figured i'd get an early jump on this, since it will probably be talked about when the season starts (10/23)..

from what i've seen in the promos it definitely seems a different avenue than some of their other shows, and has a slick, stylish feel to it...plus i'm always up for anything to do with crime and bad guys blurring the good/bad line...anyone else interested?

While I'll definitely check it out, I'm not quite as convinced that it's necessarily slicker or more stylish than some of USA's other shows. If anything, it seems a little less polished to me, from what I've seen so far.

Looks interesting....

The website (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecollar/) has a little more info on the show as well as a few clips...

What makes you think it's less polished...it seems like they are going for a more artsy stylized appeal with the types of crimes..

sorry for the bump, but i figured some of you might be interested in a positive review (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/tv-reviews/white-collar-tv-review-1004026273.story) for the show

I haven't watched much TV this week so I almost forgot this was starting.

I was planning to watch this just because it starred Bryce from Chuck. I really hope it doesn't suffer the worst end of the USA HD quality level.

No comments on this yet?

Well I thought it was another show that slotted right in to the USA mold - yet another of those cool, fast talking, crime dramas with charismatic lead characters and witty put downs.

And I thought it was highly entertaining for all those reasons.

Eventually USA are going to go one show too far with their style of programming but I don't think this show is it. I could have done with the sliding "swooosh" captions because I've lost count of how many times they've used that visual device.

PQ was pretty good too. There were moments of compression noise which could have been TWC at work, but the rest of the show was clear and sharp.

And Matt Bomer is definitely on his way to becoming a breakout star based on this show. He was good on Chuck, but this charming character with classic style and his razor-sharp cheek bones should get him noticed. Especially if this show actually survives longer than most of the others he's been on. Which based on the pilot I don't see why it wouldn't.

I was very pleasantly surprised by this program. Other than the promos, I hadn't seen anything about it. The characters are great (typical USA), the concept is really just To Catch a Thief and Switch warmed over. No problem with me, however, as I really like those shows. I hope this stays around for a while.

It's got my vote. As usual USA has crafted another great show! I love the "caper" shows.

I agree that it's a lot of fun. USA seems to crank out enjoyable shows at high rate than either TNT or FX, or NBC for that matter.

No comments on this yet?

Well I thought it was another show that slotted right in to the USA mold - yet another of those cool, fast talking, crime dramas with charismatic lead characters and witty put downs.

And I thought it was highly entertaining for all those reasons.

Eventually USA are going to go one show too far with their style of programming but I don't think this show is it. I could have done with the sliding "swooosh" captions because I've lost count of how many times they've used that visual device.

PQ was pretty good too. There were moments of compression noise which could have been TWC at work, but the rest of the show was clear and sharp.

And Matt Bomer is definitely on his way to becoming a breakout star based on this show. He was good on Chuck, but this charming character with classic style and his razor-sharp cheek bones should get him noticed. Especially if this show actually survives longer than most of the others he's been on. Which based on the pilot I don't see why it wouldn't.

Yup...I agree 100%. Great show and very entertaining.

The whole cast just works...might be my new favorite show of Friday night...

I made a point to watch this on Friday, and I'm glad I did. So far, I like it a lot.

Makes me wonder -- once Monk isn't on, will this replace it? Or will they move Psych down to 9pm and leave this on at 10pm? They'll have to fill that 9pm slot somehow...

DGK

I liked it much better than I thought I would. It's a keeper.

Cleaver scheduling putting it right after Sherona's guest return to MONK.

Yeah I like it too, but my DVRs are working overtime on Fridays now. MB has put his time in on a number of shows over the years hope this hits for him.

I got to believe there is something more going on with TAT, the FBI guys wife, then meets the eye.

Getting the guy from the Chuck show makes this a winner to me, another enjoyable show on USA!

I really enjoyed it. Crisp picture quality, good pacing and a strong story. It fits the USA-style upbeat crime dramedy mold rather well. Not sure that bond theft and counterfeiting will continue to be interesting for multiple seasons though, but I'll enjoy it while it's still good.

Does this mean no more Bryce Larkinon Chuck? Pity, some of the best episodes are when he is around

Does this mean no more Bryce Larkinon Chuck? Pity, some of the best episodes are when he is around

Well he did get shot and die in last year's finale so he was gone from Chuck regardless....

As far as this show goes, we liked it a lot. The writing was crisp and the acting was solid. It's an interesting spin off of a stale premise (crime procedural) so I'm glad it did well in the ratings (5.3mil viewers).

Well he did get shot and die in last year's finale so he was gone from Chuck regardless....

As far as this show goes, we liked it a lot. The writing was crisp and the acting was solid. It's an interesting spin off of a stale premise (crime procedural) so I'm glad it did well in the ratings (5.3mil viewers).

To be fair, he also got shot and died in the series premiere too :)

I found it quite enjoyable and both of my thumbs are up.

I really like this show I added it to my season passes on my tivo. While looking through them I realized that I watch more shows from the USA network then NBC which owns USA and that most of the shows that I watch are on Mondays and Fridays.

In upcoming episodes Nataiie Morales from The Middleman becomes a regular, so she should add some more energy to the storylines and keep the show lively.

In upcoming episodes Nataiie Morales from The Middleman becomes a regular, so she should add some more energy to the storylines and keep the show lively.

Oh great, now I'll have to commit to another show, no way will I not catch the show if Dub dub is gonna be on it.

Oh great, now I'll have to commit to another show, no way will I not catch the show if Dub dub is gonna be on it.

+1. No way I'll miss it if Dub Dub is going to be on it.

The Middleman Series was the only DVD i bought in the last 3 years!!!!:D

yeah the addition of Natalie morales is definite plus...loved the pilot though...already considering ways to start my friday evenings later so i can catch this live..really like willie garson's character in the first ep...

I really like this show I added it to my season passes on my tivo. While looking through them I realized that I watch more shows from the USA network then NBC which owns USA and that most of the shows that I watch are on Mondays and Fridays.

I recorded this show last week and just got around to watching it last nigh. I think USA has another winner. I watch very little on NBC, I watch several of USA's programs. Since NBC seems to have a problem with viable programming and they own USA, why don't they appropriate some of USA's programs for NBC (or just merge the two networks)?

No comments about Dub Dub? They do need cast new baddies since the one in this episode has been considerably overused.

Welcome addition. She reminds me of how much I miss The Middleman.

No comments about Dub Dub? They do need cast new baddies since the one in this episode has been considerably overused.

As dialouge heavy The Middleman was, Natalie probably thought she had it easy with this show. She had about 5 minutes of Middleman dialouge.:D

She did look very good in that opening scene designer dress!!!

The problem I have with this show is they have not given enough of a reason for using the con guy to solve cases. The show needs to be a little smarter to justify why he was let out of prison. The writers did a great job when they showed him breaking out of prison, but since then he has not really done anything else that was outstanding.

I recorded this show last week and just got around to watching it last nigh. I think USA has another winner. I watch very little on NBC, I watch several of USA's programs. Since NBC seems to have a problem with viable programming and they own USA, why don't they appropriate some of USA's programs for NBC (or just merge the two networks)?

Yeah I can't figure that whole mess out, either. I mean, if they own both, then obviously they have to spend money on both...somehow operating USA is cheaper, I assume? So they move shows like L&O: CI over there because it wasn't doing as well as the other L&O shows, yet still well enough I guess to keep it from being canceled.

How they operate the two networks, though, is way beyond me. I'm just glad that USA has such good programming on, that's all! In fact, with the shows they have on, plus the shows that TNT has on in the summer, I rarely if ever watch network programming during the summer anymore. In fact I look forward to summer shows now, because they seem to be so of such a higher quality than most of the shows the networks have on now.

Thank goodness for cable shows like White Collar! I'm enjoying a lot so far...hope it's doing well enough to keep it on air for a while.

DGK

Yeah I can't figure that whole mess out, either. I mean, if they own both, then obviously they have to spend money on both...somehow operating USA is cheaper, I assume? So they move shows like L&O: CI over there because it wasn't doing as well as the other L&O shows, yet still well enough I guess to keep it from being canceled.

How they operate the two networks, though, is way beyond me. I'm just glad that USA has such good programming on, that's all! In fact, with the shows they have on, plus the shows that TNT has on in the summer, I rarely if ever watch network programming during the summer anymore. In fact I look forward to summer shows now, because they seem to be so of such a higher quality than most of the shows the networks have on now.

Thank goodness for cable shows like White Collar! I'm enjoying a lot so far...hope it's doing well enough to keep it on air for a while.

DGK

You can also depend on them finishing the season out. You can't depend on the major nets to even finish the current season of a show(there are a lot of good shows on the major nets, but you just can't depend on them sticking around). Cable shows are getting much better and they get a much better shot at developing an audience. I'm the same way, I look forward to the summer shows as much or more than I do the fall, mainly because there is no certainty that any of the shows I like in the fall will even make it at all. The major nets have lost me as a viewer on a lot of shows, especially any kind of serialized type.

You can also depend on them finishing the season out. You can't depend on the major nets to even finish the current season of a show(there are a lot of good shows on the major nets, but you just can't depend on them sticking around). Cable shows are getting much better and they get a much better shot at developing an audience. I'm the same way, I look forward to the summer shows as much or more than I do the fall, mainly because there is no certainty that any of the shows I like in the fall will even make it at all. The major nets have lost me as a viewer on a lot of shows, especially any kind of serialized type.

I so agree. Look at Southland as one of the latest examples of that. NBC gave up on it before even airing the last 6 episodes that were already finished...they didn't even want to bother to show them! It never got a decent chance to gain a bigger audience. I can't even count the times that has happened to other shows that I've liked -- you just start to enjoy and/or get attached to a show, and it gets axed, sometimes even with unaired episodes! (Such as Pushing Daisies.)

I don't know why I keep letting myself get drawn in by the network shows...but I do it anyway, every season. I'm such a sucker, I guess! :D I'm just glad that there ARE alternatives out there now, such as TNT, USA, etc. that take a chance on new, quality shows, and give them time to develop an audience, even if the ratings aren't always stellar at the start.

DGK

FBI agent: "I need a cigarette after that pat-down."
Classic. :D

Oh come on, you know he was only trying to be thorough. If she looked like that, I'm sure I'd be very thorough, too. You can't be too careful these days.

The Pilot was really great, but Friday night is the kiss of death. I hope USA repalys this on Saturday (where I saw the pilot ) or Sunday.

The Pilot was really great, but Friday night is the kiss of death. I hope USA repalys this on Saturday (where I saw the pilot ) or Sunday.

USA Network has actually been very successful with their Friday night shows.

USA Network has actually been very successful with their Friday night shows.

True, Monk ending after 8 years, and I think all have been on Fridays, Psych in it's 4th season all following Monk on Fridays.

Yeah the friday night timeslot hasn't bothered me in the slightest..i usually just head out after this show is done. Ep. 4 was good as a whole, but a few moments stood out...i like that Mozzie's being given more to do in the episodes...his quirkiness brings a different dimension to the show..I also think the Kate storyline is heating up and it's going to come to a head in an episode sooner than later.

Anyone still keeping up? Tonight is the fall finale before they take a break for a month and come back mid jan...the storyline with kate has really heated up, and it seems like everything is going to come to a head in tonights ep...

definitely been a fun watch this fall

I'm still watching. I like the interplay between the wife (TAT) and Neal. Though he'll forever be Bryce Larkin from "Chuck" to me!!

This is a really good and nice looking (PQ) show.

Whoa. That was a bombshell of an ending. Didn't see that coming at all.

Whoa. That was a bombshell of an ending. Didn't see that coming at all.

LOL ... I suspected, yet hoped the writers weren't going to go there.

So ...

that was a bit of a story shaker. I don't know how they are going to twist that into something positive but I can't wait to find out. There's just no way Burke is a bad guy, the whole premise of the show would implode.

Evil twin? Surgically altered evil agent? Aliens?

The only thing that tipped it off is when Neal made his confession that he was looking for Kate Burke says the same thing Kate did during their phone conversation. Otherwise I did not see this coming at all. I do expect there is a twist in the works, but so far so good.

Yeah, we were obviously supposed to figure Fowler was the bad guy, setting up Burke for something (and it still may turn out that way), but that was a good twist. Burke looked different, too. The hair slicked back, the way he was sitting, his voice even just a bit deeper and stronger. Is this the "real" Burke?

One thing that caught my attention early in the episode. When Burke was talking to his wife, she asked him if he thought Neal had stolen the diamond. Burke told her Yes, like he was sure about it. Maybe disappointed, maybe more than a little annoyed, but he seemed to really believe it. It seems to me that they've established that Burke will lie to his wife about "little" things, but not stuff like this. He really thought Neal stole the diamond. I was waiting for that to come back, but it looks like it won't now.

Well, Burke does always comment, enviously, on Neal's lavish lifestyle. Maybe he wants a piece of it.

I'm going with the evil twin - Burke never wore that ring and like the previous poster - his hair was slicked and his voice different.

evil twin peter would be pretty crazy wouldnt it...not sure if its been mentioned but this show is moving to a different night when it restarts in jan..first new ep will be TUESDAY 1/19 at 10pm...guess we will get our answers then.

evil twin peter would be pretty crazy wouldnt it...not sure if its been mentioned but this show is moving to a different night when it restarts in jan..first new ep will be TUESDAY 1/19 at 10pm...guess we will get our answers then.

Great there isn't much on that I watch on Tuesday.

I just watched the last episode yesterday, shocking ending.

I don't see how this show can continue if they go down this path. The chemistry between the two leads is a large part of what makes this work, to have them turn on each other halfway into the first season seems to point towards a 1 season run. Not sure what they could do other than the evil twin idea to make this work.

I'll definitely be watching when it returns, just puzzled as to where they go from here.

That's what makes a good cliffhanger. "Shocking" scene right at the end, leaving us wondering how in the heck they're going to resolve it.

And of course what makes a good resolution is that it doesn't leave us feeling cheated (evil twin, Burke really is a bad guy, it was all just a dream, etc). We'll find out.

I wish this show can be more popular, it shouldn't be on firdays!!

That Bryce actor from Chuck is great as the main character in this show!

USA with another excellant show!

I wish this show can be more popular, it shouldn't be on firdays!!

I don't care. It makes no difference that it's on Friday, USA will keep it around regardless for a few seasons at least. It's in no danger of kneejerk cancellation. If viewers are not tuning in now because it's on Friday, it's their loss not ours.

Regarding the twist the only other thing I came up with to explain it is that Burke wears the same ring as the bad guy - possibly belonging to the same secret organization or graduate class. He knows who wears the rings and tracked down Kate based on the photo Neil showed him and he's about to save/confront her.

The other thing worth noting is that Kate was wandering around freely when she's supposed to be kidnapped. Maybe she's just running a con on Neil and there is no bad guy. Maybe she is the "bad guy." It could be Burke's hand in the photo after all, but the only reason for that is that he caught up with her one day when he was trying to catch her and she later escaped. The end scene was Burke catching her again.

Of course Burke did look different this episode so maybe he is an evil twin. I thought the actor had died his hair at the beginning out of vanity!

I wish this show can be more popular, it shouldn't be on firdays!!

Your wish has been granted. With Monk having ended, USA is breaking up the Friday night band so to speak, and is moving WC to Wednesdays for the second half of it's first season, with Psych airing Tuesdays in January.
I hope they remember how well [sarcasm] breaking up Friday nights did for Sci Fi a few years back...

sarcasm? What's that?

Friday is the worst time since most people go outside to meet people.

Yeah, Syfy's pursuit of a different, more lucrative (read: female) audience has led to some changes in the way they program their series.

Your wish has been granted. With Monk having ended, USA is breaking up the Friday night band so to speak, and is moving WC to Wednesdays for the second half of it's first season, with Psych airing Tuesdays in January.
I hope they remember how well [sarcasm] breaking up Friday nights did for Sci Fi a few years back...
I think that's backwards, with WC on Tuesday and Psych on Wednesday.
What is Friday going to contain? Royal Pains?

I think that's backwards, with WC on Tuesday and Psych on Wednesday.
What is Friday going to contain? Royal Pains?
I wondered if I got that right, but I couldn't locate the article thast reported the change. No word on what they're doing on Fridays, perhaps House repeats or movies.

yeah i've got a zillion theories on how things will be resolved, but as far as the time slot change im all for it...frees up my friday nights for actual human interaction

This Tuesday we found out which one of those zillion theories might be correct.

New episodes start tomorrow. 10pm.

do you think they will address it quickly? Couldn't it be something that hangs around for the rest of the episodes?

At first I was pretty annoyed they seemed to be skipping past and potentially dragging it out for a few episodes. While that was happening I didn't really enjoy this episode.

It was only when the ring situation was dealt with that I believed in the character dynamic again and the rest of the episode was more enjoyable.

I can't believe I totally called out the ring connection. The explanation scene between Peter and Kate felt really weak though.

Does Kate look like a younger (dare I say thinner) Tiffany Thiessen? Or is it just me?

Does Kate look like a younger (dare I say thinner) Tiffany Thiessen? Or is it just me?

It's not just you.

Definitely not just you. Every episode with the two of them in it result in similar remarks from my wife (and me).

I've noticed many directors have a certain "look" they like in their female characters, and this is probably one of those shows. My wife has pretty much detested blondes from her childhood on, so she's pretty "up" on the attractiveness / looks of Elizabeth and Kate.

Cliff

Does Kate look like a younger (dare I say thinner) Tiffany Thiessen? Or is it just me?

yeah when kate first appeared i thought there would be some kind of back story about her being related to elizabeth...dont think they are going down that road, but i guess its possible.

Loved the winter premiere though...thought they handled the cliffhanger resolution pretty well.

Great acting and excellent writing, White Collar 2.0 is a winner.

The explanation scene between Peter and Kate felt really weak though.

Yeah, that just seemed off to me. The way Peter said "Neal is my friend" struck me as odd. It won't surprise me if in the end Peter still is the bad guy. I hope not, but I won't be shocked.


Does Kate look like a younger (dare I say thinner) Tiffany Thiessen? Or is it just me?

Now that you mention it, there is a resemblance. Both have gorgeous eyes and both have big breasts to match.

it's certainly possible that peter might still be working another angle...which would still be pretty intriguing given the circumstances...i was surprised that he let elizabeth in on the fact that he met with kate...maybe there is something between the two of them.

Classic episode, great writing and superb acting. USA makes excellent original shows.

USA....USA....USA....USA....its like a sports game chant for a winning team. USA now has the top three best shows on TV with White Collar, Psych and Burn Notice. This show looks great, is original, and the acting is outstanding. Way to go USA.

USA now has the top three best shows on TV with White Collar, Psych and Burn Notice. This show looks great, is original, and the acting is outstanding.Yup, those folks at NBC Universal really know what they're doing. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon14.gif

Yup, those folks at NBC Universal really know what they're doing. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon14.gif

And yet the people running the NBC network haven't got a clue what they are doing.:)

Sure they do... they're doing what their bosses at NBCU are telling them to do.

NBCU knows exactly what it's doing, including with NBC. Viewers don't necessarily have to like it in order for it to be best for them. Part of success in marketing is understanding how to drive your customers to your more strategic offerings. I do acknowledge, though, that a lot of viewers hate being manipulated like that, and therefore try to discredit such strategic moves.

That was a much better finale than the previous one but I really hope Kate is dead now so we can move on. That storyline was pretty interesting when the show started but became progressively lamer as more of the "conspiracy" (or whatever it was) was revealed.

Still, another entertaining show for USA with good characters (Willie Garson in particular) and an enjoyably fun season overall.

I really enjoyed the finale but do fear the never-ending saga of Kate is not over and done with unfortunately :(
I heart Peter though and though Neal is the eye candy on this show Peter is quite attractive too and the Peter and Elizabeth marriage is refreshing . Kudos !
Will Alex be back ? I like her and Neal but better than anything I've seen between Neal and Kate on the show !!

White Collar is back on July 13th and in usual fashion USA is running some crossover promos.

I thought this one was pretty funny.

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I thought the season premiere was a really good kick start to the season. The game of cat and mouse between with the bank robber was clever. My dvr cut off before the end of the last season's finale so I missed the part where Kate is "blown up". I think that really helps free up the series in the long run.

Thumbs up from me to. It looked good - clean and stylish - moved well with some great Peter/Neal exchanges and the bank job was fairly exciting.

One scene which was very weird was the Peter/Elizabeth meal. The image looked distorted and the scene appeared almost as CGI, as if it was dropped in at the last minute when they realized Thiessen wasn't in the episode.

Pity Tim Matheson got caught, I would have liked to have seen him outsmart Neal in a few more episodes.

Has Natlaie Morales been written out in favor of the woman from Lost?

I missed this show it is good to have it back.

One scene which was very weird was the Peter/Elizabeth meal. The image looked distorted and the scene appeared almost as CGI, as if it was dropped in at the last minute when they realized Thiessen wasn't in the episode.

I thought the image was distorted because they were trying to make her appear slimmer in spite of her pregnancy.

Thumbs up from me to. It looked good - clean and stylish - moved well with some great Peter/Neal exchanges and the bank job was fairly exciting.

One scene which was very weird was the Peter/Elizabeth meal. The image looked distorted and the scene appeared almost as CGI, as if it was dropped in at the last minute when they realized Thiessen wasn't in the episode.

Pity Tim Matheson got caught, I would have liked to have seen him outsmart Neal in a few more episodes.

Has Natlaie Morales been written out in favor of the woman from Lost?

The scene with Thiessen was really funky. I guess they don't realize that with HD, it is very noticable.

Tim was great, he directed the episode excellent as well!

I thought the image was distorted because they were trying to make her appear slimmer in spite of her pregnancy.

That must be it. I noticed they did a similar thing with her scene this week too but not quite to the same extreme.

It's kind of unfortunate they have to put Thiessen on the sidelines because it just makes me realize how kind of unnecessary she is to the show. I haven't really missed her.

Seem like this season they are trying to branch out with Neal's placement beyond just the forgery stuff. It's working for me so far.

Not happy about losing Dub-dub Natalie. Shame they didn't give her the same amount of material as they are giving the new Fed.

That must be it. I noticed they did a similar thing with her scene this week too but not quite to the same extreme.

It's kind of unfortunate they have to put Thiessen on the sidelines because it just makes me realize how kind of unnecessary she is to the show. I haven't really missed her.

Seem like this season they are trying to branch out with Neal's placement beyond just the forgery stuff. It's working for me so far.

Not happy about losing Dub-dub Natalie. Shame they didn't give her the same amount of material as they are giving the new Fed.

I agree: bring back Dub-Dub!!!

I thought this week was one of the best episodes yet. Neal got a lot of chances to be witty and charming and execute some little cons and all the cast got screen time and their own piece of the main story. With the exception of Thiessen. This episode moved at such a nice clip I didn't even remember she was previously in the show. Not good news for her.

Mozzie on the comm-link, Jones playing the mark, Neal relishing in his curriculum profile, Alex being the inside man and Peter playing the peacemaker were all enjoyable little scenes. Even the music box subplot is vaguely intriguing now.

Alex is so much more interesting than Kate ever was and works far better with Neal.

And I still can't get over how good this show looks compared to the majority of cable product. The cinematography is crisp and sharply lit and the blocking and editing is nicely done - that hat segue in particular this ep was well executed. The NY locations really help too.

It's great to hear so many positive reactions to this season from you all! Thanks so much for watching an being such dedicated fans. I want to let you know that Hilarie Burton will be on the show this Tuesday at 9/8c...you can catch the preview here (http://video.usanetwork.com/series/white_collar/season_two_previews_1/unfinished-business-promo/v1242200). Hope you like this week's episode!

This is one of the best examples of shows polishing up what makes it good in the second season. The only thing missing is Thiessen, because I really liked the interaction between Peter and Elizabeth last season. The last episode with Moz working as the broker was a good one.

The cases this season feel smarter than last season's cases.

Thanks for such kind praise, spid! We are really happy with how this season has played out. It's been a picture perfect pairing with Covert Affairs, too as both shows offer viewers smarter cases with sharper characters. You get your FBI and CIA fix all in one night. Have you been tuning in to Covert right after White Collar? Would love to hear your thoughts!

I DVR and watch both on the night they air. Awesome combo. Thursday nights combo is just as good but do not mesh as well. I think Royal Pains might sync better with Psych rather than Burn Notice. That way I could maintain my Burn Notice adrenaline rush for a longer period.

Seems as if the Kate storyline isn't dead yet. The introduction of the remains of the exploded plane can only lead in one direction.

I was able to catch the "flip-flop" marathon that was on yesterday so I'm finally all caught up for this week's show, I think. (I DVR the show every week...don't want to miss an episode!)

I'm really enjoying season 2. This is a great show. I love the dynamic between Neal and Peter...they "fit" well together.

DGK

Seems as if the Kate storyline isn't dead yet. The introduction of the remains of the exploded plane can only lead in one direction.

That and the "key" that fits into the top of the music box...it will be interesting to see where this goes next.

DGK

I'd rather see Tiffany with her pregnancy weight than the goofy vertical stretch they are doing to try and make her look thinner.

^ We can only hope that it's the goofy vertical stretch... :rolleyes:
She must've been very, very pregnant when the season started filming. I was at least expecting the sit on couch and hide behind pillow maneuver, with the flowers in vase blocking body shots and the rarely used body double back to the camera with voice dub over tactic to carry them through the first half. No such luck. :(

I'd rather see Tiffany with her pregnancy weight than the goofy vertical stretch they are doing to try and make her look thinner.

Is it a stretch or are they just green screening her into scenes? I had no idea she was pregnant (don't really read up on all that stuff), but from the first episode it seemed as though the characters weren't even in the same scene together, just green screened together.

Now that you mention the pregnancy, perhaps they had her in one day to do all her parts to keep her schedule to a minimum. Record them all up front and then stitch them in as needed.

Anyway, that's just a nitpick.

Overall this show has been great. Season 1 was fun and Season 2 is carrying that momentum forward. This and Psych are two of my favorites.

I've recorded Covert but haven't gotten a chance to start watching them yet. Just not enough time presently.

I'm a big fan of this show, particularly the dynamic between Neal/Peter and Neal/Mozzie. I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the new Sara character though. If the show wants to bring in a lady to pair off with Neal (which is what this looks like) I definitely prefer the interplay/relationship between Neal and Alex than I do to the one between Neal and Sara.

I'm a big fan of this show, particularly the dynamic between Neal/Peter and Neal/Mozzie. I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the new Sara character though. If the show wants to bring in a lady to pair off with Neal (which is what this looks like) I definitely prefer the interplay/relationship between Neal and Alex than I do to the one between Neal and Sara.


Ditto .. I like Sara but do not see any chemistry between her and Neal as I do between him and Alex !!
Also when is Elizabeth coming home so there are more Peter/Elizabeth scenes ? I miss them !

I actually liked Sara a tad more. The relationship is more anatagonistic.

With Alex, the relationship suffers from the "OK, you're hawt fer each other -- just screw already!" factor. It's too much like Mal and Inara on Firefly, and it makes the UST more annoying than fun.

Good UST needs a boundary that both characters don't want to cross for good reasons. With Sara and Neal, that's a gimme: she'd like to remain employable. With Neal and Alex, it doesn't make sense because Neal's already shown his judgment per females sucks with whatever the dead GFs name was.

Another pro-Sara vote here.

Haven't said this about any character since the Devil (Ray Wise) on Reaper, but I'd say that Mozzie is the best character on television right now.

I'm not pro Neal having a permanent romance with anyone on the show. The perfect counterbalance between Peter/Elizabeth stable relationship is Neal seducing every woman in walking distance.

It was nice to see Joe Morten has the new big boss for the last episode.

Another pro-Sara vote here.

Haven't said this about any character since the Devil (Ray Wise) on Reaper, but I'd say that Mozzie is the best character on television right now.
Totally agree about Mozzie.

Elizabeth's back, still sporting some baby weight, and I commented on that (her... um... chest looked larger than before) but my wife said "What are you talking about? She's still pregnant." Didn't look like it to me, but I figure she would know.

I agree about Neal not needing any steady female in his life. As spid said, it's a nice contrast to Peter's stable marriage. They hinted that Alex and Neal aren't just attracted to each other, but actually have a history. One episode, I forget the exact circumstances, but they were at Neal's place and had to get out of their clothes for some reason (yeah, I know, but whatever) and one of them said "Seems like old times."

The powers that be on this show must have a thing for brunettes. All the main females are brunette, we've had more than one blond turn out to be the perp, and the actress who plays Sara is normally blond but is brunette for the part of Sara. Coincidence?

The powers that be on this show must have a thing for brunettes. All the main females are brunette, we've had more than one blond turn out to be the perp, and the actress who plays Sara is normally blond but is brunette for the part of Sara. Coincidence?

Another reason I love this show. :o

Pretty slick finale even if I couldn't remember half of what they were talking about regarding the arc plot - Mentor? No idea. They really should give the arc plots at least one or two devoted episodes per season to make it stick but it's a common problem with USA shows.

Particularly liked the use of music this episode and the metal detector and Errol Flynn scenes were very cool. I replayed the gun toss a few times.

The ending was well done in that it had little build-up so it wasn't obviously signposted and the shooting was done in a abrupt and simple way which makes a change from the usual. Mozzie obviously won't die but I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next.

So as expected the Mozzie situation was resolved pretty nonchalantly, but the first episode was solid White Collar fun with a good con and the usual Burke/Caffrey rapport. Pity I couldn't remember who the insurance agent was.

This week was a great departure though. I enjoyed seeing the early Mozzie, Neal and Burke (especially the first meeting with Neal) and after seeing Kate in the blue dress I final appreciate what Neal sees in her. Yowza. They could give Burke a mustache but unfortunately they couldn't turn back Thiessen's baby weight. At least they didn't squeeze her face with some camera un-magic to make her younger. Mrs Suit did have a cool moment in the opening episode though. The looks on Burke and Caffrey's face as she spoke to the dude in the phone box was hilarious.

Andrew McCarthy was a good addition to the show too. I barely recognized him initially so I'm looking forward to seeing him again. Hopefully he'll get more screen time because right now I have less clue what the show arc is about than I do with Burn Notice and that's saying something.

The music box from the eighteenth century plays a musical algorithm that translates into a fractal design for a radio antenna to track down a ship lost in the 40's?

Really that entire aspect is starting to feel like a missing Rambaldi invention from Alias - except that it makes less sense.

Did they ever explain what happened to the female FBI agent who was part of Peter's team? It's like she was there for a while, but then she just disappeared and was replaced by Naomi from Lost.

Did they ever explain what happened to the female FBI agent who was part of Peter's team? It's like she was there for a while, but then she just disappeared and was replaced by Naomi from Lost.

No they didn't and last night when Naomi was on the catwalk I couldn't help thinking that Natalie Morales would have looked much better. They wasted her when she was on White Collar.

I guess there's only two of us watching this season!

I'm still enjoying this immensely and this week was no exception. The show can still throw in some clever tricks and neat ideas and I really liked the ring on the statue and the jailbreak over the phone with the ring pull.

Mozzie seems to be getting more time this season too. Even Jones got some action this week.

Make it three, I think this has been an excellent season so far, maybe best ever in fact.

I watched the breakout episode last night, and I liked the cat and mouse between Neal and Keller. The show is smart enough to reuse some of their more dynamic guest stars which is a credit to the creative staff.

Season 3 has been more action packed, and much better.

I'm still on board with White Collar, too, guys. I have been enjoying it immensely since it returned from hiatus. I think there is wonderful chemistry between Neal and Peter and I enjoy Peter's wife, Elizabeth, and Neal's friend, Mozzie, too. The only down note to the show to me is the distracting tattoo on the shoulder of Marsha Thomason, who plays Special Agent Diana Barrigan, but that's just me. She is adequate otherwise, I think.

iir the show is only in the second season.

The only down note to the show to me is the distracting tattoo on the shoulder of Marsha Thomason, who plays Special Agent Diana Barrigan, but that's just me.

No, I don't think it is. :)

Every time I see that tattoo it starts me questioning the dress code at the FBI. I thought all tattoos had to be discreet and not visible.

Why do actors even get very visible tats in the first place? Wouldn't it limit their opportunities for certain roles? Acting gigs are very scarce to get in the first place. I guess it wouldn't matter in their restaurant jobs though!

Why do actors even get very visible tats in the first place? Wouldn't it limit their opportunities for certain roles? Acting gigs are very scarce to get in the first place. I guess it wouldn't matter in their restaurant jobs though!

Have you seen Megan Fox? Here ridiculous assortment of tattoo's doesn't stop her getting roles even when the makeup artists have to spend hours covering them up. Which makes it even more ridiculous to hire her in the first place, because she really is just a pretty face.

At least someone like Danny Trejo didn't have aspirations to be an actor, so his tattoos are the results of his life and they fit in with the roles he plays.

There's no reason why they couldn't make Naomi from Lost wear a long sleeve shirt on White Collar when she's not undercover. Just to conform to the FBI dress code.

She's had that tat since her Las Vegas days, you can see it there. Personally I hate them and think it's stupid for an actor to do that to themselves. I remember Allissia Milano and Holly Marie Combs on Charmed where all tatted up as is Alex O'Loughlin of Hawaii 50, he didn't used to be.

Well, that was kind of meh.

For a finale I thought it was the weakest episode of the .5 batch. It didn't really peak well and the submarine should have been the high point but they didn't spend much time with it and it kind of appeared out of nowhere. The ep felt like a rushed National Collar: Submarine of Secrets.

They killed Andrew McCarthy who was one of the better adversaries and the ending was both silly and predictable.

Are we supposed to assume that Alex swapped out all the art in the warehouse and at Neal's place or is it some other shadowy figure to be revealed?

At least this episode finally ended the Kate arc and also the music box arc.

Season three starts in the Fall.

Well, that was kind of meh.

For a finale I thought it was the weakest episode of the .5 batch. It didn't really peak well and the submarine should have been the high point but they didn't spend much time with it and it kind of appeared out of nowhere. The ep felt like a rushed National Collar: Submarine of Secrets.

They killed Andrew McCarthy who was one of the better adversaries and the ending was both silly and predictable.

Are we supposed to assume that Alex swapped out all the art in the warehouse and at Neal's place or is it some other shadowy figure to be revealed?

At least this episode finally ended the Kate arc and also the music box arc.

Season three starts in the Fall.

Agree completely, as soon as they popped off that plate and hopped in the sub........ that was it, seriously. :confused: Then i waited for something major to happen or at least a good cliffhanger but alas to no avail.

Having said that however i do throughly enjoy the show and will definitely keep the season pass on my TiVo :cool: <- Neil

I figured it was Moz who switched things out. The smile at the end was worth the Meh part.

I really dug the ending of the show. The smile on Neal's face was priceless. The pitch at the end for the start of the next season made the episode worthwhile for me.

A very good opening to the new "season" this last Tuesday. I didn't suspect who had stolen the art, so that was a little bit of a surprise. If the show is going to continue, Caffery is going to have to sit on that art for a long time. He really hasn't turned honest, it's merely expedient for him to act honest for the time being.

Agreed. But I'm sure it was significant that Peter now has the manifest from the U-boat and said that as soon as someone tries to fence anything, they've got him, meanwhile Mozzie says they'll need to sell something to finance the next escape attempt.

Personally, I thought that was a bit weak, as it's been established that Neal has other resources, and a huge stash of other stuff he could sell if it really came to that.

Personally, I thought that was a bit weak, as it's been established that Neal has other resources, and a huge stash of other stuff he could sell if it really came to that.

I think last season it was mentioned that he had already run through all of that. It was in that one episode where peter is kidnapped and he had to use the ring that was on the statue.

I think last season it was mentioned that he had already run through all of that. It was in that one episode where peter is kidnapped and he had to use the ring that was on the statue.

Yeah - why do I have the feeling that it is going to play out essentially the same with the art?

I think last season it was mentioned that he had already run through all of that. It was in that one episode where peter is kidnapped and he had to use the ring that was on the statue.

Oops, I think you're right. I'd forgotten that.

Was this the third season for it?

What a strange point in the series to change the title sequence.

I like the visuals but the music sucks. Totally forgettable and without any impact. I really liked the short but strong guitar riff that it used to open with.

What a strange point in the series to change the title sequence.

I like the visuals but the music sucks. Totally forgettable and without any impact. I really liked the short but strong guitar riff that it used to open with.

No kidding. That shocked me when they changed the title sequence. BTW, anyone know if the previous guitar riff music comes from something in particular (i.e., that I can find on iTunes or Amazon) or was just music created for the show title?

new opening song is not good.

No kidding. That shocked me when they changed the title sequence. BTW, anyone know if the previous guitar riff music comes from something in particular (i.e., that I can find on iTunes or Amazon) or was just music created for the show title?

On the USA forums one of the members has been replacing the audio with the existing music and the results are a lot better.

http://www.vollinnepumpe.de/jumper/Opener3.html

http://www.vollinnepumpe.de/jumper/Opener.html

I think the second works pretty well with the new titles. Apparently Jeff Eastin didn't make the change but he's acknowledged he's heard the generally disapproving feedback to the new music so hopefully it won't be around long.

I really enjoyed this week's episode apart from that. I'm a sucker for a treasure hunt and it was fun to watch Tim DeKay act like a kid and for the Mozzie and Mrs Suit to get involved.

The book disintegrating was a surprise too. Even if in the end it didn't turn out to be Neal making a massive screw-up.

Watched last night's White Collar episode and enjoyed it. Jayne Atkinson was terrific as Helen, a driven investigative reporter and the meanest boss since Meryl Streep's Miranda Priestly in The Devil Wears Prada. I laughed out loud at the way Diana's fellow FBI agents, with the help of Elizabeth Burke, setup a fancy kid't birthday party at the last minute to allow Diana to fulfill her undercover role as Helen's abused assistant. I am also enjoying Neil's continuing relationship with the gorgeous insurance investigator, Sara.

Always good to see Jayne Atkinson from 24, remember she married Bill...Anyone else notice Tim Dekay chewing up each scene he is in, it looks to me like Matt is noticing. He needs to turn it down a notch, this has just started with this new batch of episodes. "Sara" looks great. What happened to the other woman in Neil's life at the last season ender??? It was tough to pick who was hotter, her or Sara. How about Diana's Doctor girl-friend...WOW!!! Pretty good summer show....

It is nice they through in the Manchester accent as the actress was born there. I thought the episode was good, and I loved the mad scramble to get the birthday party done.

Have to give kudos to USA. They heard the feedback about the new titles, took an audience poll and the original guitar is coming back. Even Jeff Eastin voted for the old theme.

jeffeastin (http://mobile.twitter.com/jeffeastin) The old main title won. You will see it in next week's #WhiteCollar (http://mobile.twitter.com/searches?q=%23WhiteCollar). The following week you'll see @SharifAtkins (http://mobile.twitter.com/SharifAtkins) and Hilarie added to it.

I always thought it was odd that Sharif Atkins has never been included. He's been there since episode one and in the past few episodes he's been quite rightly getting more scenes.

"Send over the handsome one."

Old theme music is back. Show gets some slick new visual tricks. Cinematography was first class. Lena Headey gets added to the show, but sadly not as a regular.

Lots of good in this episode which was astonishingly undermined by the sheer stupidity of plugging a hacker's USB stick into the network of the FBI.

I really dislike any storylines involving hacking or computers. Not only are they usually pretty boring to watch (yay computer screens!) but almost every single example just demonstrates how the writers have no real idea about the world they are trying to show.

Mozzie: She;s here now.
Everyone: Yeah, we get that!

Bagging Lena Headey - well done Mozzie!

"Send over the handsome one."

Old theme music is back. Show gets some slick new visual tricks. Cinematography was first class. Lena Headey gets added to the show, but sadly not as a regular.

Lots of good in this episode which was astonishingly undermined by the sheer stupidity of plugging a hacker's USB stick into the network of the FBI.

I really dislike any storylines involving hacking or computers. Not only are they usually pretty boring to watch (yay computer screens!) but almost every single example just demonstrates how the writers have no real idea about the world they are trying to show.

They said the USB stick had been scanned....

All in all, I really enjoy this show.

They said the USB stick had been scanned....

I know and that was just another example of silly writing. They were dealing with one of the most proficient hackers in America, how can they scan for handwritten code? It's not as if it was in the virus definitions for that month. Then they didn't even run the file to check before passing it on!

Anyone with even the vaguest clue about computer protection would have plugged it in to a laptop that was isolated from the main network.

What makes this even more stupid is that the Cybercrimes division of the FBI warns people on it's Web site:Carelessly downloading e-mail attachments can circumvent even the most vigilant anti-virus software. Never open an e-mail attachment from someone you don't know, and be wary of forwarded attachments from people you do know. They may have unwittingly advanced malicious code.

:rolleyes:

I know and that was just another example of silly writing. They were dealing with one of the most proficient hackers in America, how can they scan for handwritten code? It's not as if it was in the virus definitions for that month. Then they didn't even run the file to check before passing it on!

Anyone with even the vaguest clue about computer protection would have plugged it in to a laptop that was isolated from the main network.

What makes this even more stupid is that the Cybercrimes division of the FBI warns people on it's Web site:Carelessly downloading e-mail attachments can circumvent even the most vigilant anti-virus software. Never open an e-mail attachment from someone you don't know, and be wary of forwarded attachments from people you do know. They may have unwittingly advanced malicious code.

:rolleyes:

Exactly. Pull the wireless radios from the laptop, don't plug it in - its nice and isolated from the rest of the network, nothing bad can happen.

So I'm trying to figure out how Neil is going to get out of this situation. It's obvious Mozzie isn't going to. He has no desire to live a more normal life. Are we ultimately going to see a Neil vs. Mozzie con throw down?

Slowly but surely Neil is coming to the light side. Darth Mozzie looks like he isn't ever going to give up that life.

Probably my favorite finale of the show. Lots of things happening from the slick AT-4 caper, Neal pulling off some fancy moves along the way with his ever-cool hat, ridiculously fun (but very fake) base jumping, Beau Bridges, Neal playing Peter and Peter trying to catch out Neal, beautiful opening cinematography and plenty of moments that had all the partnerships up in the air.

Mostly though I enjoyed this finale because the arc was simple! After the stupidly oblique and nonsensical arcs that have run through the past seasons (Peter's ring, the music box secret code, the fractal antenna ...) this year was easy to follow with an outcome that actually meant something. Neal has treasure. Peter wants treasure. Mozzie wants to leave. Simple.

And great cliffhanger too. Once again shaking up the bromance for next season and putting Mozzie's return in actual doubt.

And great cliffhanger too. Once again shaking up the bromance for next season and putting Mozzie's return in actual doubt.

Nah ... Mozzie has a thing for "Mrs. Suit." The kidnapping will turn him back to the light side.

Mrs. Suit is hot.

Probably my favorite finale of the show. Lots of things happening from the slick AT-4 caper, Neal pulling off some fancy moves along the way with his ever-cool hat, ridiculously fun (but very fake) base jumping, Beau Bridges, Neal playing Peter and Peter trying to catch out Neal, beautiful opening cinematography and plenty of moments that had all the partnerships up in the air.

Mostly though I enjoyed this finale because the arc was simple! After the stupidly oblique and nonsensical arcs that have run through the past seasons (Peter's ring, the music box secret code, the fractal antenna ...) this year was easy to follow with an outcome that actually meant something. Neal has treasure. Peter wants treasure. Mozzie wants to leave. Simple.

And great cliffhanger too. Once again shaking up the bromance for next season and putting Mozzie's return in actual doubt.
I agree that the White Collar season finale was great television. I watched it with my college student grandson and we both loved it. Neil's insouciant parachute jump from the penthouse to the street was high camp at its best. The boy is cool!

I was glad to see the little woman again who Neil had conned into thinking he was an Interpol agent in an earlier episode. She is very appealing, as is just about everybody else on the show for that matter. Come to think of it, though, the ruthless and homicidal Keller isn't very appealing at all.:)

It was fun to see Beau Bridges show up as an FBI agent and art theft expert who is Peter's old mentor. I have always admired Bridges' work and wondered why he didn't end up being a bigger star.

OFF TOPIC NOTE: What happened to the AVS server yesterday? I wasn't able to reach it between about 10:30 AM and 10:00 PM. Only this morning was I able to connect again.

I was glad to see the little woman again who Neil had conned into thinking he was an Interpol agent in an earlier episode. She is very appealing, as is just about everybody else on the show for that matter.

She's grown up since I last saw her.

http://www.dvdlink.ca/images/Movies%20Covers/6519/31/1219791042_1220108256.jpg

Power outage at the server HQ damaged the AVS hardware yesterday. That's why the site was down.

She's grown up since I last saw her.

Power outage at the server HQ damaged the AVS hardware yesterday. That's why the site was down.
Anna Chlumsky, of course! I should have remembered.

Tell me about power outages. I was without power at my house for three hours Tuesday night. Having to get ready for bed with the aid of a flashlight gave me a new appreciation for electricity.

While not on display a lot in the season finale having a great villain really helps to bring up the level of the whole show. Keller is such a wonderful foil for both Peter and Neal. So many shows just throw away interesting characters after using them one time. Credit goes to whoever decided to bring back this character for the show.

Nice to have a con man who's not afraid to kill or get in the way of the FBI.

Tell me about power outages. I was without power at my house for three hours Tuesday night. .

[Chuckles] ... Three whole hours? The horror .... the horror. :eek:

[Chuckles] ... Three whole hours? The horror .... the horror. :eek:
What can I say? I do now and always have suffered from OCD.:)

What can I say? I do now and always have suffered from OCD.:)

OCD or not, three hours without A/C in this region in August? I'd be in my car with the motor running and A/C on high. My house goes from comfortable to sauna in 1 hour in this weather, despite insulated windows, and all the fancy energy-efficient stuff put in 4 years ago when built.

OCD or not, three hours without A/C in this region in August? I'd be in my car with the motor running and A/C on high. My house goes from comfortable to sauna in 1 hour in this weather, despite insulated windows, and all the fancy energy-efficient stuff put in 4 years ago when built.

Sounds just like South Florida!

OCD or not, three hours without A/C in this region in August? I'd be in my car with the motor running and A/C on high. My house goes from comfortable to sauna in 1 hour in this weather, despite insulated windows, and all the fancy energy-efficient stuff put in 4 years ago when built.
Oklahoma City had been breaking heat records for several days, between 105 and 110 every day, when the thunderstorm took out my power. Fortunately, the storm brought a cool front with it so the temperature had fallen into the high 70s by the time I lost power. Today it's almost like spring here, only 97 degrees.:)

TV Notes
USA Network’s ‘White Collar’ Renewed For Season 4 With 16-Episode Order
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - August 25th, 2011

No surprise here — USA’s buddy caper White Collar has been renewed for a fourth season with a 16-episode order. Also pending at the network are the pickups of sophomore Covert Affairs and freshman Necessary Roughness.

This is the third series to be renewed this summer by USA, which is logging another dominating ratings performance with its originals, following the recent second-season pickup of newbie Suits and a final-season renewal for In Plain Sight.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/usas-white-collar-renewed-with-16-episode-order/

It just keeps getting better.

I really enjoyed Tim DeKay's performance for the return episode. He really sold his anger and frustration. Also liked the pigeon scene. The show should drop in more quick and interesting history lessons.

With a bit of tweaking this episode could have been a finale with Neal becoming a free man. I'll be glad to see the end of the anklet though. As much as I like the NY setting and cinematography it does limit where and what the show can do with Neal's escapades.