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marcolisi 09-28-09, 10:16 AM Hello guys.
I am confused.
Is the Canon HF10, 24 Mbit/s or 17 Mbit/s ? because I read :
Canon HF10 = 17 Mbit/s
Canon HF11 = 24 Mbit/s
also
Are the Canon HF10 US and UE versions different in the encodings ?
I read that the :
US:
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/60i
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/24p
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/60i
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/24p
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/30p
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/30p
UE:
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/50i
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/25p
Is it true ?
thank you
canonhd 09-28-09, 03:42 PM Hello guys.
I am confused.
Is the Canon HF10, 24 Mbit/s or 17 Mbit/s ? because I read :
Canon HF10 = 17 Mbit/s
Canon HF11 = 24 Mbit/s
also
Are the Canon HF10 US and UE versions different in the encodings ?
I read that the :
US:
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/60i
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/24p
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/60i
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/24p
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/30p
AVCHD 1440 x 1080/30p
UE:
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/50i
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/25p
Is it true ?
thank you
The HF-10 is 17Mbps. The HF-10 only goes to FXP Mode. The HF-11 added the MXP mode of 24Mbps.
For the different regions the encoding would differ also.
marcolisi 09-29-09, 08:13 AM The HF-10 is 17Mbps. The HF-10 only goes to FXP Mode. The HF-11 added the MXP mode of 24Mbps.
For the different regions the encoding would differ also.
Thank you for the reply.
What is the difference betwen MXP and FXP. What this terms mean ?
also
the UE version lacks 30p. What is the difference between 30p and 25p and also its missing 60p....why is like that ?
thanks
seggers 09-29-09, 08:36 AM I assume that MXP and FXP do mean something, but as stated, FXP is 17Mbps and MXP is 24....
None of the current Canons, and maybe none of anyone's, do 60p. They just don't have the processing power to cope with it. And most broadcast quality is 1080i, after all.
30i/p is a US thing, 25/50 is a UK, Europe thing. It's to do with the frame rate.
Seggers
marcolisi 09-29-09, 08:49 AM I assume that MXP and FXP do mean something, but as stated, FXP is 17Mbps and MXP is 24....
None of the current Canons, and maybe none of anyone's, do 60p. They just don't have the processing power to cope with it. And most broadcast quality is 1080i, after all.
30i/p is a US thing, 25/50 is a UK, Europe thing. It's to do with the frame rate.
Seggers
Hi, sorry to be so dumb.
Pratically :
the UE AVCHD 1920 x 1080/50i is the same as the US AVCHD 1920 x 1080/60i
?
the UE AVCHD 1920 x 1080/25p is the same as the US AVCHD 1920 x 1080/30p ?
In few words, am I going to lose encodings like 24p, 30p, 60i if I buy the UE version ?
or
just the name of the encoding changes buy at the end is the same ?
thank you
seggers 09-29-09, 02:16 PM Hi, sorry to be so dumb.
Pratically :
the UE AVCHD 1920 x 1080/50i is the same as the US AVCHD 1920 x 1080/60i
?
the UE AVCHD 1920 x 1080/25p is the same as the US AVCHD 1920 x 1080/30p ?
In few words, am I going to lose encodings like 24p, 30p, 60i if I buy the UE version ?
or
just the name of the encoding changes buy at the end is the same ?
thank you
No (there's 10 frames a sec difference), no (5) and quite possibly. If those things are important to you, then get the US version.
However, if you're going to be showing stuff on UK spec TVs and the like, then get the UE version.
It would also be quite handy to know roughly where you live.
Seggers
marcolisi 09-30-09, 06:59 AM No (there's 10 frames a sec difference), no (5) and quite possibly. If those things are important to you, then get the US version.
However, if you're going to be showing stuff on UK spec TVs and the like, then get the UE version.
It would also be quite handy to know roughly where you live.
Seggers
I live both in USA and ITA, but I would watch maybe the movies mostly on the pc, not on the tv.
Will the 10 frames a sec difference be very noticeable for :
low light videos
and
sport videos
?
Do u suggest the US version if it is better ?
Do u think is better
thank you
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