http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/08/31/god-of-war-collection-blu-ray-disc-compilation-available-this-holiday-season/

first two god of wars on bluray in 720p.

GOW 1 + 2
720p
60fps/AA
Trophies
$39.99

Rumor that GOW 3 demo will be included.

Wow, amazing news! Had no idea something like this was coming...

Any more info (@wrk)?

Is this being rendered in 720P, or just scaled to 720P from its original resolution? If it's Nativity rendered, this is very sweet indeed!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/08/31/god-of-war-collection-blu-ray-disc-compilation-available-this-holiday-season/

first two god of wars on bluray in 720p.

GOW 1 + 2
720p
60fps/AA
Trophies
$39.99

Rumor that GOW 3 demo will be included.

Finally a must have game for the PS3...even though I did finish them both on the PS2 when I had them!

Nice I never got to play these so I'll have to pick that up for sure before 3 comes out. my wife loves these games so I'm sure she will approve.

Can someone please copy & paste the blog post for those of us at work?

The fans spoke and we listened.


For those that recall the God of War survey conducted earlier this year,
an overwhelming amount of the community suggested the PlayStation 2
experiences of Kratos be brought forth to the PlayStation 3.

Thanks to your feedback, we are excited to announce the God of War Collection
for this Holiday Season. Now fans and newcomers to the series can experience
the epic journey of God of War and God of War II in 720p HD form. Both titles
have been remastered with anti-aliased graphics, running at 60 frames per second
for a smooth gameplay experience, only on the PS3 system. Additionally, the Blu-ray
Disc compilation will bring the PlayStation Network (PSN) trophy support to the franchise
for the very first time.

This is your chance to experience God of War is its true form before the chaos
of God of War III hits store shelves come March 2010.

Here’s the full press release:


SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA ANNOUNCES


GOD OF WAR® COLLECTION, A NEW COMPILATION OFFERING FOR PLAYSTATION®3

Exclusive God of War® and God of War® II Blu-ray Disc Compilation
Available This Holiday Season

FOSTER CITY, Calif., September 1, 2009 – Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) announced
today a new and exclusive PlayStation®3 (PS3™) offering for the critically acclaimed God of War®
franchise, God of War® Collection. Scheduled for release this holiday season, God of War Collection
will feature reworked versions of both God of War® and God of War® II on a single Blu-ray Disc™
at full 1280 x 720 resolution. Both critically acclaimed games, which were originally developed for the
PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system, have been remastered with anti-aliased graphics
running at 60 frames per second for a smooth gameplay experience on the PS3 system. Additionally
, the Blu-ray Disc compilation will bring PlayStation®Network (PSN) trophy support to the franchise
for the first time (included for both games). God of War Collection offers substantial value to PS3
consumers, the compilation of both best-selling games costing just $39.99 MSRP.
Developed by Sony Computer Entertainment, Santa Monica Studio, the God of War series brings epic
mythological battles to life with stunning graphics and an elaborate plot that puts Kratos, the
triology’s main character, at the center of carnage and destruction as he seeks revenge against
the Gods who have betrayed him. God of War® III is scheduled for release exclusively on the PS3
in March 2010.

“We are excited today to announce God of War Collection,” said Scott Rohde, vice president,
Worldwide Studios America. “Our fans spoke and we listened; thanks to our partnership with
Bluepoint Games, fans and newcomers to the series can experience the epic God of War and
God of War II saga in stunning 720p on PS3. This Blu-ray Disc compilation brings Kratos to PS3
even earlier than expected.”

SCEA – God of War®Collection Announced for PS3

God of War Storyline

Set in the dark world of ancient Greek mythology, players take on the role of Kratos,
a Spartan warrior. Plagued by the nightmares of his past, the ash covered warrior
would do anything to be free of his debt to the Gods and the memories that haunt him.
For ten years he has labored for Olympus, now on the verge of losing all hope, the Gods
have given him one last task. Destroy Ares, the God of War. Armed with the deadly
chained Blades of Chaos, Kratos will have to overcome armies of mythological monsters,
legions of undead soldiers, and amazingly dangerous and brutal landscapes.

God of War II Storyline

God of War saw Kratos, a mortal warrior, set upon an epic quest to dethrone a God. But his
journey did not end there. In God of War II, Kratos sits atop his Olympus throne, as the new
God of War – far more ruthless than Ares ever was. To end his continued torment, Kratos
must journey to the far reaches of the earth and defeat untold horrors and alter that which
no mortal, or god has ever changed… his fate. God of War II sets an epic stage for a
devastating mythological war to end all wars.

God of War Collection – Blu-ray Disc Compilation Available This Holiday Season!

Posted by Anthony Caiazzo // Product Marketing Manager, SCEA

The fans spoke and we listened.

For those that recall the God of War survey conducted earlier this year, an overwhelming amount of the community suggested the PlayStation 2 experiences of Kratos be brought forth to the PlayStation 3.

GodofWarCollection

Thanks to your feedback, we are excited to announce the God of War Collection for this Holiday Season. Now fans and newcomers to the series can experience the epic journey of God of War and God of War II in 720p HD form. Both titles have been remastered with anti-aliased graphics, running at 60 frames per second for a smooth gameplay experience, only on the PS3 system. Additionally, the Blu-ray Disc compilation will bring the PlayStation Network (PSN) trophy support to the franchise for the very first time.

This is your chance to experience God of War is its true form before the chaos of God of War III hits store shelves come March 2010.

Here’s the full press release:

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA ANNOUNCES
GOD OF WAR® COLLECTION, A NEW COMPILATION OFFERING FOR PLAYSTATION®3
Exclusive God of War® and God of War® II Blu-ray Disc Compilation
Available This Holiday Season

FOSTER CITY, Calif., September 1, 2009 – Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) announced today a new and exclusive PlayStation®3 (PS3™) offering for the critically acclaimed God of War® franchise, God of War® Collection. Scheduled for release this holiday season, God of War Collection will feature reworked versions of both God of War® and God of War® II on a single Blu-ray Disc™ at full 1280 x 720 resolution. Both critically acclaimed games, which were originally developed for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system, have been remastered with anti-aliased graphics running at 60 frames per second for a smooth gameplay experience on the PS3 system. Additionally, the Blu-ray Disc compilation will bring PlayStation®Network (PSN) trophy support to the franchise for the first time (included for both games). God of War Collection offers substantial value to PS3 consumers, the compilation of both best-selling games costing just $39.99 MSRP.

Developed by Sony Computer Entertainment, Santa Monica Studio, the God of War series brings epic mythological battles to life with stunning graphics and an elaborate plot that puts Kratos, the triology’s main character, at the center of carnage and destruction as he seeks revenge against the Gods who have betrayed him. God of War® III is scheduled for release exclusively on the PS3 in March 2010.

“We are excited today to announce God of War Collection,” said Scott Rohde, vice president, Worldwide Studios America. “Our fans spoke and we listened; thanks to our partnership with Bluepoint Games, fans and newcomers to the series can experience the epic God of War and God of War II saga in stunning 720p on PS3. This Blu-ray Disc compilation brings Kratos to PS3 even earlier than expected.”

SCEA – God of War®Collection Announced for PS3

God of War Storyline
Set in the dark world of ancient Greek mythology, players take on the role of Kratos, a Spartan warrior. Plagued by the nightmares of his past, the ash covered warrior would do anything to be free of his debt to the Gods and the memories that haunt him. For ten years he has labored for Olympus, now on the verge of losing all hope, the Gods have given him one last task. Destroy Ares, the God of War. Armed with the deadly chained Blades of Chaos, Kratos will have to overcome armies of mythological monsters, legions of undead soldiers, and amazingly dangerous and brutal landscapes.

God of War II Storyline
God of War saw Kratos, a mortal warrior, set upon an epic quest to dethrone a God. But his journey did not end there. In God of War II, Kratos sits atop his Olympus throne, as the new God of War – far more ruthless than Ares ever was. To end his continued torment, Kratos must journey to the far reaches of the earth and defeat untold horrors and alter that which no mortal, or god has ever changed… his fate. God of War II sets an epic stage for a devastating mythological war to end all wars.

Acclaim for the God of War Franchise
God of War releases have set the bar for the action-adventure genre and been acknowledged by some of the videogame industry’s key publications, which include PlayStation: The Official Magazine (Editor’s Choice Award), Game Informer (Action/Adventure Game of the Year and Handheld Game of the Month Award), GamePro (Editor’s Choice Award), Electronic Gaming Monthly (Best PS2 Game), IGN.com (Editor’s Choice Award and Game of the Year Award), and four nominations in the Annual Interactive Achievement Awards, including Overall Game of the Year and Console Game of the Year. The franchise has also been awarded with several honors including several E3 Best of Game Awards (given by several online publications), numerous Game of the Year and Best Action Game Awards (given at Spike TV’s Video Game Awards, Golden Joystick Awards, PSX Extreme Awards and the 3rd Annual G-Phoria Awards, and by PAX, GameZone, GameDaily, GameSpot), to name just a few.

Awesome news!!!!

Awesome news!!!!

PS3 gets PS2 Game play back??

Any more info (@wrk)?

Is this being rendered in 720P, or just scaled to 720P from its original resolution? If it's Nativity rendered, this is very sweet indeed!

This looks like its a port, which means it makes no sense not to bump it up to 720p native.

At which case this is a must own game. I never beat GoW2 so I'll get this for sure.

Great move on Sony's part.

Thanks Dave and Chris!!

Any more info (@wrk)?

Is this being rendered in 720P, or just scaled to 720P from its original resolution? If it's Nativity rendered, this is very sweet indeed!

Look slike it was done by some company called Bluepoint Games. Looking on their site, they don't seem to have a ton of experience, so I would adopt a cautious wait-and-see approach. Rewriting the code of 2 games to comply with PS3's hardware seems like a daunting task. Most games (particularly multi-console ports) are originally programmed in HD and then scaled back to whatever the console can handle, so true 720p wouldn't be hard to imagine. The thing is, you scale something up or down, but that alone doesn't add graphical detail or all the modern visual tricks we expect on current-gen systems. Anyway, this is intriguing, and if they pull it off it's pretty exciting to think of other PS2 games re-released and upscaled for PS3.

PS3 gets PS2 Game play back??

PS3 owners without backwards-compatability will get a chance to play the best single-player games ever. Those of us who have already beaten the games will get updated graphics and trophies. I'll definately pick this up even though I still have my PS2 copies.

^^^ Yup. This is perhaps one of the greatest double-dips in home entertainment history. :D

i'm all over this double dip. now if they will just do this for ico and shadow of the collosus.

^^^ Yup. This is perhaps one of the greatest double-dips in home entertainment history. :D

Agreed.

GoW + Trophies = Yes please.

As for Ico and SotC...I'd probably pass out if that happened too.

Rewriting the code of 2 games to comply with PS3's hardware seems like a daunting task.

It's a matter of rewriting the renderer to work on PS3. Considering you're dealing with PS2 assets, getting it to run at 720p and 60fps really isn't daunting. This is most similar to those early 360 games (like GUN) that were PS2/Xbox ports or the Pikmin 2 or Metroid Prime Wii games.

Plus, this company has already written a game for PS3.

Effing awesome!!! Now I have to brush up on my skills to get the trophies as I'm sure one of them is to beat the game on "Titan" mode. That was a real b*tch back in the day.

and weren't the originals made in 720p or something close and then scaled down for the ps2. I think that's how god of war 2 had that code you could play in 720p (or something really close). I have a link at home explaining that situation but can't get to it right now.

Ugh...Titan...yeah.

We needs a release date...I'll need to clear out a week to play through these now.

Plus, this company has already written a game for PS3.

a game :eek:

Effing awesome!!! Now I have to brush up on my skills to get the trophies as I'm sure one of them is to beat the game on "Titan" mode. That was a real b*tch back in the day.
Haha, I almost wish it would read my PS2 game save and give me credit for finishing it on those crazy difficulties, but it'll be fun to do it again.

They are offering these two remastered classics for the average price of $20 each... epic.

sadly, when it says holiday season that could mean anywhere from nov of this year until the end of january next year.

Did anybody catch a price on this? I didn't see one...

AMAZING NEW!!! I still have my GoW 2 unopened and never got to play it. Guess I'll replay the first one and then this one with this collection :D

Can't wait :)

Did anybody catch a price on this? I didn't see one...

Think I saw 39,99$

I don't want to be greedy, but I'd have paid even more for the PSP Chains of Olympus release to be HDified as well.

My launch PS3 can play those games already, but the allure of trophies makes me go: Why not?

I don't want to be greedy, but I'd have paid even more for the PSP Chains of Olympus release to be HDified as well.

I was thinking the same thing. That would make this already "awesome" announcement turn into an "epic" announcement!

40 bucks?! That's a no-brainer. I've only played thru GOW2 so it will be nice to play the first one...with HD graphics too! Awesome

The inevitable question now becomes:

if GoW 1 & 2 get re-released in 720p/60fps/AA with trophies, what PS2 games are next? :D

Finally a must have game for the PS3...even though I did finish them both on the PS2 when I had them!

finally? :confused: :rolleyes:

Any indication whether they're going to use MSAA, or the dreaded blur-o-vision Quincunx? I don't really consider the later much of an "improvement".

and weren't the originals made in 720p or something close and then scaled down for the ps2. I think that's how god of war 2 had that code you could play in 720p (or something really close). I have a link at home explaining that situation but can't get to it right now.

I thought GOW2 was 480p not 720p, but could be wrong. It did definately have an option to go progressive though

Why no screen shots. I want to see if it's worth buying again :mad:

Yeah, there was no 720P mode for those games. A rumor about that circulated for GoW2, but was quashed by the developer.

Update!!!

Destructoid is reporting (http://www.destructoid.com/incredible-god-of-war-collection-announced-for-ps3-146900.phtml)that the word out of a GameStop Manager's Conference in Las Vegas is a November release date for the collection.

a game :eek:

And how many have you written? Infinitely less I would presume?

finally? :confused: :rolleyes:

You bet. I'm not a fan of the sandbox type nor of first person shooters on the console and that pretty much eliminates 95% of whats offered on the PS3. I guess I should have said "this year" because I havent made a single PS3 purchase yet....though I ended up adding a DSi & 5 games. This is a reason for ME to dust off my PS3 and play the type of game that I love and may not summarize YOUR feelings on the PS3 and it's games. ;)

a game :eek:

As in, they have experience with the platform? Jeez.

fcorona76, pair this game up with NG Sigma 2 and you'll have plenty of gaming ahead of you.

As in, they have experience with the platform? Jeez.

fcorona76, pair this game up with NG Sigma 2 and you'll have plenty of gaming ahead of you.

I KNOW! NG2 almost had me go out and buy a 360....but I'm glad I waited. But back on topic, I'm stoked for a GoW 1 & 2 compilation!

Well, until we get confirmation they re-wrote then rendering engine are are natively doing it at 720P, I'll keep my fingers crossed. We had this discussion before because of loose wording when we were speculating about BC around launch:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9893391#post9893391

The inevitable question now becomes:

if GoW 1 & 2 get re-released in 720p/60fps/AA with trophies, what PS2 games are next? :D

How about MGS2 and 3 to go with the upcoming support of trophies for MGS4! :) Now that's some wishful thinking...

I thought GOW2 was 480p not 720p, but could be wrong. It did definately have an option to go progressive though

GOW2 had progressive scan at 480p. Some of the best graphics on a PS2 game IMO.

This is some of the best news EVER!!!

I myself have never played any of the PS2 versions, I liked the PSP title. So I am ready for this.

GOW 1 & 2? 720p? that's a no brainer!
Must own!

The big question is, why not 1080p? Unless they upgraded to bigger texures and a lot of other improvements, they should render a PS2 game at 1080p.

Even at 480p this game looks great, so I really don't care one way or the other!

I'll definitely douple dip for HD rez and trophies.

I guess a tweak to some of GOW 2's moves for the Blades would be wishful thinking.


Sex Minigames in HD FTW!!!

This is great, great, great! So excited about this. Good times to be had, and introduce peeps who missed the first games to an epic story.

I hope MGS, MGS2 & MGS3 gets the same HD treatment one day!

Yeah...that would be outstanding as well. For some reason, though, I don't think we'll see that. As much as we (PS3 owners) like to think that MGS has been PlayStation loyal...that's not entirely the truth. GOW is different in that it has only ever been on a PlayStation system and is published by Sony. For this reason, I don't think we get the same treatment on MGS, sadly.

It's not just Sony published, its a Sony game. They own the IP.

I really could see them doing this with ICO/SOTC next year before The Last Guardian. Especially if this sells. GOW and ICO/SOTC are the top Sony games on PS2.

Right you are. I forget these things sometimes. My main point was that Sony is far more heavily involved with GOW and it's interest in tailoring the PlayStation brand experience is better served with a GOW remake than a MGS remake (which has some form of game released on gamecube, iphone, PlayStation, and soon to be Xbox 360).

I thought GOW2 was 480p not 720p, but could be wrong. It did definately have an option to go progressive though


i am talking about on developer hardware. they were higher res than when they were released. but there is in fact a code to make god of war 2 run in higher than 480p. it is not quite 720p but it is more than 480p. google it. like i said i have a link at home but i am not there.

edit: found it but can't link to it since i am at work. it is 576p (strange i know).

Isn't call of duty 4 576p?

yeah, cod4 is something like that. it is not 720p.

Yeah, there was no 720P mode for those games. A rumor about that circulated for GoW2, but was quashed by the developer.

Update!!!

Destructoid is reporting (http://www.destructoid.com/incredible-god-of-war-collection-announced-for-ps3-146900.phtml)that the word out of a GameStop Manager's Conference in Las Vegas is a November release date for the collection.

Man, it will be a crowded November...an AWESOME NOVEMBER!

Question for me is will they make it wide screen? I hate having those black boxes on the sides of the screen....

I think Ico and expecially Shadow of the Colossus would be amazing in HD and wide screen. Just amazing. but...

The old style of the MGS games is part of their charm. I can't imagine high definition improving any of them. That said, I'd buy all three if they were rereleased.

Question for me is will they make it wide screen? I hate having those black boxes on the sides of the screen....

I think Ico and expecially Shadow of the Colossus would be amazing in HD and wide screen. Just amazing. but...

The old style of the MGS games is part of their charm. I can't imagine high definition improving any of them. That said, I'd buy all three if they were rereleased.

Everything from 720p and up is HD and Widescreen.

I was thinking the same thing. That would make this already "awesome" announcement turn into an "epic" announcement!

GOW 1&2 is great but I'm with ya. I am still playing, (havent beaten) Chains of olympius yet. Basically because I just cant sacrifice console time for psp time...my damm job just gets in the way of me playing games and having fun:)

How about MGS2 and 3 to go with the upcoming support of trophies for MGS4! :) Now that's some wishful thinking...

+1 I'd be totally on-board with that!

It's not just Sony published, its a Sony game. They own the IP.

I really could see them doing this with ICO/SOTC next year before The Last Guardian. Especially if this sells. GOW and ICO/SOTC are the top Sony games on PS2.As great as this would be, the Team Ico games didn't sell that well, especially compared to the GoW games. I guess it depends on how much it costs Sony to put a PS2 HD compilation like this together. Other publishers of big PS2 hits would jump all over this if it's cheap to make and profitable. Not as cheap as a simple port on PSN (assuming they ever figured out how to emulate the PS2 on the PS3), but generates a hell of a lot more hype and interest in old PS2 titles.

I've heard good things but never played either game. Looks like a definite buy from me.

Never have GoW 1 and 2 on PS2 so I guess I will give it a try this time :)

I hope MGS, MGS2 & MGS3 gets the same HD treatment one day!

Forget about MGS2! ;) Make MGS and MGS3 a priority! I will triple-dip MGS if Konami remade MGS into MGS4 graphics. Shouldn't be that hard since they have already recreated part of the Shadow Moses Island for MGS4, the story line is written, voice acting is done, and the PS3 game engine already exists. I wouldn't mind if they remade the old MG games from the 8bits days into 720p/1080p PS3 graphics, too.

Everything from 720p and up is HD and Widescreen.

Not true (kinda). Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox had a 720p mode but with pillar boxes on the side. The system output a 1280x720p image but the game was being rendered in a 4x3 frame within the image.

Spiffy. I played through both of them but didn't buy them, so I think I'll purchase this. Personally I would pay $40 for a remastered God of War 1 (thought 2 sucked).

Also, I'd cream my pants if they did this for ICO and SotC right before Last Guardian launched.

The inevitable question now becomes:

if GoW 1 & 2 get re-released in 720p/60fps/AA with trophies, what PS2 games are next? :D

Metal Gear Solid 3 (no mas "dos" por favor), Silent Hill 2, Ico, any/all Ratchet & Clanks.

I think they need to leep it to a minimum because frankly I played all those games last gen and I don't really care to revisit them just because they're 720p or 1080p now. The whole obsession with redoing FF7 in HD just seems silly to me. Buy the original PSX version and play it on any PS3. What's the big deal? Spend the resources on something better. Just my .02 though.

Never have GoW 1 and 2 on PS2 so I guess I will give it a try this time :)



Forget about MGS2! ;) Make MGS and MGS3 a priority! I will triple-dip MGS if Konami remade MGS into MGS4 graphics. Shouldn't be that hard since they have already recreated part of the Shadow Moses Island for MGS4, the story line is written, voice acting is done, and the PS3 game engine already exists. I wouldn't mind if they remade the old MG games from the 8bits days into 720p/1080p PS3 graphics, too.

Kojima should straight up remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2!

Also, I'd cream my pants if they did this for ICO and SotC right before Last Guardian launched.

I rented both those games back in college but never finished either of them. I'd love to check them both out again before the Last Guardian (really interested in that game). Both those games for $40 would probably sell pretty good...aren't they pretty expensive to find these days?

I'll definately pick this up even though I still have my PS2 copies.

+1

60fps and 720p sold me. both games are awesome. and you cannot beat that price. the god of war 3 demo will just be a bonus. (yeah, like they won't do it as a huge selling point.)

I rented both those games back in college but never finished either of them. I'd love to check them both out again before the Last Guardian (really interested in that game). Both those games for $40 would probably sell pretty good...aren't they pretty expensive to find these days?

Ico, yes:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YUWA/

SotC, no...still Greatest Hits:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009I6S0O/

Very nice indeed, I never played 1 and 2 but played the PSP one. I will pick this package up for sure and GoW3 when it comes out as well.

I'm still willing to trade my copy of ICO (with case and manual) for a PS3 game or something if anyone is interested.

Never have GoW 1 and 2 on PS2 so I guess I will give it a try this time :)



Forget about MGS2! ;) Make MGS and MGS3 a priority! I will triple-dip MGS if Konami remade MGS into MGS4 graphics. Shouldn't be that hard since they have already recreated part of the Shadow Moses Island for MGS4, the story line is written, voice acting is done, and the PS3 game engine already exists. I wouldn't mind if they remade the old MG games from the 8bits days into 720p/1080p PS3 graphics, too.

MGS2 is a must own too! All of them are priority!

Bought!

They already remade MGS once, well, they hired someone to do it.

MGS2 is my favorite of the series. MGS3 is very close behind but I'd love to see a remade MGS2.

I doubt any of this is going to happen, though.

They already remade MGS once, well, they hired someone to do it.

MGS2 is my favorite of the series. MGS3 is very close behind but I'd love to see a remade MGS2.

I doubt any of this is going to happen, though.

Why MGS2? I thought it was the weakest of the series. The wierd pschological, philosophical overturns didn't make much sense. I was glad they got back to basics with a strong storyline in MGS3. I had a feeling there was something I was missing from the game, maybe if I got a chance to play it again in HD I would "get it".

Why MGS2? I thought it was the weakest of the series. The wierd pschological, philosophical overturns didn't make much sense. I was glad they got back to basics with a strong storyline in MGS3. I had a feeling there was something I was missing from the game, maybe if I got a chance to play it again in HD I would "get it".

The storyline in MGS2 was amazing and I loved it. The mechanics were excellent, the controls were great in the corridors (didn't work so much in MGS3's wide open jungle). I liked MGS3 for different reasons, but overall I'd put MGS2 ahead.

I still put MGS3 ahead of MGS2, but 2 is amazing. Storyline too.

This thread is about god of war 1 and 2, take your boring MGS remakes to another thread!

This thread is about god of war 1 and 2, take your boring MGS remakes to another thread!

I like your thread. I think I'll stay :p

I like your thread. I think I'll stay :p

Where's my popcorn?

I like your thread. I think I'll stay :p

MGS = snoozefest

GOW = awesomesauce

MGS = snoozefest

GOW = awesomesauce

Its ok, a lot of people find MGS hard to understand. All that storyline, character develop, and words and stuff get in the way when all you want to do is bash bad guys.

How will it work for widescreen?

Ico, yes:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YUWA/

SotC, no...still Greatest Hits:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009I6S0O/

:eek::eek::eek: I sold Ico on ebay a few months ago for $30!!! That's about all it was going for!

Its ok, a lot of people find MGS hard to understand. All that storyline, character develop, and words and stuff get in the way when all you want to do is bash bad guys.

blood & explosions and action = awesome


wierd japanese dubbed in english storytelling = :eek::confused:


(but seriously i loved MGS4, and I was a player of the original metal gear for NES, i just never got into 1-3)

Well, I'm glad to see I can stop looking in this thread since it stopped being about the thread subject about a page ago...

GOW supported widescreen on PS2, didn't it? I suspect it chopped off the top and bottom of the screen, but that's the way I played 'em. (Well I never got around to finishing GOWII as I got really busy and then never managed to get back to it).

I will definitely be picking this up. Hope it comes out soon enough that I have time to finish both before GOWIII comes out (yes I take a lot of time to finish games).

Most widescreen games on PS2 did that. I know FFXII did something like it but its still how I played it. Actually how I want to get back into it, I love that game.

wierd japanese dubbed in english storytelling = :eek::confused:



That comment only covers MGS2, which was bizzare as hell, and maybe MGS1 a bit. MGS3 was a cut and dry story that made complete sense dubbed into English. MGS4 was much more strange than MGS3.

MGS2 wasn't really that strange or hard to follow. The endgame bits wrapped it all up. That final codec communication was a bit weird but made sense in context.

I will say that MGS2 was not "cut and dry" but that wasn't because of the translation. It's how the story was presented, how it was meant to be if you will.

MGS2 wasn't really that strange or hard to follow. The endgame bits wrapped it all up. That final codec communication was a bit weird but made sense in context.

I will say that MGS2 was not "cut and dry" but that wasn't because of the translation. It's how the story was presented, how it was meant to be if you will.

I got the feeling they were trying to imply that he either a. Wasn't real. or b. What he was experiencing wasn't really happening. or maybe his past wasn't real. I'd have to go through and play again, I got so frustrated trying to beat the boss (Took me all freaking night) that I forgot half of what happened leading up to him.

I got the feeling they were trying to imply that he either a. Wasn't real. or b. What he was experiencing wasn't really happening. or maybe his past wasn't real. I'd have to go through and play again, I got so frustrated trying to beat the boss (Took me all freaking night) that I forgot half of what happened leading up to him.

Nope.

It was all about GW and control. He was a rather elaborate pawn.

IMO MGS2 had the most coherent storyline of the bunch. It kept things simple and tidy. And the gameplay mechanics worked in the confined space (corridors and rooms). MGS3 was a total mess story-wise and gameplay-wise. It was a real chore to play through, and the mechanics were still seriously broken (crawling, directions, AI, camera, saves, etc, etc).

That's why MGS4 was so great. Kept the story epic--but still understated--and fixed most of the broken mechanics.

Oh, and GoW1 & 2 HD remakes is amazing news. ;)

IMO MGS2 had the most coherent storyline of the bunch. It kept things simple and tidy. And the gameplay mechanics worked in the confined space (corridors and rooms). MGS3 was a total mess story-wise and gameplay-wise. It was a real chore to play through, and the mechanics were still seriously broken (crawling, directions, AI, camera, saves, etc, etc).

That's why MGS4 was so great. Kept the story epic--but still understated--and fixed most of the broken mechanics.

Oh, and GoW1 & 2 HD remakes is amazing news. ;)

How was MGS3 a mess storywise? Was there a specific part of it you thought didn't make sense?

GoW already supported anamorphic widescreen. The "HD" code for 2 only bumped it from 512x448 to 640x448.

MGS3 was a total mess story-wise

Go on.

MGS3 was a total mess story-wise and gameplay-wise.

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Sorry, for the bomb-drop and ditch. Internet's just coming to life here in my new digs.

Not sure where to start. Hmmm.

Let me put it this way: I'm a fan of the MGS series. People who don't like the series usually don't like it because they think that the stories are ludicrous and the controls are totally idiosyncratic. MGS3 proves those people right. MGS1 was very well designed, great combination of gameplay and story. MGS2 took an odd turn story-wise, but pared down the scope of the plot and refined the mechanics.

MGS3 blew open the plot by doing an "origin" story of Big Boss and made it this stupid Oedipal drama between Big Boss and The Boss. Worse, this is where the convolutions and conspiracies upon conspiracies all come into the picture. Before, most of that stuff had been backstory, but in MGS3 all that crap becomes part of the game's unfolding plot. Layered over the stupid "family drama," it was way more than the game could support. For me, MGS3 totally fell apart as it became exactly the sort of bombastic, silly junk that the series' detractors accuse it of being.

Luckily, MGS4 brought the series back to the series' plot strengths and fixed the most egregious and long-standing gameplay issues.

To get things back on track, I read today that there will be some graphical changes to GOW1/2. For example, they re-did the text because it didn't translate to 720p well.

To get things back on track, I read today that there will be some graphical changes to GOW1/2. For example, they re-did the text because it didn't translate to 720p well.

God of War in the God of War rerelease thread? Inconceivable!

So, where did you read this? I wouldn't mind checking it out.

EDIT: Nevermind, found this interview at IGN.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1020686p1.html

I like the new methodology of having the developer videos available from the video section of the PS3. Batman: Arkham Asylum did it first (to the best of my knowledge), and it's mentioned as probable for the GOW disc, too. It's nice to go straight to the video files without having to boot up the game.

On a side note, I've got a friend who is PS2-only who is very excited that I am going to give him my discs once this new set comes out. I don't think they're worth much used, and I'd rather spread the GOW joy than make $12, or whatever I'd get for the used games that are both available for about $20 new, anyway.

Kotaku... yea I know.

They also bring say they were thinking about upgrading textures. I personally don't think thats necessary. It's a lot of work and you can't update half of them because they don't look like they belong. And if you don't do a good job you lose the consistency that made the original great. IMO GoW 1 looked better than most 2005 360 games.

From ign.com:

God of War Collection Q&A
We find out why we'll be playing through the PS2 classics for the quadrillionth time and loving every minute of it.
by Chris Roper

September 1, 2009 - The Internet rejoiced yesterday as Sony officially announced the God of War Collection, a PlayStation 3 release that will see both the original classic plus its sequel hit the PS3 sometime this year, just in time to whet our appetite for next March's release of God of War III.

When we hear about something new related to the God of War franchise we always want more, so we got on the horn this morning with John Hight, the director of product development at Sony Santa Monica Studio, to find out what's in store for us.

IGN: First off, thanks for taking the time to talk with us.

John Hight: No problem.

IGN: Let me start with some more generalized questions because the hot issue these days is backwards-compatability with PlayStation 2 games. So to clarify first off, is this package a "port" where you actually went in and changed the code to work on the PlayStation 3 as a PS3-specific title, or is this something that's running inside of an emulator?

John Hight: Well, I don't necessary agree with just the terminology "port", but given those two limited options, then we'd have to put it in the "port" category. We haven't developed general purpose code that would now work for every PS2 title out there. Basically what we wanted to do was we wanted to remaster [the games], and we've done a lot of things to not only have it run on the PS3 but also make it look better, perform smoother and have a little bit extra functionality.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/102/1020686/god-of-war-collection-20090901052318869-000.jpg
Screen from the original PS2 release of God of War.

IGN: So how difficult was it for you to move it over to the PS3? A lot of people wanted to see God of War go there, but also things like the Team ICO stuff and a lot of other classic PS2 games. How difficult was it to move the game over, and do you think that this would be something feasible for other studios to do?

John Hight: Well, that goes back to how games were developed in the first place. For us, it wasn't too difficult because, and I'll brag on our engineering team, but the code they developed is pretty straightforward, well-documented, we don't do a lot of assembler programming, it's all straight C… Some teams have developed their own scripting language or whatever that would then require a translation of that interpreter over to the PS3 - we don't do that, it's straight C, so it made that aspect a lot cleaner. Plus, the other thing is that we've had very little attrition in our engineering team in our history of this studio, so the guys that originally wrote the code for God of War 1 are right here. Some of them worked on the port, some of them were able to offer, "Oh yeah, this is what's going on here. This part of the code's important" or "Don't worry, that part of the code's not important, you can ignore that", so it made it go a lot smoother, to have those guys around.

IGN: What we understand about the port, for lack of a better word, is that it's now at 720p, it runs at 60 frames-per-second, it's got anti-aliasing going on...

John Hight: 2X anti-aliasing...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/102/1020686/god-of-war-collection-20090901052347977-000.jpg
Screen from the original PS2 release of God of War II.

IGN: Did you all do anything with using higher-resolution textures? Is there any way that the art has changed, or the number of frames of animation or anything like that?

John Hight: That's a good question. So, we're still kind of evaluating, but we were prepared to upgrade the textures, at least on Kratos on both games, but honestly it's looking so good that we're thinking, you know what? It's probably better to keep it in its pure form. We're playing around with potentially swapping out textures on some of the user interface and the fonts just to make them a little more readable. It looked great back on the PS2 on a regular TV, or even an HDTV, but once you get into an HDTV running at 720p, some of the text gets a little weedy, so we are going to swap that out.

IGN: Are there going to be any changes to the games whatsoever? Be it new content that's added in, or anything removed? Or will anything be tweaked, like for instance the spinning pillar in hell?

John Hight: [laughs] No, we're not tweaking anything. If we open up that can of worms, we would probably spend another year trying to right any wrongs we may have had, or areas that were perhaps a little more difficult in retrospect than we had hoped they would be. Instead, we kind of took the stance that we want it to be the pure experience, what people would have played when they played God of War originally.

But in terms of content, what we did add was network Trophy support. We felt like that was a pretty cool feature and it wouldn't violate the sanctity of the original games. But it also gives some bragging points.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/102/1020686/god-of-war-collection-20090901052318166-000.jpg
Screen from the original PS2 release of God of War II.

IGN: Speaking of that, how are Trophies being handled in the game? Are they being treated as if there are two separate games, or…

John Hight: Yes, yes it is. We actually got the OK from our network platform guys to give us… essentially we're getting double the amount of Trophies because we have two games on one disc.

IGN: So are there two Platinums in there?

John Hight: I haven't looked at the final list, but I would say "probably".

IGN: Going back to the content, one thing that was great about the original releases of both games is that they were essentially huge collector's editions in the regular package, with all sorts of behind-the-scenes stuff, documentaries, a museum where you could walk around and see models that weren't used, the Challenge of the Gods... Is all that stuff returning?

John Hight: All of the content that was in God of War 1 was in the playable image, and that will be in there. With God of War II, we actually had a separate DVD that had some bonus content in it, and what we're exploring with that is... We didn't want to just put a DVD on a Blu-ray disc. We thought that that would be kind of lame. So what we're exploring is putting that content in what's called a media file, so you'll be able to use your PlayStation 3 XrossMediaBar, go over into the Media area and have all the functionality of that to view those movies. So, one of the benefits is that you'll now be able to stop the stuff, rewind, fast-forward, so you'll treat them just like media files. So that's pretty cool.

The only thing is that we're a little concerned that because it's not in the same directory as the game itself that consumers might not realize that that content is there, so we will have a little menu item that says "Additional Bonus Content for God of War II" and it'll direct them to the Media section of their XrossMediaBar. We just felt like why should we reinvent a movie player when there's this awesome one on the PlayStation 3.

IGN: Moving on to two other games in the God of War franchise… Firstly, there were rumors going around before the compilation was made official that a demo for God of War III might be on it. What's the case on that?

John Hight: That is unlikely at this juncture. First and foremost, we want to be able to have this available for this holiday, and we don't have a demo available yet that we feel is release-ready. I know a lot of people played the E3 demo and dug it and everything but, as far as our standards, it's not ready to go into everybody's home. So we wouldn't want to hinder our efforts to get God of War 1 and 2 out. We felt like the fans were pretty outspoken as far as, "Man, I want to play now" and "I want to play this Christmas", so we put the emphasis on that.

IGN: And then the other game is Chains of Olympus, which was fantastic on the PSP. Was there ever any thought about including that on this disc in some fashion?

John Hight: No, that won't be part of this disc. The goal for this was really, "Let's bring this experience up to the PS3". We have all of the original assets, the assets were done at a level that was… You know, a lot of people claimed, "Wow, you know, God of War II looks like it's PS3…" Well a lot of that has to do with the fact that we built this thing with higher-res assets. And even God of War 1, this stuff holds up because we work at a level higher than our target platform, so we can go back and pretty easily move this stuff up, so... It's a little different case with the PSP.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/102/1020686/god-of-war-collection-20090901052335618-000.jpg
Screen from the original PS2 release of God of War.

IGN: That pretty much does it on our end. Is there anything that you wanted to mention that we hadn't covered yet?

John Hight: No, I think we pretty much got it. The main thing I want to run home to everyone is that we wouldn't be doing this if our fans hadn't been so outspoken about having it. We had talked about the potential of doing this about a year ago, and it sort of died on the vine. But it was sort of the outcry from the fans saying, "We want to have this" that led to us saying, "OK, let's do it. Let's put this together." Clearly there's an interest, and it kind of provided the ammo to make this happen. So just encourage people to always speak up, say what they want, and we'll try to respond.

IGN: Thank you very much for talking with us.

John Hight: Oh, my pleasure. Thank you for taking the time.

Is it sad that we're so starved for decent games that a rerelease is incredible news. GOW1 & 2 are incredible games, but we've all played them. Graphics have become so important it seems game makers have lost the ability to use games as a way to tell a story.

Relevant section to the above question:So, we're still kind of evaluating, but we were prepared to upgrade the textures, at least on Kratos on both games, but honestly it's looking so good that we're thinking, you know what? It's probably better to keep it in its pure form. We're playing around with potentially swapping out textures on some of the user interface and the fonts just to make them a little more readable. It looked great back on the PS2 on a regular TV, or even an HDTV, but once you get into an HDTV running at 720p, some of the text gets a little weedy, so we are going to swap that out.It sounds like they're just upgrading the textures on the UI. Looks as though they're considering other texture upgrades--especially the Kratos model--but not much more than that. Otherwise, everything's being left as is.

Is it sad that we're so starved for decent games that a rerelease is incredible news. GOW1 & 2 are incredible games, but we've all played them. Graphics have become so important it seems game makers have lost the ability to use games as a way to tell a story.

That's silly. None of us are starved for decent games (I have a PS3 back-log of at least five incompletes and three never-started).

A} Plenty of people are excited about various new PS3 releases (like Uncharted 2, God of War III)

B} Go to the Blu-ray forum to see that even with movies people get excited by a high-def release of one of their all-time favorite flicks. This is no different.

Is it sad that we're so starved for decent games that a rerelease is incredible news. GOW1 & 2 are incredible games, but we've all played them. Graphics have become so important it seems game makers have lost the ability to use games as a way to tell a story.

Who's starved? And, please don't speak for anyone but yourself, and lose the "we've all played them."

I have two friends who bought PS3s after owning XBoxes last gen. They are both extremely excited about getting to play both of these games.


The rest of your post about "game makers have lost the ability to use games as a way to tell a story" is crap.

^^^ Just another random troll bomb, and we tripped the detonator. :eek:

Bah, I'm not the only person who thinks this gen is lacking for storyline based games. There's never been a generation that was almost completely dominated by a single genre either. A genre that's known more for "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!" than decent storylines.

I don't care about storyline in games.

It's nice but it's clearly second fiddle to mechanics.

I agree that FPS games have dominated this generation, but what can you do, it's what sells. I disagree about previous generations - for example 8-bit and 16-bit were completely awash in platformers (and, to be very specific, post-Sonic, they were awash in "animal mascot with an attitude" platformers).

Is it sad that we're so starved for decent games that a rerelease is incredible news. GOW1 & 2 are incredible games, but we've all played them. Graphics have become so important it seems game makers have lost the ability to use games as a way to tell a story.

I'm not sure that's the case. Graphics are important to a lot of gamers, but when it comes down to it, if the gameplay sucks the game sucks.

With GOW, I think it's more about introducing the first two games to PS3 users that never played them before the third one comes out. (and making a ton of money in the process) A lot of people, not the majority, but a lot of people, had moved on past the PS2 to the 360 and the PS3 when GOW I and II were released, especially GOWII. By releasing them on PS3 they allow a lot of people who never played them to get introduced to the series and catch up on the story before GOWIII hits shelves.

Is it sad that we're so starved for decent games that a rerelease is incredible news.

You're missing out on a bunch of great games if that's what you think.

I've been behind the ball since April, and have a pretty deep queue I'm running through and can't keep up.

Bah, I'm not the only person who thinks this gen is lacking for storyline based games. There's never been a generation that was almost completely dominated by a single genre either. A genre that's known more for "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!" than decent storylines.

I don't even own a FPS for my PS3 and there are more games out there that I want to buy/play than I am able to afford time/money.

From looking at your username, I'm assuming you're just upset b/c the RPG's have taken a back seat to many other genres in recent years. Don't worry, a new Final Fantasy will be out soon enough! :)

I don't even own a FPS for my PS3 and there are more games out there that I want to buy/play than I am able to afford time/money.

From looking at your username, I'm assuming you're just upset b/c the RPG's have taken a back seat to many other genres in recent years. Don't worry, a new Final Fantasy will be out soon enough! :)

Thanks for the pick me up :D Yeah, and White Knight Chronicles (hopefully). But I don't discriminate, I'll play anything with a good storyline. Even FPS. Bioshock was amazing. I've been able to stay close to busy with the games that are available but I'm starting to run on fumes. I need Dragon Age Origins and Brutal Legend soon or I'm gonna get bored. I thought there was something that looked good coming out in September but I can't remember now.

Might have to download that Shadow Complex on the 360. Been hearing good things about it and its based off a book by one of my favorite authors.

Shadow Complex's good but the story is rubbish.

Thanks for the pick me up :D Yeah, and White Knight Chronicles (hopefully). But I don't discriminate, I'll play anything with a good storyline. Even FPS. Bioshock was amazing. I've been able to stay close to busy with the games that are available but I'm starting to run on fumes. I need Dragon Age Origins and Brutal Legend soon or I'm gonna get bored. I thought there was something that looked good coming out in September but I can't remember now.

Might have to download that Shadow Complex on the 360. Been hearing good things about it and its based off a book by one of my favorite authors.

Beatles Rock Band comes out this month, new Batman just came out, plenty of sports games recently out or coming soon (Fight Night, Madden, NHL, NBA) but those are of course more career driven than story...Vandal Hearts and Demon's Souls are RPGs coming out soon but I'm not familiar with them so they could suck for all I know.

As for Ico and SotC...I'd probably pass out if that happened too.

You and me both, I hope this is the start of a trend when it comes to some of the old PS2 greats. (because let's face it, PS2 games look like crap on a HDTV)

You and me both, I hope this is the start of a trend when it comes to some of the old PS2 greats. (because let's face it, PS2 games look like crap on a HDTV)

If they support progressive scan they don't look too bad. GOWII can still hold its own!

Bah, I'm not the only person who thinks this gen is lacking for storyline based games. There's never been a generation that was almost completely dominated by a single genre either. A genre that's known more for "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!" than decent storylines.

Please try harder. Throw in some politics, personal stuff, whatever you have to do, but it's just not good enough as is.

You and me both, I hope this is the start of a trend when it comes to some of the old PS2 greats. (because let's face it, PS2 games look like crap on a HDTV)

From the sound of that interview, the likelihood of other studios doing the same is dependant upon their original programming methods. They might not all be as easy as the GoW games to PS3ify.

Yeah, it's a word. I mean if "likelihood" is a word, why not?

For what it's worth I agree w/ rpggamer. I think they are even having a panel w/ industry folks about this very topic at PAX.

Game play is def important, but I think a story can carry a game just as well. There have been many a game where I played through wonky controls because I was engrossed in the story and vica versa

Bah, I'm not the only person who thinks this gen is lacking for storyline based games. There's never been a generation that was almost completely dominated by a single genre either. A genre that's known more for "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!" than decent storylines.

I agree with you....I don't think it's trollish t all really. I have a game back log on my Nintendo DS (Final Fantasy 3 & 4, Chrono Trigger, Yoshi's Island DS, Mario Party, etc) while my PS3 has sat idle for some time barring the occasional Bluray or DVD I pop in it.

But we're finally coming to a point in the PS3's life where there are quite a few games that I am looking forward to all coming out...more Ratchet & Clank, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII, and now GoW 1 & 2 remastered. Plus I might have to check out Batman:AA soon too!

God, I could care less about another FPS or open world sandbox type game of any sort (Killzone 2, Bioshock, the biannual release of another Call of Duty, inFamous, Prototype, GTA, blah, blah, blah). I'm sure they're good games but I dont care for the style of play required for them. Variety is a good thing to have and the lack of it is why I havent invested the kind of money on this generation of console as what I did with the prior generations. Though with the last generation I did have both an Xbox & PS2 so I was afforded the luxury of having ALL games of ALL genres.


For what it's worth I agree w/ rpggamer. I think they are even having a panel w/ industry folks about this very topic at PAX.

Game play is def important, but I think a story can carry a game just as well. There have been many a game where I played through wonky controls because I was engrossed in the story and vica versa


A slightly interesting (to me) story is the only reason I played through to the end of Assasins Creed.

I am bored of FPS games but I can't wait for Bioshock 2.

Heavy Rain promises to be one of the most story-heavy titles ever made according to previews, and games like the RPG Valkyrie Chronicles have gotten great reviews as well. Players interested in plot development during gameplay may want to give them a try.

Shadow Complex's good but the story is rubbish.

Killed that one for me :p

The inevitable question now becomes:

if GoW 1 & 2 get re-released in 720p/60fps/AA with trophies, what PS2 games are next? :D

Personally, I'd love to see the old Ratchet & Clank games - especially Up Your Arsenal - get the HD treatment.

God, I could care less about another FPS or open world sandbox type game

You should at least rent inFamous. It's open world, but has a great superhero story and is actually really fun to play gameplay wise. Sandbox games rarely get it right, but sucker punch nailed it. And it's much less repetitive then AC.

That's coming from someone who barely liked any of the GTA's after 3, and who really didn't like GTA4.

This is a pretty cool idea for a lot of the gems from last gen. I don't know how feasible it is for most PS2 exclusive games though. According to the IGN interview, this was mostly possible because the GoW games were mainly based in straight C programming (meaning potentially portable to other platforms). PS2 exclusives that were programmed "to the metal" would need an extensive amount of reprogramming to create code usable on the PS3. I'd imagine that multiplatform games from last gen would much more easily make a transition like this (unless the source code has been misplaced). If this title goes on to decent sales, I can only imagine other companies prepping compilation discs as well.

Heavy Rain promises to be one of the most story-heavy titles ever made according to previews, and games like the RPG Valkyrie Chronicles have gotten great reviews as well. Players interested in plot development during gameplay may want to give them a try.

Heavy Rain looks very intriguing. It's basically an interactive movie from what I've read from people who have played a demo of it, so to rpggamer, you'd probably like that one. Has some of the best, if not the best, graphics too. The Last Guardian, not sure on the release date of this, looks to be very engrossing as well. The story in it hasn't really been revealed but it will revolve around a boy's relationship with his guardian...a dog/bird/manbearpig/chicken giant beast. It's made by the same team that did Ico and SotC.

I wish they'd remake Madden 2006 for PS3 :)

That's silly. None of us are starved for decent games (I have a PS3 back-log of at least five incompletes and three never-started).

A} Plenty of people are excited about various new PS3 releases (like Uncharted 2, God of War III)

B} Go to the Blu-ray forum to see that even with movies people get excited by a high-def release of one of their all-time favorite flicks. This is no different.

Some people actually are starved, especially rpg gamers. I primarily play rpgs and there is not many rpgs yet that interest me.

I was hoping for the witcher to come, since my pc doesn't play it well, but it got cancelled. Fallout 3 is somewhat interesting, but so sick of shooters and that's what it looks like. Final fantasy's will probably come out in 2020. Dragon age might be worth a pickup, will check out reviews later. White knight chronicles looks boring, and didn't like past level 5 games. Alpha protocol, once again going back to shooting, wth is up with trend. Played oblivion long time ago on pc, was alright but story sucked and didn't like level scaling. Demon souls doesn't seem to have a story, so doesn't interest me.

I guess this is what sells though, so i try not to complain. I show my complaints with money spent. I just sold my fat ps3 to buy the slim. Then i thought what games i want to play and there is none, so decided not to buy until later. I will probably buy the slim when Gran Turismo 5 or Final fantasy drops.

I did play valkyria chronicles though and it was great along with MGS4. Both must plays in my opinion.

Demon's Souls actually has a story, a really good one, with great voice acting.

Some people actually are starved, especially rpg gamers. I primarily play rpgs and there is not many rpgs yet that interest me.



Those gamers who are starved for RPGs won't have their hunger sated by God of War. So, this "re-release" wouldn't qualify as incredible news to them. Of course, that only matters if you want to stick with the actual subject of the thread.

You should at least rent inFamous. It's open world, but has a great superhero story and is actually really fun to play gameplay wise. Sandbox games rarely get it right, but sucker punch nailed it. And it's much less repetitive then AC.

That's coming from someone who barely liked any of the GTA's after 3, and who really didn't like GTA4.

+1 inFamous wasn't GTA4. Storyline and art direction were amazing and I'm eagerly awaiting a sequel.

Sorry for highjacking the thread, brassmonkey. Sometimes its hard to stay on topic when there's so many things to discuss. This is the only thing that keeps me sane at work :P

I wish they would make a breath of fire for the PS3 and an Arc the Lad.

Any word on in game DD or DTS??

Demon's Souls actually has a story, a really good one, with great voice acting.

Hmm, interesting, i may have to check it out some more.

Those gamers who are starved for RPGs won't have their hunger sated by God of War. So, this "re-release" wouldn't qualify as incredible news to them. Of course, that only matters if you want to stick with the actual subject of the thread.

Yes, sorry i got off track. God of war series is great will probably pick up the re-release, just sold my old ones.

Any word on in game DD or DTS??

No, just out of game DD and DTS

Shadow Complex's good but the story is rubbish.

Just finished it. It has about as much story as it needs, which is to say virtually none. I mean, what's the story behind the original 2D metroids or castlevanias? Answer: not much. Investigate mysterious station/Planet X. Kill Dracula.

Yeah, that's about the same as here. I know the game is supposed to take place at the same time as the book "Empire", but really, who would know? I can only assume the opening sequence is a scene from the book.

You want a good story? Read a book. You want to mindlessly entertain yourself? Play videogames.

You want a good story? Read a book. You want to mindlessly entertain yourself? Play videogames.

Or you can play Halo and I can play Valkyria Chronicles and I'll read Robert Heinlein while you can feel free to be illiterate.

You want a good story? Read a book. You want to mindlessly entertain yourself? Play videogames.

We all get that you don't like a good story in a game. For most of us,..it is important.

We all get that you don't like a good story in a game. For most of us,..it is important.


NO I do enjoy a good story in a game, its just not the #1 factor... its basically a nice bonus. What I don't get is people whining about lack of games with a good story... seriously go rent a movie or read a book!

Or you can play Halo and I can play Valkyria Chronicles and I'll read Robert Heinlein while you can feel free to be illiterate.

halo sucks and is boring

I think the large influx of shooters has a lot to do with most RPGers playing MMOs that aren't offered on consoles. There are two groups of people who play shooters, PC guys and console guys, if most of the RPGers didn't buy the console why would you develop a game for it?

As for GOD I and II, I never played them but I will probably pick up this "remastering" of the originals.

I think the large influx of shooters has a lot to do with most RPGers playing MMOs that aren't offered on consoles. There are two groups of people who play shooters, PC guys and console guys, if most of the RPGers didn't buy the console why would you develop a game for it?

As for GOD I and II, I never played them but I will probably pick up this "remastering" of the originals.

Wow, I never even thought of that. So what you're saying is MMO players aren't just ruining their own lives, they're ruining console gaming as a whole. Wow, they're more evil than I thought.

NO I do enjoy a good story in a game, its just not the #1 factor... its basically a nice bonus. What I don't get is people whining about lack of games with a good story... seriously go rent a movie or read a book!

Plus, too... most videogame stories are just complete and utter garbage. I was reading Eurogamer's recent feature on C&C, and Westwood put a lot of work into the story (live action, hired B-list celebs for the FMV, etc.). And while they were describing it, I just thought, wow do they realize how stupid they sound?

You can say the same for virtually every videogame.

Playing games for story... what's the point when they are all so bad?

Official cover:

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/102/1021005/godofwar_1251922996.jpg

from ign.com

And I just pre ordered it: :)

http://www.amazon.com/God-War-Collection-Playstation-3/dp/B002NN7AKU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251925500&sr=8-7

And I just pre ordered it: :)

http://www.amazon.com/God-War-Collection-Playstation-3/dp/B002NN7AKU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251925500&sr=8-7

Pre-ordered, thanks!

Plus, too... most videogame stories are just complete and utter garbage. I was reading Eurogamer's recent feature on C&C, and Westwood put a lot of work into the story (live action, hired B-list celebs for the FMV, etc.). And while they were describing it, I just thought, wow do they realize how stupid they sound?

You can say the same for virtually every videogame.

Playing games for story... what's the point when they are all so bad?

Well, live action is stupid for games. Although, I did enjoy playing wing commander and road rash on 3do, both had live actors.

Is it that hard to understand that some people want story in games. There is also trend these days of multiplayer vs singleplayer. Some people just prefer singleplayer experience with a developed storyline.

To me story is just as important as gameplay. It all depends on the game too. My all time favorite game is counterstrike 1.6 and it has zero story.

Back on topic: god of war storyline is good enough for me since gameplay is fun although a little button mashy.

I was hoping it to be out before Dec 31st, unless it's just a placeholder.

This past week, Sony announced the re-release of the revered hits God of War, and God of War 2 together on a single Blu-Ray Disc. Each game will be remastered, and feature full trophy support. TheGod of War: Collection is now available for pre-order and the official box art has been revealed.


For the low price of $39.99, you can pre-order a copy of God of War: Collection from Amazon, which is sure to be one of the hottest selling games of the season.

Head on over to Amazon and check out the official art.

Sweet cover art, for sure.

God I hate the new PS3 font more than the old PS3 font and I thought that was impossible.

Hate a font? Seriously? I envy you guys who are able to reserve so much animus towards the shape of letters. I guess I've got bigger things to worry about in my life than to waste time on something like that.

The day I care about the shape of an 'S' is the day I hope someone piths me with an icepick and ends it all.

Hate a font? Seriously? I envy you guys who are able to reserve so much animus towards the shape of letters. I guess I've got bigger things to worry about in my life than to waste time on something like that.

The day I care about the shape of an 'S' is the day I hope someone piths me with a narwhal tooth and ends it all.

Fixed.

Fixed.

I concede to your heightened level of awesome.

Or you can play Halo and I can play Valkyria Chronicles and I'll read Robert Heinlein while you can feel free to be illiterate.

Which is a pretty ironic statement to make, if you're trying to imply that Halo doesn't have a story. A common complaint is that Halo has a very DENSE story, not that it doesn't have one. That story has managed to support six novels, two graphic novels and currently has a limited series in print, as well as having an upcoming anime video, short story collection and trilogy written by SF author Greg Bear.

If you don't like the story or think it's poorly executed, that's certainly your prerogative, but to imply Halo (a series with multiple cut-scenes dedicated to political infighting) doesn't have one just comes off sounding pretty silly.

Which is a pretty ironic statement to make, if you're trying to imply that Halo doesn't have a story. A common complaint is that Halo has a very DENSE story, not that it doesn't have one. That story has managed to support six novels, two graphic novels and currently has a limited series in print, as well as having an upcoming anime video, short story collection and trilogy written by SF author Greg Bear.

If you don't like the story or think it's poorly executed, that's certainly your prerogative, but to imply Halo (a series with multiple cut-scenes dedicated to political infighting) doesn't have one just comes off sounding pretty silly.

Fine, it doesn't have a very good story.

:)

That's fine, KZ2 also has a very generic, uninteresting, run of the mill FPS story. Most do, especially since they're built around increasingly getting more powerful, and increasing throwing more cannon fodder at you.

Half-Life is just about he only FPS game I've ever played with a captivating story that made gameplay secondary IMO. FPS just seem to be a genre where a good to great story, or good gameplay is usually mutually exclusive.

I prefer a story. Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, Half-Life, Mass Effect.

All are better with the story than if they were just Generic RPG #2317, Generic Stealth Action Game #562, Generic Open World Game #287, Generic FPS #2798, and Generic American RPG #422.

Most games have some semblance of a story...even crap games like Haze. KZ2 might have a generic, run of the mill story, but at least it's something. Wouldn't it be even more boring if it was just level after level with no story whatsoever?

In fact, I can't really think of a game without a story. I guess racing and sports games don't have much story to think of, but pretty much any platformer/shooter/rpg has at least something.

A story is what can turn a "game with great gameplay mechanics" into an epic game. It's what spawns franchises, comics, movies, novels, cartoons, etc.

I think the world would have been a better place without Uwe Boll movies...

A story is what can turn a "game with great gameplay mechanics" into an epic game. It's what spawns franchises, comics, movies, novels, cartoons, etc.

Not always.

DOOM for instance. MK is another.

Hype is a big part of it too. Games with very poor stories get push as IP's because they sell and play well, not because they're worth anything artistically.

I think the world would have been a better place without Uwe Boll movies...


Or Paul Anderson.

Or Roland Emmerich. Of the flicks I've checked out, I've disliked literally everything he's made.

In fact, I can't really think of a game without a story. I guess racing and sports games don't have much story to think of, but pretty much any platformer/shooter/rpg has at least something.


I've read that the upcoming Beatles Rock Band game is the first of the music games to have a story.

Most puzzle games don't have stories. The difficulty increases, but there's no narrative.

I've heard it argued that the emphasis on story has caused people to think that games should be like movies, when games fundamentally aren't movies. Tetris, the argument goes, is a great game and has no story, and game developers should focus more on gameplay mechanics and less on story. I understand this argument intellectually, but personally I like stories, so I prefer games that have them.

Since this thread is obviously badly derailed I might as well go OT too.

I've heard it argued that the emphasis on story has caused people to think that games should be like movies, when games fundamentally aren't movies. Tetris, the argument goes, is a great game and has no story, and game developers should focus more on gameplay mechanics and less on story. I understand this argument intellectually, but personally I like stories, so I prefer games that have them.

Games should focus on what makes them better. Sometimes it's a solid narrative, other times it's pure gameplay. Games like GoW I and II, for example, have gameplay that is solid, but nothing extraordinary. The GoW games really shine because of the setting and story. Or you can take a game like N+ which is pure gameplay with no attempt at a story whatsoever.

Personally, I really hate it when I'm playing a game where they just tack on some horrible POS story that only exists to somehow justify the gameplay/setting (the Monkey Ball games for example (please make Dr. Badboon go away)).

Since this thread is obviously badly derailed I might as well go OT too.



Games should focus on what makes them better. Sometimes it's a solid narrative, other times it's pure gameplay. Games like GoW I and II, for example, have gameplay that is solid, but nothing extraordinary. The GoW games really shine because of the setting and story. Or you can take a game like N+ which is pure gameplay with no attempt at a story whatsoever.

Personally, I really hate it when I'm playing a game where they just tack on some horrible POS story that only exists to somehow justify the gameplay/setting (the Monkey Ball games for example (please make Dr. Badboon go away)).

Agree 100%, it depends on the game. But, i do tend to prefer games with more developed storyline since my favorite genre is rpg. But with games like GOW, everything fits, and i don't expect more from the story than the developers offer.

Nobody mentioned Heavenly Sword?! Great story and awesome voice acting. I love a good game with a great story, its more engaging and immersive. Anybdy wanna buy GOW1 and 2 for PS2?

First leak showing off the highdef textures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=fvst

First leak showing off the highdef textures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=fvst


I was going to watch that to call "fake" but now I want you to die in a fire

I was going to watch that to call "fake" but now I want you to die in a fire

We could also use him as a throwing knife target while he burn.

I was hoping it to be out before Dec 31st, unless it's just a placeholder.

according to gamestop computers, the release date is the same as modern warfare 2. but im not sure if its the real date or just a wild guess.

First leak showing off the highdef textures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=fvst

2007 called. It wants its jokes back.

Hate a font? Seriously? I envy you guys who are able to reserve so much animus towards the shape of letters. I guess I've got bigger things to worry about in my life than to waste time on something like that.

The day I care about the shape of an 'S' is the day I hope someone piths me with an icepick and ends it all.

lol lighten up bro, I said I hate the font, not that I want to kill who decided on it. The irony in your post is you take serious what you deride me for commenting on, assuming I was even serious in the first place. Silly internets.

Nice...:)

PPPPfffffftttttttt!!!!!! I just spit Pepsi all over my computer!! That's hella funny!

Hate a font? Seriously? I envy you guys who are able to reserve so much animus towards the shape of letters. I guess I've got bigger things to worry about in my life than to waste time on something like that.

The day I care about the shape of an 'S' is the day I hope someone piths me with an icepick and ends it all.

PPPPfffffftttttttt!!!!!! I just spit Pepsi all over my computer!!

PM me the code on your cap :D

lol lighten up bro, I said I hate the font, not that I want to kill who decided on it. The irony in your post is you take serious what you deride me for commenting on, assuming I was even serious in the first place. Silly internets.

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Good news, I just got an email from amazon.com and my new delivery estimate is November 16!

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No I'm pretty sure that post was full of win. :)

No need to dwell on it, think happy thoughts:

http://blog.glennz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/happy_thoughts.jpg

Here's some good news for those anticipating this release:

Hello from Amazon.com.

We have received new release date information related to the order you placed on September 02 2009 (Order# 105-4020183-6073016). The item(s) listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected based on the new release date:

"God of War: Collection"
Previous estimated arrival date: January 07 2010 - January 11 2010
New estimated arrival date: November 17 2009 - November 19 2009

So it'll be hitting stores right before black friday

Here's some good news for those anticipating this release:



So it'll be hitting stores right before black friday

That is madness!

Madness? This is Sparta!!!

ooooh... I see what ya did there.

clever.

ooooh... I see what ya did there.

clever.

Clever? This is Sparta!

*doesn't quite work this time*

It's clever anytime lol

*doesn't quite work this time*

Clever? This is Sparta! (http://www.sadtrombone.com/)


Now it works ;)

So when I was about to pre-order, I could not find a place to select release date delivery. I only saw the standard, two day, and next day. Any ideas?

Cool stuff here guys. It seems that a demo for GOWIII will be included in the re-release out in November.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/god-of-war-iii-e3-2009-demo-included-in-god-of-war-collection/

Also, if someone could help me with my question above...that'd be just great! :D

Cool stuff here guys. It seems that a demo for GOWIII will be included in the re-release out in November.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/god-of-war-iii-e3-2009-demo-included-in-god-of-war-collection/

Also, if someone could help me with my question above...that'd be just great! :D

Another reason to pick it up. Who need any more reasons now? I sure don't!

Another reason to pick it up. Who need any more reasons now? I sure don't!

Amazon gift cards to use up? I just used mine on preordering Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. I was going to pick it up locally but wanted to use up credit I had accumulated before I forgot about it.

Hey, can someone help me understand at what point you can select release date delivery when pre-ordering a game from Amazon? I only see the standard shipping options when I go to pre-order this release...

Placing a Release-Date Delivery Order

For this delivery option to appear as available during checkout, both the item and your delivery address must be eligible. If an item and shipping address qualify for Release-Date Delivery, that option will be presented on the item detail page or in the shopping cart during checkout.

To place a Release-Date Delivery order:

1. Place an eligible item in your shopping cart and click the Proceed to checkout button.
2. Select an eligible shipping address when prompted. More information is listed below in the Fine Print.
3. Select Release-Date Delivery as your shipping option when prompted. If the shipping option does not appear, either the item or the shipping address is not eligible.
4. Verify your payment method and complete your order.

Looks like this isn't qualifying for the option.

Full details here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-1?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200180350&qid=1253741434&sr=1-1

Thanks Chris...I suppose it could be my delivery address too. I'll try changing it up.

Thanks Chris...I suppose it could be my delivery address too. I'll try changing it up.

I don't get it either and I work at Amazon :(

First (off-camera) video of the games! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_-9wkQFio) I suggest you turn off the sound because the camera man is terrible at recording. Also, everything is in slow motion, maybe to help show off the improved resolution. Still, they are looking good for PS2 games. :)

First (off-camera) video of the games! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_-9wkQFio) I suggest you turn off the sound because the camera man is terrible at recording. Also, everything is in slow motion, maybe to help show off the improved resolution. Still, they are looking good for PS2 games. :)

thanks Joe, salivating in anticipation for this one. The increase in rendering resolution sure does wonders.

Hmm looking at that vid, I wondering whether or not they just upscaled the rendering resolution or whether they actually did go back and insert of the the original highres texture assets. There are a few scenes there that look significantly better than I remember them on the PS2 in progressive scan mode.

Did you all hear that Ueda Fumito is entertaining a similar packet for ICO and SOTC. That would be awesome, alot of people never got to play ICO as it was reasonable rare.

Hmm looking at that vid, I wondering whether or not they just upscaled the rendering resolution or whether they actually did go back and insert of the the original highres texture assets. There are a few scenes there that look significantly better than I remember them on the PS2 in progressive scan mode.

They didn't upscale, the game is actually running at 720p now.

They might be applying AA to the image which would also be an improvement. There's a lot you can do to upgrade the image without touching assets.

Did you all hear that Ueda Fumito is entertaining a similar packet for ICO and SOTC. That would be awesome, alot of people never got to play ICO as it was reasonable rare.

No, all I hear is that people on the internets wish they would do that.

Hmm looking at that vid, I wondering whether or not they just upscaled the rendering resolution or whether they actually did go back and insert of the the original highres texture assets. There are a few scenes there that look significantly better than I remember them on the PS2 in progressive scan mode.

I believe GoW2 HD mode was only 640*448P, so it wasn't even full SD. the regular game itself probably normally ran in sub 400i.

Here they're gong back and re-rendering in 720P. While character and world textures might not all look great, you'll get a much better contrast between objects and effects. Also looks like they went back and inserted higher resolution character textures; but then again it could be the same old ones since we'd never be able to see that detail in the original sub SD renderings.

No, all I hear is that people on the internets wish they would do that.

Actually, he did say that he greatly hopes that his two games are revisited for the PS3. I posted the comments in the TGS thread. I'll give them their own thread.

Reminds me of PS1 games running on Bleem. Looks pretty nice. And the gameplay vids reminded me of just how bland GoW2 was. Really looking forward to replaying the first one, though.

Too bad they didn't give Chains of Olympus the same treatment and throw it on there as well.

Hey guys, now the God of War collection will include the code to download the God of War 3 demo from the Playstation Network :

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6229008.html

Awesome news indeed !

Here is the official promo video (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/16/this-is-what-the-god-of-war-collection-will-look-like-on-your-ps/)of the hi-def collection! It's due out in November.

Undoubtedly, one of the biggest games this holiday for PS3 users will be the enhanced HD ports of the original God of War and God of War II. Considering these two games were among the finest looking titles of the last generation, it should come as no surprise that the visuals have held up quite nicely. The added resolution is appreciated -- but even better than that is the smooth quality of the anti-aliasing.

Included with the Blu-ray disc will be a voucher for a PSN download of the E3 God of War III demo, y'know the one we called "God of War in HD." We suppose that assessment is kind of ironic now, right?

It'd be nice if they'd put that in 720p for download on the PSN. It's not really easy to get an idea of what it'll look like in a teeny intarwebz video.

Day one buy, though.

It'd be nice if they'd put that in 720p for download on the PSN. It's not really easy to get an idea of what it'll look like in a teeny intarwebz video.

Day one buy, though.

that would be really cool. I got the originals when I got the ps3. First games I actually played on the ps3, and first time I ever seen the series. This is not a day one purchase for me, but I would like to go through them again just before the release of GOW3, get the trophies and stuff, but mostly just to have the story fresh in my head.

The game already looked good on the ps3 with the upscaling it does. There is a hack to get the second one to go progressive too. Makes me wonder just how much better this will look if any.

720p video here

http://www.godofwar.com/Collections/

720p video here

http://www.godofwar.com/Collections/

You're awesome. Downloading now. Card readers FTW.

Looks like they cut alot of corners here.

http://gamersvantage.com/index.php?blog=2&title=god_of_war_collection_gimped&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Looks like they cut alot of corners here.




Eh, a non-issue that even 99% of the most hard core GoW fans wouldn't notice on their own. The screenies however do show how nice the HD upgrade looks in comparison. Oh, and alot is not aword. :D

guys, you need to post summaries for those of us with stupid work filters.

The complaint is that the 4:3 original game is now 16:9 with the top and bottom cut off, and that the 4:3 hud elements are rendered 16:9 so they are stretched.

Basically, it looks identical to a PS3 running in widescreen mode. Since that is how I played it I don't mind personally. I understand the complaint but I think it's way overblown personally.

The complaint is that the 4:3 original game is now 16:9 with the top and bottom cut off, and that the 4:3 hud elements are rendered 16:9 so they are stretched.

Basically, it looks identical to a PS3 running in widescreen mode. Since that is how I played it I don't mind personally. I understand the complaint but I think it's way overblown personally.

So a smaller vertical FOV?

That's really a non issue. And seeing as the first two games were build around the 4:3 camera, it's really the only way they could do it without going back and redoing most levels to add in detail that then be on screen in 16:9.

Although I wouldn't mind a 4:3 720P option. You'd get less then 1280 vertical lines, but I'd be fine with it getting HD 4:3 boxed.

So a smaller vertical FOV?

That's really a non issue. And seeing as the first two games were build around the 4:3 camera, it's really the only way they could do it without going back and redoing most levels to add in detail that then be on screen in 16:9.

Although I wouldn't mind a 4:3 720P option. You'd get less then 1280 vertical lines, but I'd be fine with it getting HD 4:3 boxed.

I don't think they would need to add that much, if anything at all. These levels are all fully 3D, so you would simply be expanding the view, which in combat, is always good. I would agree with you on the 4:3 720 option. If they gave me that, then I would be good.

That's a pisser. There really is a noticeable difference on the PS2 games between playing full-screen and widescreen (enough to affect playability), so I always wound up playing them in 4:3 even on a widescreen TV. I can only hope they'll leave a pillarboxed 4:3 option in the game, for those of us who don't like having the picture chopped or the interface stretched.

Are folks on an AV site suggesting stretching content is not a big deal????

Looks like they should have just thrown up some nice artwork for borders and kept the original ratio.

Are folks on an AV site suggesting stretching content is not a big deal????

Looks like they should have just thrown up some nice artwork for borders and kept the original ratio.

I thought it was said that they zoomed in and cut some out. That doesn't really involve stretching. I think we need to stop speculating and decide how it looks when it comes out, we wont know how it looks until then.

It is a shame that they didn't even bother to keep round things round instead of having them be ovals now. That is kind of lazy.

I've played, and still play, a number of older PC games that merely support vertical - (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php/Vert_-) with a stretched HUD when driving my display with its native widescreen resolution. While I haven't had much issue with these games, I do expect better for games that are being repurposed and resold for current setups.

I don't think they would need to add that much, if anything at all. These levels are all fully 3D, so you would simply be expanding the view, which in combat, is always good. I would agree with you on the 4:3 720 option. If they gave me that, then I would be good.

They would though, as the cameras were static, and pseudo dynamic (IE on a path). the worlds were 3d in the sense of what you could see on screen, but they always looked so damn good because anything off screen never existed and never had to be rendered.

That means they have to go back and add content to just about every single camera angle from its widest FOV. That's not a small task.

Also, as someone said. This isn't stretching. It's a zoom and crop of the original game, from the sounds of it. Probably not much different the playing GOWII in wide-screen HD mode

It is a shame that they didn't even bother to keep round things round instead of having them be ovals now. That is kind of lazy.

If those things are limited to button prompts and the health display, I really couldn't care any less, to be honest. I watched the preview video linked above on my 50" TV in 1080p, and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary in any of the scenes except how amazing it looked. The gameplay certainly doesn't appear stretched.

Sorry, but I'm not going to get worked up about the wall above a door not appearing. I'm still looking forward to this. And, I am almost certain that the only people who will notice anything are internet warriors.

Anyone who is upset about this is more than welcome to buy my original PS2 versions of these games for cheap so they can experience the 4:3 aspect ratio. I certainly won't be playing them after the collection comes out.

if those things are limited to button prompts and the health display, i really couldn't care any less, to be honest. I watched the preview video linked above on my 50" tv in 1080p, and i didn't notice anything out of the ordinary in any of the scenes except how amazing it looked. The gameplay certainly doesn't appear stretched.

Sorry, but i'm not going to get worked up about the wall above a door not appearing. I'm still looking forward to this. And, i am almost certain that the only people who will notice anything are internet warriors.

Anyone who is upset about this is more than welcome to buy my original ps2 versions of these games for cheap so they can experience the 4:3 aspect ratio. I certainly won't be playing them after the collection comes out.

+1

If the collection is similar to the way GOWII handled widescreen then...

It's not that big of a deal but there were times in GOWII where enemies that would be visible in the original 4:3 mode were not on screen while in 16:9. So things do get cut off a little here and there but it did not hurt game play for me, got through the game just fine.

Jason

They would though, as the cameras were static, and pseudo dynamic (IE on a path). the worlds were 3d in the sense of what you could see on screen, but they always looked so damn good because anything off screen never existed and never had to be rendered.

That means they have to go back and add content to just about every single camera angle from its widest FOV. That's not a small task.


Perhaps, the camera was so dynamic in it's presentation that in one single level, you would see it from all angles based on what you were doing anyway. My guess is that level designers probably completely detailed out a level (even 'off screen' stuff) so that when designing the camera paths that take you through the level itself, they would have the freedom they needed to set the camera whenever and wherever they needed. I'm pretty sure that the levels were built first, then the camera was pathed later. Setting the camera path and then only adding in detail wouldn't make sense from a design standpoint, because during the dev process, they may change the camera pathing based on tester feedback. There's several levels that you play where the camera gets turned around 360 degrees, so I really don't think we're talking about adding much if anything.

I just got a note from Amazon about my pre-order:

"God of War: Collection"
Release date: November 17 2009

EDIT: this date was given before as an estimate, so maybe this update makes it firm on the 17th?

http://gamersvantage.com/media/users/duncanr2n/GoWHudElement.jpg

http://gamersvantage.com/media/users/duncanr2n/GoWCHudElement.jpg

Oh noes! UNACCEPTABLE!

:rolleyes:

Eh, a non-issue that even 99% of the most hard core GoW fans wouldn't notice on their own. The screenies however do show how nice the HD upgrade looks in comparison. Oh, and alot is not aword. :D
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. I only played this game (the old one) at a Gamestop some years ago so I'm not a hard core GoW fan but I noticed as I looked at the video something seemed immediately "off" about what I was looking at. See these games, and especially this well made one, are more cinematography masterpieces as they are games. So, as with any great movie, once you start snipping and cutting and cropping the "intent of the director" is immediately marginalized and some cases it's obvious and in this instance it is. The sense of "space" is totally lost now with the severe cropping. It doesn't have the same draw in the remastered version as the original.

I do agree that the HD overhaul is nice and clean. But even in that you can tell that it's a PS2 game remastered for HD. It doesn't stand on it's own as HD game. Don't know if that part made sense lol. I have this game on pre-order and will definitely get it but I know I'm not going to my early spot to get it and probably wont run out day one to get it either. The vids, even before reading what you guys were talking about with the cropping kinda took a little umph out of it for me. Then when I came and read what you guys said it took a little more umph out. But I'll still cop this one.

Don't know when the hell I'll find time for it though, between NBA Live 10, Forza3, COD, Uncharted2(will getting REAL soon) (was REALLY hoping to say GT5 :( also ) and more I don't see how I could possibly get time in with this game. So I'll just make my goal to complete it before the big daddy drops, GoW3

I actually like it far better in widescreen than in 4:3.

In widescreen it looks far more cinematic and grand, and there isn't a lot of detail that you're losing out on the top and bottom of the composition anyway.

Sometimes less is more.

But they probably should add support for the original aspect ratio at least for GOW1, I'm not entire convinced that they designed the cinematography of GOW2 for 4:3

It doesn't stand on it's own as HD game.

Did Sony ever say it would?

I don't think so. From day one, this was just the PS2 games running on PS3, with a few enhancements.

Did Sony ever say it would?

I don't think so. From day one, this was just the PS2 games running on PS3, with a few enhancements.

+1, except I think the updated graphics are a bit more significant than "a few enhancements". The game looks better, a good deal better. Does it look like it was programmed for the PS3? eh. It is what it is, and I have to say its making me happy I've only played half of the first GoW and none of the second. Now I get to play them in HD for the first time. Game on!

I missed out on the series when it was on PS2. I tried playing GOW2 on my PS3 and had a really hard time doing so. Just didn't feel right.

That being said, I watched the trailer on my TV and it was almost a night and day difference. It's a PS2 game polished for the HD era, and I think it looks great. I'll now be able to play these games for a reasonable price.

Can only hope they do the same with ICO and SOC.

I do agree that the HD overhaul is nice and clean. But even in that you can tell that it's a PS2 game remastered for HD.



Have you ever seen any of the following PS3 games?

Tiger Woods 07
Tiger Woods 08
Madden 07
Conan
Rainbow 6 Vegas (1 & 2)

All of those "HD" games look horrible. Why are people hating so much on a package with two GREAT games for less than $18 each?

Have you ever seen any of the following PS3 games?

Tiger Woods 07
Tiger Woods 08
Madden 07
Conan
Rainbow 6 Vegas (1 & 2)

All of those "HD" games look horrible. Why are people hating so much on a package with two GREAT games for less than $18 each?


This is the internet. That's what they do.

Have you ever seen any of the following PS3 games?

Tiger Woods 07
Tiger Woods 08
Madden 07
Conan
Rainbow 6 Vegas (1 & 2)

All of those "HD" games look horrible. Why are people hating so much on a package with two GREAT games for less than $18 each?

Well, R6V looked good in singleplayer.

But anyway, in 2005, a lot of PS2/Xbox games were just ported to the 360. Games like GUN, or Tony Hawk. They looked like PS2 games in higher definition. Because they were. And so is this. I don't know why people are complaining about this being PS2 games in higher definition.

Have you ever seen any of the following PS3 games?

Tiger Woods 07
Tiger Woods 08
Madden 07
Conan
Rainbow 6 Vegas (1 & 2)

All of those "HD" games look horrible. Why are people hating so much on a package with two GREAT games for less than $18 each?

This is AVS. That's what they do.

Have you ever seen any of the following PS3 games?

Tiger Woods 07
Tiger Woods 08
Madden 07
Conan
Rainbow 6 Vegas (1 & 2)

All of those "HD" games look horrible. Why are people hating so much on a package with two GREAT games for less than $18 each?

He's one of the 1% that I was referring to. :)

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

No, it's true...alot is not a word.

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Oh, you meant the other thing. :) I gotta tell ya: stating that you only once played the game at a demo station in a gamestop a few years ago, but you're pretty sure you can see clear differences between the PS3 port and the PS2 versions doesn't really bolster your argument.

Every time I see a playstation video the end kills the entire mood, I HATE that stupid voice saying playstation.

Every time I see a playstation video the end kills the entire mood, I HATE that stupid voice saying playstation.

Fascinating.

Every time I see a playstation video the end kills the entire mood, I HATE that stupid voice saying playstation.

I much prefer the old screaming heroine addict that they had at the end of the Sega commercials back in the day....SEGA!

hahaha Sega! good old days with sonic,..SEEEEEEEEEEGAAAAAAAAAAAAA,...and the sonic tune started up! :D

Yeah sometimes I get all angry about slight changes in aspect ratio, or fonts on video game covers, or the guy at the end of the Playstation commercials...

...then I realize that I'm living a charmed life, and I should really just STFU and gain some perspective.

Looks like they cut alot of corners here.

http://gamersvantage.com/index.php?blog=2&title=god_of_war_collection_gimped&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Agh, it's Bioshock all over again!

Seriously though, I have no problem with how they did it. The problem with taking a game that was originally 4:3 and adding horizontal field of view is that there there's not really anything to show in the extra space. The game was designed with 4:3 in mind, and all the action is happening in that field of view. If you add horizontal FOV what you end up with is a tiny little Krato in the middle of the screen and a bunch of scenery on either side. It also might create gameplay issues, because all of a sudden you can target enemies that were off-screen before (and that might still behave as if they were off-screen).

For 4:3 games I would much rather they crop the top and bottom and stretch the image. It brings you closer to the action and eliminates the filler.

I say...be happy they are even doing this, considering this is the only title to receive such treatment.

You don't like it? Buy the PS2 version.

Don't have a PS2 (or BC) and never played GOW...too bad, so sad. I really believe some of you just like to hear yourselves complain.