I feel like a real..well, idiot. I just recently bought a Yamaha RX-465 receiver and set it up initially with the "YPAO" feature, which to my pleasant surprise, did a very decent job of "balancing" my speaks. (the surround effect is MUCH better than with my old receiver..even after I tweaked the heck out of it)
My question: I like bright "crisp" highs...have I mentioned how dumb I feel asking this?....I want to at least get crisper highs out of my FRONTS, but it's been so many years since I was "into" all of this that I can't remember what to do. Heck, the last time I had an EQ it was a "5 bander" from Radio Shack! (I loved that stupid thing..hehe!) I'm used to just sliding "bars", usually the last two (don't laugh). What frequencies am I shooting for...there's TOO much information now. I guess whats throwing me off is the Hz/Khz stuff. I don't want to go nuts with it, I just want to bump up the "crispness" of the tweets a little. Any help with this is very much appreciated. I'm loving my gear FINALLY, but this "issue" is making me a litle nuts, and I don't want to play aroun:confused:d too much and make things WORSE! Again, thanks for your time.

I guess whats throwing me off is the Hz/Khz stuff.

Hz is cycles per second. Khz is thousands of cycles per second. So, 1000Hz is the same as 1Khz. The higher the number of cycles per second, the higher the tone or pitch of the sound. Very low frequencies, or tones, would be between 20Hz and 80Hz, the two lowest octaves most people can hear. Very high frequencies, or tones, would be between 5Khz and 20Khz, the two highest octaves humans can hear, well, at least young humans. We lose high frequency sensitivity as we age.

My question: I like bright "crisp" highs...have I mentioned how dumb I feel asking this?....I want to at least get crisper highs out of my FRONTS...
Peter pointed you in the right direction - the highs are above ~5 kHz. For what you want, a simple high shelving filter boosted a few dB should do it. If the receiver has some kind of treble tone control in the menu, that should do it - just turn it up a bit. The problem is if it's affecting the front channels, or all the speakers. Many older Yamaha receivers have traditionally sent the tone controls to the front speakers only, but you'll have to check this out for yourself to see exactly what your receiver is doing (the manual may or may not say). Also, it's possible that a manual tone control change will bypass all the YPAO settings...

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

I to have a Yammy with the YPAO(1800 model). If you run that setup again but change the type to "natural" as opposed to "flat" that should boost the highs a little bit more. I have a couple of saved settings in mine that all have the same type of decoding, I think I use sci-fi, then have the different eq types(natural or flat) for different movie types.

Thanks to everybody. Your time is appreciated...From what I understood from the manual, I'm supposed to be able to tweak it further, even AFTER setting up with the YPAO. (I'll TRIPLE check that!) And, you're right about the fronts. From the adjustments on the RECEIVER front (bass/treble) only the fronts are effected. That's why I wanted to go into the EQ and "play"..see if I could bump up the high end. I did, but noticed little (if any) difference when I did. My Onkyo had beautiful, crisp, NON harsh highs, and this Yamaha, though I'm thrilled with it, can't seem to deliver that, which surprises the heck out of me. (disappoints me actually) I felt like a boob about the Hz/Khz thing..I should know that...I was just used to sliding bars! Again, thanks Peter and Wayne. I DO appreciate it!

Thanks Tattoo! Every single suggestion helps, and again, is much appreciated...

"We lose high frequency sensitivity as we age."

Ha! Maybe THAT'S my problem! (IN MY HEAD, I'm still in my 20's..my ears? well...)

Come to think of it, my dad had a severe problem with that, high frequencies became almost non-existant..

God I'm gettin' old...

The default for YPAO on my 1800 is Natural. This is rolled off at higher frequencies. Have you tried running YPAO with Flat? I think that would be closer to what you're looking for.

The default for YPAO on my 1800 is Natural. This is rolled off at higher frequencies. Have you tried running YPAO with Flat? I think that would be closer to what you're looking for.
Wow, now I REALLY feel dumb.I'm gonna have to take another look at the manual. I just ran the YPAO..I didn't realize you could make adjustments to it. I thought it just..well, ran. (analyzed speaker distances/levels etc...in that case it worked WELL) I wasn't aware that you could run it with different settings. Hmm...
Thanks for the help jpco...I'm gonna yank out that manual again! I hope you're right..I'm DYIN' for more crispness out of my tweets..

UPDATE: 8/30/09 Sure enough, I missed seeing where I could change the settings for the YAPO. Thanks jpco...I guess I was in such a hurry to hook up my new toy I missed it somehow. It seems better. (I set it to FLAT, the re-ran YPAO) Well, it IS better, not as crisp as I'd hoped but a definite improvement. Thanks..again..to everybody for all of your help and suggestions...and again..your time is much appreciated.