sorry.....didnt know where to put this thread.....question is.....how can you get movies that are on an internal hard drive to view on your television...

thanks

andy

meant to say external hard drive......


andy

We will need a WHOLE lot more information to even begin to comment. What equipment do you have? What connections does your equipment support? How was the movie recorded? Tell us every scrap of information you can think of.

I have a philips dvdr3575h/37 connected to my mitsubishi hd 1080 projection TV...the tv has an s-video connection with input and output ports...model number ws 55807....my philips is the only unit carrying a USB input jack....so...very little to deal with...appreciate any help

thanks

andy

I want to put my home movies on a external hard drive for safekeeping....I currently have them on dvd's but some are breaking up.....but once I get them on the external hard drive I want to be able to watch them on my tv

One way is to hook the external hard drive to a computer and have it play the stuff and send the signal to the TV. Another possibility is a media streamer like Popcorn Hour.

I want to put my home movies on a external hard drive for safekeeping....I currently have them on dvd's but some are breaking up.....but once I get them on the external hard drive I want to be able to watch them on my tv
One option: You can pull the current HDD and replace it with another IDE or SATA HDD relatively easily.

Or you can pull the internal HDD and NOT install another one, instead opting to go completely external with an HDD "farm" where you can swap HDDs in and out to watch thru the DVDR. They'll also be portable for watching thru other PhilMag DVDRs in other places/rooms.

See Pioneer #5 here for info an the external "farm" of HDDs. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12355769&postcount=39#HDDpioneers)

Of course, if you work out a method to play the external HDDs thru your computer, it's another option?

Note: See that linked help file for a "Quote" box with info on Hitachi Deskstar HDDs (the kind in the Mag 2160) and a Google study of HDD Failure Rates... very interesting and enlightening.

I want to put my home movies on a external hard drive for safekeeping....I currently have them on dvd's but some are breaking up.....but once I get them on the external hard drive I want to be able to watch them on my tv

What do you mean "breaking up" The disk are starting to break? Or The recordings are not playing well in a DVD player? Are you using a PC to transfer them to the Hard Drive?

I want to put my home movies on a external hard drive for safekeeping....I currently have them on dvd's but some are breaking up.....but once I get them on the external hard drive I want to be able to watch them on my tv


Might I suggest:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=39

An entire forum for digital media players. Connect the player to the TV, plug your external drive into the player and all of your files play on the TV. There is a big selection of players with prices varying from about $100 and up.

Storing content on a hard drive for safekeeping is not safe; storing on good quality disks is much safer.

I agree with yonder, if you use a good quality disc like Ty's they should be good for many years of use/storage. Otherwise Wajo's idea sounds like the best solution since you already have a 3575. That is use the disc farm method. In fact that was my plan to store HD with the DTVPal DVR until they nixed the USB HDD option:(
I've read reports(I believe in this forum) stating contrary to general belief HDD storage is not as long term as DVD storage, unless the HDD drive is used somewhat occasionally. Another problem with HDD storage is if you have even one HDD failure it can be like 100's of DVDs all failing. Personally I'd rather risk the occasional DVD failure.

Picture breakup can have several different causes: the blank DVDs you used may not have been best quality, the optical drive in your Phillips may be wearing out so it no longer plays discs well, if you are playing the DVDs in something other than your Phillips that device might not "like" the discs your Phillips creates, etc, etc. To test if its a recorder/player issue, buy some archival-quality DVD-Rs. Burn them on the Phillips and then try to play them on your PC and every other DVD player you can try (friends, relatives). If they play badly on many players, the burner in your Phillips may be wearing out and producing poor burns. Also try playing your existing "bad" discs on many other players: if they play OK on other players but not in the Phillips then again, the Phillips disc drive may be wearing out. The burners in most DVD/HDD recorders have a lifespan of 2-3 years at most, if you use them a lot. (Some Panasonic drives can be cleaned and made to work reliably for much longer, but in general DVD/HDD recorders lose reliable burning ability within three years of purchase.)

Hard drive storage by itself is not reliable for long term archiving, because its contradictory: hard drives need to spin frequently to prevent them freezing up and going bad from sitting idle too long, but the more you use a hard drive the more chance it will develop problems. Hard drives recorded by the Phillips (or any other recorder) can only be played by that model of recorder, they can't be played using a PC or generic media player, so you also risk those recordings becoming unplayable if the recorder breaks and you can't replace it (model discontinued, company went out of business, etc.) Hard drives do have the advantage of high capacity, so you can use them per the tips linked here as convenient batch storage, but you also need to have the video backed up on high quality archival DVDs.

Archival-quality blank DVDs for DVD recorder use are no longer available at retail. The best you might find in stores is Verbatim 16x DVD-R: it is well-made media, but like other 16x its designed for high-speed PC burning so tends not to burn well in the slower burners used in DVD recorders. For long-term storage, it is best to order archival media online from media specialists like Rima.com or Supermediastore.com. Taiyo Yuden (TY) 8x Silver Lacquer Premium DVD-R and Verbatim 8x DataLife Plus DVD-R are the two most reliable disc types for long-term storage, because they are made with stable "old school" slower 8x dyes that DVD recorders can burn more accurately and easily. (With cheap random store-boght 16x discs, you can get fooled: they will burn well enough to play a few times but after they sit awhile the borderline "bad" burn can drift just enough that the disc becomes less playable.)

Once you have good-quality DVDs burned, you can put them in a PC and copy the files into a standard HDD format any computer or media player would understand. If you did that, you'd have both DVDs and easily-played compatible files on a PC-standard hard drive. Many advanced AVS members choose this kind of "two-for-one" storage combination.

I like the idea ...See Pioneer #5 here for info an the external "farm" of HDDs..AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB SATA, 1TB SATA, 500 GB 2.5" NOTEBOOK SATA....anyone from oceanside, calif or near and could use a little money who can do this...

thanks andy

I like the idea ...See Pioneer #5 here for info an the external "farm" of HDDs..AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB SATA, 1TB SATA, 500 GB 2.5" NOTEBOOK SATA....anyone from oceanside, calif or near and could use a little money who can do this...

thanks andy

I don't want to be a wet blanket but do you really want to tie up your entire video collection to an orphan technology? When your 3575 dies, will there be another machine that is able to read the format? Will you ever want to start using HD quality?

Just asking.

ok.....confusing time....what I plan on doing is getting my VHS/dvd tapes and putting them on hard drives.....the dvd tapes that I made from my VHS tapes are starting to deteriate.....breaking up as you watch....hence the hard drives...the dvd tapes were good quality...so...dont know if they were bad or it was the dvd recorder which I doubt...you can watch some tv programs and see the breakage on some of the movies as well.....what does the 3575 have to do with watching tapes from the hard drive onto the TV....I really dont know about the processing of tapes so excuse my questions....I dont want to lose my home movies ....were talking 80 years of old folk like me on tapes....thanks for your time

andy

What DD1 is saying is if you use your 3575 to record to HDDs, those HDDs will only be playable in a 3575(and maybe 3576). You won't be able to hook the HDD up to a standard computer or another brand DVDR. This is a good point to think about. If wanting to record to HDDs in a standard PC format you'll probably have to get some type of PC capture card and hook your player to your computer.

AFA your skipping discs, first you need to determine if it's your discs or your player. Have you tried your discs on another player and do they skip on that player too? If they do and you know your discs played correctly at one time, your discs might have started deteriorating. What type (+-R or RW) and brand disc did you use? Memorex DVDs are know to start deteriorating after only a year or two, other higher quality R discs should last much longer. I really wouldn't suggest RW discs for archiving either, they're meant more for short term storage.

what is a good quality disc to record from my philips dvd recorder that will last a very very long time.....

thanks

andy

what is a good quality disc to record from my philips dvd recorder that will last a very very long time.....

thanks

andy

Taiyo Yuden Premium Line 8x DVD-R found here:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media-100-pack.html

Taiyo Yuden Premium Line 8x DVD-R found here:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media-100-pack.html

If you are going to all the trouble of copying your discs, save a copy of the iso files and store them on a hard drive or make two copies on seperate hard drives.

This gives you several options. The iso file gives you a backup that you can use to burn a new dvd. You can mount the iso file and play it directly on a computer. You can connect the hard drive to a digital media player and play it directly to a computer. If you want to save space, you can convert your dvds to divx. This will play on the computer and many dvd players.

I think rather than paying for a new card for the computer, he can rip the dvds created by the 3575 directly to the computer.

Sorry, I responded to the wrong post digago. I meant to respond to jjef.

I think rather than paying for a new card for the computer, he can rip the dvds created by the 3575 directly to the computer.That is the most logical course. For whatever reason, PC burners seem to be much better quality than the ones you find in a DVDR. They will read disks that are starting to fade that fail to read on a recorder. Last year, I had a group of Memorex disks that were burned circa 2004 that wouldn't play on my DVD players. My PC burners were easily able to rip and re-burn the images to T-Y 8x premium media without problem.

ok.....confusing time....what I plan on doing is getting my VHS/dvd tapes and putting them on hard drives.....the dvd tapes that I made from my VHS tapes are starting to deteriate.....breaking up as you watch....hence the hard drives...the dvd tapes were good quality...so...dont know if they were bad or it was the dvd recorder which I doubt...you can watch some tv programs and see the breakage on some of the movies as well.....what does the 3575 have to do with watching tapes from the hard drive onto the TV....I really dont know about the processing of tapes so excuse my questions....I dont want to lose my home movies ....were talking 80 years of old folk like me on tapes....thanks for your time

andy

Are these DVD tapes: DV tapes? What did you use to transfer from VHS?

The 3575 is a recorder that will let you temporarily "store" your movies and shows onto a hard drive. Then you will have to record from the 3575's hard drive onto good quality Taiyo DISC's. If you or someone you know has a computer you can then use the computer to make more DVD copies or put iso copies onto internal or external hard drives. That way you can make more DVD copies later. The 3575's hard drive will run out of room and you will have to start erasing titles so you can add more titles, but if you add hard drives to your 3575, you are asking for trouble if your 3575 goes and there are no longer any to replace it. Putting the information from the DISC you create in the 3575 onto a computer is a better long term strategy. You should also purchase a seperate DVD DISC player to hook up to your TV to watch the DISC you created in your 3575 instead of using the 3575 to watch them.

Most of the people here have multiple DVDR's of the same type that they can use for backup in case one fails. They have been purchased over the period of several years. It is getting harder to do that. Unless you are planning on getting several 3575's; or several of anything else that is available; you can use for parts, using a computer to make back up copies would be the best way to go.

sounds like I will be burning my dvd's to my computer's external hard drive.....I will also check out the Taiyo Yuden Premium Line 8x DVD-R.....my main objective is to save my home movies....probably on the dvd's and backup on an external hard drive.......thanks for all your input

andy

I still like the idea of See Pioneer #5 here for info an the external "farm" of HDDs..AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB SATA, 1TB SATA, 500 GB 2.5" NOTEBOOK SATA....if I new what I was doing....I would go that route.....