Now that national parks is on, i've finally had it with dish not providing pbs stations in its local hd package.

doesn't most every other provider offer pbs hd in their local station package?

dish regularly adds crap channels. love the fishing channel in hd!, but not
pbs which actually offers quality programming.

I WANT MY PBS IN HD NOW!!!

anyone else fed up with this?

Now that national parks is on, i've finally had it with dish not providing pbs stations in its local hd package.

doesn't most every other provider offer pbs hd in their local station package.
All hard wire providers (Cable, U-verse, FiOS) do, and so does DirecTV. Which leaves Dish.....

All hard wire providers (Cable, U-verse, FiOS) do, and so does DirecTV. Which leaves Dish.....

thank you for precisely making my point!

Try using an antenna to pick it up OTA.

well it is really dicey whether i can pick it up. you don't know bay area geography but it is very hilly. the transmitter is about 50 miles away with some hills between it and my house. i went to that antannae web site and they showed my home to be maybe on the border, perhaps just outside of the reception range.

so i suppose i could spend $80 and buy an antannae and buy some coax and run it up to the attic, through 2 walls and then crawl around under the house to feed the coax to my two hd sets, and spend half a day saturday checking whether i can pick it up or not, and if it don't work than i have to spend time taking the antannae back, but i'd rather watch the cal-usc game so i guess i'm too lazy to go through all that.

it sure would be a hell of a lot easier if e* simply provided pbs hd on their local package like....

EVERY OTHER SATCO/CABLE/FIOS PROVIDER DOES!!!!!!!

I can't speak to other markets, but here PBS is demanding additional carriage fees for it's HD feed. CBS does the same. Dish has thus far refused to pay extra for either. So I don't think the blame can all be laid at Dish's feet.

Why not place the blame at Dish's feet? Just about every other provider seems to have been able to make a deal with PBS.

Well here in LA Dish keeps adding new locals in HD. They have added KTLA 5 and KCAL 9. They need to add PBS and KCOP 13 yet.

Rick R

well, hell. even comcast was finally able to cut a deal with the nfl network which has pretty high carriage fees.

dish has carried the nfl network from day 1.

shouldn't be too tough for them to make a deal with pbs since
every other provider has already done so.

and they wonder why they're losing market share to direct...........

Ah... I've missed weeks of ignorant Dish bashing...

I'm glad to hear that DirecTV has my PBS in HD... except where is it ??

Available Channels
Network Affiliate Local Channel # 3-Digit Channel #
(older receivers) HD Channel
ABC KEYT 3 3
NBC KSBY 6 6
CBS KCOY 12 12
FOX KKFX 24 24
TMO KTAS 33
UNI KPMR 38
PBS PBS 379

The only difference between Dish Network and DirecTV here is that Dish Network adds the National CW and the National PBS while DirecTV only has the National PBS.

Only ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX in HD on both providers...

So, as usual, it depends on your location.

Both DirecTV and Dish Network must have all local HD channels in all markets that they carry by 2013. Between now and then, each provider will add channels according to what their Marketing Department tells them (cue Dilbert).

So, right now, in my area, if you want CW, you have to get Dish Network, and in your area, if you want PBS-HD, you have to get DirecTV.

Dish carries more local markets in HD, so they can do that by having only 4 or 5 HD local channels in each market... for now...

PS Dish's new satellite, Nimiq 5, comes online in a couple of weeks with new capacity...

News:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/357085-Dish_APTS_Working_On_Noncom_HD_Signals_Deal.php?rssid=20059

Dish, APTS Working On Noncom HD Signals Deal
Parties Told Senate Subcommittee They Had Hoped To Already An Agreement
John Eggerton -- Multichannel News, 10/7/2009 11:54:26 AM

From Multichannel News

Dish: We Can't Deliver Noncom HD Channels By 2011

DBS Provider Can't Comply Without Additional Satellite Capacity

John Eggerton -- Multichannel News, 10/15/2009

In a letter to the House Energy & Commerce Committee Wednesday, Dish Network executive vice president and general counsel R. Stanton Dodge said the company would not be able to comply with a proposal that it deliver all noncommercial stations' HD signals by 2011 in markets where it delivers any local station HD signals.

Dodge said that not only did that raise First Amendment concerns, but that it could not comply with the rollout schedule --50% by 2010, the rest by 2011-- without the additional capacity, which it won't have until it launches a new satellite in the fourth quarter of 2012.

That $350 million satellite is being launched to meet the current FCC timetable for delivering all HD signals in any market where it carries any by February 2013. The FCC's is actually a phased transition over four years: carriage in 15% of markets by 2010, 30% by 2011, 60% by 2012 and 100% by 2013.

Dish and the Association of Public Television Stations have been negotiating for three years without success. APTS already has a deal with DirecTV.

Dish pointed out that it already delivers the standard-definition feeds of PBS stations in 181 markets, more than any single multichannel video provider, and will be doing so in all 210 markets if Congress lets it back into the distant-signal business.