KuroReader 2.0 is a free detailed picture settings reader and Web Interface Control Panel for the Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M, KRP-600M, PRO-101FD, and PRO-141FD plasma monitors. It connects to your networked Pioneer Monitor over a LAN, Wireless LAN, or direct Ethernet connection via TCP/IP.

The retrieved settings can be viewed, printed, saved to a file, and copied/pasted into another document, application, or forum. User selectable "" tags can be added to the text to retain formatting* when posting messages to the AVSForum.

Screenshot:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=156497&stc=1&d=1256793558

Version 2.0 - Enhancements:

ISF Gamma - Displays ISF 9 Point RGB gamma settings in a table format. Note that the Kuro's display will go blank (like it does when switching AV modes) twice for about ½ second each while reading ISF Gamma. Also, reading gamma adds 3 or 4 seconds to the standard settings retrieval time. This option can be turned off if desired.
PC Source Picture Settings - Now capable of displaying settings for Component, Analog-RGB, DVI, and HDMI inputs configured as PC (personal computer) or RGB sources. (The previous version disconnected from the display when a PC/RGB source was detected.)
Input Signal - Displays the resolution and refresh rate of the input source.
Input Setup - Displays the current input's signal type and color-decoding/color-space (e.g., "Video/RGB16-235) configuration.
The combined information of Input Signal and Input Setup provides the user with the key parameters necessary to determine the non-ISF memory associated with a given input source (provided that Auto is not selected).
Input Name - Added the input name (Video, Component, DVI, HDMI 1, etc.) to the displayed input number.
Removed the stars from the Model Name and improved other setting descriptions and groupings.
Dynamic forum Code and Table formatting tags - These can now be added and removed before or after the settings are read from the display.
New default Settings page (with blank values).
Kuro Web Control Tabs - New tabbed user interface provides a centralized control panel for direct access to the Kuro's built-in Remote, Picture, ISF, Options, Input, Network, E-Mail, and Service web control pages - without using Internet Explorer, Favorites, or typing URL's. A page Refresh button is available for these tabs. The web control pages will work even when KuroReader is disconnected (as long as the correct IP Address is in the IP textbox).
ISF Web Control Improvements - KuroReader modifies the ISF page behavior to prevent it from closing itself and opening the Remote pop-up window. The behavior of the Exit, Exit Without Save, and All Clear buttons have also been modified to always exit ISF mode cleanly and prevent a user from accidentally erasing all ISF memories. (You can still access the standard ISF interface using Internet Explorer if you want to erase all ISF memories). Note: NA KRP models require the "patch" to use this interface. Also, the built-in ISF interface has limited controls and is best used for tweaking existing ISF memories.
Progress bar - Shows activity when reading settings data from the display.
Exit button - Moved to the top of the form.
ToolTips - Popup help for specific buttons.
Resizable Settings Windows - To display large setting pages and Web Control forms.
System Requirements

Operating System: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
Microsoft .NET 2.0 or higher
Display: Pioneer KRP-500M, KRP-600M, PRO-101FD, and PRO-141FD
A Pioneer monitor properly configured and connected to a LAN or WLAN.
You must know your Monitor's IP Address to use KuroReader
Download (Updated 10/29/2009)
KuroReader is free for home and personal use. It does not contain any Adware, Spyware, or Malware, and no registration or activation keys are required. To download KuroReader, click on the link below and select the Download page from the menu. Basic instructions are provided on the Support page.
>>Download KuroReader (http://www.wix.com/jdbimmer/kuroreader)<<
(Note: The website uses Adobe Flash 10, so please use the IE 32-bit browser in Vista 64 or Win7-64)

*Below is an example of settings pasted from KuroReader with Code Tags enabled:
[code]Pioneer Kuro Settings
Date & Time : 10/25/2009 12:06:23 AM
Model : KRP-500M

Input & Screen
Input : 5 (HDMI 1)
Input Signal: 1080I/60.0
Input Setup : Video/RGB16-235
Screen Size : DOT BY DOT

Picture
AV Selection: ISF-Night
Contrast : 29
Brightness : 1
Color : 5
Tint : 0
Sharpness : -7
Color Temp : Manual
Red High : -5
Green High : 0
Blue High : -2
Red Low : -3
Green Low : 1
Blue Low : 1
Gamma : 3 (ISF 9 Point Gamma in use)

ISF Gamma |1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
Red |-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1
Green |-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1
Blue |-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1


Pure Cinema
Film Mode : Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligent Mode: Off

Picture Detail
DRE Picture : Off
Black Level : Off
ACL : Off
Enhancer Mode: Natural

Color Detail
CTI: Off
Color Management
R (RED) : 0
Y (YELLOW) : -2
G (GREEN) : 0
C (CYAN) : 0
B (BLUE) : 0
M (MAGENTA): 1
Color Space : 2

Noise Reduction
3DNR : Off
Field NR : Off
Block NR : Off
Mosquito NR: Off

Other
3DYC : Middle
IP Mode : 2 (Standard)
Drive Mode : 1 (75Hz)
Game Control : Off
Blue Only Mode: Off

Power & Options
Energy Save Mode : Standard
Room Light Sensor: Off

KuroReader FAQ
Q1. Why would I need or want this software?

A1. There are several possible answers:

To share settings on AVSForum in a standard format that follows the On-screen Picture Menu layout.
The 9G monitors may lose non-ISF settings when you exceed the Picture memory slots available, so it is nice to have them saved to a file with a Date and Time stamp.
There have been some reports of lost ISF settings on some models which is particularily tragic if you paid a Pro and don't know what they are (and you can't see all the ISF settings from the User menu).
You are curious as to what the hidden settings are in Dynamic and Optimum modes.
You want to see what the default settings are for non-ISF modes are without actually resetting them. (The display will return default values when it is in Standby mode).
You are an excessive tweaker and want to save your settings to a file in case you want to go back to them later.
You want to paste the settings into the Calman or HCFR calibration notes or comments box rather than type them manually while you stumble through the Kuro's menu with the remote.
You want a single simplified user interface to all of the Kuro's web control interface pages without using Internet Explorer.
Q2. Can KuroReader harm my Kuro?
A2. KuroReader can not harm your Kuro. It reads settings using the Kuro monitor's built-in IP Control Interface using standard commands provided by Pioneer. KuroReader was extensively tested on my own KRP-500M. In addition, no issues were reported from 3 AVSForum member beta testers.

Q3. How can I get my Kuro monitor connected to my wireless home network?
A3. Inexpensive Ethernet-to-Wireless adaptors and Wireless Bridges are available from most router manufacturers. For more details, see this post below: Connecting Your Monitor to a Wireless Network (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17126290#post17126290)

Q4. How can I connect my Kuro directly to my laptop or PC using an Ethernet cable?
A4. See post #41 - Direct Ethernet Connection (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17449125#post17449125)

Q5. Why are my previous settings still listed on the Reader tab after I pressed the Get Settings button again?
A5. Each time the Get Settings button is pressed, the settings retrieved are appended to the bottom of the current Kuro settings page and can be viewed using the scroll bar. This allows you to gather settings for different AV modes and inputs and save them to one file. If you don't want to append the next settings, you can press the Clear button first to delete the currently listed settings.

Q6. Why does the Kuro disconnect from KuroReader after about 5 minutes?
A6. The Kuro's default timeout setting is 5 minutes. You can change this setting on the Network tab. The timeout can be increased to 20 minutes or turned off completely using the TCP Connection Limit setting.

Q7. Why am I unable to connect to my Kuro using KuroReader, but I can get to the Web Interface using Internet Explorer?
A7. Check your Windows or 3rd party firewall settings to see if they are blocking KuroReader. KuroReader needs to have access to TCP ports 4201 and 80 on your local network.

Q8. How do I create, enable, or adjust ISF Auto, Day, & Night modes using KuroReader?
A8. ISF Tab Instructions (for 101/141, Euro KRP's, and patched NA KRP's only):
1. Select the ISF tab.
2. Select the Input from the drop down list and press the Set button. Do this even if the display is already on that input.
3. Select the ISF Mode (Auto/Day/Night) and press the Set button. (Tip:Try creating Day mode first if you have trouble initializing other modes.) The page should refresh and display your current or the default settings. The display should show the 2 line on-screen ISF information.
4. Change each setting (contrast, brightness, white balance, etc) one at a time and press the Set button next to the setting after each change. Sometimes the web page will not reflect the change, but the monitor will display that change onscreen. Pressing the Refresh button or pressing the Set button next to an unchanged setting should get things back in sync.
5. When you are done with your changes, press the Save Settings button. The Pioneer display will show the "ISF Calibration Completed" message.
6. To exit the Calibration mode, press the "Exit" or "Exit Without Save" button - KuroReader modifies the behavior of these buttons so they both provide the same functionality. The ISF onscreen display should disappear. If it does not, try turning the display off and on again.
More FAQ coming soon...

Reserved

JD - very cool! Though I haven't networked my 141 yet, this software certainly would come in handy once I do!

Thanks! It will also work directly connected to a PC/Laptop via Ethernet, although setting that up is a bit tricky.

BTW, I accidentally deleted the screenshot yesterday - it is back up now. (Unfortunaltely, the Code tagged text does not like to be edited, so I lost my bold formatting on each section..I will add these back tonight).

Can't wait to try this out. Thanks!

-Sean

When can we expect to see a TCP/IP based Kurowriter software? ;)
The actual Web Control System is pretty lame and ControlCalc uses RS-232...

Open source?

sorry, devoted linux user who's used to open source:D

When can we expect to see a TCP/IP based Kurowriter software? ;)
The actual Web Control System is pretty lame and ControlCalc uses RS-232... I may add a few basic selections for Input and AVS mode soon, and maybe some other items here or in a separate application. The first thing on my list right now is to add the Input signal (e.g. resolution/rate, 1080p/60, etc.) to the report.Open source? Sorry, it is not. The license agreement is on my site and displayed during the installation.

Open source?

If you're not* using Windows you can use my script (I normally use a Mac but this works under Linux just fine) which I will include in its entirety below.

#!/bin/sh
printf "\002**$1\003"|nc kuro 4201
printf "\n"

Prettify to taste**.

*This does work with Windows if you install Cygwin but nc doesn't work right there.

**Aye, there's the rub.

Bodosom's script is a good alternative for Linux, and you should grab the Integrators Manual (see Bodosom's FAQ link) if you go that route. I found that both the Linux and Windows NC versions to be more prone to hanging the Kuro's IP interface (requiring shutting the Kuro off with the main power switch), which led me to build KuroReader.
I haven't looked into it in detail, but long term I could port the app to MS Silverlight, extended to Linux via Novell's Moonlight. Ugh, sounds complicated :).

Thanks jdbimmer for providing this software, can't wait to try it out.

sorry, devoted linux user who's used to open source:D I just ran KuroReader successfully on Ubuntu Linux 9.04 using Wine (http://www.winehq.org/) and Winetricks w2k and dotnet2. It ran a bit very slow, but my Ubuntu OS is in a Sun VirtualBox VM, so YMMV. I could not check the printing since I don't have one set up in the OS.

I found that both the Linux and Windows NC versions to be more prone to hanging the Kuro's IP interface

Yeah, I might fix that at some point. It's still below my threshold of pain. However my main point was providing an "open source" alternative. Well maybe alternative isn't quite the right word.

On a completely unrelated note QS4 isn't in the integrator's manual.

On a completely unrelated note QS4 isn't in the integrator's manual. Yeah, not unlike some missing items in the User manual as well. I guess the editor was on vacation.:)

Rather than go into an off-topic discussion on serial vs. IP and netcat, I think that radXge's post was just referring to the inconvenience of connecting directly vs. wireless, which is understandable.

Dealing with the Kuro's network interface did take some some development effort to get it all sorted out, but the design works well. Creating the icon for KuroReader - now that was a challenge and it still needs some color or something..:)

I think that radXge's post was just referring to the inconvenience of connecting directly vs. wireless, which is understandable.

I shouldn' try to think when I'm distracted.

Anyway, does your response

I may add a few basic selections for Input and AVS mode soon, and maybe some other items here or in a separate application.

imply a KuroReaderWriter?

Hi,

I know this is a long shot but is there any way that there is a version for European models of this?


Bazzy!

Hi,

I know this is a long shot but is there any way that there is a version for European models of this?


Bazzy! KuroReader should work with the EUR KRP-500M and 600M displays. The EUR 500A/600A and LX5090/6090 will not work as they do not have the IP Control interface.

KuroReader should work with the EUR KRP-500M and 600M displays. As far as I know, the 500A/600A and LX5090/6090 will not work since they do not have the IP Control interface.

Hi!

Thank you kindly for the help! I find myself at a quandary then as I have a "H"model of the 5090. The 5090H differs considerably from a standard 5090 & is almost entirely identical to the KRP-500A in terms of features. operation & functions. The only feature difference is that it lacks the "Pure Mode" of the KRP-500A & physically it is an integrated version therefore not so slim & no external media unit. The KRP's do have a different screen (purportedly with some of the G10 Kuro Tech applied) and all my research to date seems to indicate that the 5090H also has the same screen as the KRP's but I may be wrong - hopefully someone here maybe able to shed more light?

In my case, do you think this software will still work then? I know Pioneer have very clearly stated that under no circumstances update a 5090H with standard 5090 firmware updates if that helps?


Bazzy!

Anyway, does your reponse imply a KuroReaderWriter? Not yet, and only if it would be useful. At this point I think I might favor the remote for detailed adjustment tasks.

Hi!

Thank you kindly for the help! I find myself at a quandary then as I have a "H"model of the 5090..
In my case, do you think this software will still work then?

Bazzy!Unfortunately, it won't work with the LX5090H. That model's ethernet port is used for the Home Media Gallery and does not provide an IP control interface.

Not yet, and only if it would be useful. At this point I think I might favor the remote for detailed adjustment tasks.

After I pulled all the codes from the integrators document I decided to rewrite the script in Perl. I haven't done enough testing to see if it still breaks the Kuro network stack but if not I was going to put together a dump/restore widget. Which is the long way of saying I think there's some use but not for adjustment (that would be the someday IP version of ControlCAL).

Of course there's no value in a screen based display for such a utility and it's not clear that anyone but me wants to take regular snapshots of all their settings so I suppose I shouldn't suggest you look in that direction.

Have you tried running my app in Mac Parallels? It would expect it to work since it supports .NET. That would be easier, but maybe not as fun for you as writing your own Perl script (which probably deserves it's own thread if you make some progress).

Have you tried running my app in Mac Parallels? It would expect it to work since it supports .NET.

Yes, it works just fine.

Many of us do not have a wired Ethernet connection in reach of our Pioneer monitors, and these displays do not have built-in wireless support. However, there are several inexpensive solutions available from networking product manufacturers that will allow you to connect your display to a wireless network:

1. A simple solution is a wireless "gaming" type adapter or multifunction device that provides a non-WDS Ethernet-to-Wireless adapter mode. Of these, the most promising and inexpensive solution that I have seen is the Asus 330gE (http://usa.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=9H8EmdWucHDpYOb8). In Ethernet Adapter mode, this small device provides wireless connectivity to your existing wireless network and one Ethernet port to connect to your Kuro. The advantages are its small size and easy configuration. The disadvantage is that it does not have additional Ethernet ports for other devices (e.g., your Blu-Ray player or AV Receiver) .

2. A more complex solution is any router that supports a WDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System) (Wireless Distribution System) bridge mode added to your WDS-compatible wireless network. The Kuro would be connected via wired Ethernet to the WDS router/bridge, and the router/bridge connects to your existing wireless network. The advantage of this configuration is that many of these devices have multiple ports available for connecting other ethernet devices to your wireless network. The disadvantages are that not all WDS compatible routers work well with other manufacturer's WDS routers and configuration can be challenging.

3. Simple, but generally more expensive quasi-wireless solutions, are the various flavors of powerline Ethernet. These devices plug into the AC outlets in your home and use your home's electrical wiring to connect devices to your router. One device is required near your Kuro and one next to your router. Network performance is dependent on the age, condition, and configuration of your home wiring.

Thanks for the great software. It's helped me keep track of all of my ISF settings on my 500M.

Thanks for the great software. It's helped me keep track of all of my ISF settings on my 500M. You're welcome! I am glad you found it useful. :)

Thanks for your effort!!!

Many of us do not have a wired Ethernet connection in reach of our Pioneer monitors, and these displays do not have built-in wireless support. However, there are several inexpensive solutions available from networking product manufacturers that will allow you to connect your display to a wireless network:

1. A simple solution is a wireless "gaming" type adapter or multifunction device that provides a non-WDS Ethernet-to-Wireless adapter mode. Of these, the most promising and inexpensive solution that I have seen is the Asus 330gE (http://usa.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=9H8EmdWucHDpYOb8). In Ethernet Adapter mode, this small device provides wireless connectivity to your existing wireless network and one Ethernet port to connect to your Kuro. The advantages are its small size and easy configuration. The disadvantage is that it does not have additional Ethernet ports for other devices (e.g., your Blu-Ray player or AV Receiver) .

2. A more complex solution is any router that supports a WDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System) (Wireless Distribution System) bridge mode added to your WDS-compatible wireless network. The Kuro would be connected via wired Ethernet to the WDS router/bridge, and the router/bridge connects to your existing wireless network. The advantage of this configuration is that many of these devices have multiple ports available for connecting other ethernet devices to your wireless network. The disadvantages are that not all WDS compatible routers work well with other manufacturer's WDS routers and configuration can be challenging.

3. Simple, but generally more expensive quasi-wireless solutions, are the various flavors of powerline Ethernet. These devices plug into the AC outlets in your home and use your home's electrical wiring to connect devices to your router. One device is required near your Kuro and one next to your router. Network performance is dependent on the age, condition, and configuration of your home wiring.

I can attest that the ASUS 330ge really works great. I got one for an upstairs bedroom TV that has no Cat5, but I've tested it with all my ethernet devices including my 500m and it really works well. Very versitile too, can be used as an AP, Wireless adapter and repeater. If it was Draft N, I would buy 2 or 3 more of these.

Thanks to JDBIMMER for this very useful application, not to mention all of his equally useful information and advice.

Thanks for your effort!!!

I can attest that the ASUS 330ge really works great. I got one for an upstairs bedroom TV that has no Cat5, but I've tested it with all my ethernet devices including my 500m and it really works well. Very versitile too, can be used as an AP, Wireless adapter and repeater. If it was Draft N, I would buy 2 or 3 more of these.

Thanks to JDBIMMER for this very useful application, not to mention all of his equally useful information and advice.
You are both welcome!
dmichael - Thanks for the providing your positive feedback on your first-hand experience with the Asus 330gE - I think that will be helpful to a lot of people trying add wireless networking to their Kuros.

10/29/2009
KuroReader Version 2.0 is now available. The first post in this thread contains information about this update.

-JDBimmer

10/29/2009
KuroReader Version 2.0 is now available.

You haz been busy.

Very nice.

You haz been busy.

Very nice.
Thanks:).

Fantastic Job JD! Thanks for your efforts! :):D:)

Donation is in the cloud (instead of checks in the mail) and I encrouage all users to donate to this worthy app.

[QUOTE=jdbimmer;17100604]Thanks! It will also work directly connected to a PC/Laptop via Ethernet, although setting that up is a bit tricky.QUOTE]

Hi Jdbimmer,
Can you explain more about the setting if I connect the Kuro directly to the Laptop via Ethernet. Thanks.

v2.0 Rocks!
This is a great piece of software! Very handy.

Thanks for all your efforts to get this out to us.

Donation made. (All who use should contribute!)

:D

shane

Is using this as easy as connecting my laptop via ethernet cable directly to my KRP-500M and then running the program? LOL, didn't even know the 500M had an ethernet connector. Oh, I see someone above says yes. Can you explain what you mean by setting it up is tricky, as also asked above. Thanks in advance.

Is using this as easy as connecting my laptop via ethernet cable directly to my KRP-500M and then running the program? LOL, didn't even know the 500M had an ethernet connector.

I have my 600m hard-wired (cable) to my network, and it read it immediately (as did my SC-07). Mine is through a hub -> router -> computer. Can't say that a direct connection to the laptop will work. (I'm no network genious and am glad mine just... worked).

I'm at work, so I can't be specific, but in the 500m's menu you'll find it's IP address. Just enter that into the KuroReader software and hit 'connect'.

good luck.

shane

Fantastic Job JD! Thanks for your efforts! :):D:)

Donation is in the cloud (instead of checks in the mail) and I encrouage all users to donate to this worthy app.

v2.0 Rocks!
This is a great piece of software! Very handy.

Thanks for all your efforts to get this out to us.

Donation made. (All who use should contribute!)

:D

shaneI am glad you both like it. And thanks for the donations!:)

Jdbimmer,
Can you explain more about the setting if I connect the Kuro directly to the Laptop via Ethernet. Thanks.

Is using this as easy as connecting my laptop via ethernet cable directly to my KRP-500M and then running the program? LOL, didn't even know the 500M had an ethernet connector. Oh, I see someone above says yes. Can you explain what you mean by setting it up is tricky, as also asked above. Thanks in advance.

It's tricky because there are a lot of variables and one incorrect setting means that you won't be able to connect at all.

I put this together quickly, I will edit it later if I find any mistakes:

Requirements:
1. A KRP or Elite Monitor (obviously:))
2. A laptop or desktop PC with an Ethernet port that supports Auto-xover (aka Auto MDI/MDI-X, etc.)
Or
An Ethernet crossover cable (http://www.google.com/products?q=Ethernet+crossover+cable&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=4mTrSvbhEYbWlAfWwbjTBQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDQQrQQwAw).

Configuration
You will need to manually configure the Kuro’s LAN settings (via remote) and the laptop/PC Network Settings to use different IP Addresses using the same subnet and mask. DHCP must be disabled on the Kuro and the laptop/PC. The IP addresses shown below are examples that work, but you can substitute your own if you prefer as long as you use the same subnet (xxx.xxx.xxx).

Method 1:
Kuro Configuration:
1. Using the remote, Select Home Menu->Control Setup.
2. Select and set IP Control to Enable
3. Select and set DHCP to Off
4. Select and set the IP Address to 192.168.123.200
5. Select and set the Subnet Mask to 255.255.255.000 (default)
6. Select and set the Default Gateway to 192.168.123.200 (The Kuro's Gateway adress should not matter, but the subnet should be the same, so I set it to the same IP as shown in step 4 to keep things simple).

Laptop/PC Configuration:
You have to manually configure your PC's network settings. It is probably set to use DHCP for your home network. To change it in XP (and similarly in Vista and other Windows versions):
1. Open the Windows Control Panel.
2. Open Network Connections
3. Right-click the network connection you want to configure, and then click Properties.
4. On the General tab , click the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) component, and then click Properties.
5. Click Use the following IP address, and enter the following:
a) 192.168.123.201 in IP address
b) 255.255.255.0 in Subnet mask
c) leave everything else blank or whatever the default is.

Warning: Once you do this, your laptop may not be able to connect to your home network anymore, so copy your old settings down so you can revert back to the way it was later. Most likely all you will need to do is go back and enable DHCP on in your PC’s network settings again.

Method 2:
JonW747 has a good idea using the auto-assigned subnet that Windows uses when it can not find a DHCP server. See JonW747's post below with additional details in my post below that. This method does not require any manual changes to your laptop's Network Properties - assuming that it is set up with DHCP enabled (windows default).

Method 3:
Use an ethernet hub or switch and 2 ethernet cables. This method can be used if your laptop/PC does not support Auto-crossover.
1. Connect the laptop to one of the hub's LAN ports using one of the ethernet cables.
2. Connect the Kuro to another LAN port on the hub using the other cable.
3. Configure the IP Addresses on the laptop and Kuro using method 1 or 2 above.

You can also leave DHCP enabled on your laptop and after a minute or so it will give up trying to assign an IP and just auto assign an IP address in the 169.254.x.x private range. If you assign the TV an IP address of say 169.254.1.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 you should be able to access it with your laptop.

You can also leave DHCP enabled on your laptop and after a minute or so it will give up trying to assign an IP and just auto assign an IP address in the 192.168.x.x private range. If you assign the TV an IP address of say 192.168.0.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 you should be able to access it with your laptop.Yes, Windows will assign an IP address and subnet when DHCP fails, but not in the 192.168.x.x range. Rather, it will assign an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range (Link:MS KB Article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874)). In that case you could use your method to configure the Kuro IP as 169.254.x.x (as long as "x.x" or ".x" is different than the IP assigned to the PC) with a Kuro subnet of 255.255.000.000.

Yes, Windows will assign an IP address and subnet when DHCP fails, but not in the 192.168.x.x range. Rather, it will assign an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range (Link:MS KB Article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874)). In that case you could use your method to configure the Kuro IP as 169.254.x.x (as long as "x.x" or ".x" is different than the IP assigned to the PC) with a Kuro subnet of 255.255.000.000.

Nice catch. You're 100% right.

Nice catch. You're 100% right.Your idea is still a good one. I will include it (with the corrected subnet) as an alternate method in the post #41 and FAQ.
Edit: Added to the FAQ.

This is great. Thanks.
Donation in.
:D

This is great. Thanks.
Donation in.
:DThank you!:)

Thank you!:)

Great software, thanks.

Does anyone know what "Operation Record" mean in the Service Info tab? There are 5 rows, 1st through 5th, and I am wondering what the number of hours mean. For example, I see

5th : Input 5 000144H 31M.

Does that mean there has been an input 5 signal for 144 hours and 31 minutes? Thanks.

Great software, thanks.

Does anyone know what "Operation Record" mean in the Service Info tab? There are 5 rows, 1st through 5th, and I am wondering what the number of hours mean. For example, I see

5th : Input 5 000144H 31M.

Does that mean there has been an input 5 signal for 144 hours and 31 minutes? Thanks. I'm glad you like the software!

The Operation Record shows your total hours at the last On/Off cycle and how long it was on during that cycle. In your example, your set has 144 total hours and it has been on for 31 minutes during the last on/off cycle.

I'm glad you like the software!

The Operation Record shows your total hours at the last On/Off cycle and how long it was on during that cycle. In your example, your set has 144 total hours and it has been on for 31 minutes during the last on/off cycle.

How's that total hours different than Usage Time? My Usage Time shows 162 hours, but my last Input 5 line shows only 144 hours. Thanks.

How's that total hours different than Usage Time? My Usage Time shows 162 hours, but my last Input 5 line shows only 144 hours. Thanks. I'm not sure why they would be different unless you have had it on for 18 hours straight.? Mine shows Usage at 784 and line 5 shows 783H and 36M.

I watched the video available of this in action and noticed it said down the bottom right to use a null modem cable...does this mean I can connect this up to my Kuro via the RS232 port? I have a serial card also installed on my HTCP sitting underneath.

I watched the video available of this in action and noticed it said down the bottom right to use a null modem cable...does this mean I can connect this up to my Kuro via the RS232 port? I have a serial card also installed on my HTCP sitting underneath. I believe you are referring to ControlCal (http://www.controlcal.com/) which uses the RS232 port for calibrating the display. KuroReader will not work with your C509 since its ethernet port is used only for media and it does not have the required IP Control Interface.

I believe you are referring to ControlCal (http://www.controlcal.com/) which uses the RS232 port for calibrating the display. KuroReader will not work with your C509 since its ethernet port is used only for media and it does not have the required IP Control Interface.

Thanks for the reply jdbimmer,
My C509 does not have a ethernet port either, it has a USB on the side and a 9-pin serial port on the back. Both state "Service Only". My Kuro does not have the media player capability either.

I'm not sure why they would be different unless you have had it on for 18 hours straight.? Mine shows Usage at 784 and line 5 shows 783H and 36M.

Now they are the same. Don't know why they were different before, but thanks.

Hi jdbimmer...i just downloaded your software and it worked beautifully. Very easy to install and navigate through. Thank you very much for all your efforts. I had a quick question and i hope someone here maybe able to help me out. I currently have 151 hours on my KRP-500. Is that the minimum amount of hours required before a professional calibration is done? Or should i wait until i hit a higher number of hours (i.e. 200, 300)

Thank you all for your feedback.

Hi jdbimmer...i just downloaded your software and it worked beautifully. Very easy to install and navigate through. Thank you very much for all your efforts. I had a quick question and i hope someone here maybe able to help me out. I currently have 151 hours on my KRP-500. Is that the minimum amount of hours required before a professional calibration is done? Or should i wait until i hit a higher number of hours (i.e. 200, 300)

Thank you all for your feedback.The answer you get may vary depending on who you ask, but over 150+ hours should be fine. If you can wait until 200 hours that might be slightly better, per this article: http://avical.com/articles/avical-pioneer-elite-kuro-pro-111fd-break-in-report.html. And you will probably have added to your total usage by the time someone actually gets there.

If you haven't already added the ISF patch (http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363), you should consider it before getting it calibrated. Some calibrators may install it as part of the service. Check the list at http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363 and at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14485449#post14485449 for more information. Not that I should play favorites:), but D-Nice is very well regarded and often frequents the KRP thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1162100). If your lucky, he might have a tour in your area soon.

The answer you get may vary depending on who you ask, but over 150+ hours should be fine. If you can wait until 200 hours that might be slightly better, per this article: http://avical.com/articles/avical-pioneer-elite-kuro-pro-111fd-break-in-report.html. And you will probably have added to your total usage by the time someone actually gets there.

If you haven't already added the ISF patch (http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363), you should consider it before getting it calibrated. Some calibrators may install it as part of the service. Check the list at http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363 and at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14485449#post14485449 for more information. Not that I should play favorites:), but D-Nice is very well regarded and often frequents the KRP thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1162100). If your lucky, he might have a tour in your area soon.

Thank you very much jdbimmer. I really appreciate your input on this topic. I'm looking forward to getting my KRP calibrated, and thanks to your awesome software, i can manage my hours more accurately. :)

do we need isf patch for pro 151s too?

Will this work for my PDP-LX5090H too?
thnx,
Bart

do we need isf patch for pro 151s too?No, it's only required to enable ISF for US KRP-M's.

Will this work for my PDP-LX5090H too?
thnx,
BartNo:(. KuroReader requires Pioneer's IP Control Interface and the 5090H only has the RS232 interface.

Can't wait to try this out. Is this app strictly a reader as the name implies, or can you change settings on the tv using this? Just want to make sure so that I don't do anything dumb like overwrite my isf settings.

Can't wait to try this out. Is this app strictly a reader as the name implies, or can you change settings on the tv using this? Just want to make sure so that I don't do anything dumb like overwrite my isf settings.The Reader and Service Info tabs will only read data from the display. The other tabs connect to the Kuro's built-in Web Control Interface and do allow changes to settings. Some of these are shown in the User manual starting on page 69. These web pages can be accessed using Internet Explorer, but I placed them in KuroReader for convenience and to control (and hopefully improve;)) some of the interface's annoying behavior in the browser.

The Reader and Service Info tabs will only read data from the display. The other tabs connect to the Kuro's built-in Web Control Interface and do allow changes to settings. Some of these are shown in the User manual starting on page 69. These web pages can be accessed using Internet Explorer, but I placed them in KuroReader for convenience and to control (and hopefully improve;)) some of the interface's annoying behavior in the browser.

Great!!! Thank you.

jbimmer,

I'm getting my panel today and for now would like to "open up" the ISF modes for the brighter picture.

I'm not very good at networking, etc but do have a network cable in the living room for my Egreat NMT player. (From wireless/wired router in office)

If I plug it in to the 101, will it show up on the network (My network places)?

Can I access it from a laptop that is connected to my wireless network?

Appreciate any guidance for an older guy here :)

thx

bob

I'm not very good at networking, etc but do have a network cable in the living room for my Egreat NMT player. (From wireless/wired router in office)

If I plug it in to the 101, will it show up on the network (My network places)?First you need to enable IP Control in the Control Setup menu on the 101 (Page 64/Sec 6.8.1 in the 101FD user manual). Most likely your network uses DHCP, so you would also set the 101's DHCP "On" - the setting is right below the IP Control setting in Control Setup menu. The rest of the items on that screen should be left at their defaults when using DHCP.
Can I access it from a laptop that is connected to my wireless network?Yes.

First you need to enable IP Control in the Control Setup menu on the 101 (Page 64/Sec 6.8.1 in the 101FD user manual). Most likely your network uses DHCP, so you would also set the 101's DHCP "On" - the setting is right below the IP Control setting in Control Setup menu. The rest of the items on that screen should be left at their defaults when using DHCP.
Yes.

Thanks!

Will try after break in.


bob

Maybe I'm stupid, but after setting the ISF modes, and seeing them listed as "yes" for my chosen input, I still can't access them. Or perhaps ControlCal is still required to fully access these modes?

Maybe I'm stupid, but after setting the ISF modes, and seeing them listed as "yes" for my chosen input, I still can't access them. Or perhaps ControlCal is still required to fully access these modes?Turn the Kuro off and back on and see if they are there. If not, try creating ISF day first.

Did so, no joy. Any other suggestions?

It's a cool program nonetheless. Well done!

Did so, no joy. Any other suggestions?

It's a cool program nonetheless. Well done!Other 101/141 owners have reported success, so you may just be missing a step or the running into some of the display's quirks. First, make sure the display is receiving a video signal on the input when you adjust and save the ISFccc mode. Also, make sure you press the Save button and then the Exit button after making your adjustments, then power off/on.

I ran into a similar issue trying to enable ISF Night on my 500M during testing - I ended up getting either ISF Auto or Day activated first and then was able to activate ISF Night. I am not sure exactly what got it working other than persistance.
If you don't make any progress, you may want to consider purchasing ControlCal which has the benefit of additional picture controls (those you can see in the Pro Adjust menu in non-ISF mode) for a reasonable price.

Other 101/141 owners have reported success, so you may just be missing a step or the running into some of the display's quirks. First, make sure the display is receiving a video signal on the input when you adjust and save the ISFccc mode. Also, make sure you press the Save button and then the Exit button after making your adjustments, then power off/on.

I ran into a similar issue trying to enable ISF Night on my 500M during testing - I ended up getting either ISF Auto or Day activated first and then was able to activate ISF Night. I am not sure exactly what got it working other than persistance.
If you don't make any progress, you may want to consider purchasing ControlCal which has the benefit of addition picture controls for a reasonable price.

We can't change picture settings w/ KuroReader? I thought everything but gamma??

bob

We can't change picture settings w/ KuroReader? I thought everything but gamma??

bobYou can access the built-in Pioneer ISF settings page* with KuroReader or Internet Explorer (by bypassing the password page) to adjust the following picture controls:
Contrast
Brightness
Color
Tint
Sharpness
Color Temp: (Low, Mid Low, Mid, Mid Hi, Hi, Manual)
Color Temp Manual:
Red High
Green High
Blue High
Red Low
Green Low
Blue Low

You can't access additional ISFccc mode settings:
ISF RGB Point Gamma 1-9
Film Mode
Text Optimization
Intelligent Mode
DRE Picture
Black Level
ACL
Enhancer Mode
CTI
Color Management
R (RED)
Y (YELLOW)
G (GREEN)
C (CYAN)
B (BLUE)
M (MAGENTA)
Color Space
3DNR
Field NR
Block NR
Mosquito NR
3DYC
IP Mode
Zoom (default)

Most importantly is the lack of a Color Space control in the Pioneer ISF page since I believe it defaults to 1, and CS2 is the preferred (accurate) mode. All of the Picture controls listed above are available in ControlCal.

*I didn't write the page, Pioneer did, I just made it work better:)

Thanks, JD

Started break in at 4:00 PM today :) (PRO-101)


bob

I'm off to Fry's to get a 25' network cable to try KuroReader into my router?

Does it matter what type? Crossover, etc?

thx

bob

I'm off to Fry's to get a 25' network cable to try KuroReader into my router?

Does it matter what type? Crossover, etc?

thx

bobYou need a standard ethernet cable to connect the 101FD to your router. The crossover ethernet cables are required only for direct PC-Kuro ethernet connections, if the PC does not support Auto-Xover.

You need a standard ethernet cable to connect the 101FD to your router. The crossover ethernet cables are required only for direct PC-Kuro ethernet connections, if the PC does not support Auto-Xover.

Thanks!

Off I go!


bob

OK,JD

It's plugged in to the router.

Should it show up in Network Places (Vista 32)?

IP Control is enabled

DHCP is On.

Been about 5 minutes and nothing.

Reboot PC?


update: Even tho the Kuro never showed up in network places, I was able to access it w/ the laptop and actually activate ISF DAY and save a few settings. I changed DVD's (not inputs) and now I can't get back in:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24281297@N04/4339184192/sizes/o/

My Kuro's IP is 192.168.001.001 which I entered into the Kuro IP address but now it's a no go.


thx

bob

Should it show up in Network Places (Vista 32)?
No, it won't show up there.

update: Even tho the Kuro never showed up in network places, I was able to access it w/ the laptop and actually activate ISF DAY and save a few settings. I changed DVD's (not inputs) and now I can't get back in:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24281297@N04/4339184192/sizes/o/
192.168.001.001 sounds like your router's (typical) IP Address, are you sure that's right?

Although I haven't seen it occur using KuroReader, sometimes the Kuro's network stack hangs. To resolve, turn off the main power switch in the Pioneer (the big one on the lower left underside when facing the display), wait about 20 seconds and turn it back on.

BTW, if you are not sure what the Pioneer's IP Address is when using DHCP, it should appear in the Control menu.

192.168.001.001 sounds like your router's (typical) IP Address, are you sure that's right?

Although I haven't seen it occur using KuroReader, sometimes the Kuro's network stack hangs. To resolve, turn off the main power switch in the Pioneer (the big one on the lower left underside when facing the display), wait about 20 seconds and turn it back on.

JD,

I checked again and the Kuro IP is that with or without the cable plugged in.

Control setup/ IP address.

I'll try the power switch, too


thx


bob

BTW, if you are not sure what the Pioneer's IP Address is when using DHCP, it should appear in the Control menu.

It doesn't appear until I click IP address. Then it brings up a small data window.



bob

It doesn't appear until I click IP address.

That's correct. The IP address, subnet mask, default gateway and mac address are displayed when you select them.

That's correct. The IP address, subnet mask, default gateway and mac address are displayed when you select them.

OK,

BTW,my router is 192.168.1.1

The network cable is temporarily being used to check out my netwrk media player while I'm breaking in th 101 in a spare bedroom.


bob

OK,

BTW,my router is 192.168.1.1

The network cable is temporarily being used to check out my netwrk media player while I'm breaking in th 101 in a spare bedroom.


bobOk. Just to be clear, 192.168.1.1 is the same as 192.168.001.001, just different notation.

Ok. Just to be clear, 192.168.1.1 is the same as 192.168.001.001, just different notation.

I did not know that :)

So, am I looking in the wrong place?

What should the Kuro IP be, then?

thx


bob

I did not know that :)

So, am I looking in the wrong place?

What should the Kuro IP be, then? No, I think you are looking at the only place it shows the IP.

Once you hook it back up to the cable, go back and check it in the Control menu again by selecting IP Address. There are some home routers that use a different default than 1 in the last octet (xxx.xxx.xxx.1), so it's certainly possible that yours is configured differently and 192.168.1.1 is available in the DHCP pool. And you were able to connect to it and create ISF Day before, so maybe you just need to verify it again.

No, I think you are looking at the only place it shows the IP.

Once you hook it back up to the cable, go back and check it in the Control menu again by selecting IP Address. There are some home routers that use a different default than 1 in the last octet (xxx.xxx.xxx.1), so it's certainly possible that yours is configured differently and 192.168.1.1 is available in the DHCP pool. And you were able to connect to it and create ISF Day before, so maybe you just need to verify it again.

Will do but I can assure you that192.168.1.1 is the only way I have ever got to the router menu, etc.

Also, when I run ipconfig it always shows up as the default gateway.

bob

^In that case the Pioneer has to be something other than 192.168.1.1. Which kind of makes sense since the message you got from KuroReader was "target machine..actively refused" which would be the response you would get from a PC or router for port 4201.

^In that case the Pioneer has to be something other than 192.168.1.1. Which kind of makes sense since the message you got from KuroReader was "target machine..actively refused" which would be the response you would get from a PC or router for port 4201.

Just plugged the net cable back in. Same IP.

I'll try to power off the main power switch tomorrow.

BTW, I just remembered that I plugged the Pio directly in to my laptop before I went to buy the long net cable. Could that have caused the wrong IP?

Good night!


bob

Just plugged the net cable back in. Same IP.

I'll try to power off the main power switch tomorrow.

BTW, I just remembered that I plugged the Pio directly in to my laptop before I went to buy the long net cable. Could that have caused the wrong IP?

Good night!


bob

If you plug the Ethernet cable directly into your laptop from the TV you need to have a direct connect Ethernet cable. That type of cable has to have these color combos..

1)white green
2)green
3)white orange
4)blue
5)white blue
6)orange
7)white brown
8)brown

1)white orange
2)orange
3)white green
4) blue
5)white blue
6)green
7) white brown
8) brown

On a standard cable (one that would go from a device to a router or a switch) both ends will have the same pin-out.

Just plugged the net cable back in. Same IP.

I'll try to power off the main power switch tomorrow.Good idea. And check that DHCP in still "On" in the Pioneer's Control menu, then wait a few minutes after you power off/on before checking the Pioneer's IP Address - DHCP takes a little time to request and assign an IP.

BTW, I just remembered that I plugged the Pio directly in to my laptop before I went to buy the long net cable. Could that have caused the wrong IP?Not if DHCP was enabled. In that case you would get a private IP Address (assuming that your laptop supports Auto-Xover). See Method #2 in Post #41 of this thread.

Good idea. And check that DHCP in still "On" in the Pioneer's Control menu, then wait a few minutes after you power off/on before checking the Pioneer's IP Address - DHCP takes a little time to request and assign an IP.

Not if DHCP was enabled. In that case you would get a private IP Address (assuming that your laptop supports Auto-Xover). See Method #2 in Post #41 of this thread.

Good news!

Powered off/on; Now I'm192.168.1.5


Thanks!


bob

I can't get it to connect and I have the right IP address for sure...

Is there anything special that needs to be done? My tv is not ISF calibrated yet so none of those modes are unlocked.

-Evangelo2

I can't get it to connect and I have the right IP address for sure...

Is there anything special that needs to be done? My tv is not ISF calibrated yet so none of those modes are unlocked.

-Evangelo2it won't work with a 151

This Sw is really great! Nice job!!

Maybe you can help me with this. I have a HTPC on my 500M. My idea was that after a wake-up of the PC to send out a command on the LAN to switch on the 500M.

Would that be possible with a single html command?

My idea was that after a wake-up of the PC to send out a command on the LAN to switch on the 500M.

If you can call another program from your HTPC application a batch script using netcat might work. Something like:
type <file with PON string> | nc <Kuro IP address>

Alternatively you could use WSH or make the jump to ActivePerl (or something similar).

Thanks for your answer!

Would be no problem to launch a script on my HTPC. I can easily insert all action on start-up / Wake-up with Eventghost.

How would the Power-on Skript need to look like?

How would the Power-on Skript need to look like?

The example above, using netcat, is close to a .bat file (i.e. it might work). That's the limit of my Windows skill-set.

Apologies in advance for the semi-wasted bandwith, I am desperately looking for a reasonably priced NIB KRP-500M and posting on a couple of pertinent threads...... yeah BB has the 101FDs on sale but they are still $1k out of my reach. :o

Please PM me if you have a lead, ty!

Gman

[QUOTE=jdbimmer;17126290]

1. A simple solution is a wireless "gaming" type adapter or multifunction device that provides a non-WDS Ethernet-to-Wireless adapter mode. Of these, the most promising and inexpensive solution that I have seen is the Asus 330gE (http://usa.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=9H8EmdWucHDpYOb8). In Ethernet Adapter mode, this small device provides wireless connectivity to your existing wireless network and one Ethernet port to connect to your Kuro. The advantages are its small size and easy configuration. The disadvantage is that it does not have additional Ethernet ports for other devices (e.g., your Blu-Ray player or AV Receiver) .

I am trying this method to get my KURO on the home network but I am not able to connect my browser to my monitor. The KURO is getting a valid IP address.

1. A simple solution is a wireless "gaming" type adapter or multifunction device that provides a non-WDS Ethernet-to-Wireless adapter mode. Of these, the most promising and inexpensive solution that I have seen is the Asus 330gE (http://usa.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=9H8EmdWucHDpYOb8).
I am trying this method to get my KURO on the home network but I am not able to connect my browser to my monitor. The KURO is getting a valid IP address.Can you provide some more information on how you configured the 330gE and the Pioneer?

The first thing you need to do is connect the 330gE to an ethernet port of a PC, access it using the Asus utility or via 198.168.1.220 from a browser, and select the Ethernet Adapter mode tab. From that tab you need to connect to your wireless network and enter any security password required for WEP, etc. If everything is setup correctly, you should be able to access your wireless network (internet etc) from that PC. Once you confirm that the 330gE works on your PC, connect it to your Pioneer, enable IP Control and DHCP, wait for it to obtain an IP address, and try to connect to that address using KuroReader or IE.

WTF? I tried enabling the ISF modes and now my set is stuck on Pure and it's greyed out. I'm unable to move to other picture settings.

Okay, false alarm---I think I was unable to change picture modes only because I didn't have any input into the panel, so things were grayed out?

I mistakenly went into this thinking I could get the whole ISF thing set up, but this is pretty useless for that because it won't let you adjust anything under the Pro Adjust menu, correct?

... I mistakenly went into this thinking I could get the whole ISF thing set up ...

Perhaps you want KuroControl.