping someone can confirm for me how the High Score trophy for each table works. Do you actually need to top the global leader board to earn that table's bronze trophy, or is the "High Score" a local threshold you need to reach to get the trophy?

I would think that after the game's been out for a month or more, it would be nearly impossible to top the leader board unless you played a lot and got really good at it. I see myself playing more casually, but it's still nice to earn a few trophies along the way.

The high score trophy is not tied in to the leader boards. You simply have to make the top 4 or 5 (I don't remember which) high scores in-game. In other words, the game comes with high scores already built into the tables and when you best one of the scores you win the trophy. It seems to be pretty easy to do.

Trying to get better at Medieval Madness... such a good game!!!!!

My current pathetic high score is 126 million.

Anyone here good with Visual Pinball or whatever it's called? I used to have it working but since I reformatted I can't seem to get it working. It's so hilariously confusing! I want to be able to play Theater of Magic so bad. :(

Anyone here good with Visual Pinball or whatever it's called? I used to have it working but since I reformatted I can't seem to get it working. It's so hilariously confusing! I want to be able to play Theater of Magic so bad. :(

go here:
http://pinmame.retrogames.com/

and here:
http://www.vpforums.org/

The high score trophy is not tied in to the leader boards. You simply have to make the top 4 or 5 (I don't remember which) high scores in-game. In other words, the game comes with high scores already built into the tables and when you best one of the scores you win the trophy. It seems to be pretty easy to do.

Thanks! I'm definitely getting this.

so for those of you who own both Zen Pinball and the Williams Collection, which game do you prefer?

I'm looking to get one of them. Since the price per table works out to be roughly the same, I guess it comes down to physics, table preference, disc vs download, online play vs not, and additional DLC tables (that Zen is supporting).

If you're serious about Pinball, there is no competition. PHOF all the way.

I like ZP a lot. ZP led to me purchasing PHOF on multiple platforms. But now that PHOF is running on PS3 in 1080p, I almost never play ZP. More tables, real tables, classic tables.

If you don't know whether you're into pinball yet, get ZP. It's cheap and very good. But when you're ready for the real deal, get PHOF. It's superior in every way (except for the sorting of high scores).

Yeah, Zen is honestly a joke in comparison.

Anyone have ANY word on DLC being a possibility? Any hint of evidence?

I pray to whatever gods we all believe in that the Williams Star Trek TNG table is on its way...

But alas, I think there's about the chance of a snowball in you-know-where of this.

I would honestly pay $5 per table for DLC at this level of quality, though of course I'd hope they price it competitively with ZP's $2.50 per table.

Gotta say it is such a blast to put a chair dead center and very close to the tv when playing this.......:D

I just tried ZP's multiplayer with video chat (requires a PSEye. which I have for Singstar). Pretty sweet, worked quite well.

I wish PHOF had all of these extra features (that ZP does):
DLC tables
Multiplayer with chat
Sortable leaderboards

PHOF is still by far the superior game in terms of actual gameplay. But ZP has some compelling features.

Gotta say it is such a blast to put a chair dead center and very close to the tv when playing this.......:D

I wish I could do that, but my tv is mounted to the wall. Luckily it's not that far away, but still. ;)

I wish you could play it vertical :o

I wish I could do that, but my tv is mounted to the wall. Luckily it's not that far away, but still. ;)

I wish you could play it vertical :o


Vertical would be awesome!:p

I wish I could do that, but my tv is mounted to the wall. Luckily it's not that far away, but still. ;)

I wish you could play it vertical :o

That's exactly what I was going to ask. Darn! that would be awesome to flip a 46" or so LCD and drop it into an old pinball cabinet.

And I have to second disappointment in not having The Getaway. Of course I have that one so I am a little biased. :p

After racking up the high scores in No Good Gofers on the game, I tried playing the actual table and I was TERRIBLE. Granted, it was the night of my bachelor party and I had had more than a few drinks, and I don't think the table was in great condition, but it was really night and day.

Is anyone else playing the actual tables regularly, and if so, can you give us a rough comparison about difficulty? I found it nearly impossible to make ramp shots with any sort of power on the real table, while it was easy to do almost every time on the game.

I play the real table Sorcerer (I actually own it) and on the Williams game, and while there are differences, funny enough my high score on the real game and the video game are within range (approx. 500,000). The same tricks I use on both seem to work for the most part. The only real issue I have with the video game is the ability to hit the table. You would think they would use the Sony motion stuff for that. It is a little more difficult on the video game than the actual table but for the most part, the games are similiar enough that I would give it a 9.8 out of 10 in comparison.

BTW, while we're on this topic, I saw a "virtual pinball" arcade machine with the vertical layout as you described...it featured Funhouse and some others. I didn't get a chance to play it, but has anyone else seen that in the arcade?

BTW, while we're on this topic, I saw a "virtual pinball" arcade machine with the vertical layout as you described...it featured Funhouse and some others. I didn't get a chance to play it, but has anyone else seen that in the arcade?
I believe it is called Ultra-Pin.

http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=ultrapin&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick

I play the real table Sorcerer (I actually own it) and on the Williams game, and while there are differences, funny enough my high score on the real game and the video game are within range (approx. 500,000). The same tricks I use on both seem to work for the most part. The only real issue I have with the video game is the ability to hit the table. You would think they would use the Sony motion stuff for that. It is a little more difficult on the video game than the actual table but for the most part, the games are similiar enough that I would give it a 9.8 out of 10 in comparison.

God, Sorcerer is so much fun in this game. Just reading about it makes me want to play it! I envy you your table! :)

I play the real table Sorcerer (I actually own it) and on the Williams game, and while there are differences, funny enough my high score on the real game and the video game are within range (approx. 500,000). The same tricks I use on both seem to work for the most part. The only real issue I have with the video game is the ability to hit the table. You would think they would use the Sony motion stuff for that. It is a little more difficult on the video game than the actual table but for the most part, the games are similiar enough that I would give it a 9.8 out of 10 in comparison.

Hmm, I guess we'll just have to chalk it up to the gin and tonic, then. ;)

The place I went to didn't seem to take very good care of the pins, either. I counted no less than 4 tables where I hit the plunger and the ball got stuck almost immediately. And of course, I had no desire to pound on tables...so I just moved on.

Hey, does any one know if the magna-save feature can be utilized on the Black Knight table? If so, how? Is it a flipper press? A face button?

What's everyone's high score on Medieval Madness?

I am only at 182,000,000 :(

Trying to get higher and every time I have a really good first ball, my last 3-5 balls end up being terrible.

"only" 182,000,000? My high score is something like 65,000,000 . Of course I'm not much of a pinball wizard...I end up draining in the right outlane a lot.

Hey, does any one know if the magna-save feature can be utilized on the Black Knight table? If so, how? Is it a flipper press? A face button?

I haven't figured that out myself.

Here is hoping that it is supported.

What's everyone's high score on Medieval Madness?

I am only at 182,000,000 :(

Trying to get higher and every time I have a really good first ball, my last 3-5 balls end up being terrible.

I think mine's in the 40s.

I tend towards the "old school" tables more I think. The newer ones, while fun, can turn into long marathons. (destroying the castle seven times would take about an hour, at least for me)

Firepower, for instance, I just got #3 on the scoreboard, with 3 mil. I'd like to roll the counter on Gorgar, too, but I'm not there yet (lane change would have really helped!).

I just shot a 65 mil on Whirlwind... but it was only good enough for 18th :)

As for Magna-Save on the Black Knight table, I can confirm that it's supported in the Wii version of this game, so I don't think they would have taken it out.

As for Magna-Save on the Black Knight table, I can confirm that it's supported in the Wii version of this game, so I don't think they would have taken it out.

How do you do it on the Wii? Flipper? Plunger? Some other button?

What's everyone's high score on Medieval Madness?

I am only at 182,000,000 :(

Trying to get higher and every time I have a really good first ball, my last 3-5 balls end up being terrible.

305,000,000

What is the high score online for this table?

305,000,000

What is the high score online for this table?

550 Bazillion

305,000,000

What is the high score online for this table?

Somewhere around 1,220,000,000 last time I checked. Might be higher now.

Somewhere around 1,220,000,000 last time I checked. Might be higher now.


:eek:

WOW. I can only imagine how long that game took.

How do you do it on the Wii? Flipper? Plunger? Some other button?

Think it's the "A" button on the Wii. Or it might even be automatic, I don't remember...might check Gamefaqs for that answer. I'll fire it up this weekend too.

I finally rolled Gorgar over 1mil (just barely). Got 18th on the leaderboard.

It's funny how proud I am of that, when people get 300 mil on another table. Guess it goes to show how score was a relative thing inflated over time.

I really wish the PS3 trophies were better. They should be tied to the table goals and wizard goals, not high scores. I mean, I keep playing and all (because the game is so compellingly addictive and beautiful), but it would be nice to keep getting that extra little "da-ding!" of trophy rewards for in-game accomplishments.

Placing on the local high scoreboards for trophies was just too easy. I think I had all the trophies in about a day.

I've been playing this with the whole family and have had games that were unplayable because of the flipper spasms. What we found was that if one of use was playing single player we never had a problem with any of the controllers. However, in multi-player each with our own controller we would have the problem about half the time. Before the launch we check just by holding a flipper down and see if it is smooth and stays put. If so then we are good to go. If it is shaky or there's unintended flippiness, then we plug that controller in for a second. We can then unplug the controller and launch the ball.

Never once have I had a single flipper issue EVER.

I did load this game up the other day and scored I think 260,000 or something on Medieval madness. I think it might have been 360,000 I forgot, but check the high scores you'll see my name if you want to know the exact number.

Never once have I had a single flipper issue EVER.


Good for you! You want a medal or something? :D

Actually, I had the flipper problem for the first time just a couple of days ago. I ran an HDMI cable from the room with the PS3 to our TV in the living room. In multi-player mode the flippers did not always work properly. We thought maybe it was because of the distance of the controllers from the PS3 which was about 20 feet. We never had a problem with multi-player when we were in the same room where the Playstation is located. So, I don't know why we had the flipper problems.

We have not played the game since then, so I don't know if the flippers will work like always the next time we play. It'll be interesting to see. It's good to know that we can just plug the controller into the console and then disconnect it. Thanks for the tip.

I don't think I've had a flipper issue...although to be honest, I've only played multiplayer with more than one controller for about an hour.

Is there any way to upload previously-gotten high scores to the online leaderboards?

Not a big deal if not, since I can just keep playing and beat my old high score, but it was only after I noticed some of my lower scores were on the leaderboards but my highset one wasn't that I figured out you need to be signed in to PSN (I think) for a a score to get posted.

Quit playing with the clock!

Quit playing with the clock!

I see what you did there!

Let me raise this thread from the dead to say I finally bit and got a copy of it... what a fantastic title, especially for the price. It is definitely better than Zen Pinball for several reasons, and is the best video pinball game I've ever played.

The 1080P graphics are very nice, and unlike ZP, the flipper reaction is always instantly responsive. The main plus about this collection over ZP however is simply the superior gameplay quality of the tables. None of ZP's games can match Medieval Madness alone for simple "fun-ness" (let alone some of the other 12 tables), which surprisingly is a table I never even played before I got this collection. I'm closing in on my first 100 million points, and am having a blast with each attempt to improve my score.

This addicting collection is one of my favorite 2009 purchases, and if there is anyone on the fence about it, my advice is that they make a purchase immediately.

Let me raise this thread from the dead to say I finally bit and got a copy of it... what a fantastic title, especially for the price. It is definitely better than Zen Pinball for several reasons, and is the best video pinball game I've ever played.

The 1080P graphics are very nice, and unlike ZP, the flipper reaction is always instantly responsive. The main plus about this collection over ZP however is simply the superior gameplay quality of the tables. None of ZP's games can match Medieval Madness alone for simple "fun-ness" (let alone some of the other 12 tables), which surprisingly is a table I never even played before I got this collection. I'm closing in on my first 100 million points, and am having a blast with each attempt to improve my score.

This addicting collection is one of my favorite 2009 purchases, and if there is anyone on the fence about it, my advice is that they make a purchase immediately.

If this game only had Medieval Madness it would still be worth picking up. No Good Gophers is my family's current favorite.

NGG is one I'll have to get the hang of, but I'm not liking the right outlane that seems to kill me so often.

My second favorite table after MM is probably Taxi. It's pretty straight forward in what you are supposed to do to rack up points, but I used to play it at a laundrymat back in the day, and I still like the flow of it quite a bit.

Tales of the Arabian Nights is also a lot of fun, and it's the first table of the collection so far that I've beaten (completed all of the tales, saved the princess, killed the genie, and saw the digital ending story).

I wonder if there will be any DLC? Attack from Mars seems like a logical table to put up since it is done in the same style as MM.

NGG is one I'll have to get the hang of, but I'm not liking the right outlane that seems to kill me so often.

My second favorite table after MM is probably Taxi. It's pretty straight forward in what you are supposed to do to rack up points, but I used to play it at a laundrymat back in the day, and I still like the flow of it quite a bit.

Tales of the Arabian Nights is also a lot of fun, and it's the first table of the collection so far that I've beaten (completed all of the tales, saved the princess, killed the genie, and saw the digital ending story).

I wonder if there will be any DLC? Attack from Mars seems like a logical table to put up since it is done in the same style as MM.

NGG I would put a little below some of the others in the game but it has some crazy fun to it that we like. If I'm just playing by myself I will play MM and The Black Knight. I like Taxi a lot also and played it in real life as well. I also played the snot out of Whirlwind in real life.

In NGG always put out your right upper flipper when you coming down the right side. That right side sends you straight down too often if you don't hit it with the upper flipper first.

I would probably buy any and all DLC for this if they put any out.

I'd love to see DLC but I doubt it will happen. While the tables and the gameplay are great, the menus and little UI bugs seem to suggest that they didn't spend the time to build in a DLC system. I'd love to be proven wrong though!

They could simply update some of the non-interactive machines in the arcade by replacing them with DLC tables. The back room only has two machines right now, so they could add a few in there as an example.

brakel: thanks for the NGG tip!

I've managed to unlock the optional features of Space Shuttle. Whirlwind is my current favorite, followed by Firepower and Gogar. Oh, and the credits max out at 999.

By optional features, do you mean the Wizard goals of the table? I wish they counted accomplishments from play during the Standard goals towards the Wizard goals of the tables. I've had some good runs before I completed the first set of tasks. Oh well.

By optional features, do you mean the Wizard goals of the table? I wish they counted accomplishments from play during the Standard goals towards the Wizard goals of the tables. I've had some good runs before I completed the first set of tasks. Oh well.
I was referring to the locked options ie; tilt unlock, custom ball etc.

I understand now; great job! I just completed all of the goals (Normal, Wizard) on Firepower, so I've unlocked those features too. In fact, I had such a good session that I placed in the top-5 all time for the online leaderboard for this table.

That must have been some game! Those side lanes on Firepower are unforgiving. Now I just unlocked Whirlwind. The Mega door Bonus was the last and toughest. Still not quite sure how I got that one!

Well, the revival of this thread made me pick up the game yesterday. Wow, best virtual pinball game I've ever played. I can see myself getting lost for hours in this.

Love the table information, but my only gripe is that most have 84 pages of info, and it's a b!tch to scroll through the pages to get to what you're looking for.

I like the copious amounts of info. When I was a kid, I never really knew there were so many ways to score on a table, I just had to work with the obvious clues (lighting up rollovers, instructions painted on the table).

I like the copious amounts of info. When I was a kid, I never really knew there were so many ways to score on a table, I just had to work with the obvious clues (lighting up rollovers, instructions painted on the table).

Same here - I love it. It explains what I never understood when I actually played a few of these back in the day.

I just wish I could go from page 1 to page 84 by scrolling backwards. It seems the last few pages are the ones that explain the table challenges.

I'm now closing in on 200 million for Medieval Madness, and more importantly I got soooo close to defeating the table. I killed most of the castle lords, saved all of the damsels, completed the mob uprisings, won the jousting missions, launched all of the catapults (and even got to barnyard catapult for the first time), and killed all of the trolls required.

The last two castles were taking so many hits to break through that I lost my concentration. I'll be ready next time though since I came up with a new trapping technique that seems to work every time when aiming for the doors.

I'm now closing in on 200 million for Medieval Madness, and more importantly I got soooo close to defeating the table. I killed most of the castle lords, saved all of the damsels, completed the mob uprisings, won the jousting missions, launched all of the catapults (and even got to barnyard catapult for the first time), and killed all of the trolls required.

The last two castles were taking so many hits to break through that I lost my concentration. I'll be ready next time though since I came up with a new trapping technique that seems to work every time when aiming for the doors.

Nice. I have yet to break 100 million but it is one of my favorite tables.

Wow. I just hit 55 million on it and thought that was good. Looks like I got a ways to go.

I'm playing ZEN again, but it's revitalized my interest in this title. Pinball is definitely more involved and more difficult than I thought, but I love the challenge. I'm not very good, but I'm getting better. Seems it just takes learning a table through and through to get good. When I switch tables, I pretty much revert back to being sorry again. Averaging around 17 Million on El Dorado in ZEN, which I know is probably peanuts to some in here, but I'll get there. Joe's story above really puts it into perspective how much I am not the pinball wizard.

All the same, I'll be grabbing this one before too long.

Got this for xmas and finally had a few minutes to play. Very pretty. These things have come a long way from ancient video pinball games (like 10 years ago). A lot of fun. But I stink.

Don't care for the faux arcade navigation, but eh. What view do you guys favor?

What view do you guys favor?

I'm curious about what others choose too.

Me - I switch between different views depending on the table - if there's lots going on at the top of the table I like the view that zooms up there, but it can cause problems when the ball comes flying down the middle.

I think my default is usually smart camera #2?

I just picked this up a couple days ago (for the 360, but it's the same thing), and I have been switching between smart #2 and #3 trying to figure out which one I like.

Of course, the only table I'm playing is Medieval Madness since that's the sole reason I bought it. I've only given the other tables a cursory play for now.

Got this for xmas and finally had a few minutes to play. Very pretty. These things have come a long way from ancient video pinball games (like 10 years ago). A lot of fun. But I stink.

Don't care for the faux arcade navigation, but eh. What view do you guys favor?

My view choices are based mostly on strategy. If the two lower lanes of a table that lead to my flippers allows me to cycle through lights to spell something (like Medieval Madness), I go with one of the locked standard cams so I can always see which lanes I need to unlight no matter where the ball is. If there are no lights that I can control down there (like Taxi), I go with Smart Cam #5.

My view choices are based mostly on strategy. If the two lower lanes of a table that lead to my flippers allows me to cycle through lights to spell something (like Medieval Madness), I go with one of the locked standard cams so I can always see which lanes I need to unlight no matter where the ball is.

I do the same exact thing!

I haven't played this game in like 2 months, but I need to beat my 380,000~ score in MM sometime.

I usually hit square, circle immediately after launch on most of the tables. That puts me in the second fixed view. Exceptions are Black Knight where I play the default smart cam, Whirwind where I play the default fixed cam and NGG where I play one of the other fixed cams (might be 5).

380,000 in Medival Madness? You can get 380,000 without ever touching the ball!

I find it very frustrating that you can't save your own default views for each table.

380,000 in Medival Madness? You can get 380,000 without ever touching the ball!


Oops! Guess it was 380 million! Haven't played in awhile.

Oops! Guess it was 380 million! Haven't played in awhile.

That's a pretty good score. I think my high score for MM is only 60 million. I'm still working on mastering that table.

I ordered it from Amazon for 19.99 last night due to this thread. Hope it won't disappoint.

The view really depends on the table.

For instance, Arabian Nights is almost unplayable to me in any view but #5. I've got a 50" 1080p TV and 20/20 vision, but there is so much tiny stuff on that table that 5 is the only good compromise.

I ordered it from Amazon for 19.99 last night due to this thread. Hope it won't disappoint.

You are getting a TON of entertainment for 20 bones. This is the best pinball game I've ever played, and you're getting each table for a buck fifty. You'd spend more than that at a real arcade just to play each game twice.

You are getting a TON of entertainment for 20 bones. This is the best pinball game I've ever played, and you're getting each table for a buck fifty. You'd spend more than that at a real arcade just to play each game twice.

Got it yesterday and played for about 1.5 hours. Lots of fun so far. My wife even played a few games with me.

My only slight complaint is that there are so many really old machines and only a few from teh 90s.

Is it my imagination, or does Gorgar use the same sound effects as Joust?

Is it my imagination, or does Gorgar use the same sound effects as Joust?

Probably not your imagination - I've noticed a table or two had Defender sound effects - Joust and Defender are Williams games.

Got it yesterday and played for about 1.5 hours. Lots of fun so far. My wife even played a few games with me.

My only slight complaint is that there are so many really old machines and only a few from teh 90s.

Is it my imagination, or does Gorgar use the same sound effects as Joust?

I have a theory on why there are not many new machines on these collections. I think it's because almost all newer tables use a movie or TV license. So they would have to pay extra for stuff like Addams Family, Twilight Zone, Dr. Who, etc. I doubt these games have a big enough budget for something like that.

Good point above. I was wondering the same thing.

Hopefully they come out with another collection that includes some more recent machines that aren't Williams or tied to a license. This game feels so much more natural then Zen Pinball.

Got it yesterday and played for about 1.5 hours. Lots of fun so far. My wife even played a few games with me.

My only slight complaint is that there are so many really old machines and only a few from teh 90s.

Is it my imagination, or does Gorgar use the same sound effects as Joust?

Tales of the Arabian Nights, Funhouse, No Good Gofers, Medieval Madness, and Whirlwind are all from the '90s. That seems like a good representation to me. There are certainly many non-licensed properties that are from the '90s and were not included. But they couldn't include them all at that price. I think there's a good representation of SS tables. I'm glad there is only one EM table. I would have liked to have seen White Water from the early '90s. Fun table but tempermental. I don't think I ever played a White Water table that wasn't broken in some way. That's one of the great things about video pinball. The table is always level and all the targets, etc. work!

What we really need is some DLC!

Good point above. I was wondering the same thing.

Hopefully they come out with another collection that includes some more recent machines that aren't Williams or tied to a license. This game feels so much more natural then Zen Pinball.

A Bally collection would be cool. It would need to have every version of Eight Ball though! You'd think that some of the licenses would be easy to get and some would be impossible.

Since this collection came out for $30, it seems do-able to release a collection of licensed tables for, say, $50. I can't imagine that the media companies would turn down $20 split up amongst them to put out a recreation of an old pinball game. Crappy, non-pinball licensed games come out all the time to think that it can't be done.

After playing this, I would no doubt pay $50 for some licensed tables to be included. I hope sales of this and the Gottlieb collection spur them to release another title.

Did they ever say that they would release DLC? I've seen a couple posts mentioning this, but was late to the party picking up this game.

I'm skeptical that DLC was intended as a part of this package, but it would be cool. I would think another disc would be more likely - possibly another company's collection.

Also, I wouldn't hold your breath for licensed tables... licensing is unbelievably tricky, especially when logos, music and/or voices are involved. :o

I'm not saying neither will happen, but I seriously doubt it.

I'm skeptical that DLC was intended as a part of this package, but it would be cool. I would think another disc would be more likely - possibly another company's collection.

Also, I wouldn't hold your breath for licensed tables... licensing is unbelievably tricky, especially when logos, music and/or voices are involved. :o

I'm not saying neither will happen, but I seriously doubt it.

Besides the owner of the rights of the property in general, there is music, voice overs, likenesses used on the table, etc. Most likely none of the people involved signed a contract that included home video console game use for the pinball game.

Sigh, licensing issues... don't get me started on Singstar...

If they just released a Gottlieb collection at the same level of quality as he Williams one, I'd be happy.

The PS2 and PSP Gottlieb's are nearly unplayable compared to the PS3 Williams. I'd really like to see them update it.

By the way, in case anyone here hasn't picked it up, Zen Pinball is now $5 on the PSN. No telling for how long, probably two weeks.

By the way, in case anyone here hasn't picked it up, Zen Pinball is now $5 on the PSN. No telling for how long, probably two weeks.
I liked Zen when I first got it, but after playing thru the Williams Collection, if you don't have either put the $5 towards the Williams - it's a far better pinball experience - much better physics and table variety. Zen for $5 isn't a bad deal, but the Williams price is a bargain IMO...

I played all the way through the Williams Challenge last night, and then failed to get 15M on Medieval Madness. That should have been easy! Next time I'll have to take a few breaks. I think that I lost my concentration and my eyes were tired after playing for an hour straight.

I played all the way through the Williams Challenge last night, and then failed to get 15M on Medieval Madness. That should have been easy! Next time I'll have to take a few breaks. I think that I lost my concentration and my eyes were tired after playing for an hour straight.
My first try I think I made it to the final table & then choked - very disappointing. I eventually made it through on my 3rd try I think. Guess that made it a sense of accomplishment at least that it wasn't a gimme challenge...

Man, I wish they had a platinum trophy on this game...it's about the only one that I would actually take the time to get.

I finally got the barnyard on medieval madness. My high score now is 95 million. Would really like to beat this table.

I liked Zen when I first got it, but after playing thru the Williams Collection, if you don't have either put the $5 towards the Williams - it's a far better pinball experience - much better physics and table variety. Zen for $5 isn't a bad deal, but the Williams price is a bargain IMO...

I agree that PHOF:WC is far superior. I already have it. But ZP is a fine game in its own right, and $5 is $5.

So how do you get Barnyard multiball? Do you have to knock out every item on the catapult, or just the chicken, cat, and cow?

I've cleared 100 million on this table but have not opened Barnyard Multiball.

Bought it today for 9.99 @ GS. Thought I'd share for those still on the fence. Pretty good compared to Zen @ 4.99

So how do you get Barnyard multiball? Do you have to knock out every item on the catapult, or just the chicken, cat, and cow?

I've cleared 100 million on this table but have not opened Barnyard Multiball.

Launch all five of the "animals", and then simply go for another catapult lock to start it.

I just started playing this over the past couple weeks. Great game, BTW!
However, being the trophy hunter I am, I am a bit frustrated with Pinbot: getting 2 mil. for that table's trophy and getting 600,000 for the Williams Challenge. Almost every other table I get the minimum score for the trophy in my 2nd or 3rd attempt. On Pinbot, the ball goes down the side drains too easily.

Does any one have Pinbot tips they can share? Thanks.

On Pinbot, the ball goes down the side drains too easily.


Wait till you play Jive Time...

5 balls per game. All down the left side.

Love this game! My buddy had loaned me the earlier Wii version, which was OK. I had to get this version for the PS3 because of the added Medieval Madness and Tales of the Arabian Nights. I bought Zen during that $5 deal period.

Gotta agree that the arcade and overall user interface outside of the tables is clunky and behind the times. Good thing they seemed to spend the money where it counts most -- game play.

The one goal that's eluded me on Arabian Nights is the Harem Multi-ball. I understand the instructions, but I just can't seem to put the ball where it needs to go when the purple light is on. It seems to go away mighty fast.

FWIW, my high scores are 66mm for Arabian Nights and 79mm for MM.

I just started playing this over the past couple weeks. Great game, BTW!
However, being the trophy hunter I am, I am a bit frustrated with Pinbot: getting 2 mil. for that table's trophy and getting 600,000 for the Williams Challenge. Almost every other table I get the minimum score for the trophy in my 2nd or 3rd attempt. On Pinbot, the ball goes down the side drains too easily.

Does any one have Pinbot tips they can share? Thanks.

Try changing table views. This was the hardest trophy as I had the same problem, but when I played around with some table views, I noticed that the ball didn't go down the right side drain as often, which was killing me.

Changing table views worked for me.

Try changing table views. This was the hardest trophy as I had the same problem, but when I played around with some table views, I noticed that the ball didn't go down the right side drain as often, which was killing me.

Changing table views worked for me.

I'll try that. Thanks!

Edit: Woo Hoo! Just got the bronze trophy for Pinbot while attempting the Williams Challenge. Scored almost 3 mil on Pinbot, but then choked on Whirlwind. I'll save that for another day. :D

The one goal that's eluded me on Arabian Nights is the Harem Multi-ball.

Definitely hard! The loop always seems to be the Tiger Loop.

After dozens of attempts, I got mad at fighting the GENIE. So noisy!
I decided the fighting was enuf... and to not hit that ramp that game.
And that payed off. Kept the ball in play and bingo, HAREM.

I will say, the Expert Goals are much harder ! ;-)

Has anyone had Jive Time basic table goals glitch on them?

I've gotten three of them, but twice after getting the ball in the spinner hole and having the spinner land on 10,000 points, I didn't get the "10,000 Bonus Points" table goal even though the points did register in my total score for that game. Is there some other way you're supposed to get that table goal?

well i suggest combining two games and sell it for 70 bucks and if it an really old game just sell it for 35 bucks. try ebay or amazon. or even gamestop but they will just give you like 5 bucks each either good luck.

Um.... what?

zookster,

you have to light up the 10 lights down the middle by the flippers (the top being 10k) then get the spinner to land on "board bonus" or whatever the exact verbiage is.

That goal is one PITA.

zookster,

you have to light up the 10 lights down the middle by the flippers (the top being 10k) then get the spinner to land on "board bonus" or whatever the exact verbiage is.

That goal is one PITA.

Thanks for the tip. I actually finally got it not knowing that's what I had to do. Now the bigger PITA: getting 100,000 on that table!

I have the Zen game, plus the Marvel game.. The Marvel game is a improvement physics wise, & the tables are MUCH better IMO.. I bought every Zen table. NG2 is pretty cool. I like the different stages & missions each table has, which keeps you playing & winning trophys.. I will compare then to the Williams games.. TW. TZ.. Would love to play those tables.. A Mortal Kombat table.. Pinball machines are truly a piece of art.. & very hard to stop playing since you always want to better your top score.. Kids now days are more interested in K/D ratio in COD12..) Truly a piece of history.. I'd love to have a gaming room with just pin ball machines.. Give me 10 & I'll be happy. I haven't played my PS3 this much since NG in 08.. My main gripe was over obsessed idiots tilting the table till it would nearly fall just to save their ball..Nice way to ruin the machine.. Or putting pizza & coke on the table.. Disrespectful.. Yes.. I love these vintage wonders.

I will compare all 3.. If you have any questions let me know..