For 2010, 'Beauty and the Beast' and 'Fantasia and Fantasia 2000' have been scheduled for Blu-ray release. The remainder of the titles - 'The Lion King', 'Bambi', 'Cinderella', 'Lady and the Tramp', 'The Little Mermaid', 'Peter Pan', 'The Jungle Book', and '101 Dalmatians' - will be released sometime in 2011-2015, completed by re-releases of 'Sleeping Beauty' and 'Pinocchio' as part of the Diamond Collection.


They already plan a re-release of Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty???

They already plan a re-release of Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty???


That makes no sense, unless the Mouse is planning on shoving them back in The Vault once current BD supplies run out.:confused:

They already plan a re-release of Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty???

Well they have this 'Diamond Collection' that mirrors the platinum collection line-up, so they know which titles will be in it. Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio won't be up again until the whole collection has been cycled through, so these hypothetical re-releases wouldn't be out until 2015-2016.

That makes no sense, unless the Mouse is planning on shoving them back in The Vault once current BD supplies run out.:confused:

Um, yes - that is the plan. All Platinum titles were eventually vaulted, and the Diamond line is just a continuation of that. Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio will be vaulted, then re-released in 2015-2016 when their time in the cycle comes up. I'm amazed that people are still confused by this, when it's been happening this way for the longest time with all top-tier Disney releases.

No Aladdin?

BatB - now mind you I don't consider buying these (Jungle Book may get me, cause it's a masterpiece), but BatB has the best modern song in a Disney film... the Gaston song. Greatness.

Um, yes - that is the plan. All Platinum titles were eventually vaulted, and the Diamond line is just a continuation of that. Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio will be vaulted, then re-released in 2015-2016 when their time in the cycle comes up. I'm amazed that people are still confused by this, when it's been happening this way for the longest time with all top-tier Disney releases.

I didn't realize that one was Platinum and the new is "Diamond". It does make sense that they cycle through them, but I didnt think they could get through them all in 5-6 yrs which is why I was surprised they would be re-released.

BEAUTY AND THE BEAST is going to be a beast, what with the 3 different cuts and (one hopes) new supplemental material. That's what I'm looking forward to the most out of these titles. FANTASIA's cool too (maybe not so much FANTASIA 2k, but whatever).

Every time someone says "Disney Vault" I think of this:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/060D1DAA457C4A579C813FA399D480BC/tv-funhouse-journey-to-the-d.aspx

(Who want to bet the pickaninny centaur gets cropped out of FANTASIA again....)

Here is a link to the actual press release:

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS149523+10-Sep-2009+PRN20090910

It does seem a little strange that Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty are already being planned as re-releases when they just came out. I don't imagine they could look or sound any better They'll just have more extras and different (Diamond) packaging, I would imagine.

I just hope The Lion King comes out sooner rather than later. 2015 is a long ways off.

ok so Disney has plans for 2 of these a year plus all their "new" crap.
the real question is when are they going to start releasing live action classics like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea", "The Parent Trap" or "Polyanna"?
and what about the other animated classics like "the Aristocats", "The Rescuers" or "the Fox and the Hound"?
I hope to god this doesn't mean that this is all we are going to get "classicwise" from Disney for the next 5 years.
If that ends up being the case then they are the biggest disappointment of ANY of the studios imo.

I'll 2nd some of the live-action... I would like to see the original Flubber movies as well as some of the older Herbie even.

On the animated front... I'm going to think positively and believe that movies not on the Diamond list might be made available sooner than those lower in the Diamond queue.

So high hopes now for Aladdin and other non-Diamond movies.

IF that doesn't happen, then some movies won't be out until many of us die of old age! :eek:

well that's the way it is looking right now for the classic live action stuff.
Disney is just a total disappointment at this point.
I just cannot believe how little effort they put into their live action catalog.
They have prominent dvds that have not even been done anamorphically yet.
I mean for all the money they rake in that is just a total joke.
I mean I didn't realize how bad it was until I really looked into it recently.
All of their live action classics should have long been available in top notch sd versions, and they are not.
a few are, but many are not.
a disgrace really imo.

No Aladdin?
My thoughts exactly!? Aladdin is my favorite of the modern classics.

well that's the way it is looking right now for the classic live action stuff.
Disney is just a total disappointment at this point.
I just cannot believe how little effort they put into their live action catalog.
They have prominent dvds that have not even been done anamorphically yet.
I mean for all the money they rake in that is just a total joke.
I mean I didn't realize how bad it was until I really looked into it recently.
All of there live action classics should have long been available in top notch sd versions, and they are not.
a few are, but many are not.
a disgrace really imo.


Are all of 16x9enhanced's post framed 16x9 like the one above all the time. I think I will try my post framed 16x9.

It is disappointing Disney has not updated the older DVD releases.
After joining the Disney Movie Club it is now more obvious to me than ever.
Hercules looks like junk with it's family friendly widescreen.
Beauty and the Beast needs a new release with a higher video bitrate.
I would love to get a copy of The Rescuers Down Under on Blu-ray.

Well if they follow the trend they did with DVD then Beauty and The Beast next year which is my personal favorite Disney followed by my second favorite which is The Lion King in 2011.

I think Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 will be fantastic and i enjoy both.

Its about time they put out Fantasia on BD. I was hoping it would be sooner.
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Its about time they put out Fantasia on BD. I was hoping it would be sooner.
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I wonder if they will zoom in or show this edition fully uncut without any political correctness going on ?

No Aladdin?
The DVD supposedly sold rather poorly (which came as a surprise to me, as I was always under the impression that it was one of the more popular titles), so that might be why they removed it.

But for the newer CAPS-animated titles like Aladdin, it might actually be a boon, as it means we could see them being released earlier than otherwise. Had it still been in the collection you wouldn't have seen it until Fall 2011 anyway. And since they were finished digitally there's really no restoration, or lack thereof, to be worried about. Essentially all the movies from The Rescuers Down Under and forward should look as good on standard edition Blu-ray as on Diamond/Platinum.

What the cel/film-animated titles that aren't part of the Diamond collection will look like though, is anybody's guess.

Looking forward to Beauty & the Beast next year. But I'm a fan of the late 90s non-Diamond films also, I'd love to hear Hunchback in 7.1 lossless, and also pick up Pocahontas, Tarzan and Lilo & Stitch.

I would be happy w/ 3-4 titles per year but...no chance...at the rate Disney is releasing these Blu ray, one would wonder another new format would already be out.

Is it sad that I'm looking forward to this releases?

No Aladdin?

I'm surprised by this as well.


I didn't realize that one was Platinum and the new is "Diamond". It does make sense that they cycle through them, but I didnt think they could get through them all in 5-6 yrs which is why I was surprised they would be re-released.


I remember when I was younger it was around 10 years for the "disney vault". I totally was kicking myself for not getting Beauty and the Beast when it was on DVD, not planning ahead for when I had children. I'm really looking forward to this, so my daughter can see it with good quality, rather than the shoddy VHS copy that she's seen of it.


It makes sense to me as a parent that they'd rerelease those again in a shorter time span. Helps them hit the proper market more often, but still attempt to keep them "special". It's really sucked to not be able to get Beauty & the Beast unless we rent it or watch the VHS copy. I was MORE than pleased to get rid of the Sleeping Beauty VHS copy when that came out!


5-6 year loop would be a good one for Disney with rereleases for sure. Not that I'll be buying them again when they loop (most likely... ;) ) but I'm sure there'll be a nice crop of toddlers out there & more Blu players in people's homes by then!


As these are platinum/diamond editions, I hope they're going to continue with the Blu/DVD/Digital Copy (well ok I can do w/o Digital copy), as at least in my house we don't have a Blu Ray player in the playroom yet, so the DVD is still definitely welcome 'round these parts! I do wish they offered a "light" version as well for those who don't need the 2 copies, but at this time I appreciate them.

It's Robin Hood, I want...

Looking forward to Beauty & the Beast next year. But I'm a fan of the late 90s non-Diamond films also, I'd love to hear Hunchback in 7.1 lossless, and also pick up Pocahontas, Tarzan and Lilo & Stitch.

I second that request for Tarzan. That's one of my my favorite Disney animated movies as well. There's a lot of great Disney movies and I hope they get busy. If WB can put out A Charlie Brown Christmas then surely Disney can give us much more. :)

What about "The Emperor's New Groove?"

Looney Tunes as done by "the mouse." Good stuff!

What about "The Emperor's New Groove?" ...

Boom Baby!!!!

I actually liked the Emperor's New Groove as well. :)

As good a time as any to re-post my thoughts on the whole "vault" scenario.

I understand what Disney is doing... trying to keep demand high, so their movies don't go in the $5 bin like most others do eventually.

BUT, I also can't help but wonder how many sales they lose in the meantime even at 7 years between releases. I know my sister wanted Beauty & the Beast, but this was after it had gone into the vault and could no longer be had... and she has now given up on it after deciding instead to just rent it.

Since they have the Disney Stores and the online store as well... I've argued that Disney movies "in the vault" should still be available direct from Disney.

Titles that have been going for $20-$25 retail, once vaulted, could be put up for sale direct from Disney at $25-$30 and people would pay that to get an already vaulted title that they can't get anywhere else.

People post all the time about finding a Disney title on eBay or somewhere and paying a premium for it because they can't get it anywhere else... So this seems like a win-win to me.

Disney can still "vault" titles... but since they have the keys to the vault, they can let you in sometimes between major releases if they want.

Call me when every single Disney film is released at the same time in a boxset. Enough of this "we'll never get around to the films you want" staggered release BS.

Really surprised to hear that Aladdin didn't sell well. That and Lion King are to of my favorites in the somewhat recent releases, probably followed by Tarzan.
Really cannot wait to see these on bluray.

I agree about the live action movies. 20,000 Leagues would be day one! I just wonder how long we will wait for Tron.

What about "The Emperor's New Groove?"

Looney Tunes as done by "the mouse." Good stuff!

Good Lord yes. I have been patiently waiting for any word that this overlooked classic will get the Blu treatment. I can only watch my Ultimate Groove DVD so many times lol.

Aladdin, Rescuers Down Under, and ROBIN HOOD are probably my favorite three animated Disney animated movies... but then I also love Jungle Book, Fox and the Hound, Rescuers, Beauty and the Beast...

For live action:
Herbie movies
Bedknobs and Brooksticks
TRON

I wonder if Disney will ever grow a pair and release "Song of the South" on Blu-Ray. It's such a great movie, it's really pathetic that they are afraid to release it.

Non-Diamond animated titles are going to be released during this period too, judging by the announcement of "Dumbo" for next spring.

About live-action, I'd love to see "Swiss family Robinson", among others.

The minute Disney announces The Black Hole or The Black Cauldron, wake me up. Otherwise, we've already seen multiple VHS and DVD versions of most of these titles.

It would make sense Tron is coming when the new movie hits theaters. But why they didn't plan for the recent reissues of Mary Poppins, Bedknobs and Broomsticks and Pete's Dragon is beyond me.

Aladdin, Rescuers Down Under, and ROBIN HOOD are probably my favorite three animated Disney animated movies... but then I also love Jungle Book, Fox and the Hound, Rescuers, Beauty and the Beast...

Hopefully, for the eventual Blu-ray disc of 'Rescuers Down Under', Di$ney will go back to the original computer files and do a direct-to-digital transfer. 'RDU' was their first feature to be "shot" entirely in CG (while 'The Little Mermaid' was the last cel animated feature film from the studio.) I was not happy that the DVD was sourced from a film print.

I thought for sure we would get Toy Story and TS2 on BD next year since TS3 is coming out next summer? The annivesary DVDs are some of the best looking DVDs out there, I can't imagine what the BD would look like.

I'd love to see Tron and The Black Hole on BD!

I thought for sure we would get Toy Story and TS2 on BD next year since TS3 is coming out next summer?...

I would assume these would come out next year also. I'm also wondering if there will be a preview of what Blu is next for Pixar on either the Up and Monsters Inc Blus coming out in less than a month. My guess is both Toy Stories either in the Spring or Fall and then Finding Nemo the Spring or Fall as well. The worst part is I guess Pixar will save the best for last. :( The Incredibles.

When is The Little Mermaid Blu-ray coming out? The DVD is ok, but the picture and sound can be a lot better. TLM is one of my favorties :D

I would assume these would come out next year also. I'm also wondering if there will be a preview of what Blu is next for Pixar on either the Up and Monsters Inc Blus coming out in less than a month. My guess is both Toy Stories either in the Spring or Fall and then Finding Nemo the Spring or Fall as well. The worst part is I guess Pixar will save the best for last. :( The Incredibles.

After UP! and Monsters, Inc. are released next month, there will only be four Pixar movies left: Toy Story 1 & 2, Finding Nemo and The Incredibles. I would imagine that the Toy Story movies will be released as a trilogy box set next Fall (2010) in time for the holidays. That would leave Finding Nemo or The Incredibles for Spring 2010. Either one would be fine with me, as long as we get one of them.

When is The Little Mermaid Blu-ray coming out? The DVD is ok, but the picture and sound can be a lot better. TLM is one of my favorties :D
If they stick to the same order as previously we won't see it for several years, but when they do release it, I really hope they redo it properly. The restoration/transfer for the Platinum DVD was farmed out to Technicolor instead of Lowry and it looked pretty bad in places, with obvious ghosting due to poor temporal noise reduction.

Yeah, we won't see TS1/TS2 until TS3 comes out on BD... almost a foregone conclusion. I'm just fine with that, however... plenty of other movies to watch over and over.

So are they basically re-rendering TS1 and TS2 at 2K or 4K in order to make it look better for 1080p? As I understand it, TS1 was originally only slightly higher than 720p...

That's the great thing about CGI movies. Provided the original texture resolution was high enough or if they just didn't use texture maps, they can re-render them at any resolution they like. They can also re-render for 3D; re-render for 60FPS or 120FPS; whatever.

As presentation technology and standards change these CGI movies will be the ones that can best adapt.

As they've already re-rendered TS1 and TS2 in 3D, might as well do them in HD at the same time. Therefore, I believe they already have the HD version by now.

By the way, I think usually they release the previous movies BEFORE the sequel, so maybe we'll see TS1 and TS2 BD BEFORE TS3 hits theaters.

By the way, I think usually they release the previous movies BEFORE the sequel, so maybe we'll see TS1 and TS2 BD BEFORE TS3 hits theaters.

That's a good point. We may see TS1 and TS2 released on Blu-ray in the late Spring / early Summer time frame as way to promote TS3 coming to theaters. Then we would get the new release (TS3) in the Fall along with a catalog (FN or TI). They are following that formula this Fall, so it's possible.

I wonder if Disney will ever grow a pair and release "Song of the South" on Blu-Ray. It's such a great movie, it's really pathetic that they are afraid to release it.

I sold my Laserdisc version of Song of the South (Japanese import) a few years back in anticipation of a rumored DVD release...and I'm still waiting! IMO the movie itself is just OK, but the animated sequences are fantastic. They really should get it out remastered...

In regards to their classics, why haven't we heard anything about Cinderella or Lady & the Tramp? These were always listed amongst their "classics" which made frequent returns to the vault. Cinderella is their best princess movie before Beauty & the Beast came along, as far as I'm concerned.

Fantasia... maybe this time we will get the unedited The Pastoral Symphony section with Sunflower not excised out (http://www.thememoryhole.org/arts/sunflower.htm).

I just wonder how long we will wait for Tron.

Hopefully with Tron Legacy around the corner, not long!

Fantasia... maybe this time we will get the unedited The Pastoral Symphony section with Sunflower not excised out (http://www.thememoryhole.org/arts/sunflower.htm).

Sunflower will be cut out. Usually, I loathe revisionist deletions, but this one is absolutely justified.

Some of the Disney titles I'm least interested in owning on Blu-ray would be Snow White, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Peter Pan and the original Fantasia. So naturally those are the ones that come first, lol. I'll get whatever they put out, but it would be great to see at least a mention of the more recent titles like Aladdin, Mulan, Tarzan, Lilo & Stitch, Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Hunchback of Notre Dame, etc. Those are the ones my kids really love and their existing and future BR release lineup is not balanced enough with films from the last 15-20 years.

Disney: give me Tron and The Black Hole, dammit.

Hmm, I wonder what's going on with "Beauty and the Beast"? It looks like the 3D theatrical re-release has been postponed a year to coincide with the film's twentieth anniversary.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm

There are so many Disney movies out there. I hope they put many more than the Diamond series out on blu!

What's the difference between Platinum and Diamond editions on Blu-ray? Compared Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio (Platinum) and Snow White (Diamond), both editions on Blu-ray have similar types of bonus materials. Sleep Beauty and Pinocchio have picture in picture commentary but Snow White only has audio commentary. Both editions have BD Live and 2 Blu-ray discs and DVD disc. After watched all the bonus materials on all the movies, both Platinum and Diamond editions are similar.

I think its just a name change for marketing. Many Disney titles have already gotten the Platinum treatment on DVD back before blu-ray came along. So now to re-release some of these titles for BD a name change is in order.

I think its just a name change for marketing. Many Disney titles have already gotten the Platinum treatment on DVD back before blu-ray came along. So now to re-release some of these titles for BD a name change is in order.

That would be what I think. Diamond edition sounds "bigger" or "better" than Platinum edition. What's better than Diamond edition when too many movies are Diamond edition?

Amazing about advertising, "Diamond edition with 4 or 5 discs version". Looking at the movie length and bonus materials of classic Disney animations such as Snow White, Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty, all the 2nd disc bonus materials could have easily fit on one 50GB Blu-ray 1st movie disc. Disney always like to release many Blu-ray movies with two Blu-ray discs. Pirates of Caribbean 2 Bonus material Blu-ray disc is the same SD materials from the DVD edition which is on 4.7GB DVD disc. The bonus materials would have easily fit onto the 1st Blu-ray movie disc. My point is movie studios often use more discs or bigger edition naming to get consumers to think they are buying the better edition.

Small update, here is the cover art:

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Exclusive_First_Look_Disneys_Beauty_and_the_Beast_Blu-ray_Cover_Art/6496

Small update, here is the cover art:

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Exclusive_First_Look_Disneys_Beauty_and_the_Beast_Blu-ray_Cover_Art/6496

Looks like Beauty and the Beast will be available in both Blu-ray and DVD box packaging. Many movie buyers still don't look at Blu-ray movie shelves and Snow White must have proved that able to sell Blu-ray+DVD in a DVD box packaging helps.

I did see once in a store that a movie buyer wasn't happy having to pay for the included Blu-ray version when they only want the DVD version.

Day 1 purchase for me. Can't wait!

The trailer for Beauty and the Beast on the Princess and the Frog disc looked amazing to my eyes, so I'm really excited. Granted, the last time I saw it was on the relatively awful DVD release, so anything was bound to be an improvement.

Besides Song of the South Uncut, how about Make Mine Music and The Three Caballeros/Saludos Amigos uncut and uncensored?? Thank God I still have my old laserdiscs with the films intact.

And the entire Disney shorts vault fully and lovingly restored and released uncut and in HD? I wasted my money on a lot of those Signature Collection DVD sets and though I'm grateful that they released them at all... for the most part the PQ and AQ are less than desirable and look they were sourced from unrestored elements and even older video masters.

Warner Brothers restored their Looney Tune shorts in HD from the original elements for preservation's sake (hopefully Blu-rays will be soon released), so doesn't Disney have even more money at their disposal to do right by their animated and live action gems?

The trailer for Beauty and the Beast on the Princess and the Frog disc looked amazing to my eyes, so I'm really excited. Granted, the last time I saw it was on the relatively awful DVD release, so anything was bound to be an improvement.

+1. Saw the trailer on the Ponyo disc and can't wait to upgrade my LaserDisc!