View Full Version : Comcast Burlington, MA DTA mapping?


cantstopdasignal
09-26-09, 01:06 AM
Does anyone have a map of clear-QAM channels to standard channel numbers for Comcast Burlington?

We are being forced to "upgrade" to the DTAs, and it is going to wreck havoc on my Windows Media Center setup :mad:.

bicker1
09-26-09, 08:30 AM
I haven't done a mapping for about a year. It wasn't worth it to me to keep up with the adjustments. Besides, with the FCC granting Motorola, Cisco, Thompson and Pace's petition to allow use of privacy mode on the DTAs made by those companies, it isn't likely for clear-QAM to be of much use going forward. I already can get all of the local broadcast channels via antenna, here in Burlington.

You might want to start looking into some of the new tuner cards coming out, that include CableCARD slots. That's probably going to be your best bet.

wajo
09-26-09, 12:37 PM
Does anyone have a map of clear-QAM channels to standard channel numbers for Comcast Burlington?

We are being forced to "upgrade" to the DTAs, and it is going to wreck havoc on my Windows Media Center setup :mad:.
With a Comcast DTA, here's a procedure for "self-mapping" the channels you'll receive. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12298432&postcount=12#Scan8)

cantstopdasignal
09-26-09, 12:38 PM
You might want to start looking into some of the new tuner cards coming out, that include CableCARD slots. That's probably going to be your best bet.


I already did, actually.

Not only would I have to buy the card/tuner (using the ATI tuner as a base that's $250 you're looking at) I'd also have to pay $6.95/month (plus a possible "digital outlet charge" for the CableCARD, since it's not my "primary" box. At that rate it might be cheaper to get their DVR, which is far inferior to what I have.

To me, it's outrageous that I have to pay that much to get the level of functionality that I have right now, so I really don't want to go down that road.

cantstopdasignal
09-26-09, 12:42 PM
here's a procedure for "self-mapping" the channels you'll receive.

thanks!

bicker1
09-26-09, 12:51 PM
In actuality, if this is not your primary outlet, it'll be only $1.95 per month more for the CableCARD, in addition to the "digital outlet charge" which is $5, according to the brochures we were mailed last weekend. If their DVR is far inferior to what you have now, then the extra fees probably are worth it. I've had their DVR, and now have a TiVo S3, and it would definitely be worth it to me to pay that much more to use my TiVo instead of their DVR. I'm considering getting a new TiVo HD, so that I can have a digital DVR on two outlets, and the prospect of paying an extra $6.95 for Comcast to extend my digital service to this second outlet is a very minor consideration, in contrast to what I'm paying for digital service on the first outlet, and in contrast to what I'd be paying for the new TiVo, itself, and for service from TiVo for the new TiVo.

Times change, and technology progresses. A lot of folks recently had to spend $5-$25 (and we taxpayers put in an extra $40 each) so that those folks could continue to get "free" television via an antenna. It's not unusual to incur costs associated with the passage of time, and the consequent superseding of what you have. When evaluating whether something a supplier does is outrageous or not, I compare it to what the competitors are offering. Here we have five competitors offering us service, and Comcast is actually the last one to still offer unencrypted cable networks. As such, that makes Comcast's action pretty unremarkable, except with regard to how late it is occurring, how much time they've let pass by with things the way they've been.

bicker1
09-26-09, 12:53 PM
With a Comcast DTA, here's a procedure for "self-mapping" the channels you'll receive. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12298432&postcount=12#Scan8)One note about this: The FCC recently granted Motorola, Cisco, Thompsons and Pace a waiver of regulations that precluded their customers enabling privacy mode (a weak form of encryption) on the DTAs they provide. As such, we can expect that within a short period of time, all cable companies that use DTAs from any of these four manufacturers may engage some type of encryption for all digital cable networks.

olyteddy
09-26-09, 10:02 PM
I'm surprised it ain't a 'Sticky'...http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels

cantstopdasignal
09-27-09, 02:20 AM
In actuality, if this is not your primary outlet, it'll be only $1.95 per month more for the CableCARD, in addition to the "digital outlet charge" which is $5, according to the brochures we were mailed last weekend. If their DVR is far inferior to what you have now, then the extra fees probably are worth it. I've had their DVR, and now have a TiVo S3, and it would definitely be worth it to me to pay that much more to use my TiVo instead of their DVR. I'm considering getting a new TiVo HD, so that I can have a digital DVR on two outlets, and the prospect of paying an extra $6.95 for Comcast to extend my digital service to this second outlet is a very minor consideration, in contrast to what I'm paying for digital service on the first outlet, and in contrast to what I'd be paying for the new TiVo, itself, and for service from TiVo for the new TiVo.

Times change, and technology progresses. A lot of folks recently had to spend $5-$25 (and we taxpayers put in an extra $40 each) so that those folks could continue to get "free" television via an antenna. It's not unusual to incur costs associated with the passage of time, and the consequent superseding of what you have. When evaluating whether something a supplier does is outrageous or not, I compare it to what the competitors are offering. Here we have five competitors offering us service, and Comcast is actually the last one to still offer unencrypted cable networks. As such, that makes Comcast's action pretty unremarkable, except with regard to how late it is occurring, how much time they've let pass by with things the way they've been.

It's one thing to pay $6.95 extra a month (which is still a little ridiculous, since I see no reason to have to pay $5 to call an outlet "digital") for the CableCARD, it's another to have to pay $250 on top of that $6.95/month. You maybe getting a brand-spanking new TiVO when you get your new setup, but I am not: in the end, I only have one DVR, albeit one that can run circles around the Comcast DVR, but still just one.

I understand the argument with the FCC mandated conversion, but for those who knew where to shop, the cost was truly $0, not even $5 - $25. And even if it were $25, it is a one-time cost. Here, it is a one time cost (cost of CableCARD capable equipment + installation/visit/change fee(s)) AND a monthly cost. Besides, improving technology should not necessarily mean increasing cost: for example, we pay around the same rate to get high speed that we used to pay for dial-up. Just because Comcast and its brethren are given legal monopolies doesn't mean they should be able to do whatever they want.

bicker1
09-27-09, 06:54 AM
You're correct that they're not able to do whatever they want. They were, however, allowed to make these changes. They complied completely with the laws, and more importantly, these changes just make it so that they are consistent with all of the competitors. Again, Comcast was the last of the suppliers in our town to make their service work this way. They gave you what you wanted longer than all the rest. None of the others are willing to do what you want, and haven't been willing to do so for a while. This is the way the industry is trending.

It's a bit like paying to check baggage on airlines. It used to be "free". Now most airlines make us pay. And there, we're really not getting anything different from the airlines for the price. It's just a reflection of what companies have to do, today, to best fulfill their overriding responsibilities.

bygwen
09-28-09, 12:08 AM
I appologize if I asked this already but, is there any way to block channels from the channel +/- button memory on th Comcast DTA so I can go directly to the channels I want? Thanks.