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yorknh
10-02-09, 02:04 PM
No actually I'm not asking how to get into the service menu :)

I have a Hitachi 53UWX10b that I am finally going to calibrate (as best I can). I have the service manual and have gotten into the service menus before, so I'm comfortable with that.

My question comes from considering the purchase of an Onkyo TX-NR1007 receiver that has an ISF mode that allows adjustment of brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gamma, red brightness, red contrast, green br, green cont, blue br, and blue cont. My question is (assuming I buy the 1007) should I just leave the TV alone and make the adjustments via the receiver?

I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the color bright/contrast settings in the receiver would be the same as color cuts/drv in the TV.

wrinklefree
10-02-09, 02:44 PM
No actually I'm not asking how to get into the service menu :)

I have a Hitachi 53UWX10b that I am finally going to calibrate (as best I can). I have the service manual and have gotten into the service menus before, so I'm comfortable with that.

My question comes from considering the purchase of an Onkyo TX-NR1007 receiver that has an ISF mode that allows adjustment of brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gamma, red brightness, red contrast, green br, green cont, blue br, and blue cont. My question is (assuming I buy the 1007) should I just leave the TV alone and make the adjustments via the receiver?

I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the color bright/contrast settings in the receiver would be the same as color cuts/drv in the TV.

Make the adjustments in the TV and fine tune your < 1080p sources using the Onkyo assuming you can get test patterns up.

Remember if the signal coming through is 1080p (BD) the Onkyo doesn't apply the ISF controls and passes them along untouched, or uncorrected if you used it as the calibration point.

lcaillo
10-03-09, 04:09 AM
No actually I'm not asking how to get into the service menu :)

I have a Hitachi 53UWX10b that I am finally going to calibrate (as best I can). I have the service manual and have gotten into the service menus before, so I'm comfortable with that.

My question comes from considering the purchase of an Onkyo TX-NR1007 receiver that has an ISF mode that allows adjustment of brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gamma, red brightness, red contrast, green br, green cont, blue br, and blue cont. My question is (assuming I buy the 1007) should I just leave the TV alone and make the adjustments via the receiver?

I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the color bright/contrast settings in the receiver would be the same as color cuts/drv in the TV.

Calibrate the display to be neutral first, then you can see if any deficiency can be corrected in the processor.

yorknh
10-05-09, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the replies. I (mostly) successfully calibrated the TV this weekend. I say mostly because there is too much green at low IRE, but my wife wanted me to stop messing with the TV so I'll have to address that a bit later.

The TX-NR1007 is no longer in question, I bought this weekend. I just have to wait for it to be shipped. It does raise another question though, about gamma. My TV is a rear projection that predates HDMI, so I'm going to have to purchase an HDFury or HDFury2. If I can use the gamma adjust on the receiver, I'll get the HDFury2, if I can't then I'll get the HDFury with the Box1020. Does anyone know if there is a reason I won't be able to use the gamma adjust on the receiver?

Rolls-Royce
10-09-09, 12:49 PM
Depends on the differences in the gamma controls. I don't know how the Onkyo's control works, but I own a Box 1020, and its control is a "black boost" for improving shadow detail. It also seems to bump contrast up slightly in the higher end as well.

This is a bit off-topic, but there are other reasons you may want to go with an HDFury 2 instead of the original HDFury. Some CRT RPTVs don't like the input timings from the original Fury and other older-generation units, leading to image shift. Ours is one of those, which is why (along with the gamma boost) I bought a Box1020. The Fury 2 has this built in. The Fury also has a DVI input, while the Fury 2 has HDMI. Some sources such as HD DVD players output PC levels when they see a DVI connection, complicating attempts to calibrate the set for different sources coming through the Fury.