View Full Version : fire and ice ....am i the only one excited.?


ditch-digger
09-05-09, 09:20 AM
will be getting this this week. loved this back in the day. along with others like wizards...

reviews look very good. picture as well as audio.

Stevie76
09-05-09, 10:17 AM
+1!!

This is an amazing fantasy epic, sadly it is pretty unknown these days.

Blue-Underground seems to have done a damn good job on the disc :)

Baenwort
09-05-09, 10:56 AM
Tell us a bit about it I've never heard of the title. Maybe with a bit more a a discription you can convince some of us to give it a try. I've found several good titles I missed out the first time around due to AVS members talking about them.

Sporadic
09-05-09, 11:33 AM
Tell us a bit about it I've never heard of the title. Maybe with a bit more a a discription you can convince some of us to give it a try. I've found several good titles I missed out the first time around due to AVS members talking about them.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5336&show=review

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085542/

iDarren
09-05-09, 12:11 PM
It was such a disapointment to me. Here I was expecting this amazing Frazetta art and it looked like a bad kids cartoon with a very weak story to boot.

BTW the Blu ray drops the big Frazetta doc that came with the DVD set.

Brandon B
09-05-09, 06:32 PM
I remember seeing this in the theater. Not something I'd get excited about. Now Wizards on BD I would say warrants some excitement. It wasn't announced somewhere was it?

chirpie
09-06-09, 12:10 AM
Very fluid animation, though more soulless than disney fare. Sort of comes with the territory when you do rotoscoping. Not an amazing film, but not bad if you like the genre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz-yLWGaIxM&feature=related

DaveFi
09-06-09, 01:44 AM
Sort of comes with the territory when you do rotoscoping.I'm not sure what you mean by that statement? Rotoscoping is simply a method to an end and has nothing to do with the kind of results that can be achieved. It has been used in varying animated features from Snow White, Heavy Metal, Lord of the Rings, Titan AE to A Scanner Darkly, etc, etc...

chirpie
09-09-09, 01:16 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by that statement? Rotoscoping is simply a method to an end and has nothing to do with the kind of results that can be achieved. It has been used in varying animated features from Snow White, Heavy Metal, Lord of the Rings, Titan AE to A Scanner Darkly, etc, etc...

I'm aware of what you state and I stand by my assessment. The same thing happens in computer animation when you do motion capture and don't try to tweak it properly. Fire and Ice in it's angle placements while not bad, don't always mesh quite right.

It comes off looking a little like soulless puppetry. Snow White actually was done quite well, but the majority of the productions that use it and don't let the animator put their own flair into it... I dunno, it just sets off alarms in my brain the second I see it.

I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate the effort, but you'll never get an animated scene as dynamic as say the fight scenes in Ninja Scroll out of rotoscoping.

EDIT ADD ON: I was watching some clips of Fire and Ice on youtube... I don't remember the princess' outfit being that exploitive. And by that I mean I really liked it. :-P

lordcloud
09-23-09, 12:40 PM
I have to pick this up. I remember being awed by this in high school on an American vs Japanese animation day at my best friend's house. Fire and Ice vs Akira.