The gods have smiled upon us today....digitalbits is reporting that FOX is going to announce Moulin Rouge for release in the coming weeks. At last....one of my favorite movies of all time & still one of the best DVD releases ever is getting it's 1080p due. I had a feeling it would be soon after seeing a clip of it in FOX's new Blu-ray trailer attached to Wolverine.

I also enjoy this movie. If they do it right, it should be a great blu-ray.

One of the most bizarre movies I've ever seen....with incredibly good singing by the principals. Who know Obi Wan Kenobi had such a voice???!!

This movie was an orgasm for the eyes when I saw it in the theaters. I hope it is the same on BD.

We recently watched it again as I wanted to see how good the Oppo BDP-83 would upscale it and could not believe how good the DVD looked. The Blu-ray version has the potential to be reference material both visually and aurally. Cause the DTS track was no slouch either. I'm so excited....would be nice to have this around Christmas. I want it now now NOW!!!

I've grown to really like and appreciate this movie. Plus, it's always a go-to choice when a group can't decide on a film (during my wife's golf league movie nights).

I like Baz Luhrmann but I never watched this because I don't like Mcgregor for some reason...same reason I haven't seen Big Fish. I might have to finally see this once it hits Blu-ray.

Looking forward to this one.

Probably a purchase for me. DTS-MA? Should be fantastic.

Day one for me, one of my fave movies. Hopefully the PQ (and particularly the AQ) are reference.

Sweet! I remember seeing this on HBO-HD right after I got HD eight years ago and it was major eye candy even on a small HD CRT. Always wanted to see it again but it never appeared on HBO after that first wave of airings, and then when I got BR I found it was not yet available. It should be a trip off BR on the much bigger screen I've got now.


ron

I wonder if my d-theater tape is worth anything now with this coming out on blu-ray. Great news!

Wonder if they will airbrush Nicole Kidman's face....

I wonder if my d-theater tape is worth anything now with this coming out on blu-ray. Great news!

Yeah, someone offered me $200 back in the day, probably should have taken the offer--still in the shrink wrap, for that special viewing.
I was a bit apprehensive as I detest the Pop songs that were used, but, excellent execution, I loved it, helped by the fact they also included a track from Lamb, a favorite band of mine.

I'd kill for MULHOLLAND DR. Wish I never sold my DTheater.

awesome. Love this flick

I just loved this film. The colours should really shine nicely on this disc and the sound should get a nice boost too.

you should see it. its worth a single watch even if you dont actually like the movie. just rent it and them post WOW it looked amazing. :D

{Channeling Craig Ferguson}
... 'And if you find that you don't like the movie, GO AND JOIN AL-QUAIDA!'
{/Channel}

:D

Interesting, I was startled to see clips of Moulin Rouge as part of the blu ray promo at the beginning of the X-Men Origins blu ray last night. I thought I had missed the release and jumped on AVS to fine out what was going on!

Interesting, I was startled to see clips of Moulin Rouge as part of the blu ray promo at the beginning of the X-Men Origins blu ray last night. I thought I had missed the release and jumped on AVS to fine out what was going on!

how did the clip look? I used to floor people with the old dvd back in the day on my good old Mits 55" Diamond RPTV, (ah, that was a good set...)

:confused:....what took Fox so long, oui? Moulin Rouge was one of the most eye popping titles on D-Theater tape.

I used to floor people with the old dvd back in the day on my good old Mits 55" Diamond RPTV, (ah, that was a good set...)

LOL. My 55" Mits is covered with a red sheet and is used as a place to put framed family photos! :D Too lazy to get rid of that dinosaur!

how did the clip look? I used to floor people with the old dvd back in the day on my good old Mits 55" Diamond RPTV, (ah, that was a good set...)

Not scientific, but just a couple of screen grabs...judge for yourself...
DVD
http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRdvd.jpg
Blu Ray promo (note the image is scaled and cropped to 16:9 in the promo as opposed to the 2.35:1(?) OAR)
http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRblu.jpg

Can you grab a comparison shot of her on the swing? I know it's a really brief clip but the sequins on her costume really showed alot more detail.

Soft focus was used all throughout the film for Kidman.

DAMN GREAT NEWS!!!!! I'm a Ewan McGregor super fan and loved this movie so this will be a day one purchase for me. Ewan and Nicole both have great voices and the visuals in this film were pretty impressive too.

Can you grab a comparison shot of her on the swing? I know it's a really brief clip but the sequins on her costume really showed alot more detail.

Little more difficult to do because of the motion blur in the shot and the sharpest frame is obscured a bit in the promo because of the fade shot they created for the promo:

http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRdvd1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRblu1.jpg

Both fortunately and unfortunately, this movie is going to be yet another day 1 purchase for me....

Great movie,great songs,great performance in this film ,unlike Australia as night and day by the same director and studio.

Little more difficult to do because of the motion blur in the shot and the sharpest frame is obscured a bit in the promo because of the fade shot they created for the promo:

http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRdvd1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jimsoubra/MRblu1.jpg






Yeah I figured it would be very difficult to get a screengrab of that shot...it is pretty stunning in motion albeit very brief.

I watched my D-Theater tape last night....magnifico....I'm gonna trade up for the Master audio though....

I see this is now a pre-order with Amazon, which is great news. Anyone have any ideas on release dates?

I need to see screens before I buy, all that messing with the picture riles me up

I see this is now a pre-order with Amazon, which is great news. Anyone have any ideas on release dates?

According to http://www.releaselists.com/index.html, "late October early November".

-Bill

It's official! October 19th! One week before the mega Alien release! This is one of my all time top 5 movies! I cannot wait for this one!!!!!!

http://digitalbits.com/#mytwocents

I will now gladly sell my D-Theater tape. Thanks for the GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!
It's going to be an expensive couple of weeks.

Tom

The perfomances and song choices in this film are great. By far, my favorite Baz Luhrman film.

I hope the bitrate is through the roof -- some of those scenes with glitter and confetti really need it.

Wow.. just some screenshots on highdefdiscnews.. Based on the screenshots/review, i just Pre-ordered from Amazon and I'm set to receive it on release day! :)

This disc sounds great based on this review http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=52985

Also, there is an nteresting audio interview with Baz Luhrmann about the creation of the blu-ray http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=53149

Now we need the John Huston picture with Jose Ferrer. It has an odd look; highly saturated Technicolor yet kind'a dreamy looking.

Wow! The screenshots for this one look crazy good. THIS is what film on Blu-ray is supposed to look like.

THIS is what film on Blu-ray is supposed to look like.
+1
Looks superb. I wish more directors would take this much care with their older films on home video.

Romeo + Juliet looks just as good: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/William-Shakespeares-Romeo-and-Juliet-Blu-ray/8134/#Review

I don't even really like that movie and I'm half-way thinking about buying it.

I don't even really like that movie and I'm half-way thinking about buying it.

I had the exact same thought!:)

It looks very good, but a shame they didn't do a 4K scan of the original camera negative especially for this film. With the plethora of visual information the wide shot can't help but looking to struggle with the information present.

It looks very good, but a shame they didn't do a 4K scan of the original camera negative especially for this film. With the plethora of visual information the wide shot can't help but looking to struggle with the information present.
What makes you think that's not exactly what they did?

To reproduce all the work done already would be very expensive. All the efx vendors would have to redo all the work done. As well as the color timing and scanning.

I guess it is possible the OCN was re-scanned @ 4k but for all the composited shots they worked off the 2k completed file.

What makes you think that's not exactly what they did?

From what I can see on the screen. Digital remastering to be precise. Lurman talks about the fella that did the color grading and so forth but as well comparing screenshots to the dvd there isn't a tremendous amount of extra detail popping up and that is the first thing a good 4K scan is going to show and many shots just look plain soft.

From what I can see on the screen. Digital remastering to be precise. Lurman talks about the fella that did the color grading and so forth but as well comparing screenshots to the dvd there isn't a tremendous amount of extra detail popping up and that is the first thing a good 4K scan is going to show and many shots just look plain soft.
The press release specifically said MR and Romeo+Juliet were remastered from the OCN, though it doesn't mention the resolution. This movie has a ton of visual effects and opticals that suffer from generation loss, but many of the shots also have tremendous detail, so I'm not really sure what your complaint here is. A 4K scan won't pick up detail that isn't there due to generation loss or because it wasn't laid down by the lens.

Whoever put together the special feature packages for these BDs of Moulin Rouge! and Romeo+Juliet needs to be beaten with a stick. Quite a lot of interesting material but most of it is window-boxed into a little postage stamp video inside a decorative 1080p static frame and the content is broken up into dozens of short little segments. Definitely still worthwhile to go through, but the process is slightly torturous. Ugh.

Whoever put together the special feature packages for these BDs of Moulin Rouge! and Romeo+Juliet needs to be beaten with a stick. Quite a lot of interesting material but most of it is window-boxed into a little postage stamp video inside a decorative 1080p static frame and the content is broken up into dozens of short little segments. Definitely still worthwhile to go through, but the process is slightly torturous. Ugh.

What do you think of the overall quality of the encode?

What do you think of the overall quality of the encode?
I think it looks fantastic, much better than I was expecting for some reason. Ralph Potts does a nice job of describing it in his review (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19345017#post19345017).

Here is the BDInfo for anyone interested:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=19363488&postcount=2179

And also for Romeo+Juliet:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=19363466&postcount=2178

Both releases are region free.

I watched MR the other day and it looks pretty much perfect (except for the FX shots). The grain is rendered flawlessly and could easily be a 4K scan.

I'm starting to think that film as a capture medium hasn't progressed much in the last 10 years, because there's a bunch of BDs now of ~10 year old movies that easily look like they could have been shot yesterday. There's no reason an early 2000 big budget film should look poor (I'm looking at you Fellowship of the Ring).

Both releases are region free.

And just like Alienses and Rocky Horror, the back covers say Region A. But Last of the Mohicans and Predators are locked so I guess there's no rhyme or reason.

Whoever put together the special feature packages for these BDs of Moulin Rouge! and Romeo+Juliet needs to be beaten with a stick. Quite a lot of interesting material but most of it is window-boxed into a little postage stamp video inside a decorative 1080p static frame and the content is broken up into dozens of short little segments.
Standard def inside a window-box? Why do so many reviews tout the extras as being in high-def?

Standard def inside a window-box? Why do so many reviews tout the extras as being in high-def?
Technically speaking, they are indeed encoded at 1.78:1 AVC 1080p24 - just that the video is not presented full width/height, but instead is in a small window surrounded by a decorative frame. To make things even more fun, these little video windows have interlacing comb artifacts baked in from the SD sources. Really, it would've been much nicer if they just kept them as 480i60 files at 4:3 or 16:9 as appropriate.

Here's a couple example featurette screenshots that hopefully make what I'm talking about clearer:


http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/moulin-rouge/15419/xtra-640-01.jpg
(http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/moulin-rouge/15419/xtra-lrg-01.png)

http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/moulin-rouge/15419/xtra-640-02.jpg
(http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/moulin-rouge/15419/xtra-lrg-02.png)


I don't think this should discourage anyone from picking up this release since the main feature presentation is really quite nice, I just found the implementation of the extras annoying.

Since I'm here, I might as well also post a link to some screen captures I took of the film itself:
http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/movies/screenshots/moulin-rouge?movieid=15419#top

Do R+J next please, Chris. Moulin Rouge looks outstanding save for a few of the effects shots. It looks wonderfully filmic.

Moulin Rouge looks wonderful!!! but Romeo and Juliet suffers from some very apparent blocking definitely an encoding problem there. But again Moulin Rouge is GREAT!

I take everything I said bad about this title back. I have a button that changes the resolution on my remote and must have hit it by accident the other day so i was watching the movie in 480p. Detail was my main complaint and with the resolution back to 1080 my god is this a gorgeous transfer. Easily a 4K scan from the OCN. Stunning transfer. Massive jump from the dvd.

I take everything I said bad about this title back. I have a button that changes the resolution on my remote and must have hit it by accident the other day so i was watching the movie in 480p.

Yeah, I guess that would make a difference, lol.

:D

I take everything I said bad about this title back. I have a button that changes the resolution on my remote and must have hit it by accident the other day so i was watching the movie in 480p. Detail was my main complaint and with the resolution back to 1080 my god is this a gorgeous transfer. Easily a 4K scan from the OCN. Stunning transfer. Massive jump from the dvd.

:) I wasn't going to argue with you until I watched it for myself because all I had seen were screens. Well at least we have a thread where everyone agrees that they are seeing quality...Fox spent the time on this and it shows..unlike other supposed "remasters" :)

Well at least we have a thread where everyone agrees that they are seeing quality...

Probably why this thread in only three pages long... nobody has anything to complain about!:D

Probably why this thread in only three pages long... nobody has anything to complain about!:D
There's plenty to complain about wrt the crappy SD extras. But I don't care cuz I have the 2-disc special DVD edition with almost all that stuff already, and "SD done right" rather than window-boxed. :p

Probably why this thread in only three pages long... nobody has anything to complain about!:D

I will complain if the sound still fades out. That has bugged me for years. The first vocal fade was at 11:27 on DVD. Some people say that the lead singer is meant to fade out there, but I don't like it anyway.

Technically speaking, they are indeed encoded at 1.78:1 AVC 1080p24 - just that the video is not presented full width/height, but instead is in a small window surrounded by a decorative frame. To make things even more fun, these little video windows have interlacing comb artifacts baked in from the SD sources. Really, it would've been much nicer if they just kept them as 480i60 files at 4:3 or 16:9 as appropriate.

Meh ... doesn't bother me that much, at least it saves some wear and tear on my age'd CRT.

Watched the "Father&Son" bit ... I think Yosef/Cat did Baz a huge favor by refusing to let them use the song. Painful to watch .... and way too long ...

There's plenty to complain about wrt the crappy SD extras. But I don't care cuz I have the 2-disc special DVD edition with almost all that stuff already, and "SD done right" rather than window-boxed. :p

Actually due to the extremely low resolution of the extras being non anamorphic dvd they look better windowboxed. I watched the extended can can dance which is fantastic and really wish they could have transferred these to high def from the 35mm film even in a 1.9K scan. Going from 4K scanned bluray to a non anamorphic dvd scene is painful to watch. The scene is essentially 270 x 720 and blowing that up 820 x 1920 is pretty rough viewing.

I think it looks and sounds amazing. And the fact that baz oversaw all the transfer makes me wonder why all directors can't take pride in their transfers....just a thought

I think it looks and sounds amazing. And the fact that baz oversaw all the transfer makes me wonder why all directors can't take pride in their transfers....just a thought
I'm sure they'd want to be paid for their time. And I'm just as sure that the studios don't want to pay them. It's precious few directors who have rights over their masters like Cameron does, for example.

The audio was really good on the DVD but it is even better here! The movie never looked nor sounded better. Probably not even in the the theater!