After some searching around I found out that there's such a thing as "mixed cadence" videos, especially animated videos. So I finally figured out why the hell there's no coherent interlacing pattern whatsoever, and why every single software deinterlacer (in standalone player software, standalone filter, combined decoder/deinterlacer, improvised avisynth scripts, etc. etc.) that I've tried simply can not properly deinterlace my precious complete Samurai Jack DVD collection.
I've never encountered this extremely frustrating problem before, and I'm amazed that so many programs can't correctly deinterlace this content.
Do you know what program I could use which can correctly deinterlace my Samurai Jack DVDs (and other "mixed cadence" content for that matter)? I'd really appreciate it.
Furthermore, I've read that some hardware players can properly deinterlace this, but all I've tried did just as horrible a job as the millions of software programs I've tried. Any advice on that as well?
Thanks.
Edit: hmm I fear I've posted in the wrong section. Moderator: sorry for any trouble, please move the thread if needed.
wmcclain
09-24-09, 07:19 AM
After some searching around I found out that there's such a thing as "mixed cadence" videos, especially animated videos. So I finally figured out why the hell there's no coherent interlacing pattern whatsoever, and why every single software deinterlacer (in standalone player software, standalone filter, combined decoder/deinterlacer, improvised avisynth scripts, etc. etc.) that I've tried simply can not properly deinterlace my precious complete Samurai Jack DVD collection.
I've never encountered this extremely frustrating problem before, and I'm amazed that so many programs can't correctly deinterlace this content.
Do you know what program I could use which can correctly deinterlace my Samurai Jack DVDs (and other "mixed cadence" content for that matter)? I'd really appreciate it.
Furthermore, I've read that some hardware players can properly deinterlace this, but all I've tried did just as horrible a job as the millions of software programs I've tried. Any advice on that as well?
Thanks.
Edit: hmm I fear I've posted in the wrong section. Moderator: sorry for any trouble, please move the thread if needed.
I don't have any experience with that title, but it is true that animation can have all sorts of content that is difficult to handle.
I tested one series (COWBOY BEBOP REMIX) that someone was having trouble with and my OPPO players handled it without difficulty. This can get expensive though.
This was with the Faroudja-chip players (971 and 981), now out of production, but probably available used cheap.
The ABT VRS models are even better at adaptive deinterlacing. The 983H was $399 and is out of production. The Blu-ray BDP-83 is current but is $499.
Their 980H is only $169, but it's deinterlacing is not as sophisticated and I don't know how well it would handle your content.
-Bill
Thanks, Bill.
By now I've learned that there isn't a single software solution that can correctly decode/deinterlace this, nothing even close.
I've read about the ABT102 chip's ability to perfectly handle mixed cadence video. I was considering getting an expensive DVD-only player just for this. Which is pretty ridiculous, really. I didn't know the VRS chip is supposed to be as good as (or even better than) the ABT102. In that case I may just get the BDP-83 blu ray player some time. Until then, nothing I can do. Amazing.
Thank goodness there's at least one chip maker out there that really cares about this issue. I suppose I'll run into more mixed cadence issues in the future with other animation series discs. So such a player would be useful anyway. Too bad that I'll have to get another hardware player just because of this. Well, at least I'll also get great scaling and some other features that may come in handy.
I've read about the ABT102 chip's ability to perfectly handle mixed cadence video. I was considering getting an expensive DVD-only player just for this. Which is pretty ridiculous, really. I didn't know the VRS chip is supposed to be as good as (or even better than) the ABT102.
"VRS" is the product category for all of Anchor Bay's processing chips. ABT102 is a model within that category. So you're essentially referring to the same thing.
The Oppo BDP-83 uses the newer ABT1010 chip, I believe.
wmcclain
09-25-09, 11:12 AM
"VRS" is the product category for all of Anchor Bay's processing chips. ABT102 is a model within that category. So you're essentially referring to the same thing.
The Oppo BDP-83 uses the newer ABT1010 chip, I believe.
That's the two-chip solution used in the original 983H DVD player. The Blu-ray player uses the ABT2010. Same functionality.
-Bill
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification.