Hello guys

Is there such a thing like an Movie test dvd, with scenes only which is important to see the improvement of calibration efforts?

Or does anybody know scenes from Movies which is good for that?

I would like to make a collection in order to burn this on my own "TEST Disc"

Thnx for help fireskyer

I normally use "Home" to warm up a TV due to its full 16:9 picture and its visual impact, but I don't normally use it as a "reference disc" to show before and after elements. There are some good elements to use on the ISF/Monster disc, and a good before/after cal clips are offered on DVE that demonstrate the differences. A lot of folks use The Darknight for shadow detail etc (although you can find this on the DVE disc as well).

Static test patterns are specifically designed by imaging experts to reveal various picture quality components. They are simple, targeted, precise, and save time. Moving images are always more difficult when attempting to focus on image behavior. Areas of the picture that might reveal image characteristics change too rapidly for the viewer to examine what's going on. Moving images are good for judging some qualities of motion processing but not for the adjustments typically involved in the calibration process. There are even moving test signals specifically designed for this kind of analysis. The Spears and Munsil discs are superb for this category of images.

Imaging professionals use test pattern generators and discs for very good reasons. Follow their example. Of course, you must be educated in how to use the patterns, what to look for, and what to do to improve performance in specific areas of display behavior. The same education is required in attempting to use moving images, but the job is made for difficult for the reasons I've described.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
G. Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

Hm okay ... but i need some material for users they don't want to be an professional

and they dont know anything about patterns

So can you give me some movie scenes with a litte bit description what the scene is showing and how?
also scenes for motion processing are welcome:)


greetz and thnx for help fireskyer

Hm okay ... but i need some material for users they don't want to be an professional

and they dont know anything about patterns

So can you give me some movie scenes with a litte bit description what the scene is showing and how?
also scenes for motion processing are welcome:)


greetz and thnx for help fireskyer


Pixar movies have great color. I suggest CARs or Ratatouille. On the Blu-Ray software section there is a stickied list of movies with best picture quality (PQ). Anything in Tier 0 will be great demo material.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342

@voyager6:

Thnx, do you have some backgroundknowledge about the scenes and which
shows the technical advantages.

For example to understand:
Starwars Episode 3: The Story at the beginning shows how good the scaler works . ( someone told me)

Do you know more examples like this?

It would be great

Thnx fireskyer

Hello guys

Is there such a thing like an Movie test dvd, with scenes only which is important to see the improvement of calibration efforts?

Or does anybody know scenes from Movies which is good for that?

I would like to make a collection in order to burn this on my own "TEST Disc"

Thnx for help fireskyer

Fireskyer,

My first question is..are these images for demoing on your display?

Second...if they are not....I would recommend something in the customers colloection that he has seen before....this will give him or her an idea of the improvements.

RayJr

@voyager6:

Thnx, do you have some backgroundknowledge about the scenes and which
shows the technical advantages.

For example to understand:
Starwars Episode 3: The Story at the beginning shows how good the scaler works . ( someone told me)

Do you know more examples like this?

It would be great

Thnx fireskyer

As being tier 0 movies, they have little or no weaknesses in picture quality throughout. Just jump from chapter to chapter.

The opening scene in Cars is great, the night scenes as Lightning McQueen is on the highway are good, his destruction of the road in Radiator Springs is good. The turning on of the neon lights, the tractor tipping scene. The drive that he and Sally take to appreciate the area. Doc's high speed pass on the dirt track, the final race. Its all good. Great mixture of day, night, end of twilight scenes.

Ratatouille is good from beginning to end. I have watched it only twice. Cars and Spiderman 3 are my post-calibration check movies, and I've watched them at least 20 times. Spiderman 3 has variable flesh tones through out the movie. They start off pink, go brown then back to a weak pink at the end. I think that the outdoor shots had a different lighting (the sun) than the studio shots and they weren't the best match. I use Cars to check primary and secondary colors. Small changes in color settings cause major changes to reds, yellows and blues.

So can you give me some movie scenes with a litte bit description what the scene is showing and how?There is a chapter in the first 6 or so of the Blu-ray of The Dark Knight that starts with a man and woman sitting at a desk in court. I don't know how that scene looked exactly while mastering, but I would speculate that neither the man or woman would have looked crazy wrong as far as colors. But it is pretty easy to set things up so that the man looks too red, or the woman looks too green. Then there are people in the background of different ethnicities and as the scene progresses the defendant and his lawyers are shown and can also look very red with certain calibrations. So, while I don't know how it looked while mastering, like I said, I think it may be one of the better real scenes from content other than on test discs for checking color calibration.

I could change my mind if somebody steps in and says that after correct calibration on multiple displays the colors look like they are messed up in the source on this one though.

--Darin

The DVE disc have a segment in the 'DEmonstration' section with Joe Kane explaining what to look for and why they included the clips in the sequence. Great stuff!

okay thnx for all replies


more recommendations are welcome


greetz fireskyer

It would be nice to have someone just answer the question. The question is what DVD movies are the best to check post calibration results. DVD movies do not include test or calibration discs.

It would be nice to have someone just answer the question. The question is what DVD movies are the best to check post calibration results. DVD movies do not include test or calibration discs.

It is an unanswerable question.

I really like the Spears and Munsil montage footage, because it is extremely detailed, very realistic and natural looking, and because it was filmed locally so everyone has a real personal reference that they have seen in real life and can judge exactly what the footage is supposed to look like.

And I use some movie clips from DTS demo discs, primarily because I can put in one BD (BD load time being so slow on many players) and play a variety of different looking content very quickly.

But practically any well-done DVD or BD will do. It really depends what you're looking for, and generally to be honest for demo material you just want something that looks cool.

For testing, there are all kinds of different clips that I use for specific reasons, partially because they're torture tests.