View Full Version : 2009 NFL Week 3- Television Coverage Maps, NFL ST, etc.


homcom
09-22-09, 01:31 PM
The coverage maps for week 3 have been posted for the games on CBS and FOX. All games will be in HD with 1 games on NBC, 1 on ESPN, 7 on FOX, and 7 on CBS.

The maps and all the hard work of putting them together were done by J.P. Kirby, more information can be found at his website, http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/

CBS 1 PM
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2009/03-CBS-E.html
CBS 4:15 PM
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2009/03-CBS-L.html
FOX
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2009/03-FOX.html

Regional HD games for Week 3: (DirecTV Sunday Ticket HD channel number)

Kansas City (0-2) at Philadelphia (1-1)
-CBS 1:00 PM (706-1) Kevin Harlan, Solomon Wilcots
Jacksonville (0-2) at Houston (1-1)
-CBS 1:00 PM (705-1) Bill Macatee, Steve Beuerlein
Cleveland (0-2) at Baltimore (2-0)
-CBS 1:00 PM (704-1) Gus Johnson, Steve Tasker
Tennessee (0-2) at NY Jets (2-0)
-CBS 1:00 PM (707-1) Greg Gumbel, Dan Dierdorf
Washington (1-1) at Detroit (0-2)
-FOX 1:00 PM (708-1) Thom Brennaman, Brian Billick
Green Bay (1-1) at St. Louis (0-2)
-FOX 1:00 PM (711-1) Chris Myers, Trent Green
NY Giants (2-0) at Tampa Bay (0-2)
-FOX 1:00 PM (712-1) Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston, Tony Siragusa
San Francisco (2-0) at Minnesota (2-0)
-FOX 1:00 PM (709-1) Sam Rosen, Tim Ryan
Atlanta (2-0) at New England (1-1)
-FOX 1:00 PM (710-1) Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Pam Oliver
Chicago (1-1) at Seattle (1-1)
-FOX 4:05 PM (714-1) Dick Stockton, Charles Davis
New Orleans (2-0) at Buffalo (1-1)
-FOX 4:05 PM (713-1) Ron Pitts, John Lynch
Denver (2-0) at Oakland (1-1)
-CBS 4:15 PM (716-1) Ian Eagle, Rich Gannon
Pittsburgh (1-1) at Cincinnati (1-1)
-CBS 4:15 PM (715-1) Jim Nantz, Phil Simms
Miami (0-2) at San Diego (1-1)
-CBS 4:15 PM (717-1) Dick Enberg, Dan Fouts


National HD games for Week 3:

Indianapolis (2-0) at Arizona (1-1)
-NBC 8:20 PM Al Michaels, Cris Collinsworth, Andrea Kremer
Carolina (0-2) at Dallas (1-1)
-ESPN 8:30 PM Monday Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski, Jon Gruden, Suzy Kolber & Michele Tafoya


Over the air stations for Cable Game:

Carolina: WCNC
Dallas: KTXA


All times are Eastern.

Enjoy the games!

pip11
09-22-09, 05:48 PM
I'm surprised at how much nationwide play DEN@OAK is getting in CBS' late slot. For every part of the west with no team affiliation, it seems odd to pick an iffy AFC West matchup rather than a Steelers game.
I wonder, if CBS had known DEN@OAK would be carried so widely, would they have put a higher-string announcing team on it?
As always, thanks for the post.

dcowboy7
09-22-09, 05:55 PM
I'm surprised at how much nationwide play DEN@OAK is getting in CBS' late slot. For every part of the west with no team affiliation, it seems odd to pick an iffy AFC West matchup rather than a Steelers game.
I wonder, if CBS had known DEN@OAK would be carried so widely, would they have put a higher-string announcing team on it?
As always, thanks for the post.

Only 15% of the population is getting that game.
Its a big area but not mucho people out there.

Props to reganbuffalo at the map site....here are the % of population getting the games:

CBS early:
Tenn-NYJ 34.847
Phi-KC 41.292
Cle-Bal 7.374
Jax-Hou 8.576
No game 7.912

CBS late:
Pit-Cin 54.570
Mia-SD 27.961
Den-Oak 15.321
No game 2.148

Fox:
Atl-NE 38.012
NYG-TB 16.603
SF-Min 10.290
Wash-Det 7.326
GB-StL 4.440
NO-Buf 13.153
Chi-Sea 10.176

humdinger70
09-22-09, 06:44 PM
Any word on blackouts?

baja7475
09-22-09, 07:43 PM
i'm not sure who is wrong. But I live in Atascadero CA, the map says i'm suppsed to get the SF game but the tv listing has a movie at 10 on Sunday. Any thoughts?

Kevin12586
09-22-09, 09:53 PM
This will be weird, not since 1984 have both the Giants and Jets played at the same time. Being a Giants fan, I know which game will be my primary at 1pm :D

humdinger70
09-23-09, 11:09 AM
This will be weird, not since 1984 have both the Giants and Jets played at the same time. Being a Giants fan, I know which game will be my primary at 1pm :D

They moved the Jets game up (as well as the Yankees game on ESPN) to 1:00 PM to allow people in the metro New York area to get home in time for Yom Kippur (a major Jewish religious observance), which starts at sundown on Sunday.

TravelFan1
09-23-09, 03:32 PM
This will be weird, not since 1984 have both the Giants and Jets played at the same time. Being a Giants fan, I know which game will be my primary at 1pm :D
What I'll do is to record the Jets game and watch it after the G-men game's over.

Berk32
09-23-09, 03:43 PM
What I'll do is to record the Jets game and watch it after the G-men game's over.

good luck avoiding score updates while watching the giants game.

TravelFan1
09-23-09, 05:13 PM
good luck avoiding score updates while watching the giants game.
Yeah, I'll have to see how it works on Sun. Probably I'll skip the halftime. During the games, I usually ignore the bars(bottom or top) with the scores from other matches anyway. Option #2 will be to do a split pip on the screen.

TravelFan1
09-23-09, 05:24 PM
They moved the Jets game up (as well as the Yankees game on ESPN) to 1:00 PM to allow people in the metro New York area to get home in time for Yom Kippur (a major Jewish religious observance), which starts at sundown on Sunday.
Pardon my religious ignorance in advance. During Yom Kippur, can one watch TV? If not, then this move makes sense. If one can watch TV during Yom Kippur, then Giants at Tampa should have been at a different time - Actually, couldn't one of the games be on Monday Night? Isn't Yom Kippur over by sundown on Monday?

Berk32
09-23-09, 05:42 PM
Pardon my religious ignorance in advance. During Yom Kippur, can one watch TV? If not, then this move makes sense. If one can watch TV during Yom Kippur, then Giants at Tampa should have been at a different time - Actually, couldn't one of the games be on Monday Night? Isn't Yom Kippur over by sundown on Monday?

The move had nothing to do with TV audience.

The Jets wanted their home game moved earlier so that their Yom-Kippur-observant fans could attend. The majority of those fans (not all... people have different levels of observance obviously) already missed out on the home opener last Sunday on Rosh Hashanah, so losing out on 2 of 8 games is a pretty big deal (especially the only 2 home games in decent weather....)

The obvious counter move would've been to shift the Giants-Tampa game to 4pm - but its possible Tampa said no, or the league just felt there was no need to do it, since the idea of not allowing 2 NY games on at the same time probably isn't backed-up with ratings.

(and moving a game to monday once its already scheduled is usually out of the question to the NFL unless its an emergency - thats why flex scheduling later in the season doesn't involve monday games)

And as for your Yom Kippur question - most who observe attend Synagogue services on Sunday evening and most (or all) of Monday. Whether or not one can watch TV isn't really of significance, since one who wouldn't won't even be at home to do it anyways. Yes it is over by ~7:30 Monday evening - but those people affected aren't going to rush to a football game right afterwards.... eating is priority #1 (and since you live in the NY area you'd know - it's not like a person can get to the Meadowlands in under an hour from just about anywhere in the area)

TravelFan1
09-23-09, 05:51 PM
my question was more in the line of why one of the 2 games wasn't ORIGINALLY scheduled for Monday, i.e., when the NFL came with the schedule back whenver-they-came with the schedule.

Berk32
09-23-09, 05:56 PM
my question was more in the line of why one of the 2 games wasn't ORIGINALLY scheduled for Monday, i.e., when the NFL came with the schedule back whenver-they-came with the schedule.

The league obviously didn't take it into account - they do the scheduling - not the team. And the league for the most part doesn't schedule the Monday Night games - ESPN picks them after the preliminary weekly schedule is set.

And now the league will know in the future to take these things into account once every few years when these Jewish Holy Days come out on the weekend.

(o - also - Monday/Thursday Night games at the Meadowlands are not allowed until they finish the new stadium - lack of parking + weeknight traffic = baaaaaaaaaaaaaad)

dcowboy7
09-23-09, 06:09 PM
The league obviously didn't take it into account - they do the scheduling - not the team. And the league for the most part doesn't schedule the Monday Night games - ESPN picks them after the preliminary weekly schedule is set.

And now the league will know in the future to take these things into account once every few years when these Jewish Holy Days come out on the weekend.

(o - also - Monday/Thursday Night games at the Meadowlands are not allowed until they finish the new stadium - lack of parking + weeknight traffic = baaaaaaaaaaaaaad)

- Giants/Jets can play thursday just need a special exemption....1 year ago the giants opened the season on thursday nite because they won the SB....but yea its a b**** parking etc.

- I think its more of a give & take between the NFL & ESPN since ESPN gets the 'B' package games now as opposed to SNF....thats why teams like cowboys, steelers, giants, pats, colts are only on MNF once while they are on SNF 2 or 3 times + flex.

Berk32
09-23-09, 06:19 PM
- Giants/Jets can play thursday just need a special exemption....1 year ago the giants opened the season on thursday nite because they won the SB....but yea its a b**** parking etc.

- I think its more of a give & take between the NFL & ESPN since ESPN gets the 'B' package games now as opposed to SNF....thats why teams like cowboys, steelers, giants, pats, colts are only on MNF once while they are on SNF 2 or 3 times + flex.

-I do believe there was a fight last year over that Thursday night opener - they have to rent extra parking lots in the area which they can only do on sundays...

-Which network gets first pick wasn't really the point - the schedule for the most part comes first, then the networks pick their games (certain games are probably set beforehand, like Thanksgiving)

dcowboy7
09-23-09, 06:43 PM
-I do believe there was a fight last year over that Thursday night opener - they have to rent extra parking lots in the area which they can only do on sundays...

-Which network gets first pick wasn't really the point - the schedule for the most part comes first, then the networks pick their games (certain games are probably set beforehand, like Thanksgiving)

Yep they paid $$ to businesses for those parking spots....that always works.

Yep....i was just saying that even if ESPN wanted the pats/colts game this year there was no way they were getting it.

Well we know Thanksgiving 2010 will be:
NE or NYJ @ DET - 12:30 on CBS
NFC team @ DAL - 4:15 on FOX
who knows @ who knows - 8:20 on NFLN :D

mikepier
09-23-09, 08:55 PM
I hope they switch the CBS late game in NYC to PIT/CIN. Seems more intruiging than MIA/SD which is not even divisional matchup. Yeah it involves the AFC east with Miami, but PIT/CIN would be exciting to watch.
They are actually showing it in upstate NY around Binghamton & Oneonta. Hopefully they'll stretch the coverage down to NYC.

AlanSaysYo
09-24-09, 09:58 AM
Yeah, I'll have to see how it works on Sun. Probably I'll skip the halftime. During the games, I usually ignore the bars(bottom or top) with the scores from other matches anyway. Option #2 will be to do a split pip on the screen.

More power to you... when I try to avoid score updates during preseason games, I usually only last about five minutes or so. I normally don't look at those bars at all, but when I know I'm not supposed to, they attract my eyes like magnets.

baja7475
09-24-09, 02:30 PM
i'm not sure who is wrong. But I live in Atascadero CA, the map says i'm suppsed to get the SF game but the tv listing has a movie at 10 on Sunday. Any thoughts?

Answering myself.... Tv listings just changed today to reflect the SF game on the local Fox affiliate. That puts more confidence that I can rely on the map when it comes out so I can set up my DVR ahead of time. cooollll.

jefbal99
09-24-09, 03:18 PM
As expected, Lions will be blacked out...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4500240

TravelFan1
09-24-09, 03:19 PM
I hope they switch the CBS late game in NYC to PIT/CIN. Seems more intruiging than MIA/SD which is not even divisional matchup. Yeah it involves the AFC east with Miami, but PIT/CIN would be exciting to watch.
They are actually showing it in upstate NY around Binghamton & Oneonta. Hopefully they'll stretch the coverage down to NYC.
I second that!

baja7475
09-24-09, 05:13 PM
ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) - The Oakland Raiders' home game against the Denver Broncos will be blacked out locally because the team did not sell out the game in time.

Games need to be sold out 72 hours before kickoff to avoid a blackout in a 75-mile radius. The Raiders got a one-day extension to sell out the opener against San Diego but were unable to avoid the blackout against the Broncos.

The Raiders have had two games blacked out each season since taking over ticket sales from Alameda County before the 2006 season. This marks the first division game blacked out during that time

baja7475
09-24-09, 05:31 PM
ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) - The Oakland Raiders' home game against the Denver Broncos will be blacked out locally because the team did not sell out the game in time.

Games need to be sold out 72 hours before kickoff to avoid a blackout in a 75-mile radius. The Raiders got a one-day extension to sell out the opener against San Diego but were unable to avoid the blackout against the Broncos.

The Raiders have had two games blacked out each season since taking over ticket sales from Alameda County before the 2006 season. This marks the first division game blacked out during that time

That proves that the three strikes law works!

humdinger70
09-24-09, 06:19 PM
Dolphins @ Chargers blackout has been lifted. The next potential blackout is the Monday night Broncos game on October 19.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/chargers/2009/sep/24/blackout-lifted-miami-game/?chargers

humdinger70
09-24-09, 06:24 PM
So now we have two blackouts, Lions and Raiders, so far.

Ken H
09-24-09, 09:44 PM
As expected, Lions will be blacked out...
Thank God.

homcom
09-24-09, 10:17 PM
I have updated the first post with a new format to make it easier to read and provide some more information.

If there is any more information that should be included or any feedback on the new format let me know.

Also if you see any errors let me know, all of the game information now comes from a excel document so there may be some formula errors that I just have not caught yet.

mlr_1977
09-25-09, 08:21 AM
Also if you see any errors let me know, all of the game information now comes from a excel document so there may be some formula errors that I just have not caught yet.
Homcom...the OTA stations for the Monday Night game don't look correct. I think they are still from last week's Indy-Miami MNF game.

perrycom
09-25-09, 11:19 AM
Thank God.
Cheer up, Ken. This could be the Lions' week! :eek:

mikepier
09-25-09, 11:36 AM
This will be weird, not since 1984 have both the Giants and Jets played at the same time. Being a Giants fan, I know which game will be my primary at 1pm :D


Oct 14,1984 to be exact is when the last time they played at the same time.
I believe it was to accomodate NBC's coverage of the World Series (since the Jets played on NBC back then).

homcom
09-25-09, 12:44 PM
Homcom...the OTA stations for the Monday Night game don't look correct. I think they are still from last week's Indy-Miami MNF game.

Fixed, Thank You.

jefbal99
09-25-09, 01:48 PM
Thank God.

ESPNs Bill Simmons makes a great point in his NFL Picks column this week regarding the blackout for the Lions...

GREAT CALL OF THE WEEK

LIONS (+6.5) over Redskins
It's time for the Miller Lite Call of The Week, where I either praise a call that I loved or defend a call thought to be previously indefensible. This week, we're tackling the NFL's *unfortunate* blackout of the Redskins-Lions game, which could prevent Detroit fans from seeing their team's first win in years. And yes, it's literally been years. Plural.

Why put asterisks around the word *unfortunate*? Thanks to the blackout, Detroit fans now get treated to a much better game: Niners-Vikings. For gamblers, fantasy addicts and general football addicts in the Detroit area, what would you rather watch: your decrepitly hopeless team gunning for its 20th straight defeat, or two playoff teams battling with about 10 fantasy guys involved? I'm voting for Niners-Vikes! By refusing to turn out for the Lions, Detroit fans shrewdly improved their own viewing options and inspired downtrodden NFL cities across America to do the same. Now that's a great call of the week.

Phantom Gremlin
09-25-09, 11:53 PM
I think its more of a give & take between the NFL & ESPN since ESPN gets the 'B' package games now as opposed to SNF....thats why teams like cowboys, steelers, giants, pats, colts are only on MNF once while they are on SNF 2 or 3 times + flex.

What I'm astonished at is how badly NBC and the NFL snookered ABC/ESPN in this arrangement. ESPN pays more than NBC but gets sloppy seconds.

CPanther95
09-26-09, 08:05 AM
What I'm astonished at is how badly NBC and the NFL snookered ABC/ESPN in this arrangement. ESPN pays more than NBC but gets sloppy seconds.

That's the premium they pay for not being on broadcast TV. Don't worry, only we got snookered.

jojo11
09-26-09, 08:57 AM
I am looking at the upcoming week (#4), and there could be a possible 2nd blackout for Jacksonville (they host Tennessee), and, of course, the big game will be the Monday night Green Bay-Minnesota matchup.

Ken H
09-26-09, 08:59 AM
ESPNs Bill Simmons makes a great point in his NFL Picks column this week regarding the blackout for the Lions...

And any Lions fan that disagrees (thinks everyone should go out and support the Lions by attending the games) continues to get exactly what they deserve: more losses.

fredfa
09-26-09, 09:07 AM
But aren't ticket sales a comparatively small part of an NFL team's revenue stream?

fredfa
09-26-09, 09:10 AM
The people who REALLY got snookered are those who never watch ESPN (about two-thirds of the nation's households) but still pay upwards of $4.00 per month for the network. A fee that Disney managed to raise substantially after landing the MNF package (it was just $2.91 as recently as 2006).

That's the premium they pay for not being on broadcast TV. Don't worry, only we got snookered.

NIVO
09-27-09, 12:20 PM
And any Lions fan that disagrees (thinks everyone should go out and support the Lions by attending the games) continues to get exactly what they deserve: more losses.

I disagree with this jackass from espn. Im a diehard Lions fan(and red wings WOOT!), so win or lose I STILL want to see my team play. My distance makes it impossible to go to the game today. But im still in their market. I could care less what the 49'ers do in a game.

CPanther95
09-27-09, 12:29 PM
The people who REALLY got snookered are those who never watch ESPN (about two-thirds of the nation's households) but still pay upwards of $4.00 per month for the network. A fee that Disney managed to raise substantially after landing the MNF package (it was just $2.91 as recently as 2006).

True, but keep in mind that even for rabid football fans, the shift from ABC to ESPN means that MNF games went from being free to basically PPV. That fee goes to football fans and non-football fans alike - and neither gains any new programming for that fee.

dcowboy7
09-29-09, 06:53 PM
Week 4 maps are now up.