Dune HD Base 3.0 and Prime 3.0 on Sigma 8642 in Q4 2009 [Text View] - Page 9

Opentoe

03-25-10, 11:55 PM

Any idea if this will still work with the new batches of Dune Bases with Sigma 8643 chip instead of the 8642. I plan on buying an external BD-rom and the Dune base shortly, and would really like to know if this will still work with the new 8643.

Someone mentioned that the 8643 limits playback of encrypted items, so I thought it might cripple this function.

I'm so use to having AnyDVD loaded and always there, that's all you'll need for seamless playback from any type DVD/BD commercial or not. I can give it a test and see what happens. I'll edit back and let ya know.

AnyDVD needs to be loaded on the computer you are sharing the BD with. So you can have a Dune base and watch BD through your network via your computer player. I've done it several times, and it's worked great. Of course with all attention given to AnyDVD.

bob13654

03-26-10, 06:49 AM

The "big guys" suck at customer service. Duneplayer.com does not.
You can't call the "big guys" and expect any kind of correct answers to technical questions. You can call Duneplayer and get answers.

In fact, I would say that all the dune distributors are much more helpful than any of the "big guys". Sometimes buying from the smaller knowledgeable people is much smarter.

Calm down a little bit. You seem agitated about my use of the term "big guys", as noted by your constant quotation of the phrase. I don't necessarily disagree about smaller businesses and better service. However, when dealing with the internet in particular, there are so many scams you don't always know who you can trust. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

aiden_is

03-26-10, 10:54 AM

Calm down a little bit. You seem agitated about my use of the term "big guys", as noted by your constant quotation of the phrase. I don't necessarily disagree about smaller businesses and better service. However, when dealing with the internet in particular, there are so many scams you don't always know who you can trust. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

I'm agitated at the assumption that a bigger national company is safer than a smaller one. It has nothing to do with you personally or your use of the phrase. Duneplayer.com, mediastore, etc, have been posted heavily on in these forums, so doubting their reputability seems dubious to me unless you haven't done a lot of digging.

ThomasG.

03-26-10, 12:24 PM

GotHDTV?

03-26-10, 01:56 PM

Looks like digitalconnection.com (where I bought my from) still has Primes available, but not the Bases. Probably the loud drives are hurting the sales of the prime.

bob13654

03-26-10, 04:26 PM

I'm agitated at the assumption that a bigger national company is safer than a smaller one. It has nothing to do with you personally or your use of the phrase. Duneplayer.com, mediastore, etc, have been posted heavily on in these forums, so doubting their reputability seems dubious to me unless you haven't done a lot of digging.

Fair enough, but I haven't read this whole thread to know that these sites are popular with this crowd. That is why I started my post with "Kind of a long thread". I already agreed, the smaller, boutique type shops are better at customer service and much more knowledgeable than someone just earning a paycheck at Best Buy or Amazon. That is without question, but this is the internet and, frankly, for every reputable site, there are many more that are there to screw you. And for the record, I never doubted anyone's credibility, I asked if anyone knew if they were reputable. If I were to say by a Dune from bob13654.com and you asked if someone knew them, is that doubting their credibility? I would say, No.

aiden_is

03-26-10, 04:45 PM

I understand. I also get that this is yet another product of China, so that concern is even more relevant. FWIW, I believe dunplayer.com actually does warranty repairs stateside, instead of shipping back to China. You might ask around to see if that is the case with the others if you go another direction.

Fair enough, but I haven't read this whole thread to know that these sites are popular with this crowd. That is why I started my post with "Kind of a long thread".

Just throwing a general question out there: At what point does a thread stop becoming useful because of its length? 30 pages? 60?

aiden_is

03-26-10, 04:46 PM

Not necessarily true. Just remember some big players being no longer in the market.

LOL... yes, glad I no longer work at Circuit City.

ChrisMilne

03-26-10, 06:08 PM

I haven't seen anyone complain of a lipsync bug on here, but there's a large thread and it seems to be confirmed by HDI...how bad is it (for those that have it)?

Thanks.

Opentoe

03-26-10, 08:12 PM

Apparently thread mods think high thread views or the length of the thread means better business. This thread is way to long, too long to grab or get any useful information out of it since it goes in 20 directions. Things should be on topic, and that's why I indicated we should break away from the many pages of MyMovie questions to another thread which I started but it's hard to break the bulls horns on some people.

bruin95

03-27-10, 01:03 AM

Looks like digitalconnection.com (where I bought my from) still has Primes available, but not the Bases. Probably the loud drives are hurting the sales of the prime.

The new batch of Primes have been reported to have much quieter drives.

jrolmstd

03-27-10, 01:30 AM

The new batch of Primes have been reported to have much quieter drives.

LOL, wonder if they take trade ins :)

Opentoe

03-27-10, 02:48 AM

I was forced to watch a bluray with the player (I usually just rip to media and watch through the LAN, and it was loud enough I got some sound absorbing foam and wrapped the damn thing. Best i could do. The drive plays just fine, just too loud. Would I buy another player? HECK yea. This player is that good, but it would most likely be without a drive in it. Yahoooo.

pouterson

03-27-10, 08:47 AM

Ok i think i got this working now.

What were your problems? I'm having issues as well. I can't get the description details to show up after I click on the Movie cover icon. If you have any ideas, please let me know. Thanks.

Paul

GotHDTV?

03-27-10, 02:24 PM

What were your problems? I'm having issues as well. I can't get the description details to show up after I click on the Movie cover icon. If you have any ideas, please let me know. Thanks.

Paul

sounds like you need to go into settings (advanced) and change DVD and Bluray playback to open instead of play. You may need to modify mymovies if it does not play like a disc after the descriptions.

Mike:SH

03-27-10, 06:58 PM

Opentoe

03-28-10, 12:53 AM

http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23047

Thanks for the link, but I can just keep using my BD that is in my computer. Since I share that across my network it plays fine, and actually sits right next to me and silent. One day I will open it up and possibly fool around with that. I don't want to take it out of warranty right now.

spiderv6

03-28-10, 09:44 AM

jrolmstd

03-28-10, 12:32 PM

How do you get the Dune to jump straight to the "Index" directory created by MyMovies?

I have changed my directory stroring all the movies to ".Movies" and inside that directory is the "Index" directory.

I have the icon network path set to ".Movies" and I get to the listing of all my movies no problem. When I change that to ".Movies\Index" that doesn't work and the Dune complains of not being able to access the network resource.

What did I miss?

I think what you want is .Movies at the same level as the Index or:

Root
Root/Index
Root/.Movies

Then the share points to Root, the .Movies is not shown but the Index is.

If you want, you can take it one step more and move the sub folders out of the Index to the root and delete the Index folder. This way you do not have a single folder come up you have to click on to open the index.

Some say you need to correct the paths in the Index folder after this is done. Others say Dune can handle it. Not sure

spiderv6

03-28-10, 12:40 PM

I think what you want is .Movies at the same level as the Index or:

Root
Root/Index
Root/.Movies

Then the share points to Root, the .Movies is not shown but the Index is.

If you want, you can take it one step more and move the sub folders out of the Index to the root and delete the Index folder. This way you do not have a single folder come up you have to click on to open the index.

Some say you need to correct the paths in the Index folder after this is done. Others say Dune can handle it. Not sure

Thanks, will try that. Although now that I look at the Index folder after the move (I deleted everything and restarted the indexing just to keep it clean) I see that the Index forlder is empty and I have an Index.tmp folder which is only semi-complete........need to figure out that one first!

[Edit] Ok, I can see the Index.tmp folder is being added to, so I guess I'm just too quick off the mark....presumably its building this before copying it over.

jrolmstd

03-28-10, 01:18 PM

Thanks, will try that. Although now that I look at the Index folder after the move (I deleted everything and restarted the indexing just to keep it clean) I see that the Index forlder is empty and I have an Index.tmp folder which is only semi-complete........need to figure out that one first!

[Edit] Ok, I can see the Index.tmp folder is being added to, so I guess I'm just too quick off the mark....presumably its building this before copying it over.

Not sure if index.tmp is something that occurs when things go wrong OR if it is always there and deleted when the process successfully completes.

If you end up with a index.tmp and no index file the most likely reason is the indexing ran into a problem. This is usually reported by a 'generic' file in use message.

Sometimes the file is in use (I make sure the Dune is turned off when indexing) but most times it is caused by a drive/folder/file not being found. I always clear and turn on the logs in CM before indexing. It is the only place to find out what really happened...

MaxBurn

03-28-10, 01:24 PM

I always clear and turn on the logs in CM before indexing. It is the only place to find out what really happened...

I'm having that problem, can you tell me where those logs are?

spiderv6

03-28-10, 01:35 PM

I'm having that problem, can you tell me where those logs are?

The logs are in the My Movies Add-In tab (if you are using WHS).

Mine is stull churning through......

spiderv6

03-28-10, 02:50 PM

OK, so it's finished creating the index but it does not work from the Dune.

Originally my Index folder was in \\hpserver\.Movies\Index\[the subfolders]
but I copied the Index folder to \\hpserver\Index\[the subfolders]

My Dune is now pointing to \\hpserver\index which it finds and brings up the category icons.

Now when I select a category, e.g., All, I see the movie names listed but no icons, fanart, info etc. and the movie does not start.

Obviously there is a link or path somewhere that I have broken by copying the Index sub-folders to a new place.....

ScottJ

03-28-10, 04:37 PM

Originally my Index folder was in \\hpserver\.Movies\Index\[the subfolders]
but I copied the Index folder to \\hpserver\Index\[the subfolders]

My Dune is now pointing to \\hpserver\index which it finds and brings up the category icons.

Now when I select a category, e.g., All, I see the movie names listed but no icons, fanart, info etc. and the movie does not start.

Obviously there is a link or path somewhere that I have broken by copying the Index sub-folders to a new place.....

Yes, the media_url in the dune_folder.txt will be broken now. You can either edit all those, or do what I did: have MyMovies create the index in \\hpserver\Index (with movies in \\hpserver\.Movies), then move Index\* up one directory and delete the now-empty Index directory.

This method works without breaking the links because the media_urls are relative paths, using .. to go up one directory. Since the .movies is in the root directory, going .. from there doesn't go anywhere. In other words, the link in the media_url of /Index/All Titles/Godfather/../../../.movies is the same as the actual location of /All Titles/Godfather/../../.movies.

spiderv6

03-28-10, 06:32 PM

Yes, the media_url in the dune_folder.txt will be broken now. You can either edit all those, or do what I did: have MyMovies create the index in \\hpserver\Index (with movies in \\hpserver\.Movies), then move Index\* up one directory and delete the now-empty Index directory.

This method works without breaking the links because the media_urls are relative paths, using .. to go up one directory. Since the .movies is in the root directory, going .. from there doesn't go anywhere. In other words, the link in the media_url of /Index/All Titles/Godfather/../../../.movies is the same as the actual location of /All Titles/Godfather/../../.movies.

OK, sounds logical, but where do you tell my movies to create the Index folder? It insists on putting mine inside my .Movies folder.

I typed in \\hpserver\index into the index folder name box, but it seems to be ignoring that.

ScottJ

03-28-10, 07:12 PM

OK, sounds logical, but where do you tell my movies to create the Index folder? It insists on putting mine inside my .Movies folder.

I typed in \\hpserver\index into the index folder name box, but it seems to be ignoring that.

I'm using My Movies Collection Management on a local disk. Under the Tools -> Options -> Meta Data Storage -> Dune Configure screen I have the following.

Dune content paths: H:\Movies
Index folder name: Index

The movies themselves are in H:\Movies\.movies\Godfather, etc. My NFS share is set to H:\Movies, so the Dune sees .movies as a top-level directory.

This is all really ugly and stupid, but it's the best way I've found to get My Movies to do what I need.

spiderv6

03-28-10, 09:02 PM

Best I can tell with the Indexing part is....sometimes it works...and sometimes it doesn't

I cant work out when, why or how.

I'll leave it for a couple of days and see if it starts to work again........

qz3fwd

03-28-10, 09:07 PM

GotHDTV?

03-28-10, 10:20 PM

4. BD load times are much looooonger than I expected-10-50 seconds. I expected near instantaneous loading of BD's off a 7200 RPM HDD.

I don't know about your other issues, but I have no idea why you expected #4. Even you if you had a solid state hard drive (SSD), it would not load any faster. BDs have to load into system memory and no input methods is going to make it any faster (unless they let you change out the processor).

SilverBlade

03-29-10, 08:24 AM

katanel

03-29-10, 08:30 AM

Just make your computer BD a share and play that through the network from the Dune. Acts just like if the Dune had a BD drive in it.

then? should I choose the Base?

absolootbs

03-29-10, 09:10 AM

Question about the Dune Base 3 and Gigabit

Even though the Dune can't use the gigabit protocol, is there any problem with the Dune accessing a computer - which has a gigabit ethernet port, through the router?

no, that will not be a problem. the only gigabit/dune related problems arise from turning the "experimental gigabit" feature on in the dune setup, since the sigma chip does not technically support gigabit. and even then, it's not a 100% failure rate. some have had success with that option enabled, others have not.

absolootbs

03-29-10, 09:48 AM

I finally hooked up my Dune Base 3.0 w/factory installed firmware and slid a 1TB Hitachi HDD in the trayless bay with NTFS filesystem. BD rips (iso & file) sometimes playback oddly. Symptoms include:
1. Selecting play on menu returns to the menu and playback does not start at the beginning of the movie.
2. Selecting play on a BD changes inputs on my XBR (HDMI CEC enabled) to its internal QAM tuner.
3. Microstutters
4. BD load times are much looooonger than I expected-10-50 seconds. I expected near instantaneous loading of BD's off a 7200 RPM HDD.
5. Abrupt video flashing and green artifacts when going from a menu to playback. It is quite jarring and not very smoothly executed.

Will upgrading the firmware help playback issues? What is the consensus on the best firmware version to use?

1. i've seen this issue too. i usually rip main movie only, but on a concert disc i have i like to jump directly to certain songs, so i ripped the full disc with menu. when i click to play the whole concert from the disc's menu, it displays the fbi warning then returns me to the menu. i assumed it was an issue with the rip, not the dune, and have never really looked into it. i'm using dvdfab6 and ripping to file structure. what are you using to rip, and are you seeing the issue with file structure, iso, or both?

2. no idea. fw bug?

3. what exactly do you mean by microstutters? could this possibly be framerate judder that you're experiencing? what framerate are you outputting from the dune, whats it running through (avr, standalone vp, straight to display, etc)? if the "microstutter" is just video based, then it could have something to do with the answers to those questions. but if there is an audio hiccup as well, then it's not framerate based and i'm not sure what your problem is.

4. despite what gothdtv said, this is surprising to me. i have a prime (ie. no internal hd) so i stream my rips across my network and, although i've never timed it, i would say all of them load in less than 10 seconds. since the transfer rate of a hd should beat read rates of optical drives, i would think it should make sense for a rip to load faster than a disc. re: my results vs. yours, at first i was thinking maybe i see faster load times because my rips are movie only and you indicated yours include menus, which generally mean you're doing full disc. but iirc my aforementioned concert disc (full disc rip) is about the same as all of my other (movie only) rips. have you paid specific attention to iso vs. file structure? i could see iso taking a little longer, since it has to mount the image, in addition to accessing/loading the file structure once the image is mounted.

5. this is probably just the result of the player changing from one resolution and/or framerate to another when going from the disc's menu to its feature. i get some similar garbage when going from a bd movie to the dune's menu, if i have the dune configured for 1080/24p on bd, but something other than 1080/24p for everything else. i think this may be something i've read was worse in older firmware versions, and you mentioned you were running the earliest one.

i would definitely try upgrading the firmware. it's an extremely easy thing to do on a dune, and hdi makes every version available, so you can always mess around with different ones and use the one that has the least amount of bugs for your particular situation. it's a win/win. i bought my dune used and when i got it it had the second newest one (11/09 i think) on it. worked fine, but i liked some of what i saw in the release notes to the version that was released earlier this month. i've been using that version since a few days after it was released and have not had any negative issues with it either.

GotHDTV?

03-29-10, 11:52 AM

4. despite what gothdtv said, this is surprising to me. i have a prime (ie. no internal hd) so i stream my rips across my network and, although i've never timed it, i would say all of them load in less than 10 seconds. since the transfer rate of a hd should beat read rates of optical drives, i would think it should make sense for a rip to load faster than a disc. re: my results vs. yours, at first i was thinking maybe i see faster load times because my rips are movie only and you indicated yours include menus, which generally mean you're doing full disc. but iirc my aforementioned concert disc (full disc rip) is about the same as all of my other (movie only) rips. have you paid specific attention to iso vs. file structure? i could see iso taking a little longer, since it has to mount the image, in addition to accessing/loading the file structure once the image is mounted.

Like you said, you are playing just the movie (that is practically instant). If you still have the menus in there and are playing like a disc, then the player has to load BD-Java, etc. That is a matter of how fast the processor can handle it and won't matter if it is Optical Disc or Hard Disk.

absolootbs

03-29-10, 12:03 PM

Like you said, you are playing just the movie (that is practically instant). If you still have the menus in there and are playing like a disc, then the player has to load BD-Java, etc. That is a matter of how fast the processor can handle it and won't matter if it is Optical Disc or Hard Disk.

but also as i said... "but iirc my aforementioned concert disc (full disc rip) is about the same [load time] as all of my other (movie only) rips." also, when i play the disc itself, from the optical drive in the prime, its much closer to an average blu-ray loading time (~20 - 30 seconds). given these two facts, i don't see how the processor could possibly be the bottleneck. seems to me to indicate it's the optical drive.

and just to be sure we're on the same page, my movie only rips still retain the blu-ray file structure and the dune therefore still treats it as if i were playing a blu-ray disc, albeit with less to load, as you said. but it's still a bit more involved, from the players perspective, than if i were just playing a single video file that happened to contain my blu-ray movie.

GotHDTV?

03-29-10, 12:43 PM

but also as i said... "but iirc my aforementioned concert disc (full disc rip) is about the same [load time] as all of my other (movie only) rips." also, when i play the disc itself, from the optical drive in the prime, its much closer to an average blu-ray loading time (~20 - 30 seconds). given these two facts, i don't see how the processor could possibly be the bottleneck. seems to me to indicate it's the optical drive.

and just to be sure we're on the same page, my movie only rips still retain the blu-ray file structure and the dune therefore still treats it as if i were playing a blu-ray disc, albeit with less to load, as you said. but it's still a bit more involved, from the players perspective, than if i were just playing a single video file that happened to contain my blu-ray movie.

Okay, I got a question for you. Did you burn the movie only structure to BD-R or did you play the original disc when you tested the optical drive? I doubt that you would waste a BD-R if you have the original disc, but I thought I would ask. If you are playing the original disc, then the menus have to load. Your concert disc must have a limited menu. Yes, optical drives are slower then Hard Drives (that is a fact and in your example, it does show that can be the case). I was just saying that most BDs have BD-Java in their Menus and that takes time to load (some players faster then others because of their processors) and that would take precedence over the speed of the optical drive versus hard drive.

ArthurPower

03-29-10, 03:13 PM

I would recommend anyone experiencing issues to try the latest firmware. It has been very stable and fixes many of the problems that are being reported here.

Firmware Downloads (http://www.duneplayer.com/shop/custom.asp?recid=2)

Arthur

DunePlayer.com

haloguy628

03-29-10, 03:50 PM

blackssr

03-29-10, 04:00 PM

I installed the latest beta firmware and all seemed OK. However I just tried to play my .flac music and it does not work. When I press play, I still get to select "play media files" in the pop up, however then after few seconds the Dune kick back to the file list without playing.

With the previous firmware .flac played without problem. Can somebody confirm that this is a new glitch in the beta? Thanks.

Educate me please... What advantage does Flac have over a normal CD rip?

qz3fwd

03-29-10, 04:05 PM

Okay, I got a question for you. Did you burn the movie only structure to BD-R or did you play the original disc when you tested the optical drive? I doubt that you would waste a BD-R if you have the original disc, but I thought I would ask. If you are playing the original disc, then the menus have to load. Your concert disc must have a limited menu. Yes, optical drives are slower then Hard Drives (that is a fact and in your example, it does show that can be the case). I was just saying that most BDs have BD-Java in their Menus and that takes time to load (some players faster then others because of their processors) and that would take precedence over the speed of the optical drive versus hard drive.

Yes-I understand that but I was hoping this generation of hardware would have a faster processor & memory bandwidth to load BDJ code, compile it to native code and execute it, unlike many previous generation hardware which was painfully slow. The Dune is not too bad, but I had expected much faster. Maybe its just my expectations were too high. I am coming from a Sammy 1500 as my most recent standalone player.

haloguy628

03-29-10, 04:15 PM

Educate me please... What advantage does Flac have over a normal CD rip?

Is this a trick question? :confused:

MP3 vs FLAC vs WAV: Audio formats primer (http://www.obsessable.com/feature/mp3-vs-flac-vs-wav-audio-formats-primer/)

ArthurPower

03-29-10, 04:37 PM

I installed the latest beta firmware and all seemed OK. However I just tried to play my .flac music and it does not work. When I press play, I still get to select "play media files" in the pop up, however then after few seconds the Dune kick back to the file list without playing.

With the previous firmware .flac played without problem. Can somebody confirm that this is a new glitch in the beta? Thanks.

Very strange. I save all my music in FLAC and I have no problems at all with the latest firmware. Can you try the 'Restore Factory Defaults Utility (http://www.duneplayer.com/shop/custom.asp?recid=2)' on our website and report back?

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

bouchardino

03-29-10, 05:08 PM

My .flac files play fine with the 2100 firmware. My only complaint is that the Dune sends 5.1 flacs over HDMI as PCM 7.1, so I can't use Pro Logic 2X to expand from 5.1 to 7.1.

haloguy628

03-29-10, 05:29 PM

ArthurPower

03-29-10, 06:09 PM

OK Arthur, I downloaded the .dsf Restore to Default file. What do I do with it?

Un-zip the file and put the dune_service_reset_settings.dsf file on a USB flash drive. Plug it into the player, navigate to the file, select it and click Enter to execute it. Then restart your player. You will then need to reconfigure all your settings and preferences (video resolution & audio PCM or bitstream).

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

jhnmdahl

03-29-10, 06:43 PM

Educate me please... What advantage does Flac have over a normal CD rip?

FLAC is a normal CD rip.

jhnmdahl

03-29-10, 06:45 PM

Anyone else eagerly awaiting the streaming Netflix firmware update promised Q4 '09 - Q1 '10? That leaves less than two days for the implementation to be released...

bob13654

03-29-10, 06:45 PM

ScottJ

03-29-10, 06:51 PM

Anyone else eagerly awaiting the streaming Netflix firmware update promised Q4 '09 - Q1 '10? That leaves less than two days for the implementation to be released...

I bought the Dune because I wanted the highest picture and audio quality, and it seemed to be the best box for playing Blu-ray rips at full quality.

Netflix streaming quality is crap compared to Blu-ray. IIRC the audio is stereo (or Pro-Logic) only. Bah.

In other words, I don't care at all about Netflix streaming. If Netflix streaming quality was acceptable to me, I would have bought a much cheaper media player.

ArthurPower

03-29-10, 06:53 PM

FLAC is a normal CD rip.

FLAC Free Lossless Audio Codec saves about 40% of storage on average over ripping to WAV files without any loss of audio quality. It also supports meta data which WAV files lack.

Arthur

DunePlayer.com

ArthurPower

03-29-10, 06:58 PM

Just placed an order for a Base from duneplayer.com. I have a question though. I have a HP Mediasmart ex495 that I will use to stream to the Base. I have read that I may need to set up an NFS share from the server for the Base. Is this necessary? I plan on using the Base primarily for DVD and Blu-Ray rips. I really don't know how to do it, but I can google the instructions. However, why mess with the hassle if I don't need to. Thanks.

If you use the latest firmware the default network settings should work fine with your NAS.

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

absolootbs

03-29-10, 07:21 PM

Okay, I got a question for you. Did you burn the movie only structure to BD-R or did you play the original disc when you tested the optical drive? I doubt that you would waste a BD-R if you have the original disc, but I thought I would ask. If you are playing the original disc, then the menus have to load. Your concert disc must have a limited menu. Yes, optical drives are slower then Hard Drives (that is a fact and in your example, it does show that can be the case). I was just saying that most BDs have BD-Java in their Menus and that takes time to load (some players faster then others because of their processors) and that would take precedence over the speed of the optical drive versus hard drive.

no, this was original disc in optical drive @ ~20 - 30 seconds vs. full disc file structure rip over ethernet @ <10 seconds. i think you're probably onto something with the complexity (or lack thereof) of the menu though. the menu on this disc (chris botti in boston) reminds me of a dvd menu. i only have about 15 blu-rays currently, so my exposure is a bit limited, but just in those 15ish i've certainly seen far more robust menus than what this disc has.

blackssr

03-29-10, 07:26 PM

Just placed an order for a Base from duneplayer.com. I have a question though. I have a HP Mediasmart ex495 that I will use to stream to the Base. I have read that I may need to set up an NFS share from the server for the Base. Is this necessary? I plan on using the Base primarily for DVD and Blu-Ray rips. I really don't know how to do it, but I can google the instructions. However, why mess with the hassle if I don't need to. Thanks.

WHS works perfectly with the dune. SMB share will yield 11MB/s over a healthy network. No need to worry about NFS. I have WHS with 32 TB array and SMB setup. I stream to 3 bases at the same time without stutter.

bob13654

03-29-10, 10:08 PM

jhnmdahl

03-29-10, 10:49 PM

FLAC Free Lossless Audio Codec saves about 40% of storage on average over ripping to WAV files without any loss of audio quality. It also supports meta data which WAV files lack.

Arthur

DunePlayer.com

Yep, it's basically Rice coding for audio. A great lossless format, and the only one I've used for many years now. It's always been my "normal" CD rip. Asking about FLAC relative to .wav, .mp3, or some other specific format would have made a comparison easy, but asking about FLAC relative to a "normal" rip without specifying what he considers normal makes a meaningful answer difficult.

blackssr

03-30-10, 07:04 AM

One last question, for now. Do you need to use a USB stick for full BD Rips? I seem to remember reading that they were necessary for the extended memory for BD Live, but I'm not sure if it was in this thread or somewhere else.

I only have BD ISOs that contain movie, HIdef Audio and Subs. No menus or BD live so I am not experienced enough to answer. Maybe Arthur can chime in.

GotHDTV?

03-30-10, 08:26 AM

One last question, for now. Do you need to use a USB stick for full BD Rips? I seem to remember reading that they were necessary for the extended memory for BD Live, but I'm not sure if it was in this thread or somewhere else.

I really don't think so. I have seen alot of full BDs rips and only one movie so far I could not play (Jennifer's body). Arthur said that that there are very few movies that require the memory stick thing and suggested that I use try the memory stick on Jennifer's body. I have not had time to try it, but maybe this week.

Opentoe

03-30-10, 08:49 AM

then? should I choose the Base?

Addition, you need to have AnyDVD running for the BD playback to work. What a little savior that program is.

bouchardino

03-30-10, 09:36 AM

One last question, for now. Do you need to use a USB stick for full BD Rips? I seem to remember reading that they were necessary for the extended memory for BD Live, but I'm not sure if it was in this thread or somewhere else.

If you are ripping the complete disc, certain discs do need system storage. I think that these are only BD Live titles. If you just rip the main movie plus primary language and subtitles, you don't need the system storage. I've ripped over 100 BD's and ripped the complete disc just once - for Close Encounters since I wanted to retain all 3 versions of the movie. BD's can easily have 10GB or more of disc space used for things other than the movie, so you may want to consider just ripping the movie in most cases.

SilverBlade

03-30-10, 12:35 PM

GotHDTV?

03-30-10, 03:51 PM

I've been reading on the mpcclub forums about a lip sync issue. Has it been resolved? I recently ordered a Dune Base (hasn't shipped yet) and I'm worried that I spent $400 on something that is broken.

The mpcclub has to be more knowledgeable then our forum because HDI developers actually read messages and post there. That aside, I have never encounter any lipsync issues (but then again, I don't really try alot of different file types).

bbanderic

03-30-10, 04:37 PM

Addition, you need to have AnyDVD running for the BD playback to work. What a little savior that program is.

Why would you need AnyDVD running for BD playback? Under what circumstances? I'm curious.

If you have ripped a Blu-ray disc to files or ISO with AnyDVD and removed all the protections you shouldn't need it running for playback on any device.

ScottJ

03-30-10, 04:46 PM

Why would you need AnyDVD running for BD playback? Under what circumstances? I'm curious.

If you have ripped a Blu-ray disc to files or ISO with AnyDVD and removed all the protections you shouldn't need it running for playback on any device.

I think he was referring to making the Blu-ray drive an NFS/CIFS share and then playing the disc back through the network on the Dune. Not ripping first.

aiden_is

03-30-10, 04:58 PM

Why would you need AnyDVD running for BD playback? Under what circumstances? I'm curious.

Several people simply make an exact ISO image from the disc, without any kind of reauthoring whatsoever. The idea is that it avoids any problems that can be introduced by AnyDVD (bugs) during the write process. When they want to play the movie back, at that point AnyDVD needs to be running to bypass the cp.

TKO

03-30-10, 07:02 PM

When they want to play the movie back, at that point AnyDVD needs to be running to bypass the cp.

The Dune contains the proper BD licensing to decrypt AACS from BD's. This means the original BD can be ripped while maintaining AACS. If this is done, the Dune does not require AnyDVD to decrypt. It's technically impossible anyway since the Dune is streaming an ISO file and not mounting it on the shared computer which in turn could apply AnyDVD processing on the mount.

AbMagFab

03-30-10, 09:52 PM

The Dune contains the proper BD licensing to decrypt AACS from BD's. This means the original BD can be ripped while maintaining AACS. If this is done, the Dune does not require AnyDVD to decrypt. It's technically impossible anyway since the Dune is streaming an ISO file and not mounting it on the shared computer which in turn could apply AnyDVD processing on the mount.

An ISO w/ AACS will not play on anything without AnyDVD running. An ISO w/ AACS burned to a new BluRay disc will not play on anything without AnyDVD running.

Your full disc options are:
1) Original physical disc w/ AACS, in the Dune
2) Original physical disc w/ AACS, streamed with AnyDVD running
3) ISO w/ AACS and BD+ removed at rip time, streamed
4) ISO w/ AACS and BD+ removed at mount time, streamed after being mounted with AnyDVD

That being said, I'm not 100% sure the Dune can play non-AACS BD ISOs anyway, but someone else can chime in here.

flaminio

03-31-10, 10:02 AM

Anyone have the Dlink DNS-323 NAS running with the Dune? Or have a NAS recommendation?

AbMagFab

03-31-10, 10:03 AM

Anyone have the Dlink DNS-323 NAS running with the Dune? Or have a NAS recommendation?

Any of the QNAPs are great, recommend the Pros.

blackssr

03-31-10, 10:37 AM

Anyone have the Dlink DNS-323 NAS running with the Dune? Or have a NAS recommendation?

I have tested the DNS-323 with the Dune. It is capable of feeding the Dune at 11 MB/s over GB lan. However, it is very slow to load files to it. Mine maxed out 12 MB/s. With Jumbo packet support enabled I was able to load files at 28-30 MB/s to it. Just for comparison I run WHS w/ raid 5 array and load files at a speed of 90-120 MB/s. Hugh difference.

dsp81

03-31-10, 11:04 AM

Anyone have the Dlink DNS-323 NAS running with the Dune? Or have a NAS recommendation?
I tried streaming Blu-Ray ISOs from the 323 and had stuttering problems. Tried all 3 of the configurations (JBOD, RAID 0 and RAID 1). The 323 couldn't read the file fast enough for Blu-Ray. I didn't have any issues with lower bandwidth files, though.

haloguy628

03-31-10, 12:12 PM

Very strange. I save all my music in FLAC and I have no problems at all with the latest firmware. Can you try the 'Restore Factory Defaults Utility (http://www.duneplayer.com/shop/custom.asp?recid=2)' on our website and report back?

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

Hi Arthur. Took me some time to do the reset. Still having the same problem.

I now noticed that on my Onkyo TX-NR906 the following indicator lights start blinking when I try to play flac file - HDMI, DSP, and PCM. They keep blinking even after the Dune go from PLAY - STOP - READY on it's display and the file list comes back on TV screen.

So it looks like the Dune is sending some signals even after trying to play the flac and then going back into standby.

I have the Dune set to BITSTREAM and all is hooked up with HDMI.

I tried to rename the flac files so no spaces are present in file names (substituted underscore) but still no cigar. I use EAC together with AutoFLAC to encode and use Tag&Rename to edit ID3v1 & 2 tags.

As I said before flac played without problem before I installed the newest beta fw. Everything else is working fine including mp3 files.

blackssr

03-31-10, 12:23 PM

I tried streaming Blu-Ray ISOs from the 323 and had stuttering problems. Tried all 3 of the configurations (JBOD, RAID 0 and RAID 1). The 323 couldn't read the file fast enough for Blu-Ray. I didn't have any issues with lower bandwidth files, though.

Do a speed test with the Dunes internal test. If you are not getting at least 8MB/s - 11MB/s then your network needs to be looked at as the possible bottleneck. On a healthy fast GB lan the Dlink 323 can feed 1 Dune player a full BD ISO without stuttering. Please check and report back.

Thanks

spiderv6

03-31-10, 01:10 PM

icon_path=../../../DVD/Angels And Demons/.Icon.aai
background_path=../../../DVD/Angels And Demons/.Backdrop.aai
icon_dx=0
icon_dy=0
icon_valign=center
icon_halign=left
use_icon_view=yes
num_cols=1
num_rows=1
icon_top=0
text_bottom=0
background_order=first
paint_path_box=no
paint_content_box_background=no
paint_help_line=no
optimize_full_screen_background=yes
paint_icon_selection_box=no
paint_content_box_background=no
content_box_y=1000
paint_scrollbar=no
paint_captions=no

Im going nuts here trying to recreate my Index file to end up with a dune folder that looks like the one above. Instead I have one that looks like;

icon_path=.Icon.aai
icon_dx=0
icon_dy=0
icon_valign=center
icon_halign=left
use_icon_view=yes
num_cols=1
num_rows=1
icon_top=0
text_bottom=0

I was moving stuff around and installing/re-installing over the weekend and I now have lost my original settings. No fanart, no backgrounds etc.

Why isn't mymovies creating the dune_folder structure quoted above?

dsp81

03-31-10, 03:48 PM

Do a speed test with the Dunes internal test. If you are not getting at least 8MB/s - 11MB/s then your network needs to be looked at as the possible bottleneck. On a healthy fast GB lan the Dlink 323 can feed 1 Dune player a full BD ISO without stuttering. Please check and report back.

Thanks

It's not a network issue. I have a file server (not a busy box) that I have no issues pulling 100MB/s (and 80MB/s sustained) with. Perhaps it was the drives (WD 2tb Greens), but the 323 would start streaming and then start stuttering about 3 minutes in.

jrolmstd

03-31-10, 05:03 PM

Im going nuts here trying to recreate my Index file to end up with a dune folder that looks like the one above. Instead I have one that looks like;

icon_path=.Icon.aai
icon_dx=0
icon_dy=0
icon_valign=center
icon_halign=left
use_icon_view=yes
num_cols=1
num_rows=1
icon_top=0
text_bottom=0

I was moving stuff around and installing/re-installing over the weekend and I now have lost my original settings. No fanart, no backgrounds etc.

Why isn't mymovies creating the dune_folder structure quoted above?

MyMovies uses a XML file to control what goes into each dune_folder.txt file. The XML sections are dependent on the level of the and if the directory contains multiple files or not.

I used the cheat sheet below to help me get a handle on it but another way is to add a entry in each section of the xml file that says something like section=sectionName where sectionName changes for each section. Run your update and crack open the dune_folder.txt file and find what sectionName was used for the index.

BTW, there can be a number of copies of the XML file floating around on your system depending on how many times you have installed myMovies, as a client, a server, on the server, etc, etc, etc. First step is to make sure the .XML file you are editing is the one the update is using...

For example, mine is found in D:\Program Files (x86)\Binnerup Consult\My Movies Collection Management\Modules\MetaData\Dune and I use the Template1080P petits icones.xml because I can fit 3 rows of 7 columns on the screen at one time.

Yours may reside someplace else...

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/JROBucket/MyMoviesLayout.jpg

blackssr

03-31-10, 08:51 PM

It's not a network issue. I have a file server (not a busy box) that I have no issues pulling 100MB/s (and 80MB/s sustained) with. Perhaps it was the drives (WD 2tb Greens), but the 323 would start streaming and then start stuttering about 3 minutes in.

The Dune and a PC are 2 different animals. Did you actually do a speed test from the Dune internal test? What are the numbers? This will tell the tale. If you can not sustain at least 8 MB/s then you have a network issue between the Dune and The Dlink. I have a Dlink 323 with 2 1.5 green drives and set a solid 11 MB/s to all three of my Dunes. I can play the highest bitrate BD ISOs without a stutter. Do a speed test to get numbers so we can assist you better in finding a fix.

keeway

03-31-10, 09:42 PM

I am just about ready to purchase a dune prime 3.0 to replace my wdtv live and BD player but have been searching around and i can not find any straight answer to whether or not the box will play all my backup discs (VCD, AVCHD, DVD and BD's). i know it will play all the formats over the net or from a external device but hopefully someone will say if it can or can't play from the built in player because the specs show only "Playback of retail Blu-ray and DVD discs".

thanks
James

GotHDTV?

04-01-10, 12:06 AM

I do not have that Blu-ray so I can not confirm. It sure does sounds like it could be the lack of system storage. Can you add a thumb drive to see if that works? And report your findings?

You'll need a 2gb USB flash drive and THIS (http://www.duneplayer.com/Firmware/Flash%20Storage/system_storage.zip) utility.

Arthur

I just got a 2GB usb flash drive. I ran the initalize dsf and it made the USB system storage. I still could not get Jennifer's Body Bluray to load.

Now I have a question. If I remove the USB, I don't see any system storage. Isn't there supposed to be some built in? Hope I did not screw things up by trying to add USB storage.

Thanks in advance

dsp81

04-01-10, 03:26 AM

The Dune and a PC are 2 different animals. Did you actually do a speed test from the Dune internal test? What are the numbers? This will tell the tale. If you can not sustain at least 8 MB/s then you have a network issue between the Dune and The Dlink. I have a Dlink 323 with 2 1.5 green drives and set a solid 11 MB/s to all three of my Dunes. I can play the highest bitrate BD ISOs without a stutter. Do a speed test to get numbers so we can assist you better in finding a fix.

Obviously they are different. I shared that merely to indicate that a network that is able to achieve 100MB/s is probably not the issue. And the ability of that file server to achieve those speeds was why I stopped playing with the 323 pretty quickly in the first place.

So for educational purposes, I pulled out the 'ol 323 and put 2 1TB WD Greens in. I formatted RAID 0 EXT3 and copied over Pirates of the Caribbean 3 - which is the largest ISO I've got at 39Gb for the main movie. Plugged the 323 and Dune into the same switch (Netgear ProSafe Gigabit). Tried playing over SMB and got stuttering within the first minute.

So I ran some tests. The methodology was thus: 1Gb of Pirates for each run(because I wasn't waiting for the test to complete). The results are are not exhaustive (because I got tired waiting on that 40Gb file to transfer to the 323 after every reformat). Nor are they even that scientific (mostly because I didn't care). But I did follow the same methodology. Here's the results:

RAID 0 EXT2

NFS

100BaseT: 10~11 MB/s (It was bouncing around, and it's whole numbers after 10)
1000BaseT: 8.8 MB/s

SMB

100BaseT: 7.9 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.1 MB/s

RAID 0 EXT3

NFS

100BaseT: 9.9 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.1 MB/s

SMB

100BaseT: 7.9 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.0 MB/s

JBOD EXT2

NFS

100BaseT: 11 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8 MB/s

SMB

100BaseT: 7.9 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.1 MB/s

JBOD EXT3

NFS

100BaseT: 9.7 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.4 MB/s

SMB

100BaseT: 7.8 MB/s
1000BaseT: 8.0 MB/s

I had issues with stuttering over SMB, no matter the RAID format. There were less problems when gigabit was turned off, however (which contradicts the through-put numbers). NFS was also faster using 100BaseT - including the raw numbers. So, it turns out it doesn't really matter that much how you format the drives, it's more important how you set the NIC and what protocol you use. You can use SMB, but I encountered more problems using it. NFS was the way to go.

I'm probably not going to test RAID 1 - but would expect the results to be in line with JBOD.

VAMET

04-01-10, 04:14 AM

Dear Friends

Question 1:
May I use media_url to redirect to root folder on other HDD?
HDD1 with dune_folder.txt (media_url: storage_name://HDD2/
Not to play media, only for redirection from one HDD1 to another, and after redirection to be able to browsing HDD2?

Question 2:
Dune HD BASE 3.0 has got 3 USB ports and 1 eSATA port, may I connect in the same time 3 external HDD via USB and 1 external HDD via eSATA or this eSATA port next to USB port is only working when no USB external HDD is connected at the same time?

Best regards.

Sincerely

Techaholic

04-01-10, 10:28 AM

Yesterday when I put in a BD disc Inglorious Bastards, I could not control the GUI, if I pressed the select next direction button on the remote it would just keep scrolling to the end. So if you needed to select say Audio, when you press the move right button it would move right until it hit the end of all the objects to the right, and also do this if you tried to go up or down. In order to fix this after 30 mins of power on/off, factory default, reload firmware, I pulled the USB stick out that I was using as system storage and it stopped going crazy. This box seems somewhat unstable, has this happened to anyone else or do you think my Dune is faulty.

GotHDTV?

04-01-10, 10:40 AM

spiderv6

04-01-10, 01:48 PM

MyMovies uses a XML file to control what goes into each dune_folder.txt file. The XML sections are dependent on the level of the and if the directory contains multiple files or not.

I used the cheat sheet below to help me get a handle on it but another way is to add a entry in each section of the xml file that says something like section=sectionName where sectionName changes for each section. Run your update and crack open the dune_folder.txt file and find what sectionName was used for the index.

BTW, there can be a number of copies of the XML file floating around on your system depending on how many times you have installed myMovies, as a client, a server, on the server, etc, etc, etc. First step is to make sure the .XML file you are editing is the one the update is using...

For example, mine is found in D:\Program Files (x86)\Binnerup Consult\My Movies Collection Management\Modules\MetaData\Dune and I use the Template1080P petits icones.xml because I can fit 3 rows of 7 columns on the screen at one time.

Yours may reside someplace else...

Still cant get this to run. It seems to be completely ignoring the XML template which is stored in the location mentioned above on my WHS box, although mine is called Template1080P.xml.

Can anyone post a known working copy of that XML?

GotHDTV?

04-01-10, 04:59 PM

I never had a problem with Inglorious Basterds BD, but I never had a USB stick for system storage. Now that I purchased a USB stick for storage, I can try it out when I get home and let you know.

Techaholic, I just tried this with my USB stick as a System Storage and the menu on Inglorious Basterds does not jump around on me. I can control it fine.

Maybe it is your remote (e.g. batteries)?

CINERAMAX

04-01-10, 05:59 PM

Is there a way to know over the network what file is being played in the base. I need this to affect content specific Crestron automation macros?

Any lnfo appreciated.

VAMET

04-01-10, 06:11 PM

Dear Friends

I have 1:1 copy BDMV folder structure of Black Hawk Down, when I play it via Dune HD Base 3.0 (from internal HDD) on the Menu, when we may choose Play Movie, Language, Subtitles, Scenes Selection, Special Features there is a sound (FX) of reloading gun when browsing Menu and when choosing any option there is a gun shot (after confirming our option).

When playing via Dune, this gun shot audio is cut off, it's not fully played.
I play the same copy on my PC with TotalMedia Theatre 3 and here is everything OK, gun shot is fully played.

Dune HD Base 3.0 cannot handle playing audio sound under Menu of Blu-Rays?
Why it's cutting off sound?

Thank you in advance for any solution.

Sincerely

ScottJ

04-01-10, 06:33 PM

When playing via Dune, this gun shot audio is cut off, it's not fully played.
I play the same copy on my PC with TotalMedia Theatre 3 and here is everything OK, gun shot is fully played.

Dune HD Base 3.0 cannot handle playing audio sound under Menu of Blu-Rays?
Why it's cutting off sound?

What audio output are you using on the Dune? Analog, digital toslink, or HDMI?

It could be that your receiver takes some time to acquire the audio signal.

I know, for example, when I changed from a Yamaha to a Denon receiver, it changed the audio behavior for my TiVo, connected via optical toslink. After I fast forward or rewind, the Denon takes a little longer to pick up the audio after I press play.

Do you have a standalone Blu-ray player? Try connecting it to your receiver using the same method as the Dune is connected. Play Black Hawk Down from the Blu-ray disc and see if you have the same problem there.

Mike:SH

04-01-10, 07:40 PM

Daniel Tonks

04-01-10, 10:07 PM

jrolmstd

04-01-10, 11:25 PM

Still cant get this to run. It seems to be completely ignoring the XML template which is stored in the location mentioned above on my WHS box, although mine is called Template1080P.xml.

Can anyone post a known working copy of that XML?

I gotz a WHS box too. If you are running your Dune updates from server with the myMoives addon (I used to but it killed my box for anything else until it was done) then the XML should be on the WHS but again, it could be in multiple locations (different installs of myMovies products or different options). Look for it and double check the file you think is being used is right.

Better yet, in each of the XML files has a name attribute at the top of the file. For example, mine has <Name>HDI Dune petits icones</Name> .

Change this name to anything else, save it and go into where you are executing the Dune update from. You should see the new name as an option now that can be selected. If not, you are in the wrong XML file.

Note: if you are running the collection manager from a PC and executing the dune update from there, your XML will be found on the PC, not on the WHS.

Don't worry about getting a working XML file until you can correctly identify the XML file being used. When you say your changes are being ignored it strongly suggests what you are changing is not what is being referenced by the Dune update...

VAMET

04-02-10, 01:10 AM

Dear ScottJ

What audio output are you using on the Dune? Analog, digital toslink, or HDMI?

It could be that your receiver takes some time to acquire the audio signal.

I know, for example, when I changed from a Yamaha to a Denon receiver, it changed the audio behavior for my TiVo, connected via optical toslink. After I fast forward or rewind, the Denon takes a little longer to pick up the audio after I press play.

Do you have a standalone Blu-ray player? Try connecting it to your receiver using the same method as the Dune is connected. Play Black Hawk Down from the Blu-ray disc and see if you have the same problem there.

I use HDMI, and I have got Sony BDP-S350 - BD Player, there is no problem with Black Hawk Down, when I play from this player.
The only problem is with Dune and I am 10000% sure of it.
My question is not which device produce error, but why and how to resolve this problem on Dune.

My Onkyo TX-SR606 has nothing to do with that, I have also PS3 connected to Onkyo and Black Hawk Down is played with no problems.

Sincerely

Techaholic

04-02-10, 09:17 AM

Techaholic, I just tried this with my USB stick as a System Storage and the menu on Inglorious Basterds does not jump around on me. I can control it fine.

Maybe it is your remote (e.g. batteries)?

Thx, no my batteries are fine, it would seem the USB system stuff got corrupted, the Dune is a fussy beast, it often has HDMI handshake issues.

LxT

04-02-10, 11:09 AM

I believe one of them describes how the movie will show in the directory listing (cover art), while the subdirectory is for the movie description that appears when you select the movie from the listing.

For a more comprehensive documentation of dune_folder.txt, you might want to have a look at post #101 on

www <dot> mpcclub <dot> com

in thread:
Navigation » MPC Club Community Board > Media Player Section > 2009/2010 Generation Sigma Based > HDI 3.0 Base and BD Prime (SMP8642) » dune_folder.txt

(would have posted the URL, but new members can not, which I understand)

LxT

blackssr

04-02-10, 11:12 AM

Anyone else having lipsync issues with MKVs?

I've been noticing that the vast majority of MKVs require some sometimes serious adjusting to get lipsync in check. This doesn't happen on any of my other devices, and the amount needed varies by the file. Some are just slightly out of sync, while the most recent file I played took a -0.23 second adjustment.

Setup is HDMI to Pioneer Kuro, and Optical to a Marantz SR9600.

Some experience issues with sync when running optical and HDMI. I have tested on my own and confirmed this. I run HDMI only from Dune to Denon 5308CI and have no issues with sync. During initial testing I did get sync issues when splitting the Audio and Video. The Processing delay of different componants is the culprit here. I did notice with ripped ISOs verses MKVs the sync is much less problematic. Please note with HDMI only, I have never experienced any sync issues at all.

Can you just run HDMI to TV and test if sync improved. This will confirm above statement.

ScottJ

04-02-10, 12:51 PM

For a more comprehensive documentation of dune_folder.txt, you might want to have a look at post #101 on

A link to your post on mpcclub (http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182437&postcount=101).

More importantly, a link to your dune_folder.txt documentation (http://www.multiupload.com/DQQPPJFYOB). It looks very helpful. Thanks a bunch.

spiderv6

04-02-10, 04:32 PM

I gotz a WHS box too. If you are running your Dune updates from server with the myMoives addon (I used to but it killed my box for anything else until it was done) then the XML should be on the WHS but again, it could be in multiple locations (different installs of myMovies products or different options). Look for it and double check the file you think is being used is right.

Better yet, in each of the XML files has a name attribute at the top of the file. For example, mine has <Name>HDI Dune petits icones</Name> .

Change this name to anything else, save it and go into where you are executing the Dune update from. You should see the new name as an option now that can be selected. If not, you are in the wrong XML file.

Note: if you are running the collection manager from a PC and executing the dune update from there, your XML will be found on the PC, not on the WHS.

Don't worry about getting a working XML file until you can correctly identify the XML file being used. When you say your changes are being ignored it strongly suggests what you are changing is not what is being referenced by the Dune update...

Thanks, that was helpful and confirmed that I was using the xml file I thought I was. I uninstalled MyMovies and reinstalled (again!!) and now it is working again (go figure) with the exception of the Indexing part which seems to fail about 90% of the time as far as I can tell. I'll wait and eventually it will start to work again.

I know they plan to work on better integration with Dune in the next version.

bob13654

04-02-10, 04:36 PM

Just got my Dune player. This thing is great. A quick question though. I have the DVDs and BDs that I have ripped so far in .iso format. When I go to play a BD it loads up the disc as if I put the disc into my Panny BD60. When I load a DVD the first time it goes to the menu just like putting the disc in a player, but when I hit stop and go back to the file it starts where I left off. Is there a way to turn that off? I know this is a small issue and I can easily just go to chapter one, or hit menu and start over, but I would like to know that if I go back to a file 6 months from now, it won't start in the middle of the film.

Oh, one other thing. I don't think it's on the beta firmware. Any reason to upgrade at this point? Everything seems to be working and I'd hate to screw that up.

chance6021

04-02-10, 04:49 PM

jrolmstd

04-02-10, 05:06 PM

Thanks, that was helpful and confirmed that I was using the xml file I thought I was. I uninstalled MyMovies and reinstalled (again!!) and now it is working again (go figure) with the exception of the Indexing part which seems to fail about 90% of the time as far as I can tell. I'll wait and eventually it will start to work again.

I know they plan to work on better integration with Dune in the next version.

LOL, and I bet those indexing failures are because the file is in use right?

Ignore the little man behind the curtain and check the myMovie log file. Most times the file is in use message means something more like -- there was some kinda of problem and things got too mucked up to continue.

Most of mine was because I had changed a directory name and not got it updated correctly in myMovies.

The logs are verbose in their listing. I would recommend always clearing the logs before starting a update.

FYI, I am setting here responding to this as I converting 600+ movie folders over to Dune Explorer 2.0. myMovies Dune solution was able to be developed only from the generosity of Dune users and forums supporting Dune as the author does not even own last I knew.

It could have been a great product for Dune maintenance. Instead I found myself fighting it when it came to the details and waiting for it to get done...

Wish ya luck...

bob13654

04-02-10, 06:36 PM

Alright. I ended up putting the Beta firmware on the player, mostly because of slow speeds on my BD rip causing stuttering. I have only ripped one BD so far to test out. The disc was Transformers ROTF and I used DVDFab to rip it to an iso on my server. The disc loads and plays fine, but near the end of the movie if I try to fast forward the player locks up.

After the firmware upgrade, I turned on fast SMB sharing. I ran a speed test and I am getting anywhere from 9.5-10.5 MBs on the read test. Prior to turning on the fast sharing I was averaging 7 MBs. I am streaming from a HP MSS ex495 running WHS. Does this sound like a speed problem or a problem with the rip? I know many here love Any DVD, but I have used Fab for years on DVD rips and been satisfied. Any help?

mlknez

04-02-10, 08:19 PM

Hi Bob,

I am using DVDFab 7 and it seems to work well. I just rip the main title of the movie generally. AnyDVD works fine too.

ChrisMilne

04-02-10, 11:03 PM

MyMovies will create the metadata files in the respective folder of each movie, so as long as those files are in the HDD/USB Drive you plan on using you will be fine (you still need to have a PC running with access to your movie collection to use MyMovies)

How does Dune point to Mymovies? I know how to use mymovies on my pc/whs...just not how/where Dune connects to it?

When i turn on the Dune, how do i start browsing movies with the mymovies UI?

Thanks.

bruin95

04-03-10, 12:35 AM

How does Dune point to Mymovies? I know how to use mymovies on my pc/whs...just not how/where Dune connects to it?

When i turn on the Dune, how do i start browsing movies with the mymovies UI?

Thanks.

The index file My Movies creates should be on the drive where your movies are stored. The "UI" is in that index file. Select that index file when using the dune. Also, the metadata for each movie is stored in that movie's folder.

MaxBurn

04-03-10, 07:10 AM

LOL, and I bet those indexing failures are because the file is in use right?

Ignore the little man behind the curtain and check the myMovie log file. Most times the file is in use message means something more like -- there was some kinda of problem and things got too mucked up to continue.

Most of mine was because I had changed a directory name and not got it updated correctly in myMovies.

The logs are verbose in their listing. I would recommend always clearing the logs before starting a update.

I have looked off and on but I still haven't found this log file, currently using collection management from another computer separate from WHS. Anyone know what the path to the log file is, does not seem to be with the application of course...

ChrisMilne

04-03-10, 08:00 AM

The index file My Movies creates should be on the drive where your movies are stored. The "UI" is in that index file. Select that index file when using the dune. Also, the metadata for each movie is stored in that movie's folder.

I'm not really sure what you mean. If i go in and browse down to the folder i can't select the dune txt file if thats what you mean. There is some sort of UI if i just select the folder with my videos, but it doesnt look like the my movies i've seen on win media center or screenshots here. It has most of the covert art (but not some that i'm sure are setup in mymovies) and it gives the description but like i said its not like the mymovies UI i'm used to.

EDIT: I guess it is using the mymovies but it does not look like the screenshots i've seen online for the Dune/Mymovies, those looked like the windows media ones. Are they customizing it somehow?

MaxBurn

04-03-10, 12:28 PM

No, I need the location for the error log file that is created when the my movies app fails at making the dune index folder updates. mymovies fails every time for me when I tell it to create index.

spiderv6

04-03-10, 01:33 PM

No, I need the location for the error log file that is created when the my movies app fails at making the dune index folder updates. mymovies fails every time for me when I tell it to create index.

are you using WHS?

spiderv6

04-03-10, 02:18 PM

I'm not really sure what you mean. If i go in and browse down to the folder i can't select the dune txt file if thats what you mean. There is some sort of UI if i just select the folder with my videos, but it doesnt look like the my movies i've seen on win media center or screenshots here. It has most of the covert art (but not some that i'm sure are setup in mymovies) and it gives the description but like i said its not like the mymovies UI i'm used to.

EDIT: I guess it is using the mymovies but it does not look like the screenshots i've seen online for the Dune/Mymovies, those looked like the windows media ones. Are they customizing it somehow?

From your Dune home screen you need to set up a network path direct to where your movies are stored. For example your movies may be in \\hpserver\movies and you would set a network path link to 'movies' on 'hpserver' on your home screen.

If you have the correct dune_folder.txt file generated and the corresponding folder.jpg and fanart.jpg inside each folder you should already be looking at a colorful UI. To have the correct dune_folder.txt file, you need to be using the correct XML template to generate those files in the first place. You also need to have made the changes in the Dune settings page to tell it to use icons and not lists.

fcwilt

04-03-10, 02:38 PM

I'm not really sure what you mean. If i go in and browse down to the folder i can't select the dune txt file...

When you setup MyMovies you needed to tell it where to create the MyMovies Dune compatible index structure? Right?

Let's say your movie content is stored on a server called MyServer, in a directory called MovieContent and is accessible via a share called Movies.

If you configure the Dune settings in MyMovies to create the index structure at \\MyServer\Movies then MyMovies will create a Folder called (by default) MyMovies in that share.

When you configure your Dune to view you movies you would use the share \\MyServer\Movies. When you viewed this share using your Dune you would see the folder MovieContent and the folder MyMovies. If you then open the MyMovies folder you will see the top level of the MyMovies created index structure, such as folders called "All Movies", "Genres", etc.

You can, of course, open the folder MovieContent and you will see your movie content "directly", bypassing the MyMovies index features.

MaxBurn

04-03-10, 02:56 PM

are you using WHS?

Can you tell me the log file location for both?

I am using WHS but I am running my movies externally on another computer now. I started out with the WHS my movies plugin and that didn't work either.

jrolmstd

04-03-10, 03:21 PM

I have looked off and on but I still haven't found this log file, currently using collection management from another computer separate from WHS. Anyone know what the path to the log file is, does not seem to be with the application of course...

In My Movies - Collection Manager and under - help.debug.open log or help.debug.open.log directory

bruin95

04-03-10, 06:27 PM

FPPeterson

04-04-10, 03:55 PM

...

FYI, I am setting here responding to this as I converting 600+ movie folders over to Dune Explorer 2.0. myMovies Dune solution was able to be developed only from the generosity of Dune users and forums supporting Dune as the author does not even own last I knew.

It could have been a great product for Dune maintenance. Instead I found myself fighting it when it came to the details and waiting for it to get done...

Wish ya luck...

I'm at a similar point having tired of the tyranny of the database and the hopeless indexing mechanism I've stopped adding new titles and am now looking at alternatives.

I'd be interested to know what led you to decide on Dune Explorer versus YaDis, Zappiti etc as a replacement for MM?

Mike:SH

04-04-10, 04:34 PM

jrolmstd

04-04-10, 05:40 PM

I'm at a similar point having tired of the tyranny of the database and the hopeless indexing mechanism I've stopped adding new titles and am now looking at alternatives.

I'd be interested to know what led you to decide on Dune Explorer versus YaDis, Zappiti etc as a replacement for MM?

What drew me to Dune Explorer was simply two things, the speed of using the application to update the Dune files and the flexibility of the directory structure that it supported.

To be honest, I did not spend much time with the other alternatives other than to D/L them and delete them. I am sure they have the pros and cons too but the thing that impressed me about Dune Explorer was they had people using it that could not read French when it did not have a English version even out yet.

This told me two things, the tool was intuitive in its design and delivered a quality product. Why else would people be willing to use something that they could not even read the screens for?

I got involved with the tool after the release of DE 2.0 had added support for English. Since then the author has proven to be very receptive to suggested program enhancements and quick to stomp on what few bugs were found.

Long running issues that I had with Dune's presentation of higher level categories was easily resolved at the directory level once I got away from a tool that mandated directory structure. Collections of movies (series or releases) went from a 1/2 dozen or more steps (never did work 100% for me) to simply creating the sub-directories needed.

While Dune Explorer does not generate indexes, a review of how I wanted to organize/use my own movies reveled I really did not need to select movies by run time, date released, etc. What I was looking for was a higher level, Holiday, Vs Kids Stuff, Vs everything else. These were easy to setup in a directory structure and Dune Explorer and no issue at all with it , imagine that :)

The final thing that drew me to Dune Explorer was the layout of the Synopsis page. It simply blew away what myMovies was generating.

Like the other tools, My Movies has its pros and cons but for me, updates that took hours to complete and draconian rules about directory structures were deal breakers. Once I found something that gave me the flexibility and performance I needed I was done with it. I backed up my DB one last time and said goodbye...

Dune Explorer 2.0 (http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23178)

bluewhale1

04-04-10, 06:10 PM

jrolmstd

04-04-10, 06:31 PM

I have been playing with Dune Explorer and Zappiti. I really like the template that Zappiti uses. The background it uses is dark enough so that words are easier to read. Sometimes Dune Explorer yadis like template for instance can clash with the background like The Minority report dependent upon which background you use. I wound up changing the template fonts to all white. As of now Dune Explorer is what im going to use. I as well don't need/like the index feature. Also i don't know when but they(Dune Explorer guys) are going to add new templates.

Most of the Synopsis pages I set up utilize a dark background just because of the same issue you pointed out. DE supports multiple providers allowing you to have a wider selection of background, synopsis, and icon art. Icon art I try to match the cover of the DVD. Synopsis I like the poster style, and background I am looking for something not too busy and darker if possible.

FPPeterson

04-04-10, 08:10 PM

@jrolmstd:

Thanks for taking the trouble to explain your rationale.

I am currently experimenting with YaDIS which seems to coming along very nicely with regular useful updates and had frankly ruled out DE because of its lack of an indexing capability.

But your remarks about DE's flexible approach to directory structure obviating the need for indexing entirely are very interesting and I shall be taking another look at DE. Like you I have little need for sorting by year of release, parental rating etc and if if the directory structure can be arranged to align with broad categories or genres that will be enough for my needs.

Thanks again for the thoughtful comments.

ChrisMilne

04-04-10, 09:00 PM

When you're using your dune to scroll through all your movies, do you see a folder called index? Select the index folder and you'll see the My Movies UI like you want it. If you don't have an index folder, you didn't set up My Movies properly.

After messing around with the metadata updating in the WHS console i finally see the files you're talking about...unfortunately when i open them they are empty. I see the genres, year, etc but none of them have anything in them when i click on them. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong?

ChrisMilne

04-04-10, 09:03 PM

Eric Porter

04-05-10, 03:27 PM

CCONKLIN1

04-05-10, 04:35 PM

FPPeterson

04-05-10, 07:11 PM

... FYI, I am setting here responding to this as I converting 600+ movie folders over to Dune Explorer 2.0. ...

Well I've installed DE 2.0 and ran some tests with a few titles, looks promising so far.

Could I ask you to outline the process that you followed for the bulk conversion process of your MM-indexed folders. Was this a manual process or did you come up with a batch tool for it? What is involved beyond (presumably) creating a new multi-level directory structure and moving over the video files/images? I'm assuming that you'd also need to strip out all the files that MM has created in the folders although some presumably will be re-made when DE goes through its process.

dextius

04-05-10, 08:17 PM

I have a Yamaha RX-V2700 (I read the thread about the guy having problems with bitstream, but my issues are a little deeper).

I threw in "The blind side" blu-ray into the internal drive.

1. I get video but no audio using HDMI.
2. I tried disabling HDMI audio under settings and using TOS link, it did not work.
3. I tried disabling HDMI audio under settings and using Red/White stereo, it did not work.
4. I unplugged the HDMI connection, and plugged in component cables for video, and still using red/white for audio, and it worked.

My only guess at this point is that it is a firmware issue with my receiver. But I'm not sure.

Next.. IPTV / Internet radio. I went to settings and selected "yes" to display in the menu, but neither show up. I can't find the photo viewer either. I verified that the device was able to dhcp an IP off my dd-wrt based linksys NAT. And where is the photo viewer? Does it only kick in when I connect to my samba share and click an image? Same with the web browser, I saw it on demos on youtube, but it's MIA as well?

The menu doesn't seem to cover any of this, and I've been digging through these forums looking for a general "here's how you set this thing up out of the box" thread, but didn't see one.

All in all, very frustrating initial experience. I hope I can get all this figured out. Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers!

ChrisMilne

04-05-10, 08:20 PM

I would love to be able to use something simple like metabrowser and then find something to create the dune indexes from those files.

ArthurPower

04-05-10, 08:59 PM

MaxBurn

04-05-10, 09:06 PM

In My Movies - Collection Manager and under - help.debug.open log or help.debug.open.log directory

Thanks, I will have to fine time between travel to look into it.

ArthurPower

04-05-10, 09:13 PM

I just got a 2GB usb flash drive. I ran the initalize dsf and it made the USB system storage. I still could not get Jennifer's Body Bluray to load.

Now I have a question. If I remove the USB, I don't see any system storage. Isn't there supposed to be some built in? Hope I did not screw things up by trying to add USB storage.

Thanks in advance

You can not screw anything up by trying to add system storage. Yes, there is some memory built into the unit. The information page will only show if a USB system storage device is in place.

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

Eric Porter

04-05-10, 11:39 PM

Do you have system storage (2gb USB flash drive)? Although it's purposes is primarily for BD live content some Blu-rays require it to even start playing.

No, I don't have one. I'll pick up a stick tomorrow and give that a try. Thanks for the advise!

GotHDTV?

04-05-10, 11:59 PM

I just got my Dune Base over the weekend and spent most of the day Saturday playing with it and setting it up. Once I figured out a few hangups with the help of going back through this forum I have got all of my rips playing fine with full menus with the exception of the new Toy Story 1 and 2 Blue Rays I bought a couple of weeks ago.

When I hit the play on the file the player seems like it is trying to start the file but I just get a row of zeros on the display and the screen stays blank. Hitting play, ff, rw or chapter buttons after that give me an unable to execute command message and nothing else.

I am doing full disc rips with folders using DVDFab7 but also tried to do one as an .iso and had the same results.

Has anyone had success or problems with these?

Arthur, I don't think it is an internal storage issue. I think it is a BD+ issue. This happen to me with Jennifer's Body, Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel (both Fox), and the Toy Stories (of course Disney). I could not play them (on my Dune or on my Computer with Nero Showtime) and had to convert with clownBD. Then I realized it must be BD+ and have not experimented with keeping the AACS.

Eric, when you do DVDfab are you keeping the AACS folder? When I did the AnyDVD backups, I just let it rip (and it does not keep the AACS folder). My friend like to do a straight copy from windows and that keeps the AACS folder (but turns it into the folder name to "any!" with AnyDVD). I can't try this until the weekend, but can you try with yours to keep the AACS intacted and try it again?

If you can't do that with DVDfab, the latest trial AnyDVD should have those movies.

Let us know.

Eric Porter

04-07-10, 12:08 AM

No, I don't have one. I'll pick up a stick tomorrow and give that a try. Thanks for the advise!

Do you have system storage (2gb USB flash drive)? Although it's purposes is primarily for BD live content some Blu-rays require it to even start playing.

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

I picked up a 2gb USB stick today, formatted it and gave it a try. No luck with Toy Story 1 or 2 and also found the same problem with the Big Trouble in Little China BR that I ripped today.

I did try copying over the AACS folder but that didn't seem to make a difference.

I'm also running into some issues with a few DVD menus not working properly, is this common?

ScottJ

04-07-10, 12:20 AM

When I hit the play on the file the player seems like it is trying to start the file but I just get a row of zeros on the display and the screen stays blank. Hitting play, ff, rw or chapter buttons after that give me an unable to execute command message and nothing else.

I had that problem just now with some rips that used to work. I power cycled the Dune (hard power button, not just standby), and it worked fine after that.

GotHDTV?

04-07-10, 09:21 AM

I picked up a 2gb USB stick today, formatted it and gave it a try. No luck with Toy Story 1 or 2 and also found the same problem with the Big Trouble in Little China BR that I ripped today.

I did try copying over the AACS folder but that didn't seem to make a difference.

Yeah, it must be BD+ because Big Trouble in Little China is a Fox movie (and they love using BD+). That sucks copying the AACS did not work. I guess we have to convert those type of discs (to movie only) and have no menu support. I'll still try and see this weekend with Anydvd since you are using DVDfab.

Eric Porter

04-07-10, 04:04 PM

Yeah, it must be BD+ because Big Trouble in Little China is a Fox movie (and they love using BD+). That sucks copying the AACS did not work. I guess we have to convert those type of discs (to movie only) and have no menu support. I'll still try and see this weekend with Anydvd since you are using DVDfab.

It doesn't appear that Toy story has BD+. At lunch time today I tried decoding it with DVDFab6 which does not support BD+ titles and it had no trouble ripping it. I'll try Big Trouble when I get home to check on that. I do know that two BR's that I burned definitely are BD+ because I used the Anydvd trial to rip them before DVDFab7 came out and I'm not having any problems playing those.

jrolmstd

04-07-10, 08:58 PM

Anyone else seeing/hearing audio drop outs or video freezing on Blu-rays? Using SMB and speed test shows solid 11 MBs through out the test.:confused:

thanks

ScottJ

04-07-10, 09:14 PM

Anyone else seeing/hearing audio drop outs or video freezing on Blu-rays? Using SMB and speed test shows solid 11 MBs through out the test.:confused:

thanks

I've had audio dropouts, but not like you describe. It just goes silent while the video keeps playing. If I rewind a bit and play again, it comes back and keeps working.

I'm playing BD iso's with HD audio over HDMI.

jrolmstd

04-07-10, 09:38 PM

I've had audio dropouts, but not like you describe. It just goes silent while the video keeps playing. If I rewind a bit and play again, it comes back and keeps working.

I'm playing BD iso's with HD audio over HDMI.

thanks for the response, I will have to check out the impact of rewinding.

What I see only last for a couple of seconds at most. Just enough to be a distraction.

I am using ClownBD to create an abbreviated iso file. (No lead ins, no menus, single audio of my choice - unconverted)...

Eric Porter

04-08-10, 02:11 AM

I picked up a 2gb USB stick today, formatted it and gave it a try. No luck with Toy Story 1 or 2 and also found the same problem with the Big Trouble in Little China BR that I ripped today.

I did try copying over the AACS folder but that didn't seem to make a difference.

I'm also running into some issues with a few DVD menus not working properly, is this common?

I decided tonight to give Anydvd another try and they are all working so the problem appears to be something with the way DVDFab is decrypting the discs. When I did Big Trouble it did say the it was a BD+ disc but didn't notice with the Toy Stories.

GotHDTV?

04-08-10, 08:32 AM

I decided tonight to give Anydvd another try and they are all working so the problem appears to be something with the way DVDFab is decrypting the discs. When I did Big Trouble it did say the it was a BD+ disc but didn't notice with the Toy Stories.

You're able to play the Toy Stories now? I was on the latest (AnyDVD 6.6.3.0) when discs came out (about 2 weeks ago) and (like I said before) I couldn't get it to play as disc with the Dune or Nero Showtime. Interesting, I'll have to try it later as I installed 6.6.3.2 (released 3-31) on Sunday .

Alto101

04-08-10, 09:58 AM

I would like to order the Prime model but noticed that Duneplayer.com is currently out of stock. Does anyone know the ETA for more units to be available? After reading all the contributions that they have made to this thread and with helping people out, I want to give them my business.

On a side note, can someone help me out with an issue I am having with my Synology NAS? When I use the Synology Assistant to map the shared folders to my PC, I check the box to reconnect at login and to save my login credentials. However, everytime I restart my computer it shows the shared drives but I cannot browse them without entering my username/password again.

Next question relating the Dune and my NAS. I have the DS-209 model and used 2, 1.5TB harddrives. I set each drive up in basic mode. As I understand the Dune player with the Movie Magic addon, I will need to have all of my movie files in one main folder with a subfolder for each movie. As I run out of space on my first drive, how do I add movies to the second drive and have Movie Magic see them?

Thanks for any and all help:)

Daveyd

04-08-10, 12:16 PM

I know we have discussed the spped of file transfers in here before so I'll ask another quick question...

Does anyone else notice speed degradation when copying large ISOs from a Win7 box to Home server?

When I copy a 3-5GB iso or .m2ts file from Win7 to my home server over a Gb backbone, I get around 100MB/s speeds. However, when I copy a 30-40GB iso, I only get around 14-20MB/s.

I know Win7 uses SMB2 and Home server (2003) uses SMB1 but why such the speed difference between the 2 file sizes.

I read about disabling Remote Differential Compression in Win7, which I did, but it did not have any effect.

Anyone else experiencing this issue? I would like to get my transfer spped of large isos to match the smaller ones :)

JRW-910

04-08-10, 02:15 PM

Eric Porter

04-08-10, 10:54 PM

You're able to play the Toy Stories now? I was on the latest (AnyDVD 6.6.3.0) when discs came out (about 2 weeks ago) and (like I said before) I couldn't get it to play as disc with the Dune or Nero Showtime. Interesting, I'll have to try it later as I installed 6.6.3.2 (released 3-31) on Sunday .

Yes, Toy Story 1 and 2 plus Big Trouble in Little China are both playing fine now. I also reran the DVD's I was having endless loops with the menus and it seems to have cleared that up as well. I've never had similar problems burning discs from backups with DVDFab so I am not sure what the issue was but happy that this cleared it up. This was using the 6.6.3.2 version.

I am having another issue getting a folder to map using the SMB protocol. I have two computers on my network and was able to easily set up the one where all my DVD's and BR's are stored but I tried doing it for my other computer that has my recorded TV shows stored and it won't connect. I have it set up the same as the other folder and the share permissions are also the same but when I try to connect to it I get a message saying the Network Resource is not accessible. I can get to it using the UPnP browser but would like to have a folder on the main page to cut down on the steps.

Eric Porter

04-10-10, 12:26 AM

I finally got my folder to connect after messing around with it some more. Not totally sure what was the final solution to get it to work but it's all good now. Thanks to everyone that has posted tips in this thread, it has been a lot of help getting me up and running. :)

jrolmstd

04-10-10, 10:03 AM

bluewhale1

04-10-10, 06:02 PM

Does anyone with a Dune and using a Whs have any trouble rewinding? If i an using an external hard drive(usb) it fine. Right now im testing a Whs and if i hit rewind it take a while to start and when it does it very slow. Read speeds yield me 11MB/s from my server.

Anyone using a Nas do you have this problem? What is everyone read speed average?

bluewhale1

04-11-10, 09:38 AM

jrolmstd

04-11-10, 04:17 PM

Has anyone used this method for nfs mount on your Dune with a Windows Home Server?

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2009/12/11/guide-setting-up-nfs-in-whs/

if you did and have it working what did you enter in your dune to connect to the mount? I can't access the folder.

I spent days trying to get a stable NFS connection set up and finally walked away from it.

I went with SMB. Supported in windows be default and stupid simple to set up. Rock solid 11 meg connection...

Killroy™

04-11-10, 04:22 PM

I spent days trying to get a stable NFS connection set up and finally walked away from it.

I went with SMB. Supported in windows be default and stupid simple to set up. Rock solid 11 meg connection...

Silly question... why is SMB so slow on the Sigma units when I can easily get 3-4X that between my slowest PC's?

jrolmstd

04-11-10, 04:35 PM

Silly question... why is SMB so slow on the Sigma units when I can easily get 3-4X that between my slowest PC's?

Wish I knew. I am to the point I am thinking it has more to do with the WHS than the Dune player...

bluewhale1

04-11-10, 04:44 PM

I finally got Allegro Nfs to work on the Windows Home Server. I couldn't get the mediasmartserver guide to work. I was having trouble rewinding with smb. rewind works fine for some reason with Nfs even though i get a solid 11MB/s as well. Copying my movies as i type.

Opentoe

04-11-10, 05:35 PM

bluewhale1

04-11-10, 06:27 PM

Allegro NFS has been very nice to me also and works great with the Dune. It amazes me how long and tedious the Microsoft way to add NFS. Then you can get a utility that installs and can be configured in seconds. Yay Allegro!

On Windows 7 it was easier than it was for Windows Home server for me. I had to add the program(Allegro) as an exception in windows firewall. Took me a little while to figure it out. im still thinking about e getting a nas like the Drobo fs or the Synology 710+. Hopefully setting up nfs mount will be easier

mlknez

04-12-10, 04:47 PM

bluewhale1

04-13-10, 03:45 AM

If you are thinking of getting a stand-alone NAS, you should consider the Netgear ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer. Very mature product, well supported, very fast, constantly updated and easy for all popular network protocols.

I was thinking about either a Synology 710+ or the 1010+ (both can use the add on 510+ unit for more storage space for the future) or the new Drobo Fs. i admit i don't know a lot about nas boxes. What do you own the ReadyNAS Pro and if so what read speeds are you getting from you Dune.

MonkeySnax

04-13-10, 08:16 AM

check out http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas for some decent reviews etc. I've have an Iomega Storcenter ix4-200d and an Intel SS4200-E both use the EMC lifeline software. Between those two the Intel box is faster but quirkier.

As far as streaming HD content (1080P) both do it just fine with no stuttering etc. I did move both NAS boxes and my media player to the same switch (HP Procurve 1400G-8) to improve performance over the switch built into my router.

Kir

04-13-10, 01:00 PM

Silly question... why is SMB so slow on the Sigma units when I can easily get 3-4X that between my slowest PC's?

SMS has a lot of overhead, that relatively weak Sigma CPUs are not capable of handling at top speed.
I would suggest installing NFS on your Windows computer, as it's native for the flavor of Linux that runs on Sigmas.

GotHDTV?

04-13-10, 01:37 PM

Setup: HDI Prme, bdprime3_100307_2100_beta and HJ95 optical drive firmware.

Drag me to Hell & Armored. Neither one worked right.

Both started to load then popped up a message saying the load was aborting.

Watched both movies with the PS3 without issue.

'bout ready to trade the Prime in and get a base unit and go with standalone Player. I see no indication this is ready for prime time several months after its release :mad:

You can't compare support for the PS3. A lot BD discs have a PS3 folder on the disc to make sure that it plays right (as the PS3 is the most sold BD player out there and they want to make sure that the PS3 is compatible with their discs). Look at the mighty Oppo BDP-83, which a lot people agree is one of the best BD players out there. There have been several occassions where it needed updates to play new BD discs.

Daveyd

04-13-10, 09:16 PM

GotHDTV?

04-13-10, 10:54 PM

Yes, Toy Story 1 and 2 plus Big Trouble in Little China are both playing fine now. I also reran the DVD's I was having endless loops with the menus and it seems to have cleared that up as well. I've never had similar problems burning discs from backups with DVDFab so I am not sure what the issue was but happy that this cleared it up. This was using the 6.6.3.2 version.

Wierd thing. I just tried Toy Story again after backing it up with AnyDVD6.6.3.2 and my Nero Showtime could not play it. I said what the hell and tried to play it with my Dune Prime 3.0 and it played just like a disc. Then for the hell of it after that, I tried playing my Toy Story2 that was backed up with AnyDVD 6.6.3.0 and played like a disc too. I say this is wierd because like I said before both Toy Stories did not play at all and froze on my Prime(when I used the AnyDVD 6.6.3.0 and I had system storage). Oh well, at least it works for some reason now.

Eric Porter

04-14-10, 08:21 AM

For DVD FAB users...when ripping a Blu Ray disc it does a scan before letting me choose anything. After the scanning is done, I select Main Movie then uncheck all the 5.1 audio and non English subs and it scans again. What's the purpose of all the scanning?

I think it's from the preview window down in the left hand corner. Try shutting that down and see if it only scans once.

Daveyd

04-14-10, 12:20 PM

I think it's from the preview window down in the left hand corner. Try shutting that down and see if it only scans once.

I already had the preview window disabled. It scans twice. Once with a blue bar when I first insert the disc and then once at the bottom of the GUI when I deselect subs and audio

mlknez

04-14-10, 07:25 PM

Eureka!!!

I am finally able to wirelessly stream Blu-ray and other hi bitrate files. Secret Sauce recipe:

1 Linksys wrt610n Wireless router/access point (dual band)
1 Cisco wet610n Wireless game adapter (actually a wireless n bridge)
1 Dune Base 3.0 with latest firmware

connect the bridge to the Dune ethernet port
configure the router to use 5Ghz n-only mode. Turn on WMM QoS (video)
configure the bridge to use 5Ghz WMM QoS enabled
configure the dune to use NFS with TCP for your share

Even with a 25% signal quality, I get 7MBps on the read test!!!! That equates to 56Mbps or more than enough for even the most demanding video.

p.s. I tried using a belkin 1Gbps HD networking over power solution and still got less than 30Mbps steady throughput over the same distance.

jrolmstd

04-14-10, 09:36 PM

Eureka!!!

I am finally able to wirelessly stream Blu-ray and other hi bitrate files. Secret Sauce recipie:

1 Linksys wrt610n Wireless router/access point (dual band)
1 Cisco wet610n Wireless game adapter (actually a wireless n bridge)
1 Dune Base 3.0 with latest firmware

connect the bridge to the Dune ethernet port
configure the router to use 5Ghz n-only mode. Turn on WMM QoS (video)
configure the bridge to use 5Ghz WMM QoS enabled
configure the dune to use NFS with TCP for your share

Even with a 25% signal quality, I get 7MBps on the read test!!!! That equates to 56Mbps or more than enough for even the most demanding video.

p.s. I tried using a belkin 1Gbps HD networking over power solution and still got less than 30Mbps steady throughput over the same distance.

I am running a wired connection that is testing out at 11 MBps using SMB and still get audio and video drop outs (very short lived but irritating just the same). Wish luck with 7 MBps...

mlknez

04-14-10, 10:08 PM

My wired connection to my Prime is working full speed (11MBps) and have not had stuttering issues. So far the wireless to the Base is solid too.

blackssr

04-15-10, 12:58 AM

I am running a wired connection that is testing out at 11 MBps using SMB and still get audio and video drop outs (very short lived but irritating just the same). Wish luck with 7 MBps...

When you tested, did you let the test complete? Watch for dips in speed... It has to be your network... At 11MB/s it should not drop at all. 11MB/s is 88mb/s, more than enough speed for any BD movie out now.

Mr.Panda

04-15-10, 02:44 PM

videohot

04-15-10, 02:57 PM

I tried to install from the side usb port and it would say invalid file after restarts etc. When I tried from one of the back usb ports it saw it as valid.

Larry

Mr.Panda

04-15-10, 03:05 PM

Ha!

Yes I was trying from the side today but think we tried the back yesterday.

Will try the back again now.

Do I need to install all Firmware upgrades or just the latest one?
Did the Beta versions work for you?

Am I correct that the driver for my adapter is in the firmware upgrade?

Thank you,

Mr. Panda

Mr.Panda

04-15-10, 03:18 PM

Ok,

I have it in the back.

Which button do I use to install it from the remote?
Enter is not doing anything.

THank you.

Mr. Panda

cnelson87

04-15-10, 04:33 PM

I have around 50 HD-DVDs ripped and converted to Blu-Ray folder structure, keeping the primary HD audio and EN subtitle tracks. Apparently, most of them have eac3 audio. And apparently, eac3 is not Blu-Ray compatible. This was done quite some time ago using tsMuxeR before I found Clown_BD. Now, my PCH-A110 plays the video/audio from .m2ts files (more or less) just fine. However, I recently burned a couple backups to BD-R, and my PS3 played the video but not audio. After further research I made the discovery regarding eac3. I suppose I could re-convert everything with Clown_BD which exports eac3 to LPCM, if I had the time or inclination that is.
Assuming I don't care about burning backups to play on the PS3 (I do, but oh well...) my question is: Will the Dune play a Blu-Ray folder structure with eac3 audio? That would be sweet and might just be the deciding factor (after $$) on whether I buy one.
Thanks.

blackssr

04-15-10, 06:28 PM

jrolmstd

04-15-10, 09:36 PM

When you tested, did you let the test complete? Watch for dips in speed... It has to be your network... At 11MB/s it should not drop at all. 11MB/s is 88mb/s, more than enough speed for any BD movie out now.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I ran the test for the full 3 minutes. Reported speed never varied from the 11MB/s during the test.

blackssr

04-15-10, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I ran the test for the full 3 minutes. Reported speed never varied from the 11MB/s during the test.

3 Minutes?.. A 2 hour movie should take about 40 -45 minutes. This is an accurate test of line condition over the entire transfer of packets.

jrolmstd

04-15-10, 09:45 PM

3 Minutes?.. A 2 hour movie should take about 40 -45 minutes. This is an accurate test of line condition over the entire transfer of packets.

To clarify, the 11MB/s reported here is what the dune shows me running the 3 minute speed test.

peterjcat

04-16-10, 04:12 AM

No it will not. eac3 is only for HD DVD.. ClownBD will convert to LPCM and the Dune will play that.

Have you tried this on the Dune, or is it an assumption? DD+/EAC3 is also part of the Blu-ray specification, though it's slightly different to the HD DVD model (on BD it's core+extension and is typically used only for special features, if at all). The Popcorn Hour A-110 would (more or less) decode and bitstream both kinds of DD+/EAC3, and I've heard reports that the C-200 will at least bitstream it, so maybe it's possible on the Dune, or could be with some firmware tweaking?

If not: I don't know if it's possible with ClownBD (maybe not), but if you can convert DD+ to FLAC that would be a more efficient solution and the Dune will play it no problem.

blackssr

04-16-10, 06:54 AM

Have you tried this on the Dune, or is it an assumption? DD+/EAC3 is also part of the Blu-ray specification, though it's slightly different to the HD DVD model (on BD it's core+extension and is typically used only for special features, if at all). The Popcorn Hour A-110 would (more or less) decode and bitstream both kinds of DD+/EAC3, and I've heard reports that the C-200 will at least bitstream it, so maybe it's possible on the Dune, or could be with some firmware tweaking?

If not: I don't know if it's possible with ClownBD (maybe not), but if you can convert DD+ to FLAC that would be a more efficient solution and the Dune will play it no problem.

What BD movie has DD+? Name one and I will test it. As far as the Dune playing DD+ from HD DVD converted to BD folder structure files; I do not think it is possible due to the fact that no program converts DD+ from HD DVD to BD without converting to LPCM. If there is a program that does this let me know and I will test. I have 3 Dune players. FLAC is a waste of time.

Eric Porter

04-16-10, 09:15 AM

Last night I tried accessing the BD Live feature on The Dark Knight and got a message saying I didn't have a large enough storage device. I tried a couple of other discs and got the same message. I have a 2gb USB stick attached and formatted as a storage drive do I need something larger? I did notice when I looked at the player information that it shows that I have no attached storage device even though I formatted the stick for it. Is it possible to format it as anything other than a storage device when attached to the base?

Mike:SH

04-16-10, 06:00 PM

bob13654

04-16-10, 08:18 PM

I've been so busy ripping my collection that I haven't had a chance to actually watch anything since I got my Dune a couple of weeks ago.

Tonight I started watching a rip of my Gladiator BD. I noticed audio dropouts and occasional slow down and stuttering. I thought it might be the rip, but if I rewind the stuttering is gone and the audio dropouts don't occur in the same place.

My setup is:

HP ex495 MSS running Windows Home Server connected to a D Link 5 port switch, running over wired Cat 6 cables (Cat 5e keystones in my wall plates, haven't had a chance to replace them yet) through a Linksys WRT160N router, then running to another 8 port D Link switch and out to the Dune which is running the Beta 2100 firmware.

I have set up a SMB share and I was getting 10.5-11 MBs over the speed test. Unfortunately, I am now using yaDIS and now I don't know how to run a speed test anymore as the option doesn't show when I press info anymore.

Will setting up a NFS share make any difference? Are dropouts and stuttering common? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Mike:SH

04-16-10, 09:20 PM

bob13654-if you have fast SMB share unable-set up to disable-this function not working properly.

jrolmstd

04-16-10, 09:48 PM

bob13654-if you have fast SMB share unable-set up to disable-this function not working properly.

Holly crap. I got the same issue(s) with fast SMB enabled. Thanks for the tip :)

ArthurPower

04-16-10, 09:53 PM

Hello,

I just received my Base 3.0 an hooked it up.

It is playing the files from one of our HD's perfectly.

I was trying to instal a D Link adapter.

Do not know how to install the driver for it.

Just tried downloading every firmware upgrade for the 3.0 and tried installing, keep geting the message invalid firmware file.

What can I do?

Even treid installing some of the older firmware upgrades.
The Dune was not even able to read these at all.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

The driver for the D-Link adapter is included in the firmware. Try downloading the latest firmware from our site. Un-Zip the file and place it on a USB drive.

Download: Dune HD Base 3.0 Beta 2100 (http://www.duneplayer.com/Firmware/Dune%20HD%20Base%203.0%20Firmware/dune_firmware_hdbase3_100307_2100_beta.dff.zip)

Arthur

wwwDunePlayer.com

bob13654

04-16-10, 11:01 PM

bob13654-if you have fast SMB share unable-set up to disable-this function not working properly.

Thanks for the tip. I tried turning fast SMB sharing off before I posted earlier and it didn't seem to make a difference. But I probably should have cycled the power after I made the change. I noticed that my Dune was "flickering" even in the setup menus (not the BD rip menus but the actual Dune menus) when I made the settings changes, but a quick cycle of the power made that go away.

Quick question for anyone using yaDIS. When I first set up my Dune, I could go to the folder where my movies were and go any individual film's folder and click "info" on the iso. From there I could run a speed test. Now that I am using yaDIS, I have nice artwork, but when I click "info" I just get some generic info like the folder and the iso's file name, but no way to run a speed test. Anyone know how I can get the test working?

Eric Porter

04-17-10, 01:46 AM

Try Initializes System Storage-this you probably missing.
http://dune-hd.com/firmware/usb_flash_drive/

That worked for the system storage thanks for the tip! I was able to get the BD Live to work the The Dark Knight but tried it on The Wizard of Oz and it is telling me I need a firmware upgrade for my player. Also tried it on Toy Story and it didn't work at all.

peterjcat

04-17-10, 03:37 AM

Nethead28

04-17-10, 08:54 AM

I have recently received my Dune Prime 3.0 and I have been trying to setup my Harmony One to control it. All buttons are working fine except Play and Pause? They both send out long commands and do nothing. I have learned them from original black (2) remote ten times and they still don't work?

I also have two eject's on the LCD screen - one works and one doesn't? I only setup one and Logitech software only shows one, but there are 2 on the LCD screen.

Any ideas?

Thanks in Advance.

Mike:SH

04-17-10, 12:27 PM

Thanks for the tip. I tried turning fast SMB sharing off before I posted earlier and it didn't seem to make a difference. But I probably should have cycled the power after I made the change. I noticed that my Dune was "flickering" even in the setup menus (not the BD rip menus but the actual Dune menus) when I made the settings changes, but a quick cycle of the power made that go away.

Quick question for anyone using yaDIS. When I first set up my Dune, I could go to the folder where my movies were and go any individual film's folder and click "info" on the iso. From there I could run a speed test. Now that I am using yaDIS, I have nice artwork, but when I click "info" I just get some generic info like the folder and the iso's file name, but no way to run a speed test. Anyone know how I can get the test working?

For proper playback recommended:

1.Experimental Gigabyte-disable
2.Fast SMB-disable
3.If you run Torrent-shot down

Opentoe

04-17-10, 02:08 PM

Thanks for the tip. I tried turning fast SMB sharing off before I posted earlier and it didn't seem to make a difference. But I probably should have cycled the power after I made the change. I noticed that my Dune was "flickering" even in the setup menus (not the BD rip menus but the actual Dune menus) when I made the settings changes, but a quick cycle of the power made that go away.

Quick question for anyone using yaDIS. When I first set up my Dune, I could go to the folder where my movies were and go any individual film's folder and click "info" on the iso. From there I could run a speed test. Now that I am using yaDIS, I have nice artwork, but when I click "info" I just get some generic info like the folder and the iso's file name, but no way to run a speed test. Anyone know how I can get the test working?

I never used yaDIS before, but stop the program. Go to the directory where you have those files/movies stored. Rename your dune_folder.txt to something you will remember. Browse to your movie folder where you just renamed the dune_folder file and you'll see the default folder list where you can run the speed tests. Just rename your dune_folder.txt file back to the original file name. I believe this will work fine to do temporary tests.

jimim

04-17-10, 03:55 PM

Mike:SH

04-17-10, 05:55 PM

MakeMKV question:

I have read through so many threads today and still don't have a deff yes or no.

If a movie was ripped with MakeMKV will the dune player allow you to bitstream the DTSMA or TrueHD track without down mixing or using the core audio. I know the popcorn hour units won't but I can't find a deff answer re: the Dune player.

I will say this player does seem to be much more stable from reading for the past few hours, so hopefully I'l get a yes to my question.

The reason I ask is cause I don't have a PC so my only option is MakeMKV on the Mac side. Am I correct in my thinking?

thanks,
jim

Well,i don't see any complains on Mac on russian forum,and think you will be fain until keep proper structure on mkv file.

Mr.Panda

04-17-10, 07:15 PM

The driver for the D-Link adapter is included in the firmware. Try downloading the latest firmware from our site. Un-Zip the file and place it on a USB drive.

Download: Dune HD Base 3.0 Beta 2100 (http://www.duneplayer.com/Firmware/Dune%20HD%20Base%203.0%20Firmware/dune_firmware_hdbase3_100307_2100_beta.dff.zip)

Arthur

wwwDunePlayer.com

Hello Arthur,

Thank you for your reply.

I just once again using every USB port on the back of the Dune.

Just erased the latest firmware upgrade from my stoorage device and added it back on to it.

It is still coming up as invalid firmware file.

Now I am going to try it again using the link you have just given me.
Will keep you posted.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

bob13654

04-17-10, 07:23 PM

For proper playback recommended:

1.Experimental Gigabyte-disable
2.Fast SMB-disable
3.If you run Torrent-shot down

Thanks for the tip. I never had the GigE turned on, but I did have fast SMB sharing. Not running a torrent either.

Here's a weird thing. I just ripped my X Men 1&2 discs with DVD Fab and for some reason they won't load. They just sit there blank and nothing happens when I try to watch them. These are the first Fox BDs that I have tried to rip so it may have something to do with DVD Fab and BD+, because everything else I've tried to rip works.

However, after I ripped them to my server and tried to play them, all my other BD rips seem to no load slower on the Dune. I just watched Gladiator the other night and it would take about 20 seconds to get to the loading animation. Now, after trying the X Men films, it takes about a minute to get to the loading animation. What could be causing that behavior?

ArthurPower

04-17-10, 07:36 PM

Hello Arthur,

Thank you for your reply.

I just once again using every USB port on the back of the Dune.

Just erased the latest firmware upgrade from my stoorage device and added it back on to it.

It is still coming up as invalid firmware file.

Now I am going to try it again using the link you have just given me.
Will keep you posted.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

If you are still unable to update the firmware go to our website and give us a call. I will walk you through the process.

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

Mike:SH

04-17-10, 07:48 PM

Hello Arthur,

Thank you for your reply.

I just once again using every USB port on the back of the Dune.

Just erased the latest firmware upgrade from my stoorage device and added it back on to it.

It is still coming up as invalid firmware file.

Now I am going to try it again using the link you have just given me.
Will keep you posted.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

I hope you unzip file before try do firmware upgrade ?

Mike:SH

04-17-10, 07:53 PM

Thanks for the tip. I never had the GigE turned on, but I did have fast SMB sharing. Not running a torrent either.

Here's a weird thing. I just ripped my X Men 1&2 discs with DVD Fab and for some reason they won't load. They just sit there blank and nothing happens when I try to watch them. These are the first Fox BDs that I have tried to rip so it may have something to do with DVD Fab and BD+, because everything else I've tried to rip works.

However, after I ripped them to my server and tried to play them, all my other BD rips seem to no load slower on the Dune. I just watched Gladiator the other night and it would take about 20 seconds to get to the loading animation. Now, after trying the X Men films, it takes about a minute to get to the loading animation. What could be causing that behavior?

On new BD disks is normal behavior its BDjava take more time.

And try Clear all Blu-ray Local Storage data-maybe this will help. http://dune-hd.com/firmware/usb_flash_drive/

Mr.Panda

04-17-10, 08:06 PM

If you are still unable to update the firmware go to our website and give us a call. I will walk you through the process.

Arthur

www.DunePlayer.com

Arthur,

Thank you!

Noting worked.

Will call you.

Thank you,

Mr. Panda

Mr.Panda

04-17-10, 10:37 PM

I just spoke to Arthur.

He was a pleasure to deal with.

It seems as though the firmware upgrades I treid did not work for me.

The one he has given me works perfectly.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

bob13654

04-17-10, 10:45 PM

On new BD disks is normal behavior its BDjava take more time.

And try Clear all Blu-ray Local Storage data-maybe this will help. http://dune-hd.com/firmware/usb_flash_drive/

Yeah, I don't think it was normal. Something was definitely wrong. I tried to log into my server a few minutes ago and it was so slow that I could barely navigate the OS. I also noticed that something had messed with the system partition on the server. Prior to adding the X Men movies to my collection my server showed about 20 gigs for the system, after it jumped to 57 gigs. I rebooted my server and it was still slow and the system still showed 57 gigs. Finally I deleted both X Men movies off the server (they were stored in the Videos share) and rebooted. My system dropped back to 20 gigs and the server is smoking fast again. Oh, and the opening animation of the other BDs in my collection boots up in a normal time again.

I used DVD Fab to rip the BDs down to a BDMV file structure with Certificate and then ImgBurn to package up the files into a iso on the server. This is the same process I've used for all the BDs and DVDs on my server and all seem to work. I'm at a loss at this point.

cnelson87

04-17-10, 10:55 PM

What BD movie has DD+? Name one and I will test it. As far as the Dune playing DD+ from HD DVD converted to BD folder structure files; I do not think it is possible due to the fact that no program converts DD+ from HD DVD to BD without converting to LPCM. If there is a program that does this let me know and I will test. I have 3 Dune players. FLAC is a waste of time.

Well, tsMuxeR will accept HD DVD DD+ as an input, and will output a BD structure, but I don't know if it will complain if you try and combine the two -- the result wouldn't be a compliant BD and presumably wouldn't play on a standalone, but a media player might play it... And tsMuxeR will definitely create a standalone TS/M2TS file that the Dune should decode or at least bitstream, like the A-110? I don't have any HD DVDs any more to test.

Off the top of my head the only BD I know with DD+ is the Dolby test disc, it's an optional codec for BD and not a significant one, but some of the SoCs designed for BD (ie the Sigma ones) do support it in both flavours, so there's some hope... (Also: The Hangover Region B has a commentary track in DD+ if you've got that? :) )

I don't use FLAC personally but I would think it's not a total waste of time, there's something a bit disheartening about seeing a 640kbps DD+ track taking up more than 10 times the space in a 6.9mbps LPCM version, it doesn't matter as much now that drive space is getting cheaper but there's something aesthetically irritating about it! Or maybe it's just me.

Transformers has an eac3 audio track. It's way down the list, maybe the 3rd EN track?

To confirm: Yes, tsMuxR will convert HD-DVD to Blu-Ray and just pass thru the eac3 audio.
As I stated previously, I've converted around 50 HD-DVDs this way and most (about 30) of them have eac3 audio. I converted to Blu-Ray structure for future compatibility, even though my PCH-A110 will only play the standalone m2ts file.

I realize that DD+ on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are not exactly the same thing. And I have confirmed that the PS3 will not play a HD-DVD converted to Blu-Ray with eac3 audio. But I figure since the Dune has a newer / better Sigma chip than the PCH that it would probably play the same standalone m2ts file. And if it plays the standalone file then maybe it would also play the Blu-Ray structure. I'm hoping someone can give it a try and confirm.

kjgarrison

04-18-10, 12:00 AM

I just spoke to Arthur.

He was a pleasure to deal with.

It seems as though the firmware upgrades I treid did not work for me.

The one he has given me works perfectly.

Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda

Did you buy your Dune from Arthur?

peterjcat

04-18-10, 03:50 AM

The reason I ask is cause I don't have a PC so my only option is MakeMKV on the Mac side. Am I correct in my thinking?

I'm not sure about the HD-audio-in-MKV issue, but you can use Mac BluRayRipper Pro to decrypt and copy an entire Blu-ray structure. It's only new but it's been working for me so far and it's much cheaper than AnyDVD HD (though not as versatile).

Nethead28

04-18-10, 08:46 AM

Mike:SH

04-18-10, 10:14 AM

jimim

04-18-10, 11:33 AM

I'm not sure about the HD-audio-in-MKV issue, but you can use Mac BluRayRipper Pro to decrypt and copy an entire Blu-ray structure. It's only new but it's been working for me so far and it's much cheaper than AnyDVD HD (though not as versatile).

I did not know mac the ripper did this. i will check that out. what ways is it not as versatile to use? also being that it does a complete rip of the bluray i assume that is a better solution cause then you will have everything not just the main movie if one likes?

can i also ask what bluray drive you using on your mac? are you going usb or are you using a sata inclosure?

thanks alot,
jim

ScottJ

04-18-10, 01:57 PM

Mr.Panda

04-18-10, 03:15 PM

Did you buy your Dune from Arthur?

Actually No.

I bought the Dune from Chris at Media Sreaming Store.com.

He was absolutely wonderful to deal with.

Mr. Panda

kjgarrison

04-18-10, 03:18 PM

Anybody here aware of the issue with the new Dunes scaling to 981 x 1081? It's got a thread on MPC Club forum.

http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23525

kjgarrison

04-18-10, 03:21 PM

Did you buy your Dune from Arthur?

Actually No.

I bought the Dune from Chris at Media Sreaming Store.com.

He was absolutely wonderful to deal with.

Mr. Panda

Well, in that case very well played, Arthur. Very well indeed. I'll be placing my order with you as soon as Dune gets the scaling problem fixed.

Mike:SH

04-18-10, 05:11 PM

Anybody here aware of the issue with the new Dunes scaling to 981 x 1081? It's got a thread on MPC Club forum.

http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23525

Scaling to 1921x1081 when playing bluray-not to 981 x 1081!

Problem will be fixed in new firmware-answer on russian forum.

peterjcat

04-19-10, 08:11 AM

I did not know mac the ripper did this. i will check that out. what ways is it not as versatile to use? also being that it does a complete rip of the bluray i assume that is a better solution cause then you will have everything not just the main movie if one likes?

can i also ask what bluray drive you using on your mac? are you going usb or are you using a sata inclosure?

thanks alot,
jim

Not MacTheRipper -- "Mac BluRayRipper Pro" -- I don't think it has any connection with the old MTR.

I prefer to back up the entire disc in case I want to watch the special features etc; some people prefer just to have the main movie, to save space or to save time (you don't have to wade through all the previews/FBI warnings etc), but I figure since the Dune can handle the whole disc I'll leave it at that.

I've got a Panasonic UJ-120 slimline Blu-ray drive in a generic USB enclosure, which I like because it's USB-powered and doesn't need a separate power source; but I haven't been able to update the firmware and there are 2 recent BDs that it doesn't read. I also have a LiteOn full-size BD drive in my Popcorn Hour C-200 but am thinking of pulling that out and putting it in a 5.25" USB enclosure to see if that's a bit better. It also might be faster.

blackssr

04-19-10, 03:31 PM

Transformers has an eac3 audio track. It's way down the list, maybe the 3rd EN track?

To confirm: Yes, tsMuxR will convert HD-DVD to Blu-Ray and just pass thru the eac3 audio.
As I stated previously, I've converted around 50 HD-DVDs this way and most (about 30) of them have eac3 audio.

I realize that DD+ on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are not exactly the same thing. structure.

Are you sure about this? I did about 50 HD DVDs last year and DD+ is not passed through with tsMuxR.. It is converted to LPCM when converting an HD DVD to a BD stucture or ISO. I have a Dune Player and Denon 5308CI and am certain that LPCM is there not DD+ when playing converted HD DVDs in BD ISO format.

jimim

04-19-10, 07:44 PM

Not MacTheRipper -- "Mac BluRayRipper Pro" -- I don't think it has any connection with the old MTR.

I prefer to back up the entire disc in case I want to watch the special features etc; some people prefer just to have the main movie, to save space or to save time (you don't have to wade through all the previews/FBI warnings etc), but I figure since the Dune can handle the whole disc I'll leave it at that.

I've got a Panasonic UJ-120 slimline Blu-ray drive in a generic USB enclosure, which I like because it's USB-powered and doesn't need a separate power source; but I haven't been able to update the firmware and there are 2 recent BDs that it doesn't read. I also have a LiteOn full-size BD drive in my Popcorn Hour C-200 but am thinking of pulling that out and putting it in a 5.25" USB enclosure to see if that's a bit better. It also might be faster.

Hey thanks for all the great Mac info! I appreciate it very much!

jim

VAMET

04-20-10, 01:04 AM

Dear Friends

This is Polish test of Alpha FirmWare with Browser. DVB-T over USB, Flash, JukeBox etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh3d0qBT8nA

And look here for this topic, it's Polish translated to English by Google.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhdtvpolska.com%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D2097 5%26hl%3D

Sincerely

Nethead28

04-20-10, 05:13 AM

That is strange, I use a Harmony One with my Dune Base 3.0 and have no problems like you describe. The two eject buttons especially sounds like a Harmony software bug.

I don't know what happened. I removed the Dune activity and applied a new Dune activity, now all is well. Must have been Harmony's sometimes flaky software.

blackssr

04-20-10, 08:27 AM

MakeMKV question:

I have read through so many threads today and still don't have a deff yes or no.

If a movie was ripped with MakeMKV will the dune player allow you to bitstream the DTSMA or TrueHD track without down mixing or using the core audio. I know the popcorn hour units won't but I can't find a deff answer re: the Dune player.

I will say this player does seem to be much more stable from reading for the past few hours, so hopefully I'l get a yes to my question.

The reason I ask is cause I don't have a PC so my only option is MakeMKV on the Mac side. Am I correct in my thinking?

thanks,
jim

The lastest version of MakeMKV allows the Hidef audio to be ripped intact. The Dune Players bistream the Hidef audio when playing MKVs, ISO and M2TS files perfectly. It always has even when first released unlike the other players out there that required multible firmware fixes and most are still unable to do so.

bob13654

04-20-10, 09:47 AM

Streaming BD.ISO's ripped with AnyDVD from a HP MediaSmart Server (SMB). All wired with Cat:5

Linksys Wireless-N Gigabit Router wrt350n > Linksys 5 port 10/100 switch > Dune Prime 3.0. > HDMI > Samsung LCD for video
>optical > Yamaha receiver for audio

Speed test going through switch 8.0 mb/s
Speed test going direct to Dune 8.3 mb/s

Have tested short clips after ripping and all seemed great, until I watched complete movies.

Inglorious Basterds: After a point green lines across screen with occasional pixelations

Hurt Locker: After a bit into the movie - quick pixelations at bottom section of screen and an occasional green lines

? My LAN not fast enough ?
? AnyDVD ISO Rips ?
? Dune not so Prime ?

Any ideas? Thanks!

Forgot to mention using latest beta 2100 firmware

I have, very nearly, the same setup.

HP ex495 MSS > D Link Switch > Linksys WRT160N > D Link Switch > Dune using Cat 6 cables. I have stuttering and audio dropouts on BD rips. I turned off Fast SMB sharing and never used Gigabit on the Dune. With fast SMB I would get 10.5 to 11 MB/s but still had stuttering. With fast SMB off, I get 7.5 to 8.5 MB/s and still get stuttering and audio dropouts.

I think I'm going to try setting up and NFS share on my WHS. I have been reading that NFS may be the most "consistent" way to stream. I know it's not the rips, because you can't reproduce the same errors in the same spots and when I get a slowdown or stutter, pressing pause usually takes care of the problem. Can anyone here recommend the easiest way to go about setting up NFS on WHS? Is the Microsoft solution the best way or is Allegro? Thanks.