View Full Version : Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising...Next great FPS!


psychdoctor
08-30-09, 06:46 PM
OFP2: Dragon Rising will be the next great FPS from what I have seen, looks more realistic in terms of tactics compared to the run and gun shooters out there. It may give Modern Warfare 2 a run for its money! (I will still get both!):p

Here is link to offical site: http://www.codemasters.com/flashpoint/index.php


Here is some information "Screen shots From IGN"(PS3 only):



Building on the original game's heritage, Operation Flashpoint 2 aims to deliver the most realistic modelling of conflict scenarios in a new contemporary theatre of war. By offering a multitude of military disciplines, gameplay delivers warfare more realistic and intense then ever before, while an extensive multiplayer component creates battles on an incredible scale. The game challenges a new generation of players to survive the chaos and rapidly evolving situations of military combat in a new and contemporary warzone.



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By psychdoctor (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/psychdoctor) at 2009-08-30

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PS3)
Release Region: United States
Release Date: October 6, 2009
Publisher: Codemasters

Release Region: United Kingdom
Release Date: October 09, 2009
Publisher: Codemasters

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PS3)
Release Region: Australia
Release Date: October 2009
Publisher: Codemasters


Operation Flashpoint 2 gives players the freedom to handle military crisis situations on their initiative. Unscripted missions task players with real objectives, such as laying down covering fire, covering a friendly unit’s retreat or conducting short-range recon patrol. Armed with cutting edge military hardware, players will need to balance brute force with intelligent use of tactics. Once players have completed the campaign, a Mission Editor enables gamers to create their own single player and multiplayer missions



Players command and control a wide variety of multi-component, multi-weapon vehicles, including tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, APCs, attack and utility helicopters. Fully loaded weapons and individual ammunition types are simulated with detailed ballistic physics, based upon individually-crafted mechanics. The character damage system authentically depicts the terrible wounds and injury from modern weapons to communicate the reality of combat



Players fight as infantry soldiers in battle, drive tanks in armored assaults, pilot helicopters in air strikes, and infiltrate the enemy in covert special operations utilizing a wide variety of realistic military weapons from knives and rifles to machine guns, grenade launchers and laser designators for air strikes. In whichever role the player chooses, they experience the fierce and brutal reality of warfare and the shock and awe of contemporary firepower unleashed on the arresting scale of modern combat



Immense play areas of more than 135 square miles give players a multitude of tactical decisions on how to best accomplish missions. Densely packed with environment detail and objects, valleys, mountains, coastlines, towns, villages and industrial complexes all combine to deliver a rich and challenging tactical environment. The world is persistent, so that buildings destroyed in one campaign mission will be destroyed in the next



Operation Flashpoint 2 models the environment, objects and people in realistic detail, but its visual styling will embrace documentary techniques. The camera work through cut-scenes is heavily influenced by television war reports that are often shot under extreme circumstances delivering a unique look with incorrect exposure, severe camera shake and loss of focus


Here is in Real IN game footage!

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Comes out October 6...
I am soooo excited like a little kid on Christmas!!!!! :D

mbeiler
08-30-09, 09:00 PM
Looks sick.

The biggest challenge now is trying to convince my friends to pick this up instead of MW2.

Also might be time for that PJ I've been dreaming about

psychdoctor
08-30-09, 09:39 PM
Looks sick.

The biggest challenge now is trying to convince my friends to pick this up instead of MW2.

Also might be time for that PJ I've been dreaming about

Go to the offical website and check out all the videos and gallery, the game will be a tough competitor to MW2 and Bad Company 2. I did not play operation flashpoint 1 however, so I wonder how the controls are set up.

TyrantII
08-31-09, 09:13 AM
Deff more excited for this then MW2. The original was fantastic, and the sim type gameplay was much better IMO. My guess is the community will be much more mature, as run and gunners won't be able to play (Or jump in a room and scream for headshots).

imdjenk
08-31-09, 09:15 AM
Deff more excited for this then MW2. The original was fantastic, and the sim type gameplay was much better IMO. My guess is the community will be much more mature, as run and gunners won't be able to play (Or jump in a room and scream for headshots).


They will surely complain that the controls are broke.

TyrantII
08-31-09, 09:24 AM
They will surely complain that the controls are broke.

HEADSHOTS?!??

:rolleyes:

psychdoctor
08-31-09, 05:39 PM
Deff more excited for this then MW2. The original was fantastic, and the sim type gameplay was much better IMO. My guess is the community will be much more mature, as run and gunners won't be able to play (Or jump in a room and scream for headshots).

Tyrant, how come not many people here (AVS) or elsewhere has not hyped this game? :eek: This game looks sick man, I mean really really cool. I Heard it may even have coop! Have you heard anything?

ppshooky
08-31-09, 05:53 PM
I'll wait until I hear other impressions of the game.

Hopefully, there will be a demo.

TyrantII
08-31-09, 07:58 PM
Tyrant, how come not many people here (AVS) or elsewhere has not hyped this game? :eek: This game looks sick man, I mean really really cool. I Heard it may even have coop! Have you heard anything?

Because it isn't MW.

Truth be told, OFP was great on PC back in the day, but used many commands on the keyboard. The gameplay looks like it's back, but to be successful they're going to have had come up with a good control system to manage everything they throw at you.

Either way, this is going to be great for us who like, slower, tactical, more realistic games. It's getting forgotten in the fall\winter rush of other titles.

Martez
08-31-09, 08:41 PM
Here is in Real IN game footage!


Real PC footage... I'd like to see how it looks on a console.

Wurms
08-31-09, 08:54 PM
One problem is that it gets comapred to SOCOM which tanked on PS3. I sold SOCOM after a week.

Im interested in this mainly because Bad Company 2 doesnt come out until January and this should tide me over. Like someone else posted, trick is getting your buddies to also get it.

If Toys R Us has their annual B2G1 free deal, I will toss this in there most likely. Good way to get your buddies to nab as well :D

TyrantII
08-31-09, 09:20 PM
MP COOP trailer playing on the consoles:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-cooperative-operation-flashpoint/55143

gooki
08-31-09, 09:49 PM
Graphically a little average, but as long as the multiplayer is engaging and full functioning I'm in.

psychdoctor
09-02-09, 06:14 PM
Real PC footage... I'd like to see how it looks on a console.


I think this is console footage but not sure. Graphics look nothing spectacular but the sound of the bullets is sweet.

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WJonathan
09-02-09, 10:38 PM
It's been a loooong time (in video game years) since the first one. A lot of what made the first so great has been incorporated into other franchises by now. I hope the new version can distinguish itself the way the old did vs all the arcadey shooters at the time.

Protopet
09-17-09, 08:53 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/news.html?sid=6228553&tag=topslot;title;4&mode=previews

MP video looks good.

psychdoctor
09-17-09, 07:42 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/operationflashpoint2/news.html?sid=6228553&tag=topslot;title;4&mode=previews

MP video looks good.

MP looks great. I just preordered the game today. :D

Protopet
09-24-09, 08:56 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/?event=today_on_the_spot20090924&hd=1

TyrantII
09-25-09, 09:17 AM
Looking better and better every day.

This and MAG are going to be top notch shooter experiences. I'm just hoping all the tards' flock to MW2, leaving these games with the better communities.

CHAVAN30
09-25-09, 09:58 AM
did anyone else catch the preview in the new issue of game informer? they bagged on this game BAD. saying it is last gen graphics and gameplay, and that basically codemasters screenshots and the like are lies. i have never seen this from game informer.

dfaulting
09-25-09, 12:56 PM
This is the game I'm most anticipating... I like more realistic shooters like Ghost Recon, Americas Army, Rainbow Six. I don't like arcadey FPS like COD. I've played OF1 on the PC years ago and it was extremely difficult but really fun. Multiplayer was a blast too, once you got used to it. I'm hoping they do a great job with this game.

ctbundy
09-25-09, 08:43 PM
I was high on it until I read the Game Informer Preview. It was pretty negative.

psychdoctor
09-27-09, 05:12 AM
The game received good review by POWER UNLIMITED translated from dutch, 9/10! They reviewed both the 360 & PC versions. Here is link.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380099 :D

psychdoctor
10-02-09, 06:00 PM
Another positive review for the 360 version from XBOX mag. 8/10...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=14257

I loved the line: "The vast majority of the time, when everything's properly meshed and you're part of that machine, it's an exhilarating and terrifying experience. :eek: More than anything, it's a game that, even after completion, we want to keep returning to again and again, adding different ingredients to the freeform formula and seeing what kind of explosions we can create.

psychdoctor
10-02-09, 06:02 PM
Another good review but PC version...good details though. 9/10.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=224624

TyrantII
10-02-09, 07:42 PM
Have they said much about the MP?

I hear some stuff saying the only console MP options are 4 vs 4 that squad each player with 3 NCP's. Servers on consoles are also P2P, not dedicated.

That's a great mode, but what about 8v8 or 12v12.

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psychdoctor
10-02-09, 10:13 PM
Have they said much about the MP?

I hear some stuff saying the only console MP options are 4 vs 4 that squad each player with 3 NCP's. Servers on consoles are also P2P, not dedicated.

That's a great mode, but what about 8v8 or 12v12.

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I heard similar 4 X 4 for MP. With a sandbox environment I would have expected more. I do not expect great graphics but the tactical game play will be refreshing. Coop is where it's at for me.

psychdoctor
10-06-09, 03:45 AM
IGN-UK gave the game 8.1 out of 10.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031302p1.html

2 squads of 4 per side for MP. (8 X 8).

TyrantII
10-06-09, 09:28 AM
IGN-UK gave the game 8.1 out of 10.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031302p1.html

2 squads of 4 per side for MP. (8 X 8).

Not sure If can justify $60 for such a nuked MP experience... 2 vs 2 MP in Flashpoint is unacceptable. They're blaming it on the consoles, but wouldn't front the money for dedicated servers like the PC can do.

Other are still saying 4 v 4, so 8 players / 24 NCP's / 32 all together.

number1laing
10-06-09, 09:44 AM
Eurogamer gave it a 7/10. Didn't read the review though. I would be more interested in this game for SP than multi.

psychdoctor
10-06-09, 04:15 PM
Not sure If can justify $60 for such a nuked MP experience... 2 vs 2 MP in Flashpoint is unacceptable. They're blaming it on the consoles, but wouldn't front the money for dedicated servers like the PC can do.

Other are still saying 4 v 4, so 8 players / 24 NCP's / 32 all together.

Coop is where the game would have an appeal. You can have 4 friends, each a leader of a squad for 16 players (each friend will have 3 AI). Or your four friends can play as a squad through the entire campain on hardcore! that would be fun. The menus suck. The limited MP blows but 8v8 is not that bad. Remember, TRUs is having a sale next week. I may get OFP2, UC2, and demon souls.

Dralt
10-06-09, 04:24 PM
The game has not reached the SF Bay area yet, right?

funsocaltiger
10-06-09, 04:47 PM
Hmmm the news about MP is kind of a downer. I wish someone could confirm what the actual number of players was (2v2 4v4 8v8 or what). Even with the TRU B2G1 I'm not sure I will go for this game.

psychdoctor
10-06-09, 05:42 PM
Hmmm the news about MP is kind of a downer. I wish someone could confirm what the actual number of players was (2v2 4v4 8v8 or what). Even with the TRU B2G1 I'm not sure I will go for this game.

It definitely will be 8v8 per latest review (check above post for latest review by IGN-UK). Unless I am misunderstanding something.:eek:

psychdoctor
10-06-09, 05:43 PM
Hmmm the news about MP is kind of a downer. I wish someone could confirm what the actual number of players was (2v2 4v4 8v8 or what). Even with the TRU B2G1 I'm not sure I will go for this game.

Remember, this is a strategic game in the likes of Rainbow 6 Vegas so it really is focusing on teamwork and coop.

psychdoctor
10-06-09, 06:01 PM
Yet another preview of demo: http://www.strategyinformer.com/ps3/operationflashpoint2dragonrising/preview.html


I liked these quotes:

"Op Flash 2 is about as close to experiencing a real war situation without being subjected to the risk of actual death. "

"Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising might be somewhat sadistic in its slavish devotion to realism, and frequent unexpected deaths from the whip-smart AI enemy await those who ignore the deep, strategic approach required to succeed. Casual gamers will be well out of their depth, but if it’s a challenge you’re after, then Op Flash may well scratch that itchy trigger finger of yours."

I guess that makes me masochistic??? :D

funsocaltiger
10-06-09, 06:12 PM
Remember, this is a strategic game in the likes of Rainbow 6 Vegas so it really is focusing on teamwork and coop.

I think partially I'm worried because this game could go either way. I MUCH prefer tactical shooters but I fear that with all the hype it is somehow "broken" =P FORTUNATELY, this game comes out a full week before Im going to TRU for B2G1 so hopefully there will be reviews either confirming it is epic or just meh. ;)

psychdoctor
10-08-09, 04:10 PM
Okay. I have played the game for a while now so I have initial impressions...

Pros:
game play is intense even on normal. There are 3 levels (normal, experienced, hardcore)




Audio is fantastic. Guns have a loud authentic sound, similar to Rainbow Six. Sound is separated in all 7 speakers and the explosions rumble my room. Infact, the grenades and explosion throughout game is nerve breaking if you have a loud system.

Coop is fun and rewarding

Realism of movements, guns, bullet projectory, bullet sounds and tracers are fantastic

Cons:

Graphics are just insipid. Flat and no dimensions. Colors are bland. Just skimpy compared to games like uncharted 2 but not bad enough to not enjoy the game and way better compared to OFP1. Computer version looks better to these eyes.

MP is limited to 8 players but I have not played yet

Missions are not easy and there is a lot of running

Conclusion or Bottom Line
I really am warming up to the intensity of the game. Realism is unmatched for FPS. The enemy AI is quite good and will flank you from all sides, but your team AI sometimes runs out into the open field and are not that sharp. If the graphics were just above average, and if they had 32 v 32 in MP, this game would be awesome. I recommend just renting it and not paying the full price. I will play this even with UC2 comes out because in COOP the game is really intense and humbling. :D

ppshooky
10-08-09, 06:59 PM
Okay. I have played the game for a while now so I have initial impressions...

Pros:
game play is intense even on normal. There are 3 levels (normal, experienced, hardcore)




Audio is fantastic. Guns have a loud authentic sound, similar to Rainbow Six. Sound is separated in all 7 speakers and the explosions rumble my room. Infact, the grenades and explosion throughout game is nerve breaking if you have a loud system.

Coop is fun and rewarding

Realism of movements, guns, bullet projectory, bullet sounds and tracers are fantastic

Cons:

Graphics are just insipid. Flat and no dimensions. Colors are bland. Just skimpy compared to games like uncharted 2 but not bad enough to not enjoy the game and way better compared to OFP1. Computer version looks better to these eyes.

MP is limited to 8 players but I have not played yet

Missions are not easy and there is a lot of running

Conclusion or Bottom Line
I really am warming up to the intensity of the game. Realism is unmatched for FPS. The enemy AI is quite good and will flank you from all sides, but your team AI sometimes runs out into the open field and are not that sharp. If the graphics were just above average, and if they had 32 v 32 in MP, this game would be awesome. I recommend just renting it and not paying the full price. I will play this even with UC2 comes out because in COOP the game is really intense and humbling. :D

Is it point and shoot, or do you need to lead your targets depending on how far away they are?

psychdoctor
10-08-09, 09:16 PM
Is it point and shoot, or do you need to lead your targets depending on how far away they are?

You need to account for distance especially with larger weapons and grenades. But I have been able to shoot from 200-300 meters with regular accuracy but needed to lead just a bit when they moved side to side. The enemy AI is pretty smart and will usually move.

psychdoctor
10-10-09, 02:20 PM
Okay, some more impressions of OFP2 after playing in MP and several missions.

Graphics: Simply unacceptable for this generation of consoles. The PC version looks good in better details, foliage is thick and colors more vibrant per reports. But for PS3 = epic failure. However, game play and movements are great and night missions are good enough graphics.

NO Party System in MP: There is no lobby or party system. SO even if you are lucky to find a friend with this game, you cannot invite friends in ranked games. You have to BROWSE for the name of the game and join their game before anyone else joins which is really a joke. Even in unranked games, the game is clunky in inviting someone and you may get error readings.

Game product is Beta quality: the game is an unfinished product that many on other forums and message boards are saying is beta quality. There are bugs and glitches being reported albeit, I have not experienced as of yet (like people falling through the floor of the helicoptor and dying; the medic gets stuck to a rock after healing someone).

MP Comments: I've only played "inflitration" on MP (the other game is "annihilation.") I only played on hardcore so it was hard as sheat. On hardcore there is no HUD, no indication of how much ammo you have left, no compass, nothing. IT is truly confusing when fire fighting begins and how we won those matches I will never know. I was shot by my own members of the team because of all the confusing. Bombs dropping everywhere, smoke everywhere, I was being shot from every direction. There is no way to tell enemy from friendlies during battle if you get separated from team during battle. It was 8v8 but each team leader has 3 additional AI officers. Some of the Badages included, medic, sniper, rifleman, team leader, grenadier, engineer. It was hard to join friends side of team. The only way was to push square when the other team members pushed their square to switch. Really archaic and unacceptable. :mad: They need a lobby system.

COOP is best: COOP was the most rewarding experience of the game. If you are a fan of COOP then this game may be worth a purchase at less than MSRP.

Realism: I would not buy this game but wait for a used copy or rent it just to experience the realism of war. I in no way want to say the game is real and for the Vets out there, nothing in a game comes close to real war. But as far as game play goes, the movements, the distance most battles are fought, the game is really intense. Do no be surprised to be headshot by bullets bouncing off of objects. The audio is a 10/10. :eek: The bullets go from speaker to speaker. If the developers would have waited just 6 months and cleaned up the graphics and added a lobby system for MP, this game could have been good to great. But they rushed the final product to beat MW2. By the way, this game is not run and gun like MW2. LOL If you try that in this game you will be DEAD really quick, I don't care how skilled you think you are at FPS.

Final Rating: I am not feeling up to my usual OCD self so I will not rate the entire game per modules like audio, graphics, replay value. My overall rating and impression: 7/10. Thus far, the game is for hardcore fans of OFP1 who missed playing the game since 2001 but the unpolished sequel is not enough for people to spend hard earned monies when so many other titles are soon to be in the mix like UC2, MW2, Demon souls, MAG. But if you all decide to buy a used version or rent the game, send me a friend invite and we can have a blast in COOP.:D

TyrantII
10-10-09, 08:16 PM
thanks psychdoctor, think I'll put this on hold in my Goozex Queue and wait till it drops in value a bit. Not too found of developers who released unfinished stuff at finished stuff price points.

lazura
10-15-09, 12:48 PM
I echo psychdoctor's review. Blockbuster now has this game for rent, so I'm trying it out. I really enjoy games like Rainbow Six and GRAW and Operation Flashpoint is MUCH tougher. It can be exciting and frustrating at the same time. I dislike games that have far too few checkpoints, and this game has some missions that force you to replay 45 minutes of gameplay after one head shot killed you! Also, it can be very difficult to determine why a mission failed even though didn't get killed. With RB6 and GRAW2, I didn't have to resort to finding 'guides and hints' to help get through tough missions until late in the game. With this game, I'm only in the first 1/3 of the game and already I have to look for guides online since I can't get past a mission ending early. But, on the good side this game can get very intense and it is really satisfying when you finally do end a mission successfully. Also, it can be a sniper's paradise since most of your kills will come from 100 yards and out. I've only played on-line briefly and it can be fun if you manage to get assigned the right role like rifleman. Getting stuck with Medic is no fun. I agree if the developer issues a patch to fix some of these shortcomings it could end up moving the rating up a notch or two.

totalownership
10-31-09, 10:23 PM
No more love for this game? I picked this up for the PS3 instead of the 360 and from the length of this thread versus the length of the 360 thread I might have messed up.

totalownership
11-07-09, 03:35 AM
Well since there is no love for this game I might as well give it some. After finishing Uncharted 2 I decided to give this game some burn. LOVE the intro. I mean just love it. I could watch that once a day and never get tired of it. Don't know why , just how it is.

The game is hard but not hard. Once you lose some patience and decide to Rambo just a little your dead. Every time I played it like 20 years ago (when I was in the Army ;) lol ) I do fine, the minute I lose concentration and decide to Gears of War it it's fade to black time.

I can't believe they actually have weapon jams in this game too. That bugged me out. I was laying it down with some sniper fire and all of a sudden the rifle wouldn't shoot. I'm like WTF and then I see it's jammed. Anyone know how to perform SPORTS on weapons in this game?

eddy_winds
12-05-09, 10:24 AM
think I'll put this on hold in my Goozex Queue and wait till it drops in value a bit. Not too found of developers who released unfinished stuff at finished stuff price points.


Its 850 points atm

I might have messed up.

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