View Full Version : Blu-Rays that are too good for thier own good!?
I don't have any specific examples, but I was wondering if anyone has any examples from movies where the clarity of blu-ray actually takes you out of the movie because you notice things that are fake...props, blood, scenery, etc.
Please don't start talking about EE that make people look fake. I'm talkin about seeing someones makeup or ketchup blood that wouldn't have been visible in older theaters.
Thanks for your input!
The original Friday the 13th. The kills look pretty bad. Especially when the girl gets her neck sliced towards the beginning of the movie. Her neck is clearly makeup and doesnt match the color with her face. Same with the Kevin Bacon kill later on in the movie. Makes me wish the theatrical cut was released on Blu.
Swift Mojo Hand 09-11-09, 12:07 AM The original Dawn Of The Dead has a few Zombies that look more like Smurfs than zombies. Still love the movie and it is defiantly worth viewing in HD.
vancouver 09-11-09, 12:59 AM The original Dawn Of The Dead has a few Zombies that look more like Smurfs than zombies. Still love the movie and it is defiantly worth viewing in HD.
Yup....I just finished watching it. Well worth owning on BD, but some of the zombies didnt benefit from HD. :eek:
Adventures of Robin Hood - The sets really look fake now, especially at the beginning - villages, etc. and interiors. Anyway, doesnt matter since its my all time favorite movie. Outstanding job of remastering
Rambo II: you can see the pipe of the smoke generator in the helicopter as it struggles to return to base at the end.
Kram Sacul 09-11-09, 08:20 AM Star Trek TOS. A lot of makeup back then.
I just thought of one!
Ghost Busters, the scene where Sigourney Weaver is sitting in a chair and a demon grabs her from behind.
The demon grabs her shirt and in the process, on VHS and DVD it looks like her breast is exposed! However on blu you can clearly see it's just an undershirt! :eek:
Sporadic 09-11-09, 10:17 AM Adventures of Robin Hood - The sets really look fake now, especially at the beginning - villages, etc. and interiors. Anyway, doesnt matter since its my all time favorite movie. Outstanding job of remastering
Or him bringing a stuffed deer for dinner :p
cobolisdead 09-11-09, 10:59 AM Star Trek TOS. A lot of makeup back then.
I have noticed Spock's ears more.
Malcolm_B 09-11-09, 11:09 AM I just thought of one!
Ghost Busters, the scene where Sigourney Weaver is sitting in a chair and a demon grabs her from behind.
The demon grabs her shirt and in the process, on VHS and DVD it looks like her breast is exposed! However on blu you can clearly see it's just an undershirt! :eek:
You just needed a better TV! ;) Never looked like a breast to me... although I tried to make it so by squinting just right! :)
I just thought of one!
Ghost Busters, the scene where Sigourney Weaver is sitting in a chair and a demon grabs her from behind.
The demon grabs her shirt and in the process, on VHS and DVD it looks like her breast is exposed! However on blu you can clearly see it's just an undershirt! :eek:
Their mistake too cause you would have upgraded again and again for 3-D or Violet-ray or whatever just to see that boob in better detail.:D
JaylisJayP 09-11-09, 03:58 PM A Nightmare of Elm Street.
JaylisJayP 09-11-09, 03:58 PM And from what I hear 2010, but I still have it sitting wrapped on my shelf.
lwright84 09-11-09, 06:01 PM The Matrix Reloaded\Revolutions
I recall seeing these in the theaters and being in awe of the 'digital cinematography' (as they call it) and how 'real' it looked. If you don't know what it is, its essentially where they make a video game of the movie scene and film it.. CGI actors, CGI light sources. CGI settings and backgrounds, and completely controllable 360 deg 'digital' camera (i.e., the 'gamers' viewpoint). Great example of this is the Burly Brawl scene.. after awhile of Keanu and the Hugo's hashing it out, theres a distinct change to a video-game-like characterization of Keanu and the Hugo's and their fighting.
Anyway.. years ago it looked cutting-edge and -- while still obvious CGI -- it was impressive and exciting enough that it didnt matter. Years later after swallowing the disappointing end of the trilogy and watching it in 1080p on Blu.. its enough to make you laugh in embarrassment. It looks like I'm watching a FMV from Max Payne 2 or something. It's that washed out, that silly-looking, and that dated.
The Matrix Reloaded\Revolutions
I recall seeing these in the theaters and being in awe of the 'digital cinematography' (as they call it) and how 'real' it looked. If you dont't know what it is, its essentially where they make a video game of the movie scene and film it.. CGI actors, CGI light sources. CGI settings and backgrounds, and completely controllable 360 deg 'digital' camera (i.e., the 'gamers' viewpoint). Great example of this is the Bulry Brawl scene.. after awhile of Keanu and the Hugo's hashing it out, theres a distinct change to a video-game-like characterization of Neo and the Hugo's and their fighting.
Anyway.. years ago it look cutting-edge and while still obvious CGI was impressive and exciting enough that it didnt matter. Years later after swallowing the disappointing end of the trilogy and watching it in 1080p on Blu.. its enough to make you laugh in embarrassment. It looks like I'm watching a FMV from Max Payne 2 or something. It's that washed out, that silly-looking, and that dated.
Honestly, I always thought this scene looked bad. One of many reasons
I didn't like the sequels.
DarkSaturn 09-14-09, 11:07 AM The jaguar in Apocalypto looked pretty bad. Shame since the PQ is so good.
Todd Lee 09-14-09, 11:51 AM "Rambo II: you can see the pipe of the smoke generator in the helicopter as it struggles to return to base at the end."
I noticed that pipe on SD back in the 80's.
lwright84 09-14-09, 11:58 AM The first Harry Potter you can REALLY tell when it's a CGI person flying on a broom, versus a real person blue-screened on a CGI background. For example when Neville is flailing around and then falls and his cloak gets caught on the spike.
It wasn't nearly as noticeable in SD.
Twessell 09-14-09, 12:06 PM I second the StarTrek TOS nomination.
JDHuskey 09-14-09, 12:29 PM The Matrix Reloaded\Revolutions
I recall seeing these in the theaters and being in awe of the 'digital cinematography' (as they call it) and how 'real' it looked. If you don't know what it is, its essentially where they make a video game of the movie scene and film it.. CGI actors, CGI light sources. CGI settings and backgrounds, and completely controllable 360 deg 'digital' camera (i.e., the 'gamers' viewpoint). Great example of this is the Burly Brawl scene.. after awhile of Keanu and the Hugo's hashing it out, theres a distinct change to a video-game-like characterization of Keanu and the Hugo's and their fighting.
Anyway.. years ago it looked cutting-edge and -- while still obvious CGI -- it was impressive and exciting enough that it didnt matter. Years later after swallowing the disappointing end of the trilogy and watching it in 1080p on Blu.. its enough to make you laugh in embarrassment. It looks like I'm watching a FMV from Max Payne 2 or something. It's that washed out, that silly-looking, and that dated.
That scene always looked pretty bad to me.
TyrantII 09-14-09, 01:13 PM The Wizard of Oz.
Lots of set pieces and perspective issues that are even more apparent in HD.
Most noticeable one is Dorothy at the end of the first song, skipping down the yellow brick road right into a painted wall before the scene cuts to the next. She practically stops before the cut.
The Matrix Reloaded\Revolutions
I recall seeing these in the theaters and being in awe of the 'digital cinematography' (as they call it) and how 'real' it looked. If you don't know what it is, its essentially where they make a video game of the movie scene and film it.. CGI actors, CGI light sources. CGI settings and backgrounds, and completely controllable 360 deg 'digital' camera (i.e., the 'gamers' viewpoint). Great example of this is the Burly Brawl scene.. after awhile of Keanu and the Hugo's hashing it out, theres a distinct change to a video-game-like characterization of Keanu and the Hugo's and their fighting.
Anyway.. years ago it looked cutting-edge and -- while still obvious CGI -- it was impressive and exciting enough that it didnt matter. Years later after swallowing the disappointing end of the trilogy and watching it in 1080p on Blu.. its enough to make you laugh in embarrassment. It looks like I'm watching a FMV from Max Payne 2 or something. It's that washed out, that silly-looking, and that dated.
That scene looked terrible when it first came out and looks even worse now. I can't believe they went forward with the overzealous use of CGI philosophy. The first movie was so awesome because they blended it without it looking fake.
flakbait 09-14-09, 05:31 PM I'm sure that Wolverine's blades will be even more laughable (CG) for the Blu-Ray release of "X-men Origins: Wolverine" on 9/15/2009.
I just mentioned it in the Braveheart thread: time stamp 2:12:16... girl who is supposed to be crying over dead body after battle is laughing uncontrollably and it is so apparent on BD. Also when "Mel" is supposedly on his horse in some scenes it is so obvious it is the stuntman. The stunt doubles maybe the most revealing weakness when we see the detail we do on BD's.
Gladiator at the 9:44-45 mark has guys who are laughing and facing away from each other when they are supposed to be in a blood thirsty battle.
giantchicken 09-14-09, 06:58 PM Star Trek TOS. A lot of makeup back then.
The soft focus closeups of the female crew members have been standing out to me a lot more than they used to, since the normal shots are so clear now by comparison.
ti-triodes 09-14-09, 07:29 PM Star Trek TOS. A lot of makeup back then.
Shatner's makeup was always obvious. Kirk always looked like he put on a dress when he was off duty! :D
HD hasn't improved the look.
jwakaruk 09-14-09, 07:39 PM Terminator II
When Arnie's stunt double jumps off the overpass on the Harley
Morpheo 09-14-09, 09:51 PM Terminator II
When Arnie's stunt double jumps off the overpass on the Harley
This was visible even on vhs:p
jwakaruk 09-15-09, 01:27 AM This was visible even on vhs:p
So true. You first noticed it on VHS and every version since (about 15 of them) it just gets worse and worse.
JDHuskey 09-15-09, 01:30 AM Terminator II
When Arnie's stunt double jumps off the overpass on the Harley
Hah, I never saw that before but noticed it the first time I watched it on blu-ray. The face is very creepy looking in that scene, is that an actual persons face or a crappily done latex mask or something? Theres another scene right after that, where he zooms past the rig and grabs John off the bike, very obviously a stunt double.
lwright84 09-15-09, 08:15 AM Hah, I never saw that before but noticed it the first time I watched it on blu-ray. The face is very creepy looking in that scene, is that an actual persons face or a crappily done latex mask or something? Theres another scene right after that, where he zooms past the rig and grabs John off the bike, very obviously a stunt double.
Actually the shot where the camera is in front of them, looking back, and Arnie grabs the kid off his bike and pulls him onto his own while the big rig is literally right on their tail.. is probably one of the most impressive bluescreened CGI shots I've ever witnessed.
Kram Sacul 09-15-09, 08:41 AM That's actually a rear projection shot.
xraffle 09-15-09, 09:03 AM Iron Man
The part after Tony and Pepper dance and they almost kiss, you can see the globs of makeup on Gwyneth Paltrow's face.
Tweakophyte 09-15-09, 09:08 AM The funny thing is that all of these "defects" were visible in the movie theaters. I wonder how many of them were more tolerable because of the year they came out.
Usual Suspect 09-18-09, 08:29 AM Casino
Just before Robert DeNiro's car is blown up, you can see that there is actually a dummy sitting in the car.
Not that I'm surprised, mind you....;)
jorgerod 09-18-09, 09:03 AM Terminator II
When Arnie's stunt double jumps off the overpass on the Harley
That was so bad it reminded me of the show The A-team, when ever there was a fight they would switch to the stunt doubles and the George Peppard's double's wig would always move so you knew it was a stuntman.
Jorge
richiek 09-18-09, 02:56 PM I just mentioned it in the Braveheart thread: time stamp 2:12:16... girl who is supposed to be crying over dead body after battle is laughing uncontrollably and it is so apparent on BD. Also when "Mel" is supposedly on his horse in some scenes it is so obvious it is the stuntman. The stunt doubles maybe the most revealing weakness when we see the detail we do on BD's.
Braveheart was full of these types of continuity errors with extras. Hell, they even had Mel switching weapons two or three times in the opening battle. They were noticable in the DVD and even VHS versions.
Bleddyn H Williams 09-18-09, 04:13 PM Terminator II
When Arnie's stunt double jumps off the overpass on the Harley
I have to say that was obvious way back on the LASERDISC! :)
The funny thing is that all of these "defects" were visible in the movie theaters. I wonder how many of them were more tolerable because of the year they came out.
Visible, but probably not as obvious as at home. We have directors conceding that detail on Blu Ray at home reveals more than what big screen theatres do.
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