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zBuff
08-29-09, 04:44 AM
So this game has just come out. What's the game like? anything like the old Bruce Lee game on the Amiga? Also what is it like on 3D TVs?

Anthony1
08-30-09, 02:37 AM
I didn't know this game was coming to PS3 too. I have a 3D ready plasma, the Samsung PN50A450. I also have the Samsung shutterglasses and the emitter. I was going to try the demo for this game on Xbox 360, but neither of my Xbox 360's have HDMI output, which means no stereoscopic 3D. I'm about 99 percent sure that it requires a HDMI port for the stereoscopic 3D to work. But obviously my PS3 has HDMI, so I can try it on that.

The only thing I'm wondering about with the PS3, is if it will output the resolution that my Samsung needs to work in 3D mode. My particular Samsung will only work in 3D mode if given one of two resolutions, either 1360 x 768 or 1024 x 768. I know that the Xbox 360 can output at 1360 x 768 when using the VGA cable, but I'm not sure if it can when using HDMI. I'm also not sure if the PS3 can output at 1360 x 768 when playing this game. In other words... I might be screwed either way, lol.

Hopefully, the programmers of this game made it so that it can pop into different resolutions depending on what your specific TV needs for the 3D magic to work. I remember seeing a menu screen for this game from GDC, and I'm pretty sure in the 3D options it had my TV listed as one of the options. If I find out anything definitive, I'll report back.

Anthony1
08-30-09, 02:51 AM
I just went to the official website for the game to try to get more information regarding the 3D.

Here is the website if anybody else is interested:

http://www.invincibletiger.com/#/3d/info


Unfortunately, this game won't work with my TV when using the PS3. When using the PS3, I would need to have a 1080p TV, and my Samsung PN50A450 is a 720p display. Looks like maybe I should have payed the extra $450 to get the 1080p version. Oh well....

The game supposedly will work with the Xbox 360 on my TV, but unfortunately, none of my Xbox 360's have an HDMI output. I'm going to try to get ahold of a friends Xbox 360 to try it out. I would have much rather had it work via the PS3, because with the PS3, you don't have that issue of needing a special dongle to get optical audio while using the HDMI slot like you do with the 360. Also, PS3 games are shareable.

:(

d3code
08-30-09, 11:06 AM
i am playing the game in normal 2D and it is a pretty nice game. not to difficult but lot of fun.

also please try to get a xbox360 with hdmi. i really like to find out how people their experiences are with the 3D.
maybe when the avatar game comes out i will buy a new tv. depending how good that really will be.

zBuff
08-31-09, 04:23 AM
D3code what would you say the game is most similar to? I've looking at videos, but it seems to be a more random button mashing rather than strategical timed combos.

ppshooky
08-31-09, 10:57 AM
Is this a single player only game?

Anthony1
09-09-09, 03:30 PM
Ok, I finally was able to borrow a Xbox 360 with HDMI and try this out. I know this is the PS3 forums, but because d3code wanted my impressions on how it all worked, here it is ( I just copied and pasted my thread from the Xbox forum ) I'm sure the results would be pretty similar for the PS3 version of the game. Unfortunately, I don't have a 1080p 3D Ready display, so I can't try it on PS3.


My impressions of the first Stereoscopic 3D game on the Xbox 360


First, a little background info:

Last November, I decided to upgrade the HDTV in my living room. I had an old Sony rear-projection HDTV from 2002. It was a great TV for about 4 years, and then started to look really outdated. I ended up buying a 50" 720p Samsung plasma. Was able to get it for like $850 plus tax, which was a very good deal at that time. Anyways, when I get home with the TV and start unboxing it, I notice on the side of the TV box that it mentions "3D Ready" a number of times. I had heard a little bit here and there about various DLP TV's having a special 3D mode, but didn't know much about it. After going through the owners manual, I started reading more about the 3D feature. I started to get intrigued by it, and did more research. I heard that some companies were getting ready to have "true" stereoscopic 3D games for the 360 and PS3. I also heard rumors of a special Blu Ray player that could be compatible with Stereoscopic 3D.

I decided to purchase the Samsung shutterglasses and emitter that are recommended for this plasma. My idea at the time was that I was going to experiment with Stereoscopic 3D using my computer, until these games came out for the 360 or PS3, or until the special Blu Ray player came out. The glasses weren't exactly cheap. I bought 2 pairs of the glasses, because I wanted an extra person to be able to play with me, or be able to watch the movies. I also had to buy an emitter. It cost like $130.00 to get all that shipped to me. Anyways, I tried screwing around with my PC, and quickly realized that my PC was too old, and I would need to upgrade the PC. I put the glasses in storage and kinda forgot about them.



Flash Forward to now:

A couple of weeks back, I heard that Invincible Tiger: The Legend of Han Tao was about to release on Xbox Live Arcade. I remembered that this was supposed to be one of the first Stereoscopic 3D games on console. So I started bouncing around the net trying to find info on it. I discovered that for the 3D to work, you had to have an Xbox 360 with an HDMI port. I own two 360 machines, but neither has HDMI output. DAMN. So, I tried to get ahold of some friends of mine, to see if they had a 360 with HDMI that I could borrow for a couple of days. Finally, one of my buddies had a 360 with HDMI, and he said I could borrow it. I picked up his 360, took it home and hooked it up to my plasma. I had to use the HDMI 2 input on my plasma for it to work. I downloaded the free trial of Invincible Tiger. I went into the options and seleced the "Digital 3D" mode. I went into the advanced options and changed a few settings. The website for the game has recomendations for just about every 3D ready TV out there. They had some recomendations for mine, so I adjusted all the options for my particular TV. I hooked up my emitter to the back of the TV, and then put on my Samsung shutterglasses. I fired up the game, and wtf......?? The 3D wasn't working right... I was pissed off as hell. Then after about 20 minutes of trying to figure out what the problem was, I realized that the TV and game have to be synched up in terms of which eye to sync the signal to first. Either Left eye or Right eye. I had it set to Left eye in the game, but my TV was set to Mode 1, which turns out to be right eye. So I set my TV to Mode 2, and was good to go.


When you first start playing the game in 3D, you kinda wonder if it's actually working right. You wonder if you have it setup correctly, and if it's actually working in 3D. I think the reason for this, is that it take a few seconds for your eyes to get adjusted to the shutterglasses. But about 30 seconds later, I could definitely tell that the game was working in real, digital 3D. It was pretty freaking impressive. The first level of the game has you fighting these various guys, kinda Final Fight style, out in this courtyard. In the courtyard there are these leaves that are blowing around. When playing it in 3D, the leaves start blowing around, and it appears as though they are blowing out of your TV, it's pretty freaking sweet when you first see it. My immediate reaction was to yell for my sons or my wife to check it out. I had an extra pair of the Samsung shutterglasses and told them to put it on and check it out. They did, but didn't seem to be as blown away as I was. One of my sons friends was over, and he tried it, and he seemed to notice the 3D way more than they did. The 3D is a bit more subtle than you might imagine.


It's very hard to describe the 3D effect with words. The best way for me to explain it, is like this... Ok, you know how people have these model train sets, and they have a table that the train is on, with little houses, and little trees and buildings and stuff? Ok, well imagine that your TV is a three dimensional box, and inside that box is these little houses and little trees and buildings and stuff, and little characters running around. Well, basically, the 3D mode is like looking inside that box, and seeing the stuff being played out in 3D. Basically, you get a sense of depth looking into the box, and looking at the scene that is going on inside the box.

As for stuff coming out of the screen at me, I didn't see many effects like that in the free trial. There are some things in the foreground that do appear to "pop" out of the screen. The status bar for your health, and the hud, seems to float out in space a bit. At the bottom of the screen, there are bushes and shrubs that kinda seem to pop out a bit, like they are coming out of the screen. It's quite impressive, but I didn't see anything that shot out of the screen at me, like you kinda see when watching some of the various 3D movies at Imax. Part of this, of course, could be the fact that I was just playing the free trial. If I owned my own 360 with HDMI, I would have probably dropped $15 on the game, even though the game itself (not considering the 3D aspect), is pretty lame. The free trial doesn't let you see very much of the game, so unfortunately, I can't give a better review on the 3D effects. Basically, the most impressive thing to me were these leaves from the trees that seemed to be blowing right out of the TV at me. That was the only 3D effect that really seemed to come out of the TV. The rest of it was just like looking in on a 3D world from behind a window, but it having true depth.

The game itself, was a mediocre final fight type game. To me, the game seemed too hectic, and I didn't really get into it. I'm not opposed to playing a good side scrolling brawler, ala Streets of Rage or something like that, but this game was just mediocre in my brief experience with it. Without the 3D factor, I wouldn't have had any interest whatsoever.


So, what's the conclusion to all of this??? Well, "true" Stereoscopic 3D does indeed work on the Xbox 360. The potential is there. You need a 3D ready display, and you also need a pair of shutterglasses and an emitter. But, it's definitely within reach. Based on what I've seen from this game, I wouldn't run out and buy a 3D ready TV and glasses and all that just yet. If you already happen to own a 3D ready display, then you might want to borrow somebodies shutterglasses and emitter, just to get a taste of what it's like. Other than that, wait for the Avatar game to come out. I think it's the second stereo 3D game coming out, and it's more of a full fledged retail game. Maybe that game will be a better showcase for "true" digital 3D than The Legend of Han Tao. I personally can't wait for a game like Need For Speed Shift to be in steroscopic 3D. I think that could be a real deal killer app for Stereo 3D. Unfortunately, besides the Legend of Han Tao and Avatar, I don't know of any other confirmed stereo 3D games coming down the pipe.